with us, it will be interesting, thousands of wounded, more than ten killed in explosions of pagers and other devices in lebanon. from syria, most of the victims are members of the hezbollah group, they blame the explosions on israel, tel aviv, it does not comment, so what is known as of now, and how did it happen that thousands of pagers exploded at the same time? this is what jafer umerov will be talking about in the next 15 minutes of the bbc broadcast in the studio in london. where did it all start? pagers started going off in lebanon and syria on tuesday afternoon. witnesses saw how from... pockets

smoke billowed from the victims, and then an explosion rang out. according to medics, most of the victims received injuries to their hands or faces, because before the explosion, the victims received messages on their gadgets, so in most cases they took pagers with them. as a result of the explosions, almost 3,000 people were injured, more than 10 people died, including two children. these are data from the ministry of health of lebanon. but whose pagers were they? they were used by members of the based. the hezbollah group is the largest armed military group in the world that iran created in lebanon in the 80s and still finances. however, why they used pagers and not phones a little later, but the explosions have been confirmed not only in lebanon, but also in neighboring syria, in damascus, and most of the victims are still in lebanon. one of the injured is iran's ambassador to lebanon, moshtab amani, and tehran and beirut blame israel for the explosions. however, the government.

of the country currently does not comment on these explosions, already today in lebanon, other communication devices, portable radio stations have exploded en masse. according to the ministry of defense health of lebanon more than 300 people were injured due to the explosion of radios. nine people died. one of the explosions happened during the funeral of those who died the day before in the pager explosions. however, how the events unfolded, further in the plot. it was an audacious without... an unprecedented attack across lebanon. thousands of pagers went off simultaneously. many were on the street, some, like these people, at home. some are in supermarkets. emergency services struggled to cope with the scale of the attack. thousands of hezbollah members were injured at the same time. israel does not comment on the situation, but few do sad in his involvement, so how did israel

manage to hit hezbollah in this way? hezbollah began using pagers and older technology after it became clear that its members' cell phones were being tracked. it is likely that israel knew that hezbollah had ordered thousands of new pagers and intercepted the shipment. it can be assumed that this was something other than simply overloading or overheating the lithium batteries. presumably they planted a small amount of explosives in each of these pagers, so this was clearly a planned attack. from since the beginning of the gaza war , there have been constant skirmishes on the lebanese-israeli border. this attack will increase tensions in an already volatile region. one scenario is that this is just the beginning of destroying hezbollah's communications network, the start of a much larger military operation in lebanon. if hezbollah members cannot... communicate with each other,

the israelis will have a better chance of winning or expanding their operations in lebanon. funerals are already taking place in lebanon, and with them threats from payment. we hold the israeli enemy responsible for all the victims, for all the martyrs, for all the wounded, and we believe that there will be retribution. the world is worried about what might happen next. sbl groups. recognized as a terrorist organization by the authorities of great britain, the united states and other countries, switched to a pager earlier this year. they chose not to use cell phones because they are easier to hack and track, while pagers are harder to do. most of them can only accept information read more about who still uses pagers and how they work on our website bbc.ua, in the article, who still uses pagers and why. until

yesterday, pagers were a forgotten technology. this article details how they are arranged and the principles of their work. the attack was aimed at members of hezbul. however , the lebanese authorities say that civilians are among the victims. his correspondent bachega from beirut is more. behind me is the beirut hospital, where were the wounded brought? relatives gathered all morning under the walls of the hospital victims, they were waiting for information from doctors. this morning, the ministry of health of lebanon released data that helps to understand the full scale of the attack. twelve people died, including eight. a one-year-old girl, an 11-year-old boy and four medical staff who had pagers with them. nearly 3,000 people were injured, and more than 400 eye, face and hand operations were performed, as well as limb amputations, because these pagers went off

after people received messages they believed were sent by hezbollah. here in lebanon people are shocked and outraged because the pagers went off when people...were in stores or at home with their families. for almost a year, the country has been living in anticipation of a possible escalation between hezbollah and israel, with fears only heightened after this attack. ophthalmologist elias varak is among those treating those injured in pager blasts, and here's what he told the bbc about the injuries he deals with. all i can say is kind of a nightmare. for me, as a doctor, this is the worst day of my life. in my estimation, the amount injuries and the type of damage inflicted is simply enormous. unfortunately, we could not save many eyes. i can tell you that somewhere from 60

to 70% of patients had to remove at least one eye. and we are talking about... young people, about patients who are over 20. unfortunately, škoda is not limited to those who remain. some of them have intracranial injuries, brain damage, in addition to injuries to the face, nose, mouth, ears, and unfortunately, most of them have lost at least one arm. the treatment will be long and painful. if we succeed save even one eye, that's it. achievement, as i already said, some patients had to remove both eyes, it hurts me a lot, because in my entire medical practice of 25 years, i removed fewer eyes than in one past day. although israel does not

take responsibility for these explosions , lebanon, the azbulla movement, and iran blame the telyavs for them. according to observers, there is no other state or organization that has the technical capabilities and intention to strike such a serious blow against hezbollah. correspondent of the bbc on security issues, he says that this operation of the israeli special services is unprecedented in scope. indeed, this is an unprecedented case, in terms of the scale of implementation, but not in terms of method. the first such thing happened in january 1996, when employees of the israeli domestic intelligence shinbet, which is an analogue of the american or british fbi, disappeared. yahya ayyash. he was responsible for making bombs for hamas, was an engineer and trained many people in the technique of making explosive devices for suicide bombers. the special services managed to lay down explosives in his mobile phone. approximately 50 g of explosives were placed inside the device.

this was enough to kill ayesha. in the same case, there was mass sabotage of thousands of pagers used by hezbollah. by the way, pagers are more like museum nixpo. technologies of the 20th century, but at the same time, it is one of the means of one-way communication, when the recipient only receives a message, he cannot send anything himself. hezbollah gave these devices to members of the group because pagers were believed to be low-tech devices and their much safer to use. they do not have built-in gps, so israel would not be able to track members of the group. but these pagers. it looks like they were broken and 10 to 20 g of high-explosive substance was placed inside each of them, maybe it was the military substance octogen or something like it, which was disguised as electrical components. so, someone gained access to the supply chain of the devices and was able to stage such

a large-scale sabotage. the case was undoubtedly a major intelligence blow for both hezbollah and its sponsor, iran. tension. by hezbollah and israel has grown significantly since the start of the war in the gaza strip. and since october of last year, hezbollah fighters have launched more than 800 rockets into northern israel. for its part, israeli. the authorities do not comment on the mass explosions of communication devices erupted in lebanon, bbc correspondent in jerusalem yolanda nel more. tensions between israel and its longtime enemy hezbollah in lebanon were already very high, and now they have increased even more. hezbollah clearly blames israel, but there has been no official comment, not even from the office the prime minister of israel, nor from the israeli military. and it's not clear at this point if this is... another dramatic turn in the long-standing tug-of-war between israel and various iranian proxies and iran itself

in the region, or if this is another step toward full-scale war between israel and hezbollah? of course, in recent days israel has threatened that it is ready to intensify its military actions to bring home thousands of residents of the north of the country. they were taken out of there because of the fighting that has been going on between israel and hezbollah almost every day for many months. parallel to the war in gas. meanwhile, the bbc verified team studied the images of the destroyed pagers and found the manufacturer's company, it is based in taiwan, however, the company does not take responsibility and says: the pager manufacturer is in hungary. bbc verify has examined images posted on social media. they show fragments of two pagers that were destroyed in the explosions in lebanon on tuesday. these pagers are large. plan images began to circulate online shortly after the explosions.

on the back of both pagers you can see the barcode and the word gold. next to it is what looks like the beginning of the model number - ap or ar. this alone indicates that they could have been manufactured by taiwan-based company gold apollo. however, the founder denied any involvement. he stated that the pagers were created by a hungarian firm with which... they signed a cooperation agreement, let's look at their official statement: the key part here, where it says this model is manufactured and sold by bac. they also claim that apollo is only licensing the brand's trademark and does not participate in the development or manufacture of the product. his legal address is this building in the suburbs of budapest, opposite a film studio called spark. our team has been studying bac con since morning. this is their website, this is indeed the same address as the gold

apollo statement, and interestingly on this page on their website, the company indicates that they are working on technology projects, which include the sale of telecommunications products, which also includes companies from asia that are expanding. as ceo and founder the website lists crisiana archidino barsona, and this. about her we tried to contact her to learn more about the company. we have called her several times, but have not yet been able to get through to her. however , she told nbc news that her company worked with gold apollo, but only as an intermediary and did not make pagers. our team also reviewed company records and found that bac konalting was only registered in may 2022, with a single shareholder. if you look again at the location of this building, like bac, there are 13 others registered here

companies. we also looked at the financial database and bac had minimal turnover or ties to other companies. so, while we're on the air, our behind-the-scenes team is working non-stop trying to get in touch with the company and tell you even more. so, day two of pager and walkie-talkie explosions in lebanon. led to the injuries of more than 3 thousand people, more than 20 people died. pagers were used by members of the lebanese group gsbla. however, according to the ministry of health of lebanon, there are also civilians among the victims. lebanon iran and the sla movement are blamed for these explosions by israel, which has not commented on it in any way, and on friday the un security council will hold a hearing on the mass explosions of devices in lebanon. and un secretary general antonio guterres called the wave of explosions a threat. escalation of the conflict in the middle east. so, subscribe to our pages on social networks

