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the kremlin's nuclear threats seriously, let's try to answer this question in the format of a blitz survey, marine? i don't take them seriously, let's just say, if they could, they would have already horrified somewhere? thank you, bohdan, well, i agree and i think that, considering that for putin , the main task before him is simply to stay alive, that is, to stay in power, he is wonderful. that the use of nuclear weapons will greatly hasten his physical death, i would say so. i totally agree with you and i think these are all nuclear scarecrows, in principle, they are designed more for the western audience, not even for western politicians and for the domestic audience, but definitely not for the ukrainian audience, because it seems that after 10 years of war and 2.5 years of the great invasion of russia into ukraine, they are already here in... tested almost all weapons,

well, except for nuclear ones, so it seems to me that our audience also takes it all not seriously, well, at least in the first part of our program, the results were 37% to 63, that is, a third of the tv viewers took nuclear weapons seriously threats from the kremlin, 2/3 no, well, but less than that, on september 26 in washington, the president will... present a plan for the victory of ukraine, and this plan for the victory of ukraine is already fully prepared, we have seen this information, this information support, that there is 90% , then 100% that there is this plan for victory, let's listen to what zelensky says as a result, and today we can already say that he is already fully prepared. our

victory plan, all the points, all the key points, the necessary attachments with the details of the plan are defined, everything is worked out, the most important thing is now - the determination to implement, there is and cannot be any alternative to peace, no freezing of the war or any other manipulations that will simply transfer russian aggression to another stage. bohdan, is it enough... the ukrainian authorities communicated about the victory plan, because the western audience learned about this plan from various international publications, which were fed parts of this victory plan, in the ukrainian press there were only statements of president zelensky, but nothing more? well, you know, to be honest, i would first of all inquire not even in the opinion of the western audience, but in general the ukrainian one, because i would like to ask all of us, and you? we know something about this

victory plan, it is a shame to say, we have such a body called the verkhovna rada, i understand, of course, that everyone has already forgotten that this is a parliament, and we have a type of parliamentary-presidential republic, among the deputies of this of the so -called parliament, does anyone know about this victory plan, what is written in it and so on? that is, look, volodymyr zelenskyi, i'll be honest, it pisses me off that this person for some reason, he believes that if he became the president, it gives him the right to decide something without asking anyone, in such serious matters, unfortunately, we see, i think, that there is no plan for victory, there is, let's say, a plan of some little things that volodymyr oleksandro . most likely , he will not get it 100%, after which he will start negotiating with shouts that, as you can see, the damned west is pouring, because, excuse me, when i saw that reuters reported yesterday, for example, that it turns out that ukraine has already agreed to supplies of azerbaijan gas from our

territory since the beginning of the 25th year, we understand that this is not about azerbaijani physical gas, but about russian, to put it mildly, when i saw how the ukrainian authorities signed some... agreements, for example, on the supply of under-sanctioned of russian oil through ukrainian territory for the hungarians, it’s just that the hungarians will now formally purchase it at the border with belarus, where the southern branch of the druzhba oil pipeline enters our territory, and you think so, where is the victory plan, what does it consist of, it has already begun the plan of victory, or when the whole as a politician, everyone already knows that these negotiations on behalf of zelenskyi with the russians are being conducted by timur mindich, an unknown character, er, former business partner of kolomoiskyi, a person who, er... how to say, was at one time a chain between the 95th quarter and kolomoiskyi , and now i understand, he is already finally working with volodymyr oleksandrovich, you see, that’s why i’m just curious, and the most important thing is not even that, but what the hell could be the victory plan there, what new can we hear about this victory plan, give nuclear to us a bomb, we will scurry around moscow or something, i just

don’t understand what’s new, give us atacoms, or there is a storm shelter to hit russian airfields, well, yes, i understand, but to think that this is a plan for victory, well, somehow it would be a little bit for me it's quite strange to demand... that the sanctions be more, well, that is, look at what i'm getting at, i don't expect anything new for the simple reason that nothing new will happen almost soon, like three years of war, it's difficult, actually unrealistic, so i'll say frankly, everything volodymyr zelenskyi does, unfortunately, is about to seem rather than to be, and i really don't like the trends that are going on around all these movements right now, so i 'll be honest, i'm not just skeptical, i'm downright bad about what it's all about. and what will happen next, because excuse me, the story with russian gas, which is right in front of our eyes, is now developing so brazenly that even prime minister shmyhal says that i have no relationship with the ministry and the negotiation, who then has, please tell me who is what office of the president, so you know, it is very interesting

