in those numbers, if we even talk about the help that we receive from the united states, from our other partners, and how much more we need to at least match the costs that we can still, hopefully for a short time, afford it is a wrong position to match the finances of the russian war, we cannot match the aggressor who attacked our country, but we can in technology. in terms of how they build their economy, they have a so-called war economy, they put it on the war flights, what does that mean, they directed all the state finances to the military industry, how should we do it, we cannot compete in that area, we need to build an innovative, creative economy, the economy of small hubs, small teams, where, for example , and this is an example where there are also where small teams come together, generate ideas, and those ideas are very quickly ...

embodied on the battlefield, let's take today's drone and drone three three months ago, let's say this, in the summer, in the beginning of the summer , and now these are completely different drones, they are more powerful, with more functional and so on, how to do it, how ideas are generated, i even give another example, there is the apple corporation, there is the microsoft corporation, apple was founded by steve jobs and steve wozniak, who were from very poor families, had no family at all. capital and so on minimal and microsoft, which had a large start-up capital, but at the same time these companies are now competing strongly, so today's direction is innovative, it is creative, small teams that generate many ideas that are implemented at once, everything is also possible here also translate into domestic rails, you can introduce your own financial system, we, we see, are a private bank, a material bank with material... premises and monobank,

which is virtual, so it is possible to introduce such economic and financial mechanisms that will make it possible to finance your own investments, and what is needed, i.e. the total amount of money, it does not play a role, but the efficiency of use and attraction, in fact, we have to be much more efficient here, it is like at the beginning, i am sorry for the comparison, it is like at the beginning of a full-scale the invasion, when russia pushed with its huge number of soldiers, and the ukrainians acted in er... small, but effective groups, effective and, how to choose the right words, small groups that can move quickly and attack the enemy unexpectedly, from the back and so on, well, going to the rear, look, they mentioned south korea here, south korea, when they, when they stood on their feet, first of all, the population surrendered, carried their savings, gold reserves, surrendered everything to the state for free, well without, let’s say , without the return was giving them a... second, they are

now, they are the largest shipbuilder in the world, how, because the united states is buying ships, europe is buying, so there has to be a consumer market for the country to develop, so is singapore, it was given a part financial markets, he became wealthy on it. mr. podlyzny, i have a question for you, here is your knowledge as the head of the aviation department. them and phds, how should we find an approach and a key to our western partners so that they accept our philosophy of waging war, our philosophy victory, because i think that for many of our western partners, although no one talks about it in public, our desires ... the borders of '91, our

philosophy of victory, so to speak, does not always correspond to their, their vision of , how it can happen in our territory. we have a task before us, both before ukraine and before society, on the one hand, it is before the country, before our diplomatic corps, before politicians, and the task before our society is various public figures. who have contacts at the event to report no only to the officials in the west, but also to their societies, what is the essence of this war? because when we are called for negotiations, when we are told that peace is important, let's just include simple logic, because until 2014 we had an agreement with russia on peace and cooperation. so it was, so there is

a reason that changed all this, and this reason is called very simply: russia's revanchist ambitions to become a superpower again. accordingly, any negotiations about anything that do not take into account what is the cause of this war revanchist ambitions of russia, until then any negotiations, any proposals of the west will not make sense. obviously, i have the opportunity to be at various international, political, religious, academic platforms, i see that there is a certain understanding in them. they, however, also take into account different schedules there, they take into account the global south, they take china, they take, and where is their place, because, for example, the european union is quite weakened now, including economically, and they would like to end this war in any way, but when

it is correct to convey the position that if the cause of this war is not stopped, then the war will continue in a year or so. in 10 years, and the cause of this war will be able to make up for its reserves, not only human, which they have significantly more than in ukraine, but also material, they are now pulling out of warehouses, modernizing something, asking all over the world to china, in north korea, in iran, give us weapons, because there are not enough, but if there is peace, just peace, or a cease-fire, it will give them... the ability to continue to be the cause lack of peace, to be the cause of war, therefore our task is to convey the essence of this war: firstly, that it is a revanchist war, secondly, they will not stop at ukraine, they actually need ukraine as much as it is

the first step, they need to have the name of russia, they you need to have the source of christianity, there is chersonese, ikea, which came to them, they need to have a lot of things. but they will not stop there, so we must convey a very serious message to them, unless there is a first position of negotiations on the terms of ukraine, until then this war will never end, and this is the main thing is that many people understand it, it was mentioned here that sikorsky mentioned that let's put crimea under the mandate of the un, prepare some there. listen, i 've heard it before, i've heard it before from austrian politicians, i've already heard it in the vatican in 2022 in the month of april, and it's a problem, because the austrians are still neutral, the vatican has always taken such a position that ukraine was outraged, here are the poles,

