an invitation for ukraine to join nato before the president of the united states of america, biden leaves the white house, is part of the victory plan he will present in washington. whether or not this can be part of this grand plan of victory, given that this is a rather difficult decision, and biden, if he will voice it or somehow articulate it, it is extremely obvious in order to play some role in the election campaign. vice president kamala harris or not? but there are risks here, because it is the involvement of the united states states world war iii, that's a card trump is increasingly using, and his vice president, they're talking about it directly, and and and trump's latest interview that he, he's not sure whether china or russia is enemies, he does not see them as enemies. and

obviously he will try not to annoy as precisely as the biden administration, they still hope that with russia there will be an opportunity to return to business as usual, some kind of reboot, this is a certain tradition in every american administration, but here the situation even more difficult that it is not enough that biden's desire for ukraine to receive this... invitation, we remember that bush in the last month of his presidency, president bush, he sincerely wanted, i spoke with his team, he was just such a team, and his national security advisor, his team, tried so hard to slow him down, but he really wanted ukraine to receive an action plan regarding the membership of ukraine and georgia, and he visited both georgia and ukraine, and he met opposition, in particular from chancellor merkel, from biden there is scholz, who...

does not differ in active support, therefore, even if somewhere politically it would sound like the desire of president biden, then we cannot count on the fact that we will receive a formal invitation on behalf of all of nato, ukraine, so this, this is more, well, this is more a conversation about, again, we will with you as much as necessary, mr. olezh, this whole story with the preparation of the plan of victory. zelenskyi coincided with the discussion by the leaders of the united states of america and great britain about granting ukraine the right to strike with their weapons, western weapons on the territory russian federation? and the president of the united states of america met with the prime minister of great britain last friday the 13th and they also tried to discuss it somehow, i understand, but judging by the information that comes from the white house, this is the case.

there is no solution, why is there no such solution? well , we can go back to scholz, who literally two days ago said again that the communards will never, never be slaves, scholz and germany will never give us incitement, ask who the hell, there is no answer, there is just a solid political position, respectively, and this talk about granting permission to use. missiles, first of all, in terms of military experts, they say that the long-range range is 1,000 km, and up to 1,000 km, these are not even long-range missiles, of course, if we now have 80, 100, for us already 300 km seems like a long range, but this is a technical issue, and a political issue, most likely a decision will be made to give permission to use missiles with this range to... not american

production, and we heard that it was being conducted great britain, italy, maybe, but again before the change of the presidential administration in washington, i do not expect such a principled decision from biden and his sullivans, it must be understood that this will already be a challenge for the next president or president of the united states. well, but now sir. the challenge for the whole world is the provision of ballistic missiles by the iranian side to russia for strikes on the territory of the ukrainian state, there was a rather harsh reaction last week, and london and washington, and france, including paris, made decisions about sanctions, the next sanctions against iran , to be honest, it is incomprehensible to me why ukraine took place only... by the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, and we

still maintain diplomatic relations with iran, you don't know, well, that's how iran got baptized. or what are they doing there and swore that he did not give any rockets through the mouth of his minister of foreign affairs, that that's all, you are lying, iran told us, which is known precisely for the fact that it is easy, we remember the situation with the downed plane , that he is very simply telling a lie, but for now it is like a situation genocide in ukraine, when the international institutions were held here, they said that there is not enough evidence that this is us... genocide, or maybe you are just being killed somehow without genocidal intentions, and here in the world there is still a lack of evidence that such missiles were staged in russia, but when the facts will happen, when the debris will be found there,

analyzed, some time will pass, but then we will think, this is a very strange position, because it should have been the case that the world acted based on prejudice, well, i will not . we will wait until something terrible happens again in ukraine, an information wave will come, and then in response to another level of unprecedented crimes, we will be given the opportunity to take some countermeasures, but this is all a reactive position, and putin feels this weakness very well, when there are doubts, these are the red lines that you talked a little there... about the fact that the intelligence agencies are communicating there, drawing something there, some other threats, that this time it is no longer acceptable, that if now, we will definitely talk to you about all your american

