tv [untitled] September 21, 2024 4:00am-4:31am EEST
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real estate in the temporarily occupied crimea is also given, where hanna sveredenko has four non-residential premises in gaspri, which is near yalta, as well as several plots of land in sudak and a house of over 300 m2. gorbasenko refuses to provide new explanations regarding these facts. the information, which is allegedly compiled in the new conclusion, has already been investigated, has already been processed and refuted, i am categorically against the postponement and... i will ask the honorable members of the commission to continue the review. after the closed discussion of the higher qualifications, the commission again decides to postpone the proceedings regarding gorbasenko. based on the result of the discussion, a protocol decision is announced to postpone consideration of the issue. we asked pavlo gorbasenko about the probable intention to hide real marital relations, connections with the aggressor state and about fortunes that cause doubts. please tell me what your father was doing roaming on... i
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don't want to answer you on the go, if you want to do a good interview, then come visit, send questions, even about the fortunes analyzed by the community council, good time fabrications, fortunes have been analyzed and a conclusion has been drawn that there are no questions about fortunes, so let's not invent a report out of something that doesn't exist. we hope that after a thorough ... study of all the newly discovered facts that may testify to the dishonesty of pavlo gorbasenko, the commission will make a fair decision regarding the servant of themis. its relevance cannot be overestimated, because while the supreme court of appeals is delaying the verdict, the judge is already preparing for the competition for a position in the northern commercial court of appeal, which will take place in month. and for today i have everything, it was the judicial control program and i... tatyana
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shutrova. if you want to report corrupt judges or illegal decisions, write to me on facebook or to this email address. see you in exactly a week. an unusual look at the news. good health, ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresin. presentation of facts and competent opinions, for example, if mykola veresen had done this, he would have gone to prison. a special look at the events in ukraine, so it is not necessary to say that the fish rots from the head, no, not from the head, but beyond its borders, who then is china, my heart aches. all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny. saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. a journalist who joined the armed forces, a political expert who became a special officer.
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events reports, comments of the leading real front is a thorough analysis of the main specialists and experts. analytics from the major of the armed forces. how to make sense of disturbing news and distinguish truth from hostile propaganda. the real front program with taras berezovets every saturday at 21:30 on espresso. i congratulate you, dear viewers, today on spresso tv channel an interview that is worth hearing, we invited volodymyr kudrytskyi, he is the ex-head of prad nek-ukrenergo, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, a person who was talked about a lot, there were many rumors, but today we will dismantle all the rumors and try to understand what happened, what are there now, what are the prospects, well specifically for mr. volodymyr, well, of course more... you are interested in the measure, whether we will have
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light, what are the prospects of our energy system actually on the eve of the autumn-winter period, on the eve of the heating season , but we will start anyway since your release, at that time the main motivation that was voiced was that the objects were not ready for enemy strikes, the shelters did not work, the energy system suffered serious damage, people were sitting without electricity, well, as a logical continuation this story became... dismissal, but in fact, no one still understands, but why were you dismissed from your position? well, actually, this is a vivid example of how you can try to return the media field through anonymous telegram channels and youtube podcasts of some bloggers so as to turn reality upside down, in fact. the fact is as follows: there are about 80 main objects that he manages. ukrenergo is a company that
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transports electricity through main networks and has several dozen substations that just deliver electricity from the main network to the oblenergo network, and... already about 70 ukrenergo facilities have storage facilities for the most critical type of equipment, these are autotransformers, these actually those big machines, such big devices that convert voltage from very high voltage trunk class 330,000 in 750 00 in voltage, which is typical for distribution networks that reach every house and all 17 million subscribers that currently exist in... these autotransformers, as many probably know, were the objects of attacks and in the 22nd, 23rd year, and in the 24th year as well, the russians quite actively tried to attack them with shaheds, so anti-shahed defense is built on the absolute majority of our objects, i would say such cynicism and
