it is a completely normal practice, when an employee resigns, he receives all the payments due to him, and the amount of these payments is many times less than what was announced by trukha's telegram channel, which was picked up by 3.5 bloggers and one people's deputy, who was very actively interested precisely this issue, and was very little interested, for example, in the issue of protecting infrastructure objects other than the ukara substation. you know, for example, i never like to count other people's money, it's, well, you won't have more of it, someone won't have less of it because of that, you'll just lose it time and maybe nerve cells, but in any case, when such information gets into the public space, many people will hear and will not hear when this information will be refuted, and when there will be time in ukraine, maybe, well, there are already such precedents , of course, but aren't you interested in, say, well, for example, selling? judgment on people who

will voice such information, just not because you will win something there, or have extra money, most likely extra trouble, well, but simply it would be such a lesson for such figures, and the next time with the next employee of a state company or a politician, they just thought whether to write outright lies or not to write, well, good advice, i will actually think about it, i want to say that on... probably the amount of payments to the manager ukrenergo for several years, it is less than, for example, the sum of the bribe of the deputy minister of energy for one transaction, and i think that the problem, the main problem is not that telegram channels write lies, some people there who have their youtube channels. but there are deputies

mandates spread it, in that with a high probability, unfortunately, it is done for money, and this money is not taken from the white salaries of the top management of companies, but from some obviously shadowy cash flows, and as i said, the scale of obviously much more than the payments there to the management of ukrenergo or some others. energy companies, i have always paid taxes correctly from my salary, i have always received only a white salary during my career, and i am very proud of the fact that, relatively speaking, the higher the salary i receive, the more taxes i can pay to the state budget, well, as for lawsuits, let's see, there will be time, maybe we will deal with it, i hope, by the way, that there is such an initiative in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, regarding to bring out of the shadows

the owners or, well, the ultimate beneficiaries of certain telegram channels that have millions of subscribers, more than a million subscribers, just so that everyone understands who is behind it, because if the media has, well, there are certain media that have less influence than individual telegram channels, now 70, more than 70% of ukrainians get their news from telegram channels, by the way, this is yesterday's information, research, it's just a fact, and that's why, relatively speaking, the espresso tv channel or the direct tv channel, or the rada tv channel or any other tv channel. is answerable to the national commission, to the law, well , other people also have to answer, because it actually already exists as a means of mass information, well, because once again, ukrainians receive this or that news from there, and one more question, again , that's it, well, not personnel, but these rumors, they must be finished already until the end, and then we will return to generation and waiting for the autumn-winter period, and they wrote that the minister may be behind your dismissal. of energy glushchenko, and if so,

why did this information appear? well, this information, first of all, i also said in previous interviews that i consider the ministry to be the initiator of this whole situation. i will repeat once again that it has nothing to do with the bad or good protection of the okrenergo substation, this situation does not exist, it is a complete absurdity, and this is just an obvious desire. operational activities of the company, attempts to do so control began back in the 21st year, controlling the money yes, controlling the money, controlling some, i don't know, personnel appointments within the company, and already in the 21st year, active attempts began there to offer me very good people for various positions in the company's management , which i rejected, there were attempts to change the management of the company outside the supervisory board, and... in the 21st

year, already during the invasion and in the midst of the invasion, there were attempts to change the board once again, there were attempts to dictate, for example, the sequence of debt payments on the electricity market energy, that is, there were quite lively attempts to interfere in our activities, yes, with documents, with official letters, orders, and so on, and we never once succumbed to these attempts, they stopped at some point, obviously, when people realized that it makes no sense to talk to us in such a language. but numerous inspections began, first a ministerial audit, then the state audit service conducted an audit with the participation of representatives of the ministry, then numerous investigations law enforcement agencies, media, by the way

