for whom it is no secret that for many years not enough attention has been paid, and perhaps even too little attention has been paid to technological industries, including industries related to the production of rap means, therefore today in general there is a need, and there is an acute demand and, accordingly, on manufacturers of certain components, and on professional engineers and on professional specialists of this field and on access. to certain components and in general a certain expertise in the market, but over the last year there has been active work in these directions and over the last year we can to observe a significant result, as an example of this, is the number of manufacturers that we are currently noting, and the interest in this segment that is currently there, both from public bodies and institutions, and from the private sector, and from the armed forces forces mr. oleg, is there such a... trend that would concern

starting to manufacture key components for reb vehicles there, taking into account our own capabilities, i mean the significant dependence of our manufacturers on chinese components, we are already on components for fpv drones to drones got a little burnt, isn't there such a risk with the same generators that are used in certain reb samples in this direction, is it possible to bet on your own? component elements? well, we, constantly communicating and working with manufacturers, note that as the market develops, expertise accumulates, manufacturers begin to move away from the purchase of certain components and move to their own development, so in general , today we see that the market, starting from this year, it began to actively focus and move to the localization of those various... components to the organization

of its own production, therefore, in general, we note a fairly stable tendency to deepen the expertise to deepen the production of its own components, including in the field of radio-electronic warfare. you really communicate with the military and with the developers, i wanted to hear from you, in your opinion, in which direction, which trends will be noticeable in tsarina reb, in particular during this year, with certain differences from what we have now, well, as of today , we can note that the dynamics of changing frequency ranges on the battlefield has accelerated very much, we talked about this last time with you, but as of now, these dynamics have accelerated even more and, accordingly, there is a very strong change as above and down the range, which forces manufacturers to look for new approaches, new solutions and make their tools more flexible, so in general we will see the emergence of more flexible... tools,

the emergence of more complex tools that will combine various types of components and components, including detection components, that will allow these tools to be more effective at the ranges used by the enemy. there are examples when reb's small-sized means are placed either on unmanned platforms, air, or on ground platforms, is this... a trend, or is there a need for reb's means to push them deep into enemy territory as much as possible? well, as we said, this is a war of technologies, this is a war of robots and unmanned systems, therefore , of course, today there are actively appearing rep tools that are installed on those or other unmanned systems, they are also...

developing and evolving, to say that it will be exactly as we see it now, probably for today, no one will be able to say, but at the same time, there is an active cooperation of manufacturers, and this exactly what we are actively working with, for the sake of what is also the main priority of bryvan - this is precisely the cooperation of manufacturers of various industries, and active work is also being done in this direction, i think that in the near future we will see more and more such developments , they will be different. directions, each of them will find their own way, but they will be oriented to protect our soldiers, to reduce the presence of soldiers in the most hot spots and create more protection and save more servicemen. mr. olezh, thank you very much for the inclusion, for what your team is doing to strengthen our defense capability, i will remind our viewers that it was oleg donets, head of the radio electronic department. combat

defense cluster brain one, we hope that their developments that help ours military, will really be scaled in order to really strengthen the potential of our armed forces and defense forces. these were the main military results of this day, then the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zima, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you very much, sergey zgurts, here the minister of defense rusym omerov, without warning general bohdanov, fired two of his deputies, they are generally talking about purges in the main intelligence office, well, obviously these are the topics of our next broadcasts, we will see what will happen there, now we.. . we will donate to needs of the armed forces of ukraine, and then we will talk with our guests. the espresso tv channel and the vesna charity fund continue fundraising for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade, as well as for the 110th and 47th mechanized brigades

of the armed forces of ukraine. the defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and our future. it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended avdiivskyi. the direction of that complex spring of the 24th, you can see all the details on the screen, let's go we will collect and close this collection, our goal is 3.5 million hryvnias, and today i will ask my colleagues somewhere before the end of the broadcast to say how much we have already, how much you have already been able to collect, and i want to say thank you once again for each and every contribution, which you are doing to protect the state, to preserve the lives of our soldiers, well, today we will start by talking about... sumy region, lyubov sitak, kordon media journalist. mrs. lyubov, i congratulate you. congratulations. come on , of course, the main topic we would like to discuss is the russian attack on geriatrics boarding house in sumy. well, let's start with this, because in fact this is a terrible

crime, a terrorist act of the enemy, they hit children, schools, kindergartens, civilians, residential buildings, now they hit the geriatric, they hit the defenseless, this is very cynical, but we don’t really expect anything else from russia, please tell us what is currently known about the consequences of the enemy attack on this boarding house, please, yesterday the russians hit a geriatric boarding house with a guided aerial bomb, what is known about that , that there were almost 300 people there, there are 200 boarders and about 60 staff, one woman died, she was 78 years old, she received minor injuries, but her heart failed and she died in the ambulance before reaching the hospital, also 14 other people were injured , these are 13