our closest allies, look at all these proposals for a peace treaty with russia, which was still being developed at the time, but it went to everyone capitals, that is, for some reason sikorsky is not you. this is from my finger, well, i read these texts, well, there was a proposal to put it under the mandate of the un until 2042, then to hold a referendum, whatever people say, they will go there, and there the austrians offered various arguments that once it was there with tyrol, it was once there with vorarlberg, their lands, where they offered to shuffle there, they offer us the same thing, so sikorsky took it out of the drawer, why did he take it out? well, that's another question, wouldn't you like it seems to me that bezsmertny was right when he said that now it is not necessary for anyone to kindle these sparks that have appeared between kyiv and warsaw, including the poles, speaking for the poles here, they

tell us from time to time that we should be grateful, and we are not grateful for the fact that they help, they just sometimes simulate such a situation for themselves, but let's imagine that they had to face it, huh. in moscow, you remember, before those elections, thanks to which both sikorsky came to power and tusk became a stavier minister, some plans for the defense of poland surfaced, if suddenly an attack from the east, where they start the defense on the axis, that is, along the warsaw-krakow line, ugh, then the question is who should be grateful, and by the way, a very interesting interview, the editor of european pravda did . just with radoslov sikorsky, and he asked him about what was happening, this is the question that all ukrainians have, we also raised it in the studio, why, when missiles from the russian federation fly to them, they do not shoot them down, he tried to ask why there is no reaction from them, and sikorsky answered this, we we can see it, the text of it, and there is also

a video, search on the internet, he mentioned how much money they give us, how they help, and says: poland also has its needs, we only have two batteries. patriot then says that the constitution obliges us to defend our territory, of course we have to shoot down because we are defending our land, but the operation you are talking about, i.e. to kill those missiles that are allegedly flying into ukraine, requires full cooperation in nato. well, obviously, there is no such instruction, task, agreement with nato, and what they have the resource cannot be beaten, he also hinted at it. we will return to this, we will change the topic a little, we have with us lyubomyr mylnychuk, a representative of the all-ukrainian freedom association, the head of the faction in the lviv city council. mr. lyubomire, today there was a regular meeting in the case of iryna farion, there they changed and continued the restraining orders. a cover-up for the suspect in her murder, and what are the results, are you, in principle,

satisfied with them, as irina forion's siblings? well, congratulations, yes indeed, today the halytsky district court of the city of lviv considered the prosecution's request for a 60 -day extension, remand, remand, instead of uh... the defense completely objected, and they wanted that remand changed to 24-hour house arrest, but the court, i think absolutely rightly, did not change preventive measure and continued the detention of the suspect zinchenko for another 60 days, this is, to put it briefly in relation to today's case, in addition... in addition, in my opinion, the defense sometimes tries to drag out the process, that is

today they filed a complaint with the prosecutor, even before that they wrote a complaint against the daughter of iryna dmitrievna, sofya, there with a change, or rather with the appointment of defenders. er , the situation has changed a little and the rhetoric has changed, when we remember from the first days when this man was detained, he answered sofia's question there, why did he do it, he answered we'll see, that is, i understand, no , no no, uh, evaded direct answers there about clothes, about staying. now the defense has a slightly different rhetoric to mine

the opinion is to prolong the process with the aim of slightly defocusing this important case with the aim of, i don't know, the collapse of this case or the mitigation of the consequences. uh, for his client, if, if his guilt is proven, therefore, as of now, in principle, we are completely logical, we are satisfied with the court's decision, there is no reason to release the suspect, even under house arrest, this is too resonant the case is too serious, her evidence in the police and... that's why this decision is absolutely legal, mr.

lubomyr, one more question, and one topic that we we have to touch on this broadcast, the project of the city of velikiy lviv works for the whole of ukraine, we are watched on youtube not only on the territory of our country, but nevertheless, i think that many people yesterday heard and saw such alarming news on telegram channels from... anonymous telegram channels about the possibility of terrorist attacks in lviv schools and today there were policemen on duty near every lviv school, fortunately this information did not come true, or the law enforcement officers did what they were supposed to do, namely to prevent criminal acts that you you can say about this one situation, because it really happened today in lviv. it's quite worrying and many parents just didn't even take their children to school today,

because this information didn't cause panic in the city, let's be honest, and it's understandable, because parents worry about the lives of their children, this is a completely understandable situation, you add more before that, the situation with the arsonists in our city, then the dispersal of this ipso about... arrows in schools and so on, this, well, first of all, nothing new is happening globally, in our city, as well as in the territory of our entire country, in fact there is none safe places and her ipso attacks have been happening since the first day, and the fact that they are now , uh, after the terrible uh, attack on our city, the ipso attacks in relation to the shootings in schools there and so

on have intensified with her caliber, this is a completely targeted attack by her with with the aim... to shake up our society with the aim of sowing panic there, so that people there demand unknown things, panic, fear and so on, so everyone understands this perfectly, lviv and ukraine in general live in this state than two years, so you have to be careful with ibso, but with the other side must understand that the law enforcement agencies, as well as all those who are relevant, must ensure maximum order, follow everyone, follow each other, follow suspicious people who are also in our city, well, after all we are talking about the

farion case, where a woman was killed in broad daylight, and this man was sitting before that. near the entrance is essentially disguised , and unfortunately no one informed the police, it is not known how it would have been if there had been a little more vigilance, so we all have to be vigilant, to follow, to understand that there is a war going on and we have to be vigilant, and regarding this situation, well , it is obvious that this is an ipso and there will be many more such ipso, thank you, lyubomyr mylniachuk, head of the lviv city organization. the deputy head of the faction in the lviv city council touched on two important lviv topics, which are really on the lips of our entire state and we will follow the nta tv channel, the project says velikiy lviv is closely following the farion case, we are broadcasting all the court hearings, talking to the participants, all this, this needs social resonance and

maximum attention and on our youtube channel, in particular you can find broadcasts, comments of participants. olena zhivko, let's return to the topic of a long-term war, because the subjective opinion of many, but subjective and at the same time, probably the opinion that is right, ukraine's readiness for a long-term war can actually seriously affect russia's readiness for real negotiations, because if they see that we are widows. we can’t delay, well, what kind of negotiations, they will delay with their human resources and so on, so similar, how do you a person who communicates with veterans, volunteers, engages, engages as a volunteer, what do you feel now, what are the dynamics, well, i not only communicate with veterans, i am a veteran myself, and

to tell you the truth, we have no choice, no one asks us , whether we stand, we have no chance. if even in our country there were people who thought that we had a chance to survive, then we saw a boom and bust, and i will tell you that the trend is really such that we have an incredible, strong and stable army, and we also always have to remember to remember that our people are dumb, incredibly stable, because we really don't hear even on the street that it is necessary to negotiate, of course there are some weak-minded people who will talk about it. and in fact, when was this story with bloggers, do you remember, after the attack on okhmadite, which, well, i think, those bloggers hit some sections of the population quite seriously, of course, you know that there are always people who are weak, always there are people who are morally not so much, we also do not forget about how the special services work, today the special services can recruit a person on facebook, and these are real stories, so we

should always remember that different people can do it differently. influence, you can give them information from, so to speak, sources close to them, but today we talk a lot about international support, i would actually like to share that for me victory depends on international support, this is military aid, financial support, diplomatic work, pressure on russia, this is understandable, but i would also like to spend a lot of time on what depends on us, on the ukrainians themselves, the first thing that everyone has still remember in this state that... most of all our victory, our stability depends on our armed forces of ukraine, on their planning, all of us in the 22nd, being in the mykolaiv region, i will tell you frankly. i did not believe that we could resist, for some reason i thought that the east of ukraine would still be captured, because i saw these scales, but when i saw how our army

skillfully destroyed the enemy, i saw the losses of the enemy, i understood that we have a chance for such a victory, actually i want to remind you that our military planned to liberate kharkiv region, the idyumsk operation, flawless noseplanes. nor the battles of the same bilogorivka, which were planned by the former commander of our lviv 80th brigade, now the commander of the airborne assault troops, that is, international experts did not plan it for us, that is , about what we said today, that no matter how much money the enemy has, they don't have such smart, clever and indomitable military that we have, this is the first thing, it is also important, it is national unity and morale, russia is throwing away a lot of money, for this and pso, so that we all with you... that we were scared, and it is very important today to be in unity, to be a conscious people, because this consciousness, unity and understanding of what

is happening, it also gives support to our armed forces of ukraine, and for us, in particular, it is very, very, very important that we always remembered this, because when we are united, we will always be strong, also internal politics and reforms, we are talking today about the economy, in march of this year i was in... as part of an official delegation as a veteran and went to of the united states by invitation american government. and they call corruption our main problem. we can plan whatever budgets you want with you. we can have a lot of support. until we overcome corruption in our country, we will not have a strong economy. the world is talking about this and we must talk about it. you know, today there are many of us, corruption is a problem of the state and it is a problem of society, because when it is shown there today. vinkoms who have a lot of money, so who brings them these bribes, not conscious ukrainians who have never given a bribe in their life, that is, because there those who take them and there are those who give them in all