, the attacks too, and they did not start before my dismissal or after my dismissal, they began many months ago, i will remind you that the same lie was published about my salary of 2 million hryvnias and in my opinion it was trukha’s telegram channel that actively dispelled this fake, well, and some other things there, they counted how many air conditioners there are in my house, well, they published some kind of delusion, but obviously it was such an art training, and it is absolutely obvious to me that with greater or lesser intensity there were these attempts, finally to get this control over the company, but now it is a paradoxical situation, because due to the rather active reaction... of society , including our western partners, who entrusted ukrenergo with 1.5 billion euros of funding during the invasion, this is more than the ministry and other energy companies taken together, after this reaction

the process stopped, that is, i was fired, my deputy was appointed by the supervisory board, yes oleksiy brecht, this is our technical director. and in fact now there is such a crossroads, that is, either the normal management system of the company will be restored, when the supervisory board is created, it should have the majority of independent people who supervise the company's activities without any consideration of anyone's whims . i don't know, it's in the ukrainian language, it's just that this word is not from ukrainian, not from ukrainian realities, that's why it sounds like it is not from ukrainian realities, but still, yes, yes, yes, the question is that the institute watchers, this, conditionally, that which has forever, we have

to forget it forever in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or, if you want, civilized, civilized institutions. education, if we go there, then we need to build such institutions, and of course we must not forget that state companies are the property of the public, the property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone, and sometimes officials forget this and start themselves to be identified as if with the owner of a state-owned company, and this is precisely why supervisory boards are needed to insulate the company from such... negative possible impact, in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory board performed this function for several years, and i really hope that after the situation with my dismissal, it will be restored,

a new supervisory board has already been created, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which has already for three winters , the power system was kept in extremely difficult conditions, it was united with the european nervous system, a lot was done to strengthen the defense, that these teams would be allowed to work calmly, well, that is, what an interesting time it is now, well, again, we have to understand, there is oleksiy brecht, who you know, about whom you said, acting on duty, but the work continues, i understand that the train is moving on the same, the same track without turning anywhere. that there is time for there to be an understanding, this person will begin to perform his duties without this prefix or without this prefix, whether they will still find some other person, or whether this search for your information will continue, here it is important to understand that it will come specialist,

about mr. brekt, realized that the person who he has 25 years of experience in the energy sector, and there are no questions here, he is one of the most experienced, most qualified energy workers in this country in general. it is very difficult for me to even imagine someone who could surpass oleksiy in terms of competence, i have worked with him for many years, shoulder to shoulder, i can say that absolutely for sure. hmm, if we imagine that you and i are in norway, how would the process go? a supervisory board should be established, consisting of seven members, four of whom are independent, now there are not three at all, but yes, four independent members of this supervisory board must be elected, after that the supervisory board conducts an open, public, transparent competition for the head of the company, not according to criteria. his personal loyalty to someone, not according to the criteria of whether he is there somewhere, you know, with whom he

drank vodka, or who he is friends with, or who is his relative, but according to the criteria of professionalism, correct values ​​and his, so to speak, or her ability to actually lead the company at this very moment, in which it is, and we are, let me remind you, on the eve of a difficult winter, and according to the results of this competition, a manager, a new company manager, will be chosen, whether it will be oleksiy or not, whether oleksiy will even apply for this competition or not, these are questions that can only be asked after how this new independent supervisory board will be created, and that's how i was elected as the leader in 2020, i was elected in a competition where 40 or 50 people participated, and that was a whole process that lasted several months , and i won this competition. and was appointed in august just in time in the 20th year, that is, four years ago, this is exactly

the kind of competition that should be held this time as well. you have had cases when the president called you on a mobile phone, no, not on a mobile phone, and the same phone must be official or not official, official i have a phone, but my communication with the president, as a rule, took place within the framework of some meetings, uh, either on-site, or in the office of the president, or within the framework of rate meetings or other formats, but not through a mobile phone and not through the special communications service phone, well, me in general, to be honest, i doubt that these special forces are being used so actively at the moment, after the president was mentioned, and he said words that, in principle, are correct, we need to move, build. to increase, to spread, as they say, to strengthen this energy security, the president said