to go to america and tell them that we will bring a plan for victory, prepare 100%, and we will win tomorrow, and with the other hand, it would be fine to negotiate about the prisoners, but to build again... the same troubles , on which ukraine has burned down so many times in its history, well, i don't know what it can be compared to, so sorry, i don't know what the victory plan is, but i know that if andryusha irmak is there, then we need very be very careful in such plans, that's all, i think that in this situation it is probably necessary to say that the victory plan without the participants of ukraine's war against russia, no, it is simply impossible to... win this victory, and even more so when the people who are part of the great people's war of ukraine against russia are not initiated into this victory plan, well , many questions arise, and perhaps the main question

is how this victory plan will be implemented without the ukrainians, that is, if they are not told anything, and zelensky says that the most important thing is for the united states of america to do. your work, well, a question, wait, well the united states of america will do this work, but the united states of america obviously does not say that ukraine should defeat russia, but they say that ukraine should not lose, the question is, stop, and how ukraine can win and will it be clear to joseph biden, marino, well, let's start with the fact that it's not the american military, but rather the... military, those people who were mobilized into the alaf armed forces of ukraine, will hold that giant front line that is currently we have with russian federation, this is one time, secondly, you know, i am always surprised by the fantastic speed with which zelenskyi and his managers write all these

peaceful plans for victory, we remember that just last week antony blinken, david lemia, the leader, came to kyiv. .. the british foreign ministry, and the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin. and from what we read in the western press, they really asked zelensky if he had any realistic plan for victory, because we... well, we understand that this previous peace formula, where zelensky promised barbecues already in the christmas tree, i guess , she already is unrealistic and irrelevant. and now let's count: in just one week, zelensky tells us in the evening segments how he wrote a new victory plan with attachments and information, and literally the day before yesterday he said that our plan is ready for 90. and now for 100, i.e. excuse me, i write some script or article more carefully, so that it

looks conscious and interesting, than zelenskyi and his team write peace plans for ukraine, and you know, indeed, pieces of these began to appear in the western press peace plans, and here, for example, i understand that the president's office was very agitated and outraged by yuliyanke's article in... the build , they traditionally deny that the build is such a tabloid publication, it's a non-fiction publication, you don't have to believe it , these are all fakes, these are all authors who write such things, this is pure russian ipso, but well, let's remind ourselves that the previous plans for a full-scale invasion of the russian federation were just merged into the publication of bilt, so i will not be surprised if a part of it promises that we will freeze the front line here, combatants actions on... separate areas of the front, this is part of the type of peace plan that

is being actively discussed now, but again, as a representative of ukrainian society, an active representative, i would very much like to hear what we include in the phrase cessation hostilities on separate areas of the front, what does this mean, we are demining there, we are following the scenario of 2020-2021, well , everyone remembers how we demined gold, like volodymyr... zelenskyi personally went to the ukrainian military, which stood there convinced that he is no longer a fool, that he knows better that he is the supreme commander, as he addressed, by the way, to our civilian residents who lived in that area, that there is nothing to worry about, it will be cool, on the contrary, that we then everything was demined, people will not die, and now you look back at zelenskyi's old promises to demine everything, to solve it diplomatically with russia, to draw up your preliminary peace plan. and we understand what it turned into, that's why we wanted to talk about all these peaceful things plans, and if zelensky himself is afraid, then

look, he has new promising communication advisers there, he appointed such an adviser there, who in 2010 advised, by the way, to ukrainians, to the ukrainian authorities, why it is necessary to disband the armed forces of ukraine, that is obviously why the councilor should not buy alcohol in goodwines, by the way, our colleagues often see him there, but go out and tell a little bit, but what kind of peace plan did bankova prepare for us, so that society would prepare and so that society would understand, and what what awaits us next is this commander-in-chief, who wants, let's say, to present the preservation of a certain territory under the control of ukraine as a comprehensive victory, a fantastic victory, and i wonder how he will justify the fact that we have a huge... part of the territories and people are under occupation, i am already silent about the losses we

