in fact, there is such a crossroads now, that is, either the normal system of company management will be restored, when the supervisory board is created, it must have a majority of independent people who supervise the company's activities without any, without regard to any whims of someone else, let's say, there is such a good word, i don't know, it's in ukrainian. it's just that this word is not from ukrainian, not from ukrainian realities, that's why it sounds so smotryachy and from ukrainian realities, but it still remains so , the question is that the institution of smotryachy - this is conditionally something that has forever, we must forever forget it in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or if you want, civilized institutions of the civilized world, if we go there... then it is precisely such

institutions that we need to build, and of course one must not forget that state-owned companies are public property, the property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone, and sometimes officials forget this and begin to identify themselves as if they were the owner of a state-owned company, and this is why supervisors are needed advice to insulate the company from such a negative possible. influence, in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory board performed this function for several years, and i really hope that after the situation with my dismissal, the new supervisory board that has already been created will be restored, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which has already lasted three winters the energy system in extremely difficult conditions, was combined with the european... system

, a lot was done to strengthen the protection, that this team would be allowed to work calmly, well, that is, what time, i wonder, is now, well once again, we must understand that there is oleksii brecht, who you know, about whom you mentioned, and the work continues, i understand that the train is moving on the same, the same track without turning anywhere, what is the time for... there was an understanding that this person will perform his duties without this prefix or without this prefix, will they still find some other person and will these searches for your information continue here, it is important to understand that a specialist will come about mr. brecht is clear it is very difficult for a person who has 25 years of experience in the energy sector and, well, there are no questions, he is one of the most experienced and most qualified energy workers in this country in general. well, i can

imagine even finding someone who could surpass oleksiy in terms of competence, i worked with him for many years, shoulder to shoulder, i can say this absolutely for sure, if we imagined that you and i were in norway, how would the process go, and a supervisory board should be created, consisting of seven members, two of whom are absent, four of whom are absent independents, now there are not three at all, but uh, four independents should be elected. members of this supervisory board, after that the supervisory board conducts an open, public, transparent competition for the head of the company, not by the criterion of his personal loyalty to someone, not by the criterion of whether he is somewhere, you know, with whom he drank vodka, or with whom he is friends, or who is his relative, and according to the criteria of professionalism, correct values ​​and his, so to speak... or her

ability to actually lead the company at this very moment, in which it is, and we we are, let me remind you, on the eve of a difficult winter, and based on the results of this competition , a manager, a new head of the company, should be chosen, whether it will be oleksiy or not, whether oleksiy will even apply for this competition or not, these are questions that can be asked only after this new independent supervisory board is created, and that's how in 2020 i was... elected as a leader, i was elected in a competition where there were 40 or 50 people, that was the whole process , which lasted for several months, and i won this competition and was there was appointed in august of the 20th year, that is, four years ago, this is exactly the kind of competition that should be held this time, have you had cases when the president called you on a mobile phone, no , not on a mobile phone, and the same phone must be an official or and not a service office phone.

yes, but my communication with the president took place, as a rule, within the framework of some meetings, either outside, or in the office of the president, or within the framework of meetings of the stake or others. some formats, but not through a mobile phone and not through the office phone of special communications, well, i at all, honestly saying, i doubt that these special forces are being used so actively at the moment, after mentioning the president, and he said words that are, in principle, correct, we need to move, but to build, increase, spread, as it were... they say, this to strengthen energy security, the president said that one to 1 hta of gas shunting power generation will be built, and then there was a statement, well, it’s from the president, that’s how the plan and instructions are given, and there are people

who have to implement it, then there was a statement minister of energy, said that we already have 400 mw, and you said in an interview that since then we have plus 60 mv, that is, we understand the difference, but realistically, how much is 460, and what needs to be done in order for this, this is the president's order regarding one gigawatt, you said that we lost half of what was last winter, well, at least plus one, why is it not done, or what is needed to do it? well , first of all, how many new decentralized generation, not generators, have actually been built. near the ticket offices, no ecoflo, bought by ukrainians, to which the ministry of energy has nothing to do, namely, new generation that will work in the power system up to, i emphasize, up to 60 mw, not even 60, but up to 60 mw. and what is a sweat just to belittle what 60 mw is, i will explain,