that one to 1 g, gas maneuverable generation will be built, and then there was a statement, well , this is how the president gives such a plan, and instructions, and there are people , who are supposed to implement it, then there was a statement by the minister of energy and he said that we already have 400 mw, and you said in an interview that we have since that time. plus 60 megawatts, so we understand the difference, but realistically, how much is 460, and what needs to be done in order for this, this is the president's mandate for one gigawatt, you said that we lost half of what was last winter, well, at least one plus, why isn't it done, or what is needed to do it, well , first of all, how many new decentralized generation units have actually been built, right? generators near ticket offices, no ecoflo, which were bought by ukrainians, to which

the ministry of energy has nothing to do, namely, new generation that will work in the power system up to, i emphasize, up to 60 mw, not even 60, but up to 60 megawatts, and what is it just to belittle that 60m, i will explain, as i said, we lost 9 gw, i.e. 9,000 megawatts, of new generation today in... put into operation, connected to the power system, up to 60 megawatts put into operation, and about half, these are two small such power plants, let's say so, and one of them was connected, it is small, of low power, and one of them has been connected to the network for a year and a half, in general, that is, at such rates, if we continue in this spirit, then we will need... i don’t know a decade to replace the

generation destroyed by russian missiles that was lost this year, but we also lost generation in 22 and 23 years, well, that is, it is also gres, and it is coal-fired thermal power plants, it is thermal power plants that work on gas, mainly these are these kinds of plants, so accordingly, what should be done, we should stop trying to ... a centralized way by forces states to build decentralized generation, what is decentralized generation, it is when instead of one coal-fired power plant with a capacity of 100 mw, you have 100... small power plants with a capacity of 10, conditionally, i say now conditionally, this means decentralization, that is the same principle, used by our soldiers on the battlefield, dispersion, no one tries to gather 100 tanks, 200 armored fighting vehicles and 400 people in one place on one

site, however, the same is true in the energy sector, the energy sector is under fire from the enemy. under by the fire of the enemy, accordingly, it must be dispersed, in order to do this, it is necessary to attract private capital, not to try to build hundreds of small power plants with the help of state-owned companies, simply giving them a command, you need to build 100 megawatts, you need to build 300, you need to build 200, go and do it , and how you will do it, no one is interested, it is necessary to create the conditions for private capital to start mass... investing in new ukrainian generation, this is definitely a task facing the ministry of energy, as a ministry specialized in this sphere, and it is, strictly speaking, responsible for the score on the scoreboard. on december 31, 2024, we will see this score on the scoreboard, so far this

score is not very impressive, and what worries me the most is the eyes. there is a visible attempt to embellish the reality there from the rostrum of the parliament or in the public space, talking about hundreds of megawatts of new generation, there are no hundreds of megawatts of new decentralized generation, as far as i understand, they are trying to add to this figure: the restoration of broken thermal power plants from the soviet era, some generators, diesel generators, which are installed in the regions at boiler houses, at small pumping stations. but this is not generation, these are power sources after the outages began, they do not work on the power system, well, in the daily mode, so we are talking only about those power plants that will essentially replace those coal-fired and thermal power plants that were destroyed by the enemy, and unfortunately, we have several dozen such

microstations that have to work on different types of fuel, gas, etc. of course, this is such a traditional fuel for the modern one thermal generation, but i’m just going to ask right away, i heard a statement in the government, i think it was sly, but i’m afraid to lie, i just remembered that this year we plan to run on gas from our own production, i’m just leading to that , that if you build these dozens of power plants, then buy gas, again the price of this gas and all this will then be included in the price when a private investor will do it, he already... knows what the price of electricity is today on the market wholesale, not for the population, it has nothing to do with the tariffs for the population, it does relation to prices for business, today there is a price for business, there is a price for gas, accordingly today burning gas in a modern gas turbine, gas piston power plant, you can sell electricity from this gas with a profit, ugh,

and private business, by the way, is very actively ready to invest in these things, and we at ukrenergo... in recent months have been engaged in creating conditions for private business so that private business invests in new ukrainian generation. in particular, what we did with the energy regulator, with the ncp, the liberalization of prices on this wholesale market for business, and its long-term contracts, which ukrenergo concludes with investors for 5 years, buying services from these future power plants from the 25th. for the 30th year. in this way, the investor clearly understands how to pay off his project. it has a firm contract with a large state-owned company with power system operators. and he can bring this contract to the bank, take a loan, invest, get a profit on his investment, pay off the loan and get the corresponding profit. what kind of contracts

are currently concluded for 600 mw. ugh. by due to the results of the two au, i will not ask about jobs. one year is given, this is a realistic term, one year for the deployment of new systems, electricity production, as well as energy storage systems, these are battery systems, the so-called battery storage, which are also very necessary for the energy system for balancing, here are only two ukrenergo auctions for these services gave 600 mw to those who want to build, which will start building right now, this is a private business, but in the sector we still see much more modest results, and i think that you still have to bet on private business, because you know how much to build. a long time ago, back in the 23rd year, at the beginning, we talked about the need to build decentralized generation, by the way, there was a lot of talk about this in the press, but then

a different vision of energy development was brought to the london conference on recovery, some kind of gigantomania , where it was necessary to build, invest 400 billion euros, build 300 gw of new capacity, well, western investors looked at it, they said, sorry, these plans are unrealistic, you say about some space. fantasies, we, business people, and we invest money in real projects, not in someone's dreams, there are dreams, and so on, and we lost time, in any case , now we are finalizing, as they say, we will get as close as possible to people who either want to warm themselves or get cold this winter, we have to prepare here, i understand that in any case we are going through this winter, plus or minus some tens or hundreds of megawatts will be added to what is for. well, it’s so easy

to prepare, so what to buy at home, you can buy a large diesel generator at the sbb, i believe that if there is no sharp increase in the intensity of russian shelling, that is, we cannot say that they will not be there at all, but it is important that there will be no sharp increase in intensity, that they will not be. three or five times larger and more frequent, and we will have such a situation that in the warm periods of winter it is conventionally +2, there, well, up to minus 5, you said somewhere like that, zero -1, there will be either minimal outages, or there will be none absolutely, in the cold periods of winter -5 -7, especially -10-15, consumption will increase so much that it will not be physically possible to collect enough generation to cover it, huh. and then there may be outages, what scale they will be, well , this is guesswork on coffee grounds, but we can say that the deficit may be similar to

some kind of summer deficit, ugh, that is, it is not july, but rather august or it depends a lot, again, how many power plants will be restored, what will be the import of electricity, because in july we also did not use imports, unfortunately, at full capacity, we did not import all that we could. to import, because of the price, but that's also a question for the leaders of the industry, who in a way to ensure the complete filling of imports in winter, and i want to say, by the way, that i would like to remind you that the poles, the polish prime minister, in particular, proposed to attract polish power plants to work in ukraine in winter, and it seems to me that this project should be dealt with objectively in order for... we received several hundred megawatts from the use of the imported power that ukrenergo provides there, but which unfortunately

is not used, less than a minute, i cannot help but ask this question, do you already have an understanding of what you will be engaged further in in life, i have approximately the following, that is, it is public service, private business, i don’t know, write a book, go traveling there, support the armed forces of ukraine, as you like, i can definitely say that i will be in ukraine, supporting of the armed forces, we dealt with them very objectively at ukrenergo and we supported them by more than 350 million there in the last one and a half years, and of course, due to my much more modest capabilities, i will also do this, but i would like to work in one or more of the following spheres, this is engagement investments, this is european integration, because in fact, in the 22nd year... we brought ukrenergo into the electric energy eu, and i believe that this experience can be replicated throughout the country, that is the transformation of our energy system, that is

the development of this new decentralized generation, it will essentially mean a new ukrainian energy system, cheaper, cleaner, er, more resistant to russian attacks, in what format i will realize myself in these three... directions, time will tell, i think, the next weeks-months, but i sure would like to to work in exactly these directions and to date i don't see a big request for this from the public sector so far, so i will stay out of it for now, thank you very much, many questions, maybe not the last conversation, because there is actually a lot to talk about , it is very interesting, important... in principle to explain, clarify, point out the problems and, most importantly, the ways of their overcoming and solving them, volodymyr kodrytskyi was with us, he is the ex-head

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