received after the full-scale invasion, this is not yet, as i understand it, in the victory plan, but zelenskyi was asked about what will happen if this victory plan is not accepted in washington and do you have plan b after this plan a, he said that ukraine lives in plan b, never had a plan a for winning the war. from russia, let's hear what he said, the journalist asked one question and said, what will happen if president biden does not support your plan, do you have a plan b, i answered frankly absolutely, and we are already in plan b, we are in it we live and fight, we never had a, because the plan was to prevent a full-scale invasion, the plan a was to strengthen ukraine with weapons and... ah, to preemptively sanction the russian the federation that she feared, even the thought of

a full-scale invasion. bohdan, well, zelenskyi says that ukraine never had a plan a, although there were plans to protect the country from a full-scale invasion, and they were not formed since the beginning of the great war, and obviously these plans were. or if this plan did not exist, probably, well, the russians would have seized the ukrainian state much faster, perhaps zelensky did not have plan a, but the military had plan a. or how to perceive zelensky's statement that we are already living in plan b, and they say that plan a is this what our allies did not fulfill, i understand, you know, i may not be very professional from a journalistic point of view, but i listen less and less to what volodymyr zelensky says, because i have less and less, well, more and more accurate impressions, that he says

completely different things that contradict each other, and you know, it's not even... the story that, for example, there is some kind of system, he says one thing for some, and another for others, i won't speculate on the topics there adequacy of this person or inadequacy, but to be honest, well, think about it during the war blurt out what type, you don't have a plan a, a plan b, well, you understand, i'm saying, in principle, this person never had any plans, he is a person of the moment, he is a person of hype, he is a person of some instantaneous decisions, instantaneous there are any- then the hype people there are for... ligonov, he has basically ruled like this for all five years, and they, by the way, once learned even there that we don't have any strategy, more than a month ahead, i think something that now it's the same story, although now they already have a certain plan, i think i already said what it is is, he declared a lot there, pay attention this week, he said there that we plan to go there in october-december to a peaceful peace summit, that's all, and

he has to finish everything, and he said, if the west will do everything in these three months, so there will be peace, friendship, chewing gum, that is , they certainly have some... coils, as for whether he had a plan, well, i have already thought about this many times, my point of view is that this man until the last seconds before the beginning of a large-scale invasion really did not believe that he would be this invasion, i am sure that there was a man named irmak who assured him of this, i don't know if it's because he himself is a russian agent of influence, or because he just played a little bit with his larochnik games and didn't understand that he wasn't breeding larochniks anyhow, and bandits, and bandits can... and strike first, it’s about the russians, about the chekist bandit, i don’t know, here let the investigation be sorted out later, i hope when these characters cease to be in power, well, but zelensky’s behavior, i repeat, really shows that this person did not believe in what would happen war, he did not give the opportunity to properly prepare for it until the last second, i will simply remind you that in the book of the once beloved journalist of zelensky, simon shuster,

it is written in black and white, and not only there, it was written in many places that the country's defense plans, which developed, including valery. until the last second, zelensky was not shown and was not shown even to the americans, because they were afraid that the americans, well, due to the fact that they are still more systematic people, they would show him like this to the supreme commander-in-chief, and if he show the supreme commander, he will completely stop everything, you see, that's all, that's why i have a clear impression that this person never had any plan, he constantly acts with a planning horizon of a couple of two or three weeks there, here the same sacramentals, that's why when this person starts talking about some plans, it becomes very, very scary to me, because... not at the intellectual level, but most importantly even at the level of this person in terms of the possibility of delegating some powers to anyone, these people are just pathologically incapable, no on normal system management, no to a managerial approach, any, no, in principle, to some kind of strategizing, that’s a shock, you know, because do they have any plans, i think that they don’t have everything in principle, well, let’s wink here, let’s do it there, we have already

