it was also written the need for a settlement, well, a full settlement with me, as an employee, including the payment of those not previously paid there, not previously made payments for previous years, starting from the 21st, because according to my contract, part of the payments to me there of my salary wages, bonuses, it was essentially withheld until the end of my contract or for several years, and where did it come from? the sum of 40 million, i simply do not know, it is made up, just like the made-up story about the bad protection of the ukrenergo substation, which are apparently the only ones in in principle, the objects are protected in this country, and i can say that i actually received part of the bonuses there for previous years that were not paid when i was fired, this is a completely normal practice, when an employee is fired, he receives all the payments due to him and... . and the amount

of these payments, it is many times smaller than what was announced by the trukha telegram channel, was picked up by 3 bloggers and one deputy who was very actively interested in this issue, and very little interested, for example, in the issue of protection objects infrastructures other than the okrnr substation, you know, i, for example, never like to count other people's money, you won't have more of it, someone won't have less of it. then you will simply lose time and possibly nerve cells, but in any case, when such information gets into the public, into the public space, many people will hear and will not hear when this information will be refuted, and when there will be time in ukraine, perhaps well, there are already such precedents, of course, but are you not interested in, say, well, for example, filing in judgment on people who will voice such information, simply not because you will win something there, or have an extra one. money,

most likely unnecessary trouble, but it would simply be such a lesson for such figures, and next time with the next employee of a state company or politician, they just thought whether to write outright lies or not to write, eh, good advice , i will actually think about it, but i want to say that, unfortunately, the amount of payments to the head of ukrenergo for... several years is less than, for example, the amount of bribes of the deputy minister of energy for one transaction, and i think that the problem, the main problem is not that telegram channels write lies, some people there who have their youtube channels, there are deputies' mandates spreading, it's that with a high probability, unfortunately, it is done for money. and this money is not taken from

the white salaries of the top management of the companies, but from some apparently shadowy cash flows, and as i said, their scale is obviously much larger than the payments there by the management of ukrenergo or some other energy companies, i have always paid taxes correctly from my salary, i am always on time. i have received only a white salary in my career, and i am very proud of the fact that, relatively speaking, the higher the salary i receive, the more taxes i can pay to the state budget, well, as for lawsuits, let's see, there will be time, maybe we will do it with this, i hope, by the way, that there is such an initiative in the verkhovna rada of ukraine in order to bring out of the shadows the owners or ultimate beneficiaries of those or other telegrams. have millions of subscribers,

more than a million subscribers, just so that everyone understands who is behind it, because if the media has, well, there are certain media that have less influence than individual telegram channels, now 70, more than 70% of ukrainians news they draw from telegram channels, by the way, this is yesterday's information, research, it's just a fact, well, that's why, relatively speaking, the espresso tv channel or the direct tv channel, or the rada tv channel or any other tv channel is answerable to the national commission before the law, well then yes other people themselves also have to answer, because it actually already exists as a means of mass communication. but these rumors must be put to an end, and then we will return to generation and waiting for the autumn-winter period, and they wrote that minister of energy galushchenko may be behind your dismissal, if so, why did this information appear? well, this information,

first of all, i also said in previous interviews that i consider the ministry to be the initiator of this whole situation, i will repeat once again that there is nothing to do with it. with bad or good protection of the ukrenergo substation there is no situation, it is completely absurd, but it is simply a desire to obviously control the operational activities of the company, attempts at such control began back in the 21st year, to control money yes, to control money, to control some, i do not know personnel appointments within the company, and since 21 in the 20th year, active attempts began there to offer me very good... people for various positions in the management of the company, which i rejected, there were attempts to change the management of the company, outside the supervisory board, in the 21st year, already during the invasion and at the height invasions, there were attempts to change

the government once again, there were attempts to dictate, for example, the order of payment of debts on the electricity market , well, that is, they were quite active. attempts to interfere in our activities in this way, with documents, with official letters, orders, and so on, and we never once gave in to these attempts, they stopped at some point, obviously, when people understood that we were dealing with such language there is no point in talking, but numerous inspections began, first a ministerial audit, then the state audit. the service conducted an audit with the participation of representatives of the ministry, then numerous investigations of law enforcement agencies, media, by the way, attacks too, and they did not begin before my dismissal or after my dismissal, they began many months ago, i will remind you that the same lies

were published about my salary of 2 million hryvnias, and in my opinion it was trukha’s telegram channel that actively dispersed this fake, and well, some other things were calculated there, how many air conditioners there are in my house, well, they just published some delusions, but obviously it was such art training, and it is absolutely obvious to me that there were more or less intense attempts to finally get this control over the company, but now it is a paradoxical situation, because due to a rather active reaction of civil society, including our western partners, who entrusted ukrenergo with euro financing during the invasion, this is more than the ministry and other energy companies took together, after this reaction the process stopped, that is, i was fired, my the deputy was appointed by the supervisory board, yes

, oleksiy brecht, he is our technical director, and in fact now there is such a crossroads, that is, either... the normal management system of the company will be restored, when the supervisory board is created, it must have a majority of independent people who supervise according to the company's activities without any regard for any whims of someone there, well, without, let's say, i'm such a good word, i don't know it in ukrainian, it's just that it's not from ukrainian, it's not from ukrainian realities, that's why it sounds so funny. not with ukrainian realities, but still, yes, yes, yes, the question is that the institution of watchers is, conditionally, something that has forever, we must forever forget it in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or,

if you want, civilized, institutions of the civilized world, if we are going there, then we must build such institutions, and of course, we must not forget about... the fact that state-owned companies are the property of society, the property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone , and sometimes officials forget about it and start themselves identify as if with the owner of a state-owned company, and this is exactly what supervisory boards are needed to insulate the company from such a negative possible influence, in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory board in... this function for several years, and i really hope that after the situation with with my dismissal, the new supervisory board that has already been created will be restored, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which

has maintained the power system in extremely difficult conditions for three winters, united with the european nervous system, has done a lot so that strengthen protection that this team will be allowed to work quietly, well, that is, what an interesting time it is now, well, again, we have to understand, there is oleksii brecht on duty. whom you know, about whom you spoke, and the work continues, i understand that the train is moving on the same, the same track without turning anywhere, what is the time for there to be understanding, this person will fulfill his duties to do without this prefix, without this prefix, will they still find some other person, or will this search for your information continue, here it is important to understand that a specialist will come, but it is clear about mr. brecht. this is a person who has 25 years of experience in the energy sector, and there are no questions here, he is one of

the most experienced, most qualified energy workers in this country in general, it is very difficult for me to even imagine someone who could surpass him in terms of competence oleksia, i worked with him for many years side by side, and i can say this absolutely, if we imagined that you and i were in norway, how it would have happened about... would be created a supervisory board consisting of seven members, four, four of whom are independent, now there are no three at all, and yes, four independent members should be elected to this supervisory board, after that the supervisory board conducts an open, public, transparent competition on the head of the company, not according to the criteria of his personal loyalty to someone, not according to the criterion, is he somewhere there, you know? with whom he drank vodka, or with whom he is friends, or who is his relative, and according to the criteria of professionalism, correct

values ​​and his, so to speak, or her opportunities to actually lead the company at this very moment, in which it is, and we are, let me remind you, on the eve of a difficult winter, and according to the results of this competition , a manager, a new manager of the company, will be chosen, whether it will be oleksii or not, or whether there will be oleksii at all apply for this competition or not. these are questions that can only be asked after this new independent supervisory board is created, and that is how i was elected as a manager in 2020, i was elected in a competition where 40 or 50 people participated there, so there was a whole process that lasted for several months, and i won this competition and was appointed in august of the 20th year, that is, four years ago, this is exactly the kind of competition that should be held this time. have you ever had the president call you on your cell phone? no,

no to a mobile phone, but the phone must be official or non-official, there is an official phone, but my communication with the president, as a rule, took place within the framework of some meetings, either away, or in the office of the president, or in as part of rate meetings or other formats, but not through a mobile phone and not through... the official phone of the special communications service, well, to be honest , i doubt that these special communications are being used so actively at the moment, after they mentioned the president, and he said words that are correct in principle, we need to move, build, increase, spread, as they say, to strengthen energy security, the president said that one to 1 hta of gas maneuverable

generation will be built, and then there was a statement , well, this is how the president gives such a plan, and instructions, and there are people who have to implement it, then there was a statement by the minister of energy, he said that we already have 400 mw, and you said in the interview that we have since then plus 60 mw, that is, we understand the difference, but realistically, how much. actually 460 and what needs to be done in order for this, this is the president's mandate for one gigawatt, you said that we lost half of what was last winter, well at least plus one, why not no no done, or what it takes to do it? well first of all how much new decentralized generation has actually been built, not generators near ticket shops, nor ecoflos bought by ukrainians, to which the ministry of energy has nothing to do. namely , the new generation that will work in the power system up to, i emphasize, up to 60 megawatts,

not 60, even, but up to 60 mw, and what is it , just to describe what 60m is, let me explain , we lost, as i said, 9 gw, ugh, that is, 900 mw of new generation has been put into operation today, up to 60 mw connected to the power system has been put into operation, er... er, and about half of them are two such small power plants, let's put it this way, and one of them was connected, these are small, of low power, and one of them was connected to... the network for a year and a half in general, that is, at such rates, if we continue in such a spirit, then we will need, i don’t know , a decade to replace the generation that was destroyed by russian missiles, which was lost this year, but we also lost generation in 22, 23, well, that is,

grease, and thermal power plants coal, these are thermal power plants that operate on... basically, these are these types of stations, so what needs to be done is to stop trying to build decentralized generation in a centralized way by the state, what is decentralized generation, it is when you have 100 small power plants with a capacity of 100 mw instead of one coal-fired power station at 10, conditionally, i say now conditionally, it means rose. this is the same principle that our soldiers use on the battlefield: dispersion, no one tries to accumulate 100 tanks, 200 armored fighting vehicles cars and 400 people in one place, on one parking lot, right? similarly, in energy, energy is under fire from the enemy, under

fire from the enemy, so it must be dispersed accordingly. in order to do this, it is necessary to involve the private sector. capital, not to try to build hundreds of small power plants with the help of state-owned companies, simply giving them a command: you need to build 100 mw, you need to build 300, you need 200, go and do it, and how you do it, no one is interested, of course, you need to create the conditions for for private capital to start massively investing in new ukrainian generation, this is definitely a task facing the ministry of energy. as a ministry specialized in this field, and it is, strictly speaking, responsible for the score on the scoreboard. on december 31 , 2024, we will see this score on the scoreboard, so far this score is not very impressive, and what worries me the most is an obvious

attempt to embellish reality from the rostrum of the parliament or in public space, talking about some... hundreds of megawatts of new generation, no hundreds of megawatts of new decentralized generation, to what extent i understand, they are trying to add to this number: the restoration of broken thermal power plants from the soviet era, some generators, diesel generators that are installed in the regions at boiler houses, at small pumping stations, but this is not generation, these are power sources after the outages began, they . the power system does not work, well, in the daily mode, so we are talking only about those power plants that will essentially replace the coal-fired power plants and thermal power plants that were destroyed by the enemy, and , unfortunately, we have several dozen of such metro stations should work on what, on different types of fuel, on gas, of course,

this is such a traditional fuel for modern heat generation, but i will just ask right away, i... i heard a statement in the government, in my opinion, this was a whip, but i'm afraid to lie, i just remembered that this year we plan to spend on gas from our own production, i'm just leading to the fact that if we build these dozens of power plants, then buy gas, again the price of this gas and all that then it will be included in the price, when a private investor will do it, he already knows what it is the price of electricity today on the wholesale market is not for the population, it has nothing to do with tariffs for the population, it has to do with... prices for business, so today there is a price for business, there is a price for gas, accordingly today, burning gas in modern gas turbine, gas piston power plant, you can sell electricity from this gas at a profit, yes, and private business, by the way, is very actively ready to invest in these things, and we at ukrenergo have been engaged in

creating conditions for private business in recent months, so that private business investo. in the new ukrainian generation, in particular, what we did with the energy regulator nkrkp, the liberalization of prices on this wholesale market for business and the long-term contracts that ukrenergo concludes with investors for five years, buying the service from these future power plants from 25- th to the 30th year, thus the investor clearly understands how to pay off his project, he has a firm contract. with a large state company, with an energy system operator, and he can bring this contract to the bank and take it loan, invest, get a profit on your investment, pay off the loan and get a suitable one.

but only two auctions of ukrenergo for these services gave 600 mw to those willing to build, which will start building right now, this is private business, but in the sector we still see much more modest results, and i think that the bet should still be placed on private business , because how much to build has been known for a long time, back in the 23rd year at the beginning we talked about the need to build decentralized generation, about that by the way talked a lot in the press, that's it, but then another vision of energy development was brought to the london recovery conference, some kind of gigantomania, where it was necessary to build,

invest 400 billion euros of investments, build 300 gw of new capacities, well, western investors looked at it, they said, sorry , these plans are unrealistic, you are talking about some space, fantasies, we are business people, and we invest money in real projects, not in someone's dreams. there are dreams and so on and we lost time in any case, here we are now concluding, as they say, let's get as close as possible to the people who are either warm or cold on this earth, here we have to live, i understand that in any case we are going through this winter, plus or minus some tens or hundreds of megawatts will be added there with what is now, here you have already said about this year, that is , it is clear that we will restore traditions on traditional generation, but i will prove that as you advise people, well, it is so easy to prepare, so what to buy at home, maybe there is some sbb diesel generator is big to buy, i believe

that if there is no sharp increase the intensity of russian shelling, that is, we cannot say that they will not occur at all, but it is important that there will not be a sharp increase in intensity, that they will not be three or five times greater and more frequent, we will have such a situation that in ... in the warm periods of winter conditionally +2 there, well, up to -5 you said zero -1 there will be blackouts or minimal or none at all in the cold periods of winter -5 -7 especially -10 -15 consumption will increase so much that it will not be physically possible collect enough generation to cover it even then outages can be, what scale they will be, well, this is a guess on the coffee grounds, but... we can say that the deficit may be similar to some kind of summer deficit, ugh, that is, it is not august or august, it

depends a lot, again, how many power plants will recover, what will be the import of electricity, because in july we also did not use imports, unfortunately, at full capacity, we did not import everything that we could have imported, unfortunately, because of the price, but, well, this is also a matter of industry leaders how to... bake full filling imports in the winter, and i would like to say, by the way , that the poles, the polish prime minister, in particular, proposed to attract polish power plants to work in ukraine in the winter, and it seems to me that this project should be dealt with objectively very much, for that , so that we get a few more 100 mw, that is , the use of that imported capacity, which... ukrainian energy provides, but which , unfortunately, is not used, less than a minute, i can't help but ask this question, do you already have an understanding of what you will be engaged further in life? i have approximately the following, i.e.

public service, private business, writing a book, going to travel there, supporting the armed forces of ukraine, in any way, i can say for sure that i will be in ukraine, we were engaged in supporting the armed forces very objectively at ukrenergo, and we supported. by more than 350 million there over the past year and a half, and of course due to my much more modest capabilities, i will also do this, but i would like to work in one or more of the following areas, this is investment attraction, this is european integration, because we in fact, in the 22nd year, ukrainergo was brought into the electric energy eu, and i believe that this experience can be replicated throughout the country. here is the transformation of our energy system, here is the development of this new decentralized generation, it will essentially mean a new

ukrainian energy system, a cheaper one. cleaner, more resistant to russian attacks, in what format i will realize myself in these three areas, time will tell, i think the next weeks-months, but i would definitely like to work in these areas, and for today i don't see a big request for this from the public sector yet, so for now i'll be... staying out of it, thank you very much, many questions, maybe not the last conversation, because there's actually a lot to talk about, it's very interesting, important the topic, in principle, to explain, explain, point out the problems and, most importantly, their ways, their overcoming and solutions. volodymyr kudrytskyi was with us, he is the ex-head of the private company, the national energy company ukrenergo, was with us in the 20s and 20s, but you

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