directly elderly people, wards of the boarding house, and one person who passed by this building, and she later sought... for medical help, the situation was extremely difficult yesterday, most of the people, they have limited mobility, cannot move and get out on their own from the premises therefore, the rescuers and other special services carried them out on stretchers, took some by the arms and took them out directly to the street in front of this building, and they lay in the sky. they were given medical care there, and were then evacuated to buses to take them to safer places. currently, they have already been transported around the region, as well as to other medical institutions in sumy. i know that many people who do not

have guardianship and need such guardianship from the state, from social services, were actually abandoned to their own devices, were when the enemy captured the territory of a part of the territory. countries and they were moved to other, well, similar geriatric boarding houses, do you know whether among the patients of this boarding house, his, who lived there, there were people, perhaps internally displaced persons, because of course, well, plus it is even more difficult for them, despite the fact that that actually, not just to all those who found themselves in this situation, please, but in this geriatric boarding house , indeed. there were many internally displaced persons who had left the border and had nowhere to go, and they were cared for here, there were such patients who have been there for years, for example, six years, well, there were also those who have relatives, here

we saw such people who could not, well, could not find in the place of their grandmother, so the patients were different, as well as internally displaced persons, yes and city dwellers. sumy and also the abandoned ones, who no longer have anyone to take care of them, but today the lesson continued to hit the sumy region again, please tell me the situation as of this evening? following the consequences of enemy attacks on 10 communities of sumy oblast, the russians launched their own terrorist attacks. please. yes, the russians inflict continue to attack our border. today, more than 50 hectares of forest are on fire, fires are currently burning in sumy oblast. there are also strikes on civilian streets. but fortunately there are no victims today, but there are currently an extremely large number of fires in sumy oblast,

the rescuers are working quickly and trying to eliminate them quickly, well, these fires, as far as i understand, are the result of enemy attacks, yes, yes, that's right, well, today the people of kyiv woke up too , so neighboring houses in many areas could not be seen, due to such a rather powerful smoke, which formed, the smoke that came from the area, again the consequences of the fall. enemy drones, and there are a lot of lice around kyiv, especially from the north, well, today they felt, plus, that people are still smoking weed, but of course people smoking weed cannot cause such consequences, as it happens, i would also like to ask about the situation on the border communities, are there communities left there that are directly next to the battle line, or where the enemy is constantly hitting, or can strike, or are there people who should be evacuated, but do not... want to evacuate and remain actually in the zone of mortal danger? yes, of course, there are still such

communities, maybe you know the situation with glukhov, more than 30,000 people need to be evacuated there, but this process of organized evacuation is still going on, meanwhile people are leaving themselves, more than 300 people have left so far, but how will others leave thousands of people, well , so far it is unknown, we are following this... process, he is also constantly under enemy fire, currently yampil in the shostan district, the russians are constantly dropping cabs there, and more than a dozen people, in the last two wounded people in the last two weeks, there are also many dead there, well, there we read repeatedly about the fact that the enemy attacked glukhov, but you know, the situation here is such that there is a need for evacuation, but from... there are many videos, i can't say how relevant these videos are, well, they were actually written

by people who live there in glukhiv, who were against their evacuation, from what you can say, how difficult the situation is, that such a large number of people really need the shortest to derive the terms from there, and again this is an eternal question, and is there a place to transport these people from glukhov, well, in sumy oblast, or maybe in other regions where they are ready to receive them, because the concrete is so... the story that people will voice, which quite often there is nothing to interrupt, is where we will go to the hostel , where even then there may be no water and no light, and there will be no conditions, and there will be no work, and so we at least sit in our homes, so the situation is difficult precisely because people have nowhere to go, so there are dormitories for idps, but there are not very many of them specifically in sums, there are also in okhtyrka, but for such a number, of course, that we don't have a place now. specifically, the residents of glukhovo, they are against evacuation, there are already cases of protest, they

are asking to be protected, not evacuated, that is why the head of the community herself reported that she also does not support this evacuation process, earlier for a comment by kordon media, so will they really be whether these 30,000 are evacuated or not, we will see, but the population is against it, for the most part. thank you very much for participating, thank you for your comments, lyubov sitak, a journalist from kordon media, was in touch with us, thank you you and take care of yourself, and this is really a topic, you know, living outside the borders of the region, especially outside the borders of the community, ukrainians do not really understand globally now, where and what is happening, we see evacuation in the middle of nowhere, if you follow certain telegram channels now, tiktok , quite often people post some videos on facebook. we are against it, they are against it, but everyone understands that here, here, the situation is not easy, because on