decided that there, we will sleep normally, there , well, you understand, there, we will work out a couple of vydosiks normally... well, i’m serious , they think so, that’s why i say when zelenskyy says that he has plan, well, if no jokes about that slang sound these words, then i will repeat myself, it scares me very much, because it means that either someone has already developed this plan for him and assured him that it will be better this way, or he is lying, well, somehow, marino, these are the plans , b, c, these are all topics that sound and... obviously, in this situation, zelensky really could not have known that there was a plan, and there were other plans in the armed forces of ukraine and not only in the armed forces of ukraine, that people were preparing for war, and bohdan correctly says that zelensky probably did not believe that there would be a war, because i remember how four hours before the start of the great war, at

one o'clock in the morning, zelensky spoke and addressed the russians in russian and said that... we hope that we, you will not be there, we are brotherly peoples, that after all, this madness is not will be, i think that zelensky, as a person who was brought up in russian show business, because the quarter grew up from russian show business after all, that he did not even fully realize that russia could leave, and did not believe, that russia can go to war, that those people who applauded him there in udmurtia buryatia and in various regions of ukraine, that they will come to kill ukrainians, what can you say about these abvgeyka, plans that zelenskyy is talking about? you rightly mentioned these statements by zelenskyi about... russians, i will remind you that on february 19 he had a speech in munich at the security conference, you can quote every munich

security conference with the participation of zelenskyi, because at one, by the way, in in the 20th year , he said that i don't have time to think strategically, when a journalist asked if i did do you have any strategies regarding the fact that the russian federation is preparing attacks there as early as 2020. he was asked, directly a few days before the full-scale invasion , he told in munich that the russians are also people and i do not believe that they will go to war against us. i am sure that zelensky hoped until the last that if russians laugh at his tv series "matchmakers". if the russians ever went there to watch the movie "love in the big city" with the participation of volodymyr zelenskyi, they will refuse to conquer ukraine, but in fact, it's not... that's how you can watch the series matchmaker on a tablet, and with the other hand kill and torture ukrainian women who fell into the occupation. unfortunately, as time shows,

zelensky's firmware has not changed, and although in 2022 he tried to pull on cherchel's skin, his insides have now come out, which greatly strengthens his close communication with andriy yermak, and when he ... declares that the country did not have a plan, and we live in plan b, zelensky completely distorts reality, distorts reality, screws up what is already known from western intelligence, all these articles from the foreign press, there were quite thorough investigations into who was preparing for war, and we must give credit to the two ukrainian commanders-in-chief, zulzhny and syrian, and i can also say that kyrylo budanov too. .. was much better than volodymyr zelenskyi, but, you know, our commander-in-chief constantly measures the ratings

of top-level ukrainian military personnel, and therefore he does not listen to them. if you could notice, they are currently trying to find the culprit, who didn't win this plan a and plan b, and because of whom, by the way, our western allies do not provide enough weapons, here maryana bezugla wrote: already a post about the fact that she will now talk in english about , what kind of drunks and alcoholics we have in the ukrainian army, there is a very interesting quote in that post that it is precisely because we have such a bad military command that the west does not provide us with the necessary weapons, this is an absolute lie and a shift in emphasis , because i read a lot of foreign press, moreover, someone who does not read it there, and it is always there... such a red thread is that distrust of the ukrainian government, distrust of banks, distrust of these powerful managers,

unwillingness of these managers to make reforms that would at least seriously reduce ukrainian corruption , precisely in the field of security and defense, precisely contributes to the fact that very often our western allies do not trust zelensky and somehow do not... or pass on their own developments, but we see that there is an effort to find the culprit and the culprit lies with volodymyr zelenskyi is always alone, it is the armed forces of ukraine. well, of course, you already mentioned budanov, now there are rumors that they want to remove bohdanov as the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, and this is connected with the personnel changes that were in the very heart of budanov's two deputies . dismissed without agreement, as if without agreement , the general and budanov want to be transferred somewhere to another position, well, there are such rumors, i don't