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paradoxical situation is that on to any other critical object infrastructure in this country, protection of this kind is currently not in dispute. therefore, if we talk about some bad results of ukrenergo in the construction of protection, then we should probably start with the wrong organization, which built about 70 structures together with the water restoration company, probably look at those objects where nothing was built at all. if we talk specifically about our company, now the trunk network is quite well protected by these engineering fortifications, and by the way. the latest mass attack, where more than 100 missiles and 130 drones were used, ugh, she just demonstrated the reliability of this defense, why? because there were outages for several days and after that they disappeared, that is, all bottlenecks in the network, after the arrival of several dozen missiles, they were
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eliminated literally there in 10 days, which of course would have been impossible if the objects were not protected, you understand , what is the arrival of a rocket into any... object, be it into a residential building, be it into an industrial object, or even more so into an electric power object, so all these accusations are just an attempt to somehow justify that the situation that happened and an attempt, as time has shown, to be quite unsuccessful, because, actually, as you yourself say, questions remain, and i have already commented on this situation, i believe that this is simply an attempt to take control of the company, including from the side of mini. if, well, in order not to reveal certain secrets to the enemy first of all, but if you say that there is a shelter and there is a system of shelters that has proven itself on the good side due to the fact that, of course, in a fairly short time
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there was power supply to homes, not only to homes, but also to various institutions and establishments there restored, that is, there is a case, you saw those places where, relatively speaking, there was... there was either the fall of a shaheed, or fragments of a rocket, or some other things, and it protected, so there were direct, there were cases of direct hits of the shaheed in these shelters, and the shelters worked perfectly, the equipment was saved, and in most cases such equipment was put back into operation on the same day, these shelters, because we talked about it, but somehow there is no such answer, well, maybe there is no such answer, because maybe it cannot be voiced, but just wondering if there is certification for these shelters...or is it being done by specialists, it should work, that is, by some such body that would come and say yes, this is certified, this is a shelter, here it is, well, not quite a shelter, because it is not what we should have, it is certified by a body , and you know it, it’s called the general staff, uh, er, the design of these
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shelters, er, that is, project solutions, they were formed and implemented, er, according to the requirements of the general staff, which clearly understands and knows what is the impact of the combat unit there of various types, unmanned aerial vehicles of kamikaze type drones rockets, at what angles they can hit, what is the force of shahed's explosion when it comes into contact with the surface of this warehouse, and so on, that is, all these technical parameters, which at... in the general staff were implemented in these projects and the projects of these warehouses would also be approved by the general staff, so if we are talking about a certain mark of quality, then it is issued by the general staff in the first place. if we talk
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today about the protection of the ukrainian energy system, you said a lot, but of course people think like that, well, surely not everything is closed, not everything is secured, and it is worth more something. to do it, this work continues on the creation of protective structures and - will the time actually remaining before the onset of severe cold be enough to... to do the maximum of what is possible today for shelter, well, we are now talking about ukrainian energy, well if we talk about ukrenergo, then i can responsibly say that the main network, which transports power from large power plants to oblenergo, you can not particularly worry about, the first line of shelters, which are the most critical, which allow stable to transport electricity during the autumn-winter period, they... this first stage is actually already being finalized there, and the absolute majority of those shelters that were supposed
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to be built, they have already been built, the equipment is placed there, it is now connected to the network, the planning process is underway, which will be completed there during the month of october this year, so for the ability of energy to transport power, i would n't worry so much, and the biggest attack that was ... according to my august 26, if i'm not mistaken, it just shows that even such the attack cannot cause any catastrophic consequences for the energetic. when we talk about shelters, we must also understand that there are about 100 large objects in the energy system and about 30,000 small ones, 100 large ones are a couple of dozen large power plants and about 80 ukrenergo substations. all these large objects have an area of tens of hectares, some power plants. have an area of hundreds of hectares, and it is clear that you cannot build some kind of conflation