the one hand, it is a border town, which the enemy is attacking, and any arrival, you do not have time to go down to the shelter, or somehow to protect yourself, this is just a game with death, you will survive or not, on the other hand, a person understands that there is an option to survive, there are no russian troops anywhere near there, and then you think, and i will go to a completely different region, it is unknown ... i will live, i have a family, and where will i work, how will i eat, and many such questions, and here you know, when you read some stories, let 's say, like now, i will not be there named officials... some there is a public figure who was suspected of illegally enriching himself by tens of millions, some penthouses, houses, apartments, and there is no reason, the declaration is normal, they say, everything is fine, you understand what kind of money goes somewhere, as they say, and you understand why these people are in trouble, because there are a lot of such people who put into their own pockets, not necessarily

public money, but there must be honesty, justice, today is a time when... it is worth sharing, today is a time when you should not steal, today is a time when you have to give to the needy, this, you know, is the justice of war, in war the side that corrects its mistakes, the first one adapts better and acts fairly, because when you lie, when you steal on blood, when you do evil, well, you are not the one to be there, we will win, of course, ukraine will win, but... manage this the way, you make it bloodier, you make people's grief greater, where it can be simplified, you complicated it, it shouldn't be like this, it shouldn't be like this, or society together, well, either say that it's you there, and we are here, we somewhere in the sky, as vakarchuk sang, yes, now we have one more very, not one more very important, it is important in general the topic we decided to discuss is

such that it is not discussed in the news every day, but it is important, and... we will have oleksandr sopov, an honored worker of industry , with us for a second of ukraine, and mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, yes, but we will not talk about industry, we will talk about the awarding, mainly, of course, of the star of the hero of ukraine and the bell of the hero of ukraine, and we decided to talk about it as an informational the reason was that the petition for assignment. the title of hero of ukraine, ukraine, former people's deputy of ukraine, professor, well-known figure who was killed in lviv, iryna farion, received the necessary number of votes, and this petition is now under consideration in the ministry of education and science of ukraine, well, since mrs. iryna was late a professor, teacher, scientist, then, of course,

the ministry of education should consider whether she was also a politician all her life in principle. and even when outside of politics there was, and we will start with this, an understanding of this, there is a petition, and then we will talk about who it would be worthwhile to deprive the heroes of ukraine of these titles, how are petitions collected, how are submissions from the military considered, when their families hear these petitions, well, somehow they organize, but there is a petition that has gathered the necessary number of votes there, 25,000 people, if i am not mistaken, and it comes to the cabinet of ministers, how does this procedure take place? and this question is for me, for me? yes, yes, yes, please, well, first of all, first of all, there is a petition, there is no petition, it does not matter, it is not for awarding the title of hero of ukraine, it is, first of all, a decree number 138, this is february 2003, and

is clearly spelled out in this decree. so what needs to be done in order to be awarded with anything, including a title higher than the title in ukraine, a hero of ukraine, and there is nothing said, no petitions, and petitions really do not have any meaning, here is the answer to that, what is a petition, they have no meaning, the labor team should consider chiryne's candidacy. farion or the ancients or any other person, well, a citizen of ukraine, this title of hero of ukraine is only for citizens of ukraine, and then there is a prescribed procedure where documents need to be submitted. that's all. well, if it so happened that there was no submission, perhaps this

petition had to collect votes, and it is submitted for consideration to the government, and to the. well, because according to ms. iryna’s profession, she held a position, she was a professor at the lviv polytechnic, and how should the government submit this submission with its conclusions to the president, because the president assigns the title of hero of ukraine, and then there should be conclusions, we considered, we believe, that her activity there so-and-so deserves to be, to be assigned with... or not, again, i'm not saying, i'm not assigning this title, i don't have such authority, but simply, to understand whether they return the petition and say, sorry, we have grounds to pass it on to the president. no, yes, i want to repeat again, the petition is, well, first of all, it, it is a petition to the president, and

it, well, it is good, maybe the petition can be on any issue, we got 25 thousand votes, to things, 25,000 votes just like that it is very, very, very, very difficult, and in these petitions regarding the title of hero of ukraine, most likely they are busy with this. these are professionals in this business, companies, it’s just like that, relatives, i very much doubt that they could organize themselves, well, 25 thousand votes, i tried a couple of times, i tried to do it, it’s practically impossible, i don’t mean the title of hero of ukraine, and i want to say once again, there is a procedure, and no matter what, well... well, how can i tell you, please tell me , iryna farion is, well, a well-known person, of course, but to

date, there are about 3,000 such petitions in the administrator's office, in the president's office, and the procedure that exists, obliges or does not oblige them to be considered, well completely. there is a procedure that should be, they know, they know well, whether farion or da vinci, those people who are next to him every day, well, agree that the fact that it is so, others know much worse, somewhere the press, radio, television , be anything, only that person, who is next to the hero every day, knows for sure... that he is a hero, well, to say the least, this is mine opinion, confidence, not opinion, confidence, and eh, but with regard to awards, the hero of ukraine is

