of the otovo-primorsky region of the russian federation, then it was the rsfsr in 1964, in the family of a military man, graduated from high school, entered the higher military school, he was actually recruited at the stage of his studies, when he was trained on the territory of the russian federation, upon arrival to ukraine, he came to the status of a so-called sleeping agent, that is, these are recruited people who are waiting for specific instructions from the enemy's special services. initially, after a large-scale invasion, such an instruction came. i would not then take the oath on february 22, 1992, but would take a step forward, turn around and go to russia. if i knew how it would all turn out, and what it would lead to, i would just spit and go to russia. i would just spit and go to russia. i refused the post of colonel in the crimea four times. i refused the post of colonel in the crimea four times. for the reasons that after all

, home is first of all housing, i had housing in ochakov, i served in ochakov for 14 years, i had housing there, wherever i went, i would like my family to be with me, but housing was not given, put two children in an incomprehensible place, one of them is my son, born in 1991, but you have a son in the armed forces, i have a question, how did it happen? what happened that he is in the armed forces of ukraine, yes, and you work for russian intelligence, you and your son had a disagreement, not only with your son, but also with your daughter, the fact that it could somehow way to kill your son? yes it could kill me, yes it could kill me how long was it?

i see from practice that people are motivated by russian propaganda, it will be better there, that's why i did not realize myself here, i am already 50 years old, that i have nothing, they will come. orky and i will have

a better new life. here. i can see from communicating with such dzhradniks, especially in the first minutes after being detained, when they talk about their motives for their activities. probably, more than half of them have exactly such motives. unfortunately, since the time of the full-scale aggression in the mykolaiv region, quite a lot of state traitors have been discovered, among them quite high-profile ones. now you have to take into account that the war is going on, the full-scale war has been going on for more than three years, and the methods the work of the enemy's special services is changing in the same way, if at the beginning of the full-scale invasion russia bet on so-called sleeper agents, that is, people who had contacts with the russian federation, went to the territory there, or had relatives there, now their medtots are changing somewhat, and a large the number of agencies that... work for them

today, they're recruited through social media. since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, social networks have become one of the main sources of information for ukrainians, but russia also uses them for recruitment. in on social networks and telegram channels , representatives of the special services of the russian federation offer cooperation to ukrainians, inducing blackmail. homeland, sometimes the highest morning. it is possible to track down the alleged traitors . interesting information was received that...

that representatives of the aggressor state from mykolaiv receive certain data related to law enforcement activities in the region, at that time law enforcement activities were reduced to the essence. before repelling aggression, and it was therefore of military importance, of course they quickly began to check this information, who could, who could possess the data that the aggressor state of the russian federation receives, and received certain triggers for the prosecutor's office, of course, that his position, it needed a more detailed check, i had a connection with the blogger. youtube, got in touch with him, i did it on my own initiative, no one came to me, it was around the beginning of march, maybe the fifth, sixth, tenth, i don't remember exactly, by and large he

himself came out on them, he himself came out on them proactively, being in disagreement with certain ones circumstances that, in his opinion, were considered not... fair or wrong decisions of the state and regional leadership, and he decided, he decided to share them with a pro-russian blogger, who in turn already led him to the representatives of the special services. at that time, there were prisoners of war in mykolaiv, he reported about them, there were also, unfortunately, many dead servicemen from the kherson region, he also presented the lists of the dead. to representatives of the special services of the aggressor state and another direction he had, this passwords, a lot, i'll be honest, i guess after he started giving out passwords, we had no choice, we had to stop his illegal activities, which we

did, the number of this one is here, or whatever it's called, deleted him or correspondence with him, dear. he was not ready for the fact that he would be detained, he was quite weakened at that time, he was entering the offices of the first persons of law enforcement agencies in the mykolaiv region and felt quite confident. in principle, he conveyed the entire important situation in the city of mykolaiv at that time, for this he was promised a position in the newly created, again in the coffeehouses of the law enforcement agency. er, that they seemed to be interested in me, i understood for myself that it was, er, the higher management was interested, i understood this way from the prosecutor's office of the russian federation, after the report that after the investigation, they would not be able to work,