structures, so we must be aware that corruption is a crime, there is no difference whether you take a bribe or give it, and of course, informational support, every ukrainian , as long as he was not there, ukrainians today in every corner of the world should be reminded of the war in any way available to them. ukrainians living abroad, please make photo exhibitions, remind, tell, fast, because it is time for ideas, i see that even those who live in lviv, and those who left, for example, to america, they are already like that, it is further, not further, the war is coming, you can organize a party, you can in different ways, but i think that everyone should understand that from these little a lot depends on the steps, in fact a lot, and when... the ukrainian will be so conscious again, we will definitely win, because of course there are many aspects that do not depend on us, but what you can

do, yes it is necessary to do, i just why to explain like that, because about parties yes, because often you look at different accounts, really, as if it is necessary, and if they collect donations, it is very cool, but very often you look at ukrainians who gather there in the united states of america, they... well, somehow they do it all because of a party and well they are probably not in as much pain as all of us here, i don’t know, i’ll tell you honestly, sometimes you just look like it’s a religious evening and, well, let’s say, the mood is maybe not the same, although i don’t know how many people gather there and everyone watches, has its own pain and its own view, for example , when i returned, lviv was like that to me unpleasant, i was even scolded... people who sit and drink coffee, that is, i understood that this is normal, that is, because life must go on, and america, which cannot convey war with photographs, war is conveyed

by feelings, adrenaline, fear in of your blood, by the smell, that is, there is no photograph that would convey the smell of decomposed bodies, or convey this feeling of blood on your hands, on your clothes, convey your feelings, so if we still feel even in ukraine... this feeling of fear, then america, believe me, it only sees this war by photographs, and it is impossible to feel it, that's why they probably collect in the way that they collect, as they say, and we thank you for that, but still you are right, more needs to be told and shown about the consequences of this war, so that the world feels, let even visually this war, lubomyr skochelyas will have a say in this final round of ours, president zelensky said that in his... well , that is, our ukraine peace plan is almost ready, he will present it next week to biden and the two candidates for his post

president of america already on thursday he will meet precisely with biden in the united states of america, and here the question is what this can give us, how far this strategy is generally correct for us, well, that is, of course, that we do not want to evaluate and question the president's decision there, but what it can give us strategically is that we offer certain, peaceful perspectives that, because he hasn't shown it to us publicly so far, but from what we can see that he's been publishing... the journalist of the japanese publication seems to be talking about that they need more weapons, we should have them help from the world so that we are stronger, i will briefly add to natalie's question, don't you think in the same context that, however, now the views of the ukrainian leadership and the views of our allies, well let's say this, i will say very diplomatically, they sometimes move

such... straight lines that do not always intersect, well, look, i see the situation as follows, that is, i fully support the opinion of the military itself, which was stated at the beginning that the military is still, and this for me, i think, for the majority of ukrainians it was very positive to hear that they are not considering the option of any negotiations, especially since they are disadvantageous for... there must be a plan a and there must be a plan b, yes, that is, plan a is definitely for us, it is a victory in this war, but we see that the international situation at this stage is not in favor of

ukraine, yes. and the change of political elites, and the fatigue of western societies, they do not work on ukraine at the present time, so i think that president zelenskyi and his team, realizing this, are looking for some other ways to strengthen the military position, yes, actually diplomatic and political ways and... and at the same time, i would like to mention that where did this topic of negotiations come from, it was spread by the german newspaper bilt, yes, at least that's how i heard it for the first time, i think that not only journalists, but also many other people know that bilt is a tabloid newspaper, so it is a yellow press that very often makes throws, which then they do not correspond to reality, that is, you have to make a mistake on this, but on the other hand in

the picture. in particular, at one time there appeared this map of the invasion of the russian federation, which it was not, i think, well, but close, but betrayed, once, well, actually, i wanted to finish my opinion by saying that there is no smoke without fire, that's all they didn't get something somewhere, that is, they didn't build their fantasies, but it doesn't correspond to reality one hundred percent, once, secondly, i would like to remind you that president zelensky is still at the beginning. war initiated the ban on negotiations, and we know that there is such a law that prohibits negotiations with russia, yes, that is, it is also, as for me, so far so positive, and at the same time, it was also two months ago , when the presidential candidate trump was just launching his campaign and

it looked like he was... a one-man leader, there was such an event as zelensky's call to trump, yes, that is, he was not an official person of the united states, trump is not yet , but zelenskyi considered it expedient to actually contact him, that is, it already exists game, if for the future, if suddenly something, yes, and the second moment, the second moment, this is... the fact that actually, when we talk about possible negotiations, we are talking about the fact that these negotiations should be exclusively on ukrainian terms, yes, that is, they must be, must be beneficial to ukraine, and here is the question of where the benefit for ukraine ends and where it begins...