european positions with nuclear weapons, well, we we can react to it in different ways, but people like biden, scholz and some other european politicians are actually affected by it. and since the entire political struggle is going on, in particular, there is growing oppositional sentiment between germany, france has a difficult situation, russia is using this very skillfully, this is what russia knows how to do, it knows how to play on the weaknesses of the western world, they have studied the psychology of the western world quite well, and the western world through the eyes of the same biden or scholz, he still did not understand putin and does not know. how you should really behave here, the british are sharply different, the countries that were neighbors of the soviet union are different, and from the baltics or scandinavia , but in fact, in this regard, biden and salt are simply very easily predicted, and putin

quite simply plays on their phobias. another dictator and self-proclaimed president of belarus, lukashenko, speaking... on the day of national unity in belarus, warned the west against attacking belarus, because he says that there will be a third world war. let's hear what he said. western special services talk about belarus as a possible place of escalation. i just want to warn our adversaries, our rivals, and those who don't understand yet. don't do it, it won't help. in short, mr. oleg, what do you think in general about the role, the current role of lukashenka, it is clear that he is now more

inclined towards beijing, and therefore he can talk about the third world war here and that his roof is actually much wider, than we imagine, that is, not only putin's roof. well, yes, he already has missiles with nuclear warheads, and he can use them tactical strike lukashenko reminds himself from time to time, but please note that even our special services do not perceive his maneuvers at all, when they push something under the border, threaten, threaten with counterattacks, he is just, well, he already has this roach, no one really takes him seriously does not perceive it, but he... obviously fears that he can be simply removed imperceptibly, and that is why he is doing maneuvers there, conducting joint exercises with china, looking for some benefit of his own, but the level of threat to us from lukashenka has dropped significantly, because he understands , as our military said, well, we

will go to minsk in a few days through the forests, and he understands that the support in belarusian society will be much greater than it was, the support of the russians in the kursk region, that is why he says so, but the threat from him is less and less and less thank you, mr. oleg, for the conversation, it was oleg hrybachuk, the former deputy prime minister of ukraine. former head of yushchenko's presidential office. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel. let's look at the results of our survey, these are intermediate results television survey. we ask you this: do you expect biden's approval of zelensky's victory plan. 37% - yes, 63% - no. in september, there are discounts on nephrobam, 10% in pharmacies. road worker, bam, and savings. thousands of ukrainians found themselves in a similar situation,

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zelenskyi assures that the victory plan will be presented to the allies next week. all the most important thing today at 21:15 in the project is veliky lviv. a square where everyone gets to speak and everyone is heard. on the air of the espresso tv channel. get up overcame the 100th separate mechanized brigade of the armed forces of ukraine. protect yours. the result of their work is our safety. they, the boys from volyn, proved that everyone can be a warrior. strong in spirit, they appreciate the ability to stand side by side with their brothers and sisters, all the way to holy victory. everyone who pilots a uav, understands it, prepares, treats, repairs, winds kilometers of roads, fills out piles of documents, significantly strengthens those who cover the enemy with a flurry of fire and turn. meter by meter our native land, join the ranks of the hundredth separate mechanized

brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, let's keep the line together. greetings , friends, the second part of the verdict program is live on the espresso tv channel. my name is serhii rudenko, and for the next 45 minutes we will talk about the following. secret... victory plan next week , the president of ukraine will present a strategy to overcome russian aggression in the us? does zelenskyi have a back-up plan just in case? biden's negative response. increase taxes and customs reset. coma 821381 - yes, no. 0800 211-382 - no. therefore, all calls to these numbers are free. vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. and we

already have our first expert in touch, this is vitali. kulyk, director of the center for the study of civil society problems, mr. vitaly, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our conversation. serhii taran, a political scientist, should still be on our air, we are waiting for inclusion, mr. vitaly, if you would answer this question, as tv viewers, our viewers, what would you said, do you expect biden's approval of zelensky's victory plan? i think that what is called the plan, about victory, it is not a big secret for biden, and in many ways it was agreed by the american country by our other western partners, it is only a matter of specification, some parameters, some qualitative indicators about its implementation and phasing , but in general it is obvious, and it was clear what we are talking about, about the phased conduct of negotiations, about the fact that negotiations