as i said, we lost 9 gw, i.e. 900 mw. the new generation has been put into operation today under up to 60 mw were included in the power system, yes, and about half, these are two such small power plants, let's say so, and one of them was connected, it small, of low power, and one of them has been connected to the network for a year and a half, in general, that is, at such rates, if we continue in this spirit, then we will need, i don't know, a decade. to replace the generation that was destroyed by russian missiles, which was lost this year, but we also lost generation in 22 and 23 , well, that is, this is also grease, and these are coal-fired thermal power plants, these are gas-fired thermal power plants,

mainly these this is a kind of station, so what needs to be done, needs to be stopped to try in a centralized way... to build a decentralized generation by the forces of the state, what is a decentralized generation, it is when instead of one coal plant with a capacity of 100 mw, you have 100 small power plants with a capacity of 10, conditionally, i say now conditionally, this means decentralization , this is the same principle that our soldiers use on the battlefield, dispersion, no one tries to accumulate 100 tanks, 200 armored fighting vehicles and 400 people in one place, on one training ground, however, the same is true in energy, the energy sector is under enemy fire, under enemy fire, accordingly it must be dispersed, in order to do this, it is necessary to attract private capital, not

to try to build hundreds of small power plants with the help of state-owned companies, simply giving them a command, you need to build 100 megawatts, you 300, you have 200. go and do it, and how you do it, no one is interested, of course, it is necessary to create conditions for private capital to start massively investing in the new ukrainian generation, this is definitely a task facing the ministry of energy, as a ministry specialized in this field, and it is, strictly speaking, responsible for the score on the scoreboard, 12/31/2024. we will see this score on the scoreboard, so far this score is not very impressive, and what worries me the most is an obvious attempt to embellish the reality there from the rostrum of the parliament or in the public space, talking about hundreds of megawatts of new

generation, no hundreds of megawatts of new there is no decentralized generation, as far as i understand, they are trying to add to this figure the restoration of broken thermal power plants. headquarters even in soviet times, some generators, diesel generators, which are installed in the regions at boiler houses, at small pumping stations, but this is not generation. these are power sources after the outages began, they do not work on the power system, well, in the daily mode, so we are talking only about those power plants that, in fact, will replace those coal-fired and thermal power plants that were destroyed by the enemy, and we have such, on alas, several dozen of these power plants have to work on what? on different types of fuel, on gas, yes, of course, this is such a tradition. fuel for modern heat generation, and i’ll just ask right away, i heard a statement just in the government,

in my opinion it was sly, but i’m afraid to lie, i just remembered that this year we plan to run on gas from our own production, i’m just leading to that , that if you build dozens of power plants, then buy gas, again the price of this gas and all that will fall, and when a private investor does it, he already knows what the price of electricity is. today on the market in wholesale, not for the public, it has nothing to do with it to the tariffs for the population, it is related to the prices for business, today there is a price for business, there is a price for gas, accordingly today , by burning gas in a modern gas turbine, gas piston power plant, you can sell electricity from this gas at a profit, ugh, and private business, by the way, i am very actively ready to invest in these things, and we at ukrenergo in recent months have been engaged in... creating conditions for private business, so that private business invests in new ukrainian

generation, in particular, what we have done with the energy regulator from ncp, liberalization prices on this wholesale market for business and long-term contracts that ukrenergo concludes with investors for 5 years, purchasing the service from these power plants from the 25th to the 30th year. how the investor clearly understands how to pay off his project. he has a firm contract with a large state-owned company, with an energy system operator, and he can bring this contract to the bank, take a loan, invest, get a profit on his investment, pay off the loan and get a corresponding profit, such contracts are now concluded on 600 mw, well, according to the results of the two auctions, i will not ask about the work, because again, we will not. e companies are given one year, this is a realistic term, one year to deploy

new systems, er, electricity production, as well as energy storage systems, these are battery systems, the so-called battery storage, which are also very necessary for the energy system for balancing, but only two ukrenergo auctions for these services yielded 600 mw of those willing to build, which will start building right now, this is a private business, but... well, