magathe, well, 150 have gathered now for the 68th, it seems, general conference in vienna, so everything is fine, magathe can make such statements, and it is our task for ukraine to make as many such statements, resolutions, fixing documents as possible for two purposes: firstly, this is a constant process of pressure on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to be released, because it is in danger due to the occupation now, first of all, and also the people who work there, the russians were not able to start their own, replace the ukrainians there , and there people keep it all professionals just so that it does not exploded, that is, everything has been going on for the third year, so everything is very complicated, this is the question, and the second question is the responsibility for these crimes afterwards, it is still necessary to consider the convention on nuclear terrorism, that is, this still has not been reached, why didn't they come, here i will tell you, a very good

example, the resolution, the president stated, i see, the prime minister stated, everyone made statements, in fact, in fact, this is just an example when the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine works correctly, uh, you have to give due to mr. tsimbaliuk, when he was in vienna, engaged in this as a representative, and now, when we had an absolutely unjustified pause with the appointment of a representative in vienna, he took it from kyiv, and under, i think, the minister. the new one can also see it, he paid attention to these issues, and the work began, a week ago, they worked there for a week in difficult conditions, i remind you that there are still elections for another body of the magat, in addition to the general conference, there is also a board of governors, 11 new countries were chosen, as far as i know, we met with these countries, that is, normal work went on diplomatic, so i have a big question, if we can do this here, and the ministry of foreign affairs can...

why do we have a delegation in the governing council of the magats that does not cope with its tasks, as we see what can be achieved, why then, well okay, why let it be decided in the office, the minister of energy is in charge, they go there a couple of times to vienna, the point is, you know, not that the minister of energy has a task here in ukraine, we have a winter that we do not know how to pass, and the minister of energy of vienna is visiting here, i would first change well... at least japarova, who is not there today, is no longer working, was replaced by tsimbalyuk in the delegation of the board of governors, and the second would still be considered based on the results of the work, i would consider replacing the head of the delegation, this is a task that will increase efficiency, here is a concrete example, how they worked well in this particular case, but the russians work constantly, with money, the russian representative meets and has dinner every week, well, i don't know, he has dinner there every week. and ours can

have dinner, talk, maybe only the ambassador, but there is no ambassador, we don’t have one, so that’s it these are simple questions, they add efficiency and should be resolved, i think that this issue is already overdue, a diplomat should be in charge of the council, this is the first thing, and now at least give the representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of the authorized representative more resources, work opportunities, he showed. mr. valery, at the very end of our long conversation, i would like to show you and the tv viewers a fragment from an interview with ukrainian pravda by kateryna maternova, the eu ambassador to ukraine, who says that it is a realistic forecast that ukraine can join the european union by the end of this decade. let's hear what she said. i have already said in an interview

before, and i will repeat, i believe that the goal set by president michel, ukraine's accession to the eu by the end of this decade, is realistic. yes, i think it is real, but joining the eu, and this must be realized, is not only a technical process of membership negotiations, which of course also takes time, but it is also a political ratification in all member countries, so what does the entry of a new member mean. changing the eu treaty, so it should be ratified in the format required by each of the countries of the european union, and this always takes a certain amount of time, for example, during the 2004 enlargement, it took about one and a half years, well, that is, mr. valery, there are 6 years ahead, if, if we go beyond this deadline , that by the end of this decade, six years are for us to go through all the procedures for... to the european

union, will we go through it so quickly, given the claims of some of our neighbors on various issues? first, without joining nato or. some way of guaranteeing the safety of this umbrella from russia , there are no further prospects, no eu will help this situation, the eu is not involved in this, there are no effective levers in the security sphere, so i look at it calmly, on the contrary, i think that the statements of the prime minister, that we have to enter by the end of next year, they sound more threatening to me than what ms. maternova said that we have time because... actually the way to the eu is i understand that we accept the rules of the european union , but still , there must be some kind of adaptation, our farmers, many of our manufacturers are not ready for this simply for today, and politically it is just to be in the eu, well, it is important, but when you have not provided security, then it does not give anything, so i

look at it calmly, i think that it is closer there to ms. maternova before the dates, because this is just the budget of the european union, in order for there to be an expansion. the budget must be calculated, you understand, and the 30th year is simply tied to the procedures of the european union, that's all, and what ours declare there, that next year in two years, it's like absolutely unrealistic plans, that is why i am alarmed by the political part, yes, that is, in principle, it is correctly said that there should be ratification, but if it is meant that ukraine alone unilaterally accepts all political demands, starting from historical memory, starting from from the game'. there to give up their heroes, that, or there, as hungarians demand something new every time, well, this, you know, this is the kind of blackmail that we should not allow to use the negotiations with the eu on chapters on joining the european union, as a political

tool for our neighbors, i would he said, well, mainly these are neighbors, i.e. poland and hungary, i.e. slovakia, we will see all of this, and there will be... new liras, leaders, politicians, there will be elections and they will keep us constantly, you know the bait, what is that you want to be in the eu, then give it to us, you need it, so i would now focus on nato, on security, poes said to our partners, listen, integration into the eu is a two-way street, and let's yes, ukraine is in a hurry, taking its time, working calmly. over the negotiating position, we are political decisions accepted, ukraine will be in the eu, we are a candidate, we will calmly work on the working bureaucratic agenda, and nato is an issue that needs to be resolved this or next year, that is the key issue here. thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation, it was

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glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on the tv channel, the west studio program. we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will carefully analyze president zelensky's peace plan and how it works will meet in various diplomatic and government offices, overseas and european. at the same time, we will... about how the west will adjust its concept of war, taking into account the fact that the armed forces of ukraine raised the level of escalation by destroying the strategic warehouses of the russian federation in the territory of the tver region, and we will talk, of course, about the impact of the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine . average muscovites. today's guests of zahid studio are metiya bryza and dmytro oreshkin. espresso tv channel is now on the air will work matthew bryza, former adviser to the secretary of state of the united states, former director of european and eurasian affairs

at the us national security council. glory to ukraine, dear mr. ambassador, i welcome you to the espresso studio. well, extremely important signals. i emphasize that signals come from us both from mass media and from certain diplomatic sources. we understand that a very tough war is going on, our fighters are in the territory. of the russian federation in the kursk region, an extremely bloody operation in the pokrov direction, when we talk about the russian interventionists, and at the same time, we regularly hear one or another reports about the so-called peace talks and possible one or other agreements, let them not be immediate direct agreements, but in any case talk about the so-called possible package vision, and most importantly, ukraine will present to the leadership of the united states, in particular to president joseph biden, a ukrainian peace plan

in order to put pressure on russia, the aggressor state. how do you see the situation? yes, we are we know that president zelensky is going to present his peace plan to president biden, and there's a lot of anticipation, at least outside the white house, with keyer starmer visiting washington recently, and... yes, secretary of state david lamy and secretary of state anthony blinken visited president zelensky, important decisions from the usa and great britain were expected, it was expected. that the leaders may allow ukraine to use missiles to attack and storm shadow on targets deep in russia territory, but this has not yet been announced. the us president 's national security advisor, jake sullivan, was recently asked about this clearance, and he simply said: "i can't make any announcement at this time. that doesn't mean that the clearance hasn't been given, or that

it won't be given. it just means that the united states currently, the momentum in the biden administration and the starmer administration in london seems to be moving towards supporting president zelenskyi's peace plan, helping ukraine defend itself against russian attacks from using cruise bombs and ballistic missiles, and i believe that this is a positive momentum. dear mr. ambassador, we understand that this is not about political analysis, yes, because there are many components of this process that i am leaving out. confidential or secret, and perhaps even not developed. but if we take a general approach to such things, in your opinion, what parameters could be considered, what kind of plan could this potential peace plan be, taking into account the fact that the aggressor state is against peace negotiations and they want fixation on the ground, that is, they want

to control our captured territories, what about those who could be the parameters of what is called... this is a negotiated peace process. i will say that i do not have access to president zelensky's plan, since i live here in turkey, but it is clear that a large part of it is that the russian armed forces must withdraw from all the ukrainian territory they occupied, including crimea and donbas. undoubtedly, russia should recognize the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. unfortunately, i don't know which one a place in peace. in zelenskyi's plan, it will be devoted to the strategic orientation of ukraine in the future. as early as march 22, there were rumors about not-so-secret negotiations taking place in istanbul between representatives of ukraine and russia. they reportedly included ukraine declaring political or geostrategic neutrality, which would mean that ukraine

would not be pressured to join nato, as well as a cease-fire when... russia withdraws all of its troops that entered ukraine during the second invasion in february 22nd year. the issue of the legal status of donbass and crimea should be postponed for about 15 years. maybe that's part of the plan, though i doubt it. of course, the core of zelenskyi's perspective is a ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of russian troops, what he is willing to offer instead, as an incentive for russia, i don't know. well, there are two in total. certain administrations of president biden, perhaps in the approaches, so on the one hand we understand that in london, perhaps in some other progressive western capitals, they understand that russia can be forced only by destroying certain of its power, military, logistical , and so on, that is, if russia were to weaken, it could go to one or another negotiation, yes,

because what they put on the diplomatic table is, in simple language, called an ultimatum with... restraint for now occupied territories. the russians would like to take at least 30% of our territories and make us a non-aligned state under the control of the russian federation. yes, this is one story. on the other hand, in washington they understand if it will be possible to shake up the russian economy and to destroy the russian military machine, accordingly , this may force putin to revise one or another of his demands. but... there are also big powerful players: china, brazil, india and the so- called big global south, so they too would like to achieve certain results at our ukrainian expense, right? and accordingly, in my opinion, that is why the so-called course operation was launched, because the russians constantly talked about the realities on the ground, and the realities on

the ground are now such that we hold part of the territory of the russian federation under military control, respectively, the brazilian-chinese plan, suffered a certain actual fiasco. maybe i'm wrong, and accordingly, if we talk about zelenskyi's plan, we said, let's now talk about joseph biden's plan, how can we stop the russian bear if we lack long-range missile systems, aviation and the appropriate permissions from the united states use it to destroy russian military facilities. first of all, i think chinese or brazilian plans don't matter at all, what matters is whether the united states, great britain and other nato allies will provide. ukraine needs opportunities to weaken the russian armed forces to such a level that russia simply cannot continue its policy. as i mentioned at the beginning of our interview,

in my opinion, ukraine urgently needs permission to use atakams and storm shadow long-range missiles deep in russian territory. the recent attack in the west of tver oblast in the city of toropets was a spectacular drone strike that caused huge... explosions all over city, the destruction of warehouses of ballistic missiles, glider bombs and other ammunition clearly affected russia's ability to carry out attacks using these weapons on the territory of ukraine. whether ukraine will be able to achieve similar success with attack and stormshadow missiles remains to be seen. it seems logical that ukraine has been able to achieve significant results using drones, which are much easier to shoot down. she can do even more with atakams and stormshadow ballistic missiles, as well as cruise missiles to potentially weaken russia's ability to continue the war.

according to british military intelligence, citing the ukrainian general staff, russia is losing more than 1,100 soldiers killed or wounded every day, and as of today it has suffered more than 610,000 casualties. this level of casualties is unacceptable in the long term, although putin can pro... continue to throw people into battle, these forces are under-qualified and under- prepared. in eastern ukraine, the attack on pokrovsk is of great importance, and if pokrovsk is captured, it will become serious a blow to ukraine's operations in the region. however , it is unlikely that russia will be able to take advantage of any breakthroughs in the east due to a lack of the necessary equipment and personnel. even if putin shows confidence, it seems unlikely that russia is capable. to end the war on his own terms. yes, this is extremely important, but the key story is how to get putin to stop demanding peace from us at our expense. you understand what

the most dangerous situation is. putin regularly bombards us. putin raises the level of aggression, they are trying to keep it at the current level only in order to tear us out of this bloody agreement on something. it will not be, unless, of course, it is from the united states of great britain, france. and so on, very clear negotiation parameters will be set, and we understand that at one time, when putin met with president joseph biden, he offered him to divide the world, it was a few years ago, accordingly, we in ukraine understand that there is currently an attempt to transform world, the struggle for major geopolitical influences continues, yes, but the key task, so that it is not at the expense of ukraine, so that it is not at the expense of our state and... territories yes, well, how do you think the leading players will play now, yes, because if putin even agrees to certain

negotiations , so that it is not at the expense of ukraine, maybe he is interested in something in africa, maybe something in the pacific basin or in the indian ocean, but not at the expense of ukraine and our internationally recognized borders. i do not think that this is about some big geopolitical agreement. in which western leaders propose concessions to president putin anywhere in the world. washington works to solve every problem, such as this war, as a separate issue. the us is taking a problem-solving approach, not a broad geopolitical strategy, as the russians might imagine. for washington, it is absolutely necessary that the war ends on terms acceptable to ukraine. otherwise, president putin will continue his aggression. the next one can be. moldova, followed by georgia, and possibly both countries at the same time. if putin is not stopped in these countries, he can threaten the eastern members of nato. such is the intention to end the war before

taking office. however, he may propose a deal that would require ukraine to give up territory in exchange for peace. ultimately, ukraine itself must decide on its own course. this makes it more urgent than ever to allow the ukrainian government to use weapons. greater range in the depths of russian territory, because this will make it difficult for russia to carry out attacks on ukrainian infrastructure and the civilian population. finally, in august in zmi there were speculations about negotiations between russia and ukraine regarding the cessation of attacks on each other's energy infrastructure, probably mediated by qatar. i think these talks are still going on, although putin may not want it to look like he's giving in to ukraine. pressure after ukraine's invasion of kurdsk. the fact that these negotiations are ongoing indicates that putin is looking for ways to de-escalate, given the high price that russia is paying, even

if... putin pretends that he is ready to make any sacrifices. dear mr. ambassador bryza, but ukraine also has the opportunity to raise the level of escalation. extremely important strikes on the military warehouses of the russian federation in the tver region demonstrated that we can use drones to inflict devastating blows on our enemy. and we understand that the level of escalation can be raised not only by the kremlin, but also by ukraine. and the kremlin prefers all this. did not wait, and we understand that if the drone army will practice, the ukrainian drone army, practice military targets on the territory of the russian federation, the russians, ordinary russians will also feel the burden of the war, but putin is betting on something else, putin is betting on the destruction of our energy industry during the winter, on enormous suffering, possibly mass deaths and the death of our people, on the exodus, on the exit of a large

part of the citizens of ukraine from .. of our territory and after that in the spring he could offer one or other things, this is putin's plan. it worries me that in all western capitals this matter is understood, and accordingly, but the pace of providing us with military aid is not fast enough, are not satisfactory, and accordingly, the biden administration understands that putin wants to destroy our energy, so that the winter will be tragic, the kremlin is doing it, in delhi they understand it, in berlin. and london also understands in paris, but at the moment we see this putin's plan, the only thing that remains from the ukrainian side is to maintain and maybe even exceed the level of escalation in some ways, that's how it is. we have already touched on these issues and i completely agree with the premise of your question. fear of escalation really prevented the biden administration from granting permission to use weapons deep into russian territory. lack of such

permission. only allows and encourages putin to continue destroying ukraine's energy infrastructure. it is obvious that london wants to convince washington to grant ukraine permission for more effective protection. while attacks on ukraine's energy infrastructure continue, discussions appear to be underway that could lead to an agreement whereby ukraine and russia would stop attacking each other's energy infrastructure. it could be a constructive step towards changing the momentum and direction. in addition, ukraine's success in advancing into russian-held territory to protect its northern regions, especially around sumy, has changed the psychology of the conflict, from a perceived stalemate to one where ukraine is perceived as a capable and innovative state. the recent drone strike in the western tver region, which was directed against russian warehouses of ammunition, missiles and cluster bombs, demonstrates

ukraine's declining effectiveness. russia's ability to inflict strike ukraine with these devastating weapons, even with much less powerful drones compared to atakams and storm shadow missiles. i certainly expect that washington and london will give permission and as soon as ukraine starts using these more effective weapons, i am convinced that we will see a change in the momentum of the war in favor of ukraine. here's what might make putin more ready to... look, the president of the united states , joseph biden, doesn't have much time left in office. fortunately, he is now personally does not experience the election campaign. he does not go to pennsylvania and assure that he has a peace plan. the key task of president joseph biden is to enter history, i don't know how winston churchill once entered when...