nothing more, at first he admitted his guilt, later he changed the shows. today he has a completely different defense position, but how could it be that you did not see this information, however, you continue to send her and do not understand what is being done to her, i understand what was done to her, please tell me what happened to her, probably that he handed her over to the law enforcement agency of the russian federation, a very interesting episode with the prosecutor, the head of the district prosecutor's office, so why, because this is one of the examples of super... filigree work of the security service of ukraine. what is filigree? that when we received information that he might be a traitor, an operational combination was carried out, which was that this prosecutor was given by our people we will introduce false data, eh, because he

was collecting various information about our military, about losses about objects and so on, and at that moment our... our employees, they monitored the documents that were sent to his russian curator, and after that , literally after a short period of time, when he was given this false information, after a short period of time it appears in his curator, that is, the person is documented, and managed not only to play ahead, but also managed to misinform the enemy. to put it simply in the language of numbers, it is treason - these are 25 criminal proceedings, about 500 sentences, collaborative activity - this is about 6.5 criminal proceedings and about 700 sentences, and what the people call the adjustment of enemy fire, which in the

official language sounds like the unauthorized dissemination of information about the movement of the armed forces, is about 500 people, a hundred of them have already received sentences. this is a person of any profession, because among the exposed sbu agents there were also people's deputies, and they were also unemployed people, the geography of crimes is also as wide as possible, of course, that most of the correctional officers there are in the front-line territories, but they are also found in the territory of the western regions of ukraine. as for motivation, in general, they can be divided into three categories: the first category is ideological, that is, people who are supporters of racism, the idea of ​​a russian measure, the second category of people are people who work for financial gain, and the third category is people , which perform tasks. through blackmail, there can be many examples of how people are induced to cooperate,

in particular, we recently had an exposure when the sbu detained a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, whose father lived in the temporarily occupied territory, the rashists received information that his son was fighting on the side of the armed forces, and thus attacked him, began. torture your father and say, they said: if you don't want us to kill your father, then do our tasks, that is, the motivation can be completely different, but the message from the sbu is unambiguous and clear, that sooner or later we will find every traitor, every agent of the russian federation , and we will bring them to justice. the full-scale invasion seems to have worked as a catalyst in the fight against state traitors in ukraine. since the beginning of the russian-led war in 2014

, a little more than two dozen people have been convicted under this article, and in the two years of the full-scale invasion , half a thousand people have already been sentenced for treason, and it seems that the catalyst has only started a violent reaction. exclusively on the air of our channel. congratulations, friends, the politclub program is on the air on the espresso tv channel. the most relevant topics of the week. nato member countries have huge arsenals, and russia is already on the verge of exhausting its resources. topics that resonate in our society. this is the question of trump's victory, what is it? analysis of the processes that change the country as well. of us, what else can the russians do, are they able to use, let's say, the resources of the allied with them,

the lukashenka army, vitaly portnikov and the guests of the project, read the entire explanation, accept my union, i thank you, it was difficult, but i was just interested , but this is absolutely not the case, they help to understand the present and predict the future, offered the bloated state to conclude a bilateral security agreement with us, a project for the caring and thinking politclub. every sunday at 20:00 at espresso. all his life, 57-year-old volodymyr bundaruk lived in the apartment of building number 38 on brativ mikhnovskikh street. however, the morning shelling of lviv on september 4, 2024 turned the man's apartment into ruins. well, as you can see, everything, all the plaster has flown away, the windows are broken, the doors, there are even holes visible, such

that the wall has moved away, because the load-bearing wall, there are cracks, the frames are broken, you see there, on there are no windows in the window, in the middle of the man's bedroom there is an old wardrobe damaged by debris, it was she who took all the consequences of the blast wave. and covered volodymyr from pieces of glass and fittings, his head was here, and that, his, i was sleeping here, you see, here is the closet, it was a little partially covered by the closet, then once, and the second time, i, if what, if i were here was under that wall, then it would have been even worse, maybe it would have flown at full speed straight into me, and yes, i was a little under the wall, and then everything that fell into the wall was just rubble... on me , to me it was just lucky that i was in a horizontal position, because if i had walked around the house