are not necessarily the end of the war, that is the beginning of the negotiation process is the end of the war, that it is not... the equality sign, actually, that is what biden zelenskyi will talk about, we will talk about it in more detail during this program, because there are various statements, there is a statement by zelenskyi, there are many publications in the western to the press writing about this victory plan, but let's start our conversation from today in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, more precisely, from the fact that the parliament failed to pass resolution number 11. 188 on the de-russification of the names of 333 ukrainian settlements and a member of the verkhovna rada's committee on humanitarian policy mykola knyazhytskyi explained the failure of the vote on the resolution by the active work in the hall of opponents of the renaming. let's listen to what knyazhytsky said. today

there was a resolution on renaming settlements in connection with our policy of decolonization, there are many cities. which are called may 1st, may 1st, or have other names connected either with the russian invaders, or with the communist past, with the communist ideology, we have always done this, but now a clause has been added to it decolonization, the committee worked for a very long time on this bill, on this resolution, it was brought to the floor, everyone hoped that there would be enough votes, because, as you know, questions are brought to the floor that are ready, instead, the opponents of these renamings actively worked in hall, as a result there were 208 votes, as far as i remember. well, ruslan stefanchuk tried to explain why they didn't actually vote, it was as if they were talking about five settlements that were supposed to vote in the parliament, but the majority in the verkhovna rada was against this, that is the renaming of yuzhny,

yuzhnoukrainsky, senelnykovy, pervomaysk and pavlograd was considered controversial, and well... that's the story and i have to tell you, dear viewers, that serhii taran, political expert, political scientist, mr. serhii, i congratulate you, thank you , that you are with us today, i congratulate you, therefore, in the conditions of war, the verkhovna rada refuses to implement the law on decolonization and does not want to vote for the renaming of 333 cities and villages in ukraine, why do you think the parliament still does. demonstrates inability to decide decisions that, without any doubt, are of great importance during the war, because we know that the russians, who enter our territory, the first thing they do is return lenin monuments, soviet streets, and soviet names of cities. mr. vitaly,

perhaps i will go against techa, as they say, i would like to ask the citizens who live in these settlements, whether they are ready to change the name of their settlements. as far as i know, some of them that are on this list were categorically, well a large part, the sociology showed that they were against the changes proposed either by the memory institute or those that appeared in the documents submitted to the verkhovna rada about changing their name, so in my opinion, this issue should have been discussed, including with the residents of these cities and with... you to take the initiative on renaming, and not from the power structures, the central government. yes, i understand that we need to speed up decolonization now, some. decisions have to be made quickly, and we don't have time for local referendums, but at least a poll could have been conducted some work could have been done in advance,

such work, say, in some settlements, the same ones that appeared in the critical remarks, well, it was not done, so i actually don’t see another voting result either, there is no consensus on this issue in the hall, and there is no consensus between the central government and the communities that are trying to rename. well, to be honest, if in kyiv you once asked the residents of the capital, whether the komsomolska, pionerska, and red square metro stations are needed, you remember, these are the names that used to be stations in metro stations, then it is obvious that we would never have reached a consensus, no matter what the authorities wait for, the settlement and the name of the streets are different things, it is fundamental. different things, the settlement is where i live, it is the settlement that is connected with a certain historical memory, this is the settlement, actually speaking, well, the settlement of vatutine,

this is how it can be assumed that behind this on decommunization, there is a law of decommunization, there is a consensus regarding renaming, as a rule, in most cases, when it came to communist names, the local community went to certain compromises and agreed to the renaming, that is, the initiative was subsidized from the bottom as well, in this case. the work was not enough, in my opinion, in particular with pavlograd, with south ukrainian and others. thank you, people's deputy of ukraine, roman lozynskyi from the voice faction said that in ukraine, in the ukrainian parliament, there is an informal association of deputies of the moscow patriarchate, who deceived their colleagues with all truths and lies, so there were only 208 votes on the scoreboard, this is the total it's a shame for ukraine revenge. mr. sergey, is this a rematch? gives rather indifference to issues of identity, well, it must be said that the vast majority, maybe even the majority of those deputies who are now in the parliament, did

not go to the parliament to change identity politics at all, especially during the war, they were concerned about other issues , many of them were just engaged in populism, some of them even got there by accident, and when it comes to such issues, very delicate issues and important ones that need discussion, explanation, like identity, then many of them simply do not believes that this is a priority, but they could not agree before the vote on renaming those settlements, those names that were associated with the communist government, so this is just the face of the parliament, something that we cannot to finally overcome this soviet legacy, well, of course, the formation of identity politics is primarily the prerogative of the central government, because the central government asks the question, and... what kind of country we are, in which we live, what language should we speak, what is our vision of history this is, of course, a question for the central government, it is necessary, of course, to consult with

local self-government bodies, but we must understand that identity must still be formed at the central level, otherwise we will get a lot of identity within one country, and we know why this can lead, well, at least on the example of other countries, by the way, this thesis, that identity itself... at the local level, it is so very popular in russia, it is in russia that they have always tried to convince us that this is the prerogative of local authorities , but i i think that, of course, this is the prerogative of the central government, which must take responsibility and finally overcome this legacy that no one needs, because we are now, as we can already see, we are already, well, i hope, everyone can see that this is not only is there a question of culture, history, it is even more of a question, it is a question of security. this is the security of the country, because depending on the historical environment in which the citizens live, the country may or may not be able to defend itself against external aggression,

of course, and mr. vitaly, considering your opinion, whether or not at all during the war with the country, the aggressor with russia, or whether at all it can have consequences for the parliament, when the trust. to the verkhovna rada will decrease , including because of such non-adoption of such decisions? do you think that trust in the verkhovna rada will increase due to the adoption of such a decision? i think that trust in the verkhovna rada is traditionally low, but in this situation, well , that is, when you see that there is a whole association sitting there that cannot vote to ban the moscow church in ukraine, or not can vote for decommunization and decolonization, arises at all. question, why is such a verkhovna rada needed? well, if you are guided by symbols, then it is possible, but if we talk more globally about the impossibility of voting on important decisions, there is the issue of demobilization of military

service. the issues are related to economic policy, the issues are related to a whole case of legislative initiatives that have stalled in the parliament, which do not even pass the committees, we are generally talking about the inefficiency of the parliament as a body, where there is simply a takeaway the module of the president's office, in which a certain decision is made and effective voting is achieved by motivating a part of the party of satellites who add votes, but there is no such majority, the parliament has lost its trust not because of the emphasis on which... adopted law, this issue has been systemic for the last few months years, in fact this entire tenure is a complete destruction of trust in parliamentarism. i absolutely agree with you, let's put it this way, this is an obvious evidence that the parliament is losing its subjectivity and probably lost its subjectivity during this time, when power was in fact concentrated and remains concentrated in the hands of one or more persons in the state and itself...

this body, the highest legislative body, turns into one of the divisions of the office of the president of ukraine, well, we all know about this, in this situation, it is important to understand, and what is the role of the parliament, including in the formation of this plan for the victory of zelenskyi, or whether it should or should be at least some information brought to the people's deputies of ukraine, discussed, because... of course, that the verkhovna rada of ukraine has specialists, narrow specialists, including in the formation of similar victory plans, or similar plans, but the parliament was not involved, and next week zelenskyi's team is preparing to present a victory plan to present to allies, and this was announced by president zelenskyi the day before. let's listen to what zelensky said.

in various formats of the meeting on the preparation of our ukrainian victory plan, the actual filling of all points, military filling, political, diplomatic, economic, more than 90% of everything is written out, and as a whole, this package can ensure the correct development of the situation not only for ukraine, but also for everyone in the world who... appreciates international law, today the president of ukraine said that this victory plan is 100% ready, but since the international press writes different, today limon writes about the fact that there seems to be a clause that provides for biden's statement at the end of his presidential term, that ukraine will be in nato, will join nato,

that is, the statement must be made. at the end of biden's presidential term, mr. serhiu, how do you perceive the fact that the plan for the victory of ukraine is known only to a few people, is it a necessity of wartime, maybe there is something secret, or is it possible that it is connected with the fact that the ukrainians, who are actually going to victory and leading ukraine to victory, should not know this, well, you see, we are now commenting on the victory plan, which we have not... seen or read, although the mass media abroad, i emphasize abroad, publish entire passages from this victory plan, or entire theses , so we are in a difficult situation, but i will say how i perceive this plan of victory, i i perceive it as primarily a political document that ukraine is preparing in connection with the fact that in the west, in view of the american elections, they are preparing for...