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congratulations, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the second part of the verdict program, me. my name is serhiy rudenko, and for the next 45 minutes we will talk about the following. the secret plan to win. next week , the president of ukraine will present a strategy for overcoming russian aggression in the united states? does zelensky have a backup plan in case of a negative response from biden? raising

taxes and rebooting customs. team. is looking for an additional half a trillion to finance the army, shouldn't it be necessary to optimize spending on the state apparatus first, the budget of pessimism, the cabinet of ministers submitted to the parliament a draft of the country's main estimate for next year, why the government wants to preserve the funding of a single telethon against the background of the freezing of social standards. we will talk about all this with our guests today, however, before starting our conversation, i suggest you take part in our survey. today we ask you this: do you expect biden's approval of zelensky's victory plan, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, or yes, or no, if you have your separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video. if you watch

us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the 0800 numbers. 211 381 yes, no, 0800 211 382 e no, so all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, and we already have our first expert on the phone, this is vitaly kulyk, director of the center for researching civil society problems, mr. vitaly, i congratulate you, thank you for joining us. serhiy taran, a political scientist, should still be on our air, we are waiting for the inclusion, mr. vitaly, if you were to answer this question as tv viewers, our viewers, what would you say, do you hope for biden's approval of zelensky's victory plan? i think that what is called zelensky's plan for

victory, it is not a big secret for biden, and in many ways it was agreed by the american country and our other western partners. it is only a question of specification, some parameters, some qualitative indicators of its implementation phasing, but in general it is obvious, and it was clear what we are talking about, about the phased conduct of negotiations, that negotiations are not necessarily the end of the war, that is, the beginning of the negotiation process is the end of the war, that this is not a sign of equality, actually speaking, this is what biden zelskyi will talk about, we will talk in more detail during this program. about this, because there are various statements, there is a statement by zelensky, there are many publications in the western press that write about this plan for victory, but let's start our conversation from today in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, more precisely, because the parliament failed to pass resolution no. 1118 on the de-russification of the names of 333

ukrainian residents. items and a member of the verkhovna rada committee on humanitarian policy, mykola knyazhytskyi, explained the failure of the vote on the resolution by the active work in the hall of opponents of the renaming. let's listen to what knyazhytsky said. today there was a resolution on renaming settlements in connection with our policy of decolonization. there are many cities that are called may day or may day other names are associated either with the russian invaders or with the communist past of the communists. ideology, we've always done that, but now the decolonization clause has been added to it, the committee has been working for a very long time on this bill, on this resolution, it was brought to the floor, everyone hoped that there would be enough votes because... you know, to the floor the questions that are ready are raised, on the other hand, the opponents of these renamings actively worked in the hall, as a result there were 208 votes, as far as i remember, and

ruslan stefanchuk tried to explain why they didn't actually vote, it was supposed to be about five settlements that were supposed to vote in the parliament, but the majority in the verkhovna rada was against it, that is, a dispute... we considered renaming yuzhny, yuzhnoukrainsky, senelnykovy, pervomaisk and pavlograd. and here is such a story, and i must tell you, dear viewers, that serhii taran, a political expert and political scientist, has already joined us. mr. serhiy, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. therefore, in the conditions of war, the verkhovna rada refuses to implement the law on decolonization and does not want to vote for the renaming of 330. three cities and villages in ukraine, why do you think that the parliament nevertheless demonstrates the inability to make

decisions that are undoubtedly of great importance during the war, because we know that the russians, who enter our territory, the first thing they do is return lenin monuments, soviet streets, as well as soviet names of cities. mr. vitaly, perhaps i will go against the grain, as they say, i would like to ask the citizens who live in these settlements whether they are ready to changes in the name of their settlements, as far as i know, some of them, which are on this list, were categorically, well, a large part of sociology showed that they were against the change proposed either by the institute of memory, or those that appeared in the documents submitted to the verkhovna rada about the change. of their name, therefore, in my opinion, this issue should still be discussed, including with the residents of these places, and the

renaming initiative should come from there, and not from above from the power structures, the central government, as i understand it we now have to speed up decolonization, some decisions have to be made quickly, and we don't have time for local referendums, but the polls at least could have done some work in the previous one could have done, such work, say, in some settlements, the same ones that appeared in critical remarks, well, it was not held, so i, well, i do not see another result of the vote either, there is no consensus on this issue in the hall, just as there is no consensus between the central government and the communities that are trying to rename, well, honestly, in in kyiv, once... the residents of the capital were asked whether the komsomolskaya, pionerskaya, and red square metro stations were needed. do you remember that these are the names of

the stations in the metro stations, so obviously we would never have reached a consensus , if the authorities don't, wait, the settlement and the name of the streets are different things, they are fundamentally different things, the settlement is where i live, it is a settlement connected with a certain historical memory, it is a settlement , as a matter of fact, well... the settlement of vatutine is this, how can it be considered that for this for this on of communism, there is a law of decommunization, there is a consensus regarding renaming, as a rule, in most cases, when it came to communist names, the local community made certain compromises and agreed to the renaming, that is, the initiative was pushed from below also, in this case the work was insufficient, as far as i am concerned, with pavlograd, with southern ukrainian and others, thank you, people's deputy of ukraine, roman lozynskyi... fractions the voice said that in ukraine, in the ukrainian parliament, there is an informal association of deputies of moskovskyi of the patriarchy, who

tricked their colleagues with all the truths and lies, that's why there were only 208 votes for the taboo, this is a total shame for ukraine, this is revenge. mr. sergey, is this a rematch? it is rather indifference to issues of identity, well, it must be said that the overwhelming majority, maybe even the majority. of those deputies who are now in the parliament, they did not go to the parliament to change identity politics at all, especially during the war, they were concerned about other issues, many of them were simply engaged in populism, some of them at all i got there by accident, and when it comes to such issues, very delicate and important issues that require discussion and explanation, such as identity, many of them simply do not think that this is a priority, so they could not agree before voting on , to... after all, rename those settlements, those names that were associated with the communist government, so this is just the face of the parliament, the fact that we cannot finally

overcome this soviet... decline, well, of course, that the formation of identity politics - this is primarily the prerogative of the central government, because the central government asks the question of what kind of country we are, in which we live, what language we speak, what is our vision of history, this is of course a question for the central government, of course it is necessary to consult with local self-government bodies, but we must understand that identity must still be formed at the central level, otherwise we will get a lot of and... identity within one country, and we know what this can lead to, well, at least on the example of other countries. by the way this thesis, that the identity itself is formed at the local level, it is so very popular in russia, in russia they have always tried to convince us that this is the prerogative of local authorities, but i think that, of course, this is the prerogative of the central government, which has to take responsibility and finally overcome this legacy that no one needs,

because we are for... as we can already see, we are already, well, i hope, everyone can see that it is not just a question of culture, history, it's even a bigger issue, it's a security issue, that security of the country, because depending on the historical environment in which the citizens live, the country may or may not be able to defend itself against external aggression, of course, and mr. vitaly, already taking into account your opinion, or at all during... a war with the country , the aggressor, with russia, or whether it could have consequences for the parliament at all, when trust in the verkhovna rada will decrease, including due to such, not making such decisions? do you think that trust in the verkhovna rada will increase due to the adoption of such a decision? i think that trust in the verkhovna rada is traditionally low, but in this situation, that is, when you see that there is a whole association sitting there that

cannot... vote for the banning of the moscow church in ukraine, or cannot vote for decommunization and decolonization, the question generally arises, why is such a verkhovna rada needed? well, if you orient the symbols, then it is possible that way, if we talk more globally about the impossibility of voting on important decisions, there is the issue of demobilization of military personnel, the issue of connection with economic policy, the issue connected with a whole case of legislative initiatives that have been stalled in the parliament, which do not go to... the committees, we are generally talking about the inefficiency of the parliament as a body, which is simply a remote module of the president's office, in which a certain decision is made and effective results are achieved voting by motivating a part of the party of satellites who add votes, and no majority exists. the parliament lost its trust not because of the approval of any single law, this issue has been systemic for the past five years, in fact the entire term - it is

complete destruction of trust in the parliament. i absolutely agree with you, let's put it this way, this is an obvious evidence that the parliament is losing its subjectivity, and has probably lost its subjectivity during this time when power was actually concentrated and remains concentrated in the hands of one or more persons in the state, and it is this body, the highest legislative body, that turns into one of the sub-districts. sections of the office of the president of ukraine, well, we all know about that, but in this situation it is important to understand, and what is the role of the parliament, including in the formation of this plan for the victory of zelenskyi, whether it should or should be at least some information brought to the people's deputies of ukraine, discussed, because it is clear that the verkhovna rada of ukraine has specialists, narrow specialists, including in the formation

of likenesses. victory plans, or similar plans, but the parliament was not involved, and next week zelenskyi’s team is preparing to present a victory plan to present to the allies, and this was announced by president zelenskyi the day before, let’s listen to what zelenskyi said in various formats of the meeting with preparation of our ukrainian plan. victories, real fulfillment of all points, military fulfillment, political, diplomatic, economic, more than 90% of everything is written out, and in the complex this package can ensure the correct development of the situation not only for ukraine, but also for everyone in the world who values ​​international law . today, the president of ukraine said that this

victory plan is 100% ready, but... but since.