like my neighbor, i would have been reschito the same way. in this building , 12 apartments were left without a roof and with cracks in the load-bearing walls, all of them cannot be repaired, the owners of the apartments can only take the things that survived, later the apartments almost in the very center of lviv will be demolished, and their residents have been promised new ones. they looked and said that yes, it is true that it is unrealistic to invest money in those houses, because the damage is very strong, there were meetings. administration and said that issues will be resolved with each apartment, with each owner, and an apartment will be provided and people will move. now mr. volodymyr lives in a modular town on polyuya street, it was deconserved immediately after the russian missile attack on the city on september 4. no one lived in it for almost two years, so

first the administration checked all communications, turned on the power supply, and prepared it. 20 residential units and a kitchen. now there are five families living there which are destroyed or badly damaged. it is a modular town, consisting of two parts, and it was opened to house people from the east who were affected by the war. and taking into account that the module is four-seater, that is, the total number of extra people is 320. three meals a day from world central kitchen. these are our long-standing partners, from the first days they supported all shelters where displaced people lived, where victims of among those who have been living in the modular town for more than a week is mr. stanislav denys from wife maria and pets. they do not complain about the conditions in the module, but they dream of returning to their apartment as soon as possible. there were commissions, well, acts were recorded. well, they said that they would install windows, well, but it's

somewhere, well, it will be at least in a month and a half. residents who lost their apartments as a result. attacks and decided to rent housing, the city will compensate the rental cost. the executive committee of the lviv city council made the relevant decision on september 5. we are talking about compensation in the amount of 10, 12 and 15 thousand, according to which accommodation in of people was destroyed, one with two or four rooms. by the way, according to the same scheme , the lviv city council still compensates the rent of housing from the city budget to those who lost their homes as a result of a rocket hitting... a residential building on stryyska street on july 6 , 2023. ema stadnyk, nazar melnyk, espresso tv channel.

today in the program verdict with serhii

rudenko, europe will help us, the head of the european commission, ursula fonderlyajen. brought to kyiv a promise to support the ukrainian energy industry during the difficult heating season, which was also discussed during the negotiations with president of ukraine? high level week. on the sidelines of the un general assembly, zelensky plans to present a plan for ukrainian victory to biden, garis and trump. could it really be about inviting ukraine to nato already this year? nuclear scarecrows of the kremlin. the speaker of the russian state duma, volodin, promises western countries to use more powerful weapons in response to long-range strikes on russian territory. does putin have any paint left for new red lines? glory to ukraine, this is the

verdict program. my name is sergey. greetings to all and i wish everyone good health. in the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. in the first part of our program, together with the diplomat and ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine valery chaly , we will sum up the results of the foreign policy week, and predict the next week, which will be full of the un general assembly, zelensky's visit to washington, and the speech of the president of ukraine. at the uun general assembly and the presentation of the victory plan. during the second hour of our broadcast, starting at 9:15 p.m there will be a journalism club with the participation of marina. yeermalaeva and bohdan butkevich. let's talk about both domestic and foreign policy. however, before starting our big conversation today, i suggest

watching a video of how fighters of the 72nd separate mechanized brigade strike the enemy. in august alone, the warrior managed to destroy 664 invaders, three tanks, 34 armored fighting vehicles, and almost 300 drones. and other pieces of equipment, let's watch this enchanting video.

glory to all fighters. separate mechanized brigades and death to the russian occupiers. friends, throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about the following: do you take the kremlin's nuclear threats seriously? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video. in parallel, you can join our platforms, on which we have separate pages, and set preferences. our video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smart phone or phone and vote on your phones if you're serious perceive the kremlin's nuclear threats, 0800 211