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, like in chernobyl, over an area of, i don’t know, 10 or 100 football fields, it it is physically impossible and impractical, therefore , only the critical elements of each object are protected, well, for the ukrenergo substation, as well as for the power plant, by the way, one of the critical elements is the autotransformers, which convert the voltage from... from a higher class to a lower one for that it would be possible to further transport this electricity to citizens, to industrial enterprises, to hospitals, to schools, kindergartens and so on, respectively, when damage occurs either by a rocket or a kamikat drone from some object, possible some temporary outages while the repair crews fix the non -critical equipment that can be replaced quickly, but the main thing is to secure the most complex, the most... expensive equipment that takes a very long time to replace, it can take weeks,
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even months, and that's it this program for the protection of energy facilities is focused on this, if we talk about what still needs to be done before winter, of course, now we need to focus on the protection, engineering protection of our power plants in such an emergency, urgent manner, because if the ukrenergo network historically... has a large margin of safety and today, when winter has not yet come, it is nevertheless able to transport power, well , including through transformers, which is twice our highest maximum consumption in the country, then the situation with electricity generation is the exact opposite, you know that the country has lost more than 9 gw of generation, this is more than half or half of all available generation as of the past. in winter, not all of this power will be available restored by winter, accordingly, we will have
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fewer power plants in operation, fewer power units in operation than last winter, and those power plants that have survived now, and those power plants that are now being restored and will be restored by winter, they must be protected, they it is necessary to provide, because there are practically the same substations near them that connect the power unit to the network. these substations also need to be protected, and of course, first of all, we need to take care of active protection, that is, working with partners to strengthen our air defense forces, because air defense, it gives there 85-90, probably percent protection against enemy missile and drone attacks. well, by the way, now the italians have a second sump system to transfer to ukraine, i think that their initiative is supported by other partners, germany also promises there. well, give more for the front, but i think that also for energy protection, well, you say that now we have half
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as much as we had last winter, i remember last winter, too, those there and the year before last and candles and points of unbreakability , it happened that even in such more or less cities that are far from the front, well , they had to sit for more than a day without electricity, that is, it should be clear to people now that if we talk about this gigawatt promised by the president, again, it will not... ensure, he said , well, we will see how it will be implemented, but in any case we must understand that when the load increases, it will increase, because the heaters, and people there will use more electricity, then in any case on... if everything will be good with defense, repel enemy attacks, minimal there will be damage, all the same planned outages will return with the onset of cold weather, because as i understand it, the existing volume is banal, it will have to be, well, distributed evenly, which means that someone will have to save, despite the fact that there are objects of critical infrastructure, as far as i
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understand, which must be provided permanently, you are right, the objects of critical infrastructure are heat supply, water supply. drainage, they, well, some other objects, they must be provided permanently, they are not included in these queues shutdowns, indeed in cold weather, with the onset of cold weather, consumption will increase quite sharply, at the same time, it must be said that compared to today, the number of generations will also increase, because some nuclear power units will be repaired, the repair campaign at nuclear power plants will end, and they will be restored. power units of thermal power plants, that is, it cannot be said that we will enter the winter with today's generation composition, no, it will be greater, but the increase in consumption in relation to today, it will exceed the increase in the generation that we will have calculated in winter, and therefore in the cold periods of winter, when the temperature reaches -5, -7, -10° on
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average per day, a shortage of electricity is very likely, let's say so, and it is not covered by the available generation resource, which is planned for winter no, also by additional volumes of imports from europe, which ukrenergo provided after uniting the energy system of ukraine and europe in the 22nd year, but this import, first of all, unfortunately, is not used to the full extent, it is used by about 30-40%. well, because quite often in europe the price is still higher, than in ukraine, i.e. people should understand that we are not given electricity just like that, we buy it at a higher price than it is, and it is bought there by mainly private companies and there by some state companies on a commercial basis, i.e. after buying electricity in europe, they must to sell at least without a loss in ukraine, and when the price in ukraine is lower
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than the european price, of course it is impossible, and to whom they sell to consumers or businesses, the electricity spot exchange, which is called the market in advance, is the market today for tomorrow, there are different options, but mostly electricity is imported for large industrial consumers, who in this way protect themselves from blackouts, because there is such a decree of the cabinet of ministers that allows you to avoid blackouts if you import a certain percentage of your consumption, well, and accordingly, its industrial enterprises for the technological process of which blackouts to... very, well, let's say this, harmful, they are very sensitive to these blackouts, in this way, they overpay a little for electricity, nevertheless secure their production, from this negative phenomenon, we will now continue to talk about things about energy, technology, preparation for winter and other important
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issues, but i will ask a question that was dispersed by such, you know, as in this, as in vacuum . very quickly, and that's how they disagreed about the bonus that you allegedly received when you left the position of head of pratnek ukrenergo, and it was about uah 40 million. here it is interesting where this amount came from, in principle, who was the first to voice it, because it must be a person who has access to a certain financial statements, well, that is, i think that not everyone knows how much, say, an espresso employee could receive a bonus if he received it there, well, you need to have it, have some insiders, but... who was the first to announce this figure, why 40 million and was there any prize at all? well, first of all, i must say that the first to announce this amount, as far as i know , was the trukhai telegram channel, such an anonymous telegram channel, which is not the first time to announce lies, this amount has nothing to do with reality, they published, by
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the way, interesting fact, they published this... part of the photos from the minutes of the meeting of the supervisory board, where, upon my dismissal, it was also written the need for a full settlement with me as an employee, including the payment of those previously unpaid payments for previous years starting as early as the 21st, because according to my under the contract, part of the payments to me and mine now... do not pay the bonus, it was basically withheld until the end of my contract, or for several years, and where the amount of 40 million came from, i simply do not know, it is made up, just like made up the story of the poor protection of the ukrenergo substation, which are the only objects in principle protected in this country, and i can say that
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i received part of the bonuses there for previous years, which were not paid, when i was dismissed, this is a completely normal practice when the employee is fired, he will receive all the payments due to him, and the amount of these payments is many times smaller. than what was voiced by trukha's telegram channel, 3.5 bloggers and one people's deputy, who was very actively interested in this very issue, picked up there, and very was little interested, for example, in the issue of protection of real infrastructure objects, other than the okrnr substation. you know, i, for example, never like to count other people's money, it, well, you won't get bigger, someone else won't get smaller because of that, you'll just lose time and maybe nerve cells, but in any case... when such information enters the public space, many people will hear and will not hear when this information is refuted. and when
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there will be time in ukraine, perhaps, well, there are already such precedents, of course, but aren't you interested in, say, well, for example, suing people who will voice such information, just not because you will win something there, or have extra money, most likely an extra hassle, well but it would just be like that... for such figures and the next time with the next employee of a state company or politician, they simply thought whether to write a blatant lie or not to write? well, good advice, i will actually think about it, i want to say that unfortunately, probably the amount of payments there to the head of ukrenergo for several years, it is smaller. than, for example, the amount of the bribe of the deputy minister of energy for one transaction, and i think that the problem, the main problem
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is not that telegram channels write lies, some people there who have their youtube channels, there or the parliamentary mandates of zai spread, in the fact that with great probability, unfortunately, this is done for money, and this money is not taken from the white... top management of companies, but from some obviously shady cash flows, and as i said, their scale is obviously much larger more than the payments there by the management of ukrenergo or some other energy companies. i am from my salary, i have always paid taxes correctly, i have always received only a white salary during my career, and i am very... proud of the fact that, relatively speaking, the higher the salary i receive, the more taxes i can pay to the state budget , well, as far as
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lawsuits are concerned, let’s see, there will be time, maybe we will deal with it, i hope, by the way, that there is such an initiative in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, in order to bring out of the shadows the owners or the ultimate beneficiaries of these or other telegram channels that have millions of subscribers there, more than a million subscribers, just so that everyone understands who is behind it, because if the media has, well, there are certain media that have less influence , than individual telegram channels, now 70, more than 70% of ukrainians get their news from telegram channels, by the way, this is yesterday's information, research, it's just a fact, and that's why, relatively speaking, the espressu tv channel or the direct tv channel, or tv channel rada or any other tv channel is responsible before the national commission, before the law, well , other people also have to answer, because it actually already exists as a means of mass information, well, because again, ukrainians get such and such... news from there, and one more question, again well, here it is, well, not personnel, but these rumors, they must be finished to the end, and then we will return to generation and
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waiting for the autumn-winter period, and they wrote that the minister of energy galushchenko could be behind your dismissal, and if yes, why this information appeared, well this information, first of all, i also said in previous interviews that i consider the ministry to be the initiator of this whole situation, i will repeat once again that this situation has nothing to do with the bad or good protection of the ukrenergo substation there, it is a complete absurdity, and this is simply a desire to obviously control the operational activities of the company, attempts at such control began as early as the 21st year, to control money, yes to control money, to control some, i don’t know... personnel appointments within the company have been active since the 21st year try there to offer me very good people for various positions in the management of the company, which i
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rejected. there were attempts to change the management of the company outside the supervisory board in the 21st year, already during the invasion and in the midst of the invasion , there were attempts to change the board once again, there were attempts to dictate, for example, the sequence of debt payments on the electricity market, well, that is, these were quite lively attempts interfere with ours. yes, and with documents, with official letters, orders and so on, and we have never once succumbed to these attempts, they stopped at some point, obviously, when people realized that there was no point in talking to us in such a language, but numerous inspections began, first a ministerial audit, then the state audit service conducted an audit with the participation of representatives
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of the ministry, then... numerous investigations by law enforcement authorities, media, by the way, attacks too, and they did not start before my dismissal or after my dismissal, they began many months ago, i will remind you that the same lie was published about my salary of 2 million uah, and in my opinion, it was trukha's telegram channel that actively dispelled this fake, well, some other things were counted there, how many air conditioners are in my house, well, some. they just published delusions, but obviously it was such an art training, and it is absolutely obvious to me that i am increasing or decreasing the intensity of these attempts, well, finally to get this control over the company, but now it is a paradoxical situation, because due to a rather active reaction of civil society and including our western partners, who entrusted ukrenergo with 1.5 bln euro funding during the invasion, this
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is more than... the ministry and other energy companies were involved together, after this reaction the process stopped, that is, i was fired, my deputy was appointed by the supervisory board, yes, oleksiy brecht, this is our technical director, and in fact now there is such a crossroad, that is, or the normal management system of the company will be restored, when... a supervisory board is created, it must have a majority of independent people who supervise the company's activities without any, regardless of anyone's whims there, well, let's say, such a good word, i don't know, it's in ukrainian, it's just not from ukrainian, not from ukrainian realities, this word, that's why it sounds so smotryachy and not
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from ukrainian realities, but... yes, yes, yes , the question is that the institution of the onlookers is, conditionally, something that has forever, we must forever forget it in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or, if you want, civilized, institutions of civilized education, if we go there, then we need to build such institutions, and of course, one must not forget that state-owned companies are public property. property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone, and sometimes officials forget about this and begin to identify themselves as if with the owner of a state company, and this is why supervisory boards are needed to isolate the company from such negative possible influence, in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory the council performed this function for several years, and i ... very much
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hope that after the situation with my dismissal, will be restored, already created the new supervisory board, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which for three winters already maintained the power system in extremely difficult conditions, united it with the european power system, did a lot to strengthen the protection that this team will be allowed to work quietly, that is and what... it's an interesting time now, well, again, we have to understand, there are acting responsibilities, oleksii brecht, whom you know, about whom you mentioned, and the work continues, i understand that the train moves on those by the same track, without turning anywhere, which one is time for there to be an understanding, this person will begin to perform his duties without this prefix, without this.
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