the highest, highest award in the state, and to give it, well, for discussion, these are, believe me, these are delicate questions, submission to any what an award, it's not... not so easy, and to give it to the general public, i'm not sure it 's necessary, we just started with this, with this story, with this case, because well, a famous person, again , unfortunately, died, iryna farion, but here the question is much broader, we are a procedure, you mentioned it, maybe there make some clarifications, now the ministry will consider, again, what the decision will be, it already depends on those people who have it. adopt from the president, who can sign or not sign, that is, either grant or not grant. we will finish with the story with iryna farion, now we move on to, please, i will interrupt you a little, there is

a council for this, first of all there is a commission of state awards and heraldry, which should consider those submissions that are found and regarding ukraine as well , and not only, theoretically on these issues of... any awarding in ukraine must be considered by the state awards and hierarchy commission, this is a public organization, and in reality it has never done this in its entirety during its existence and physically cannot do it, sometimes higher ranks are considered, ee from time to time, from time to time not always higher orders, time. quite often, submissions after they have gone through the entire procedure, from time to time the heroes of ukraine,

it is impossible to consider everything, but there is such a body, and the expert council in this commission is also there, in our country here literally, well, there are bodies that should do it, look, really, well, is he a hero or not at all, by the way. we have two heroes in ukraine, there is a gold star sight, this is for a heroic deed and the state order is also a hero of ukraine for an outstanding achievement, i honestly don't know if you know, but for what, well, iryna forion was submitted to of this petition, i 'm not sure what award it even says, gold star. was written to the dosage of the hero of ukraine from what i read as a submission. i know we don't have much time there may still be five classes, but two topics, well, at least we will define them, you will define them,

and we may continue one day. this conversation, because she, she, is important, and i will not talk now about stripping the titles of heroes of ukraine, those who once received them in some way, but he is not worthy of them, there are even current deputies, some who shook putin's hand and tried to agree on it, but now there are a lot of petitions and calls to sign the petition regarding awarding the title of heroes of ukraine, specifically stars to servicemen who died at the front, this is... the number of such petitions and what to count on here, because it is well worth proving the heroism of the act, what is the prospect for relatives, many of whom expect that their petition will be considered by the president or the commission first, please so, look, there are chances that there are about 300 such petitions at this time, uh... during the entire period

of the great war from the 24th, from the 22nd, from february 24 , 24th, 399 people received the title of hero of ukraine with the awarding of the golden star order, i.e. for a heroic act. for since the 14th year 76 people and 3000 petitions are found. well, they got the necessary number of votes, these petitions are real, well, during consideration, of course, they can somehow be calculated there, but they do not play a small decisive role, it is much more important, much much much much more so to describe, to write on paper the training of that

hero. which is served, how to get 25 thousand votes, unfortunately, if you look at how the heroic deeds of our heroes are described on paper, this, this is something terrible, the overwhelming majority of votes, very rarely it is actually written in such a way that you want to cry that i i know such and such a person, this is very important. more important, that is, to write the circumstances, yes, this is a feat, if a fighter sat in a trench for 3 years, fulfilled his duty, did not betray his oath, he is a hero or not, no, understand me, a hero is one, for example, who in one battle, risking his life, knocked down three tanks and

squeezed out... a freak for his fellow equals, this is a heroic act, and if a person fulfills his duty, he is faithful to his oath, he, i would think, should be presented to the order, it can to be, but this is not heroism, and, well, of course, we call all our defenders heroes, and we understand that they are people, but i, but we are now talking about, because maybe someone is, and literally very briefly, we still have such characters here, received the title of heroes of ukraine, there are such people who in general no one in ukraine knows who they are, and they turn out to be heroes of ukraine when they are deprived of these titles? so, thank god, now under the current president

zelenskyi, this issue has moved, i hope that very soon the corresponding law will be adopted, which simplifies the deprivation traitors of such awards, so far it is difficult enough, now only three three people are deprived of the title of hero of ukraine, each time it is separate, well, it is a difficult procedure, and this issue is not the first or the second and not where, well, it has been more than 10 years, it has been 10 years so... it is already standing, and now it has moved, well, we hope that it will not only move, but also plunge into the abyss, as they say, thank you very much, oleksandr sopov, honored worker of the industry of ukraine and the author of 10 state awards ukraine, i developed them, yes, because i did not immediately say, thank you very much for that joined in, thanks for the comments, this is really an important topic that can be discussed a lot, but again, here is an important topic that i would like to emphasize now for the brothers, for the families...