381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today 's guest, valery chaly, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador. in the united states of america in 2015-19, chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center, mr. valery, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. so, there is already a definite date, mr. valery, for the presentation of the plan ukraine's victory in the united states of america, on september 26, zelensky will meet with joseph biden in washington. in addition, meetings of the ukrainian president with trump and haris are scheduled during the un general assembly. at a joint

press conference with the president of the european commission , ursula fondeen, president zelenskyi said that the implementation of ukraine's victory plan primarily depends on the decisions of the president of the united states of america , joe biden. let's listen to what zelensky said. most of the decision. as for the plan, it depends on him, well, also on other allies, but there are points that depend precisely on the positive will and support of the united states, i very much hope that he supports this plan, the whole plan is designed for quick decisions by our partners, the plan is designed for decisions that must happen starting from october to december. and not to delay these processes, we would very much like that, then we believe that the plan will work. mr. valery, what if suddenly

the main bet that zelensky makes on joe biden does not work, and all the points that are in this victory plan, which so far i have only seen president zelenskyi and his entourage will not work, so what will happen then? well, let me start with the fact that... we have already been given so many plans, chinese, sino-brazilian, once upon a time there were even, let me remind you, african plans, well, i am not talking about friendly countries, but the german social democrats recently drew a plan for us , that we have to give way there, even the americans recently arrived, high-level experts also spoke at the meetings, and how flexible you would like to be, let your president be'... regarding territorial maybe there are some solutions there, so there are a lot of plans, but i will tell you that even though i

have not seen the texts there, but i understand, the idea is clear, it is necessary to kill all this, a bunch of plans and still give a ukrainian plan , so that we don't forget who is the main subject of opposition to russia, because it seems that everyone around is solving the issue, you know, only our armed forces of ukraine are beating the crap out of them, yes, and they are dying for it, so i the desire to overturn this pyramid is very impressive and... and this is the assurance of the partners, let your president be more flexible there, some kind of compromise there, maybe in form, yes, because volodymyr zelenskyi, he does not quite speak diplomatically with his partners, this is his style, really not quite diplomatically, but in the essence of the issues, i will say here , that they are also wrong, because they

are demanding from ukraine what is... impossible, now regarding our initiatives, until i heard the time frame, i could seriously discuss these plans, now i believe that it does not make sense, so that this is then a completely different idea, it is not no, not a plan for victory, this, i think, can be described as a ukrainian request for interaction, partnership, support, and an emphasis on... the fact that right now there is a chance to change the course of this war, because you see that everything is equal so far, putin is still trying to implement the occupation goals, they think that winter will hit our energy infrastructure, that is, everyone understands that the peace summit, there, it will not lead to anything in terms of stopping the war, so this is... a process, i

would called, it is closer to diplomatic, but the paradox is, in my opinion, that diplomacy, which was a way to avoid war, it ended in exactly the 22nd year, on february 24th, and the new stage of diplomacy has no chance yet, so far the key role is played by the armed forces of ukraine, the ukrainian people, and as long as this will happen, as long as it happens, then the diplomats... any, even the most talented, they can't do anything, so it's such a parallel process that is needed, of course, but unfortunately, i look at it quite pessimistically from the point of view october-december, and we will radically change something there, i don't know how, i i would very much like our delegation to pay attention to the fact that the president of the united states, whether she or he, does not have any instruments for ...

helping ukraine, neither lend-lease nor the budget, moreover, they somehow managed not to spend 6 billion until 1 october of the financial year, and now they are spinning, they don't know how and what to do next with this, that is, we do not have a vision for the finances for help for the next year, and we are talking about something about victory, that is, now we need to emphasize in america that in order to receive for the next year that putin knew that there was us support in in size at least, together with the allies, at least 120 billion dollars together, because putin invests 100, that is, well 120, it is still true, i said, it is not for victory, it is in order to turn or change the course of the war , but let's say the goal of obtaining more long-range weapons, that is, short-range missiles, 300, 500 up to 100 km, but which we do not have

in sufficient quantity, so these specific goals, i hope, will be achieved, all performances are public, you will hear, it will be, let's say, not what the plan is, it will be some an additional addendum to the peace formula, and a statement that the ukrainian position is based on the same foundations, and then the conclusion that an invitation to nato is needed, so that now the invitation is political, and membership is already after the end. war, that is, in principle , we will not see anything new, in the appendices to such theses there will indeed be specifics in three directions, but if we talk about meetings, well, they will be ordinary meetings, only now the cover is like this, it sounds beautiful, and this right, probably because, for example, the word victory plan they...