know how true they are, let's see how they will develop events, but for now friends, i remind you that we are working live and i remind you that we are conducting a survey on the air of the provodov, we are asking you about this, do you take the kremlin's nuclear threats seriously, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. yes or no, write your own opinion under this video and in the comments. if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800-211-381, if yes, no, 0800 211382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will tally up the results of this vote . maryna danilyuk yarmalayeva and bohdan butkevich are on our air today, two wonderful journalists who are the authors and... we of two youtube channels censornet and showbysic, if you are not yet subscribed to these youtube channels, please subscribe, join their

projects , and of course. we use this opportunity to call on our entire audience to also join show-bisiks and censornet. another topic, colleagues, is that the national security council has restricted the use of telegram messenger in state bodies and the armed forces. today it became known that the national coordination center cyber ​​security is a structural division of the national security council, which banned the installation and use of telegram on official devices of agency employees. state authorities, military personnel, employees of the security and defense sector, as well as companies operating critical infrastructure. to be honest, i don't quite understand how the nsdc is going to administer this entire story with applications, with the telegram application and with this platform, wouldn't it be easier to follow the path that the nsdc once followed with

vkontakte classmates. when just these two networks were banned there for 5 years in ukraine, then this ban was extended, and here are some half-measures, as if telegram is a platform controlled by the russians, but we are forbidden for civil servants to install in the phones of military personnel, and whether it will work at all in the conditions of e- of this administrative chaos, bogdan, look, on the right... a person who at one time took a very active part, was also in the committee for the preparation of banning vkontakte classmates, of course i completely agree with you that a simple telegram should be just like that to do it yourself, as they did with vkontakte, it is clear that even now those who want to use vkontakte simply install vpn on their phones and use it, it is not a problem, we just understand very well that any such blocking, they actually for directed not against those who consciously do something, but against the conditional two-thirds of people there, who are lazy and sorry, they will not

do anything extra there, it is not opened, well , fix with it, something else will be opened, which concerns whether will work, see, well, first of all, we have to understand that telegram is a social network that was brought here by zelenskyi's government to a great extent, it was these people who brought the russian social network and the fashion for it here to ukraine, that is, if before that it was like this, you know, the underground messenger that we used for those who needed it, relatively speaking, yes, that’s exactly the kind of men... this is of course a political factor, in fact , zelenskyi and his team did it, and they usually rule there, it’s obvious, accordingly, they don’t want to refuse from this social networks, because where else can you in your shitty cesspools, pretending that it's not you , pour dirt and slander and manipulate about anyone and not bear any responsibility for it, well, i really like it very

much. but it is disappointing that, for example, according to the latest polls conducted by internyuws, 2/3 of ukrainians still use telegram, it is in the first place for receiving information, and of course the fact that half of the people are against having any at all regulation there, i understand that the popularity of telegram in many respects also caused, of course, by the absolutely bastard politics carried out by american social networks, for example, such and such facebook or youtube, in which you simply, for example, cannot cover a war, that is, any... with a real war, well, you immediately have a full chance to get blocking and all, and you won't prove anything to anyone, and telegram, of course, got away with the fact that it is so uncensored of you, well, the russians have always been very good at fighting against democracy with the methods of democracy itself, but now what about whether this story will work, look, it's thanks to god that finally this decision has been made at least somehow, it's obvious, but again it's very half-hearted, why? because we are talking about a work phone, well

let's be honest, friends, most people... uh, they don't have work phones, they have the same phone that they have, it's also a work phone, conventionally speaking, it's once, - secondly, er, you understand very well that again , what does it mean, like, you can’t install it, and they say, and this is my personal phone and that’s all, and go to hell, as volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi says, then the third point, and let's say this, very important, as far as i know, it has been forbidden to circle any official correspondence in a telegram for a very long time in all adequate units in the army. and all those who have even a little bit of smut in their heads, who do not want to get a missile on their head, have not been negotiating there for a long time, that is, the military have been communicating for a long time either on whatsapp or mostly on the signal, and i think everyone knows this very well, but but as for civil servants, well, look - a very important decision that really needs to be made is the deanonymization of the telegram, so that there could not be any anonymous telegrams, so that it could be clearly understood who is leading them, but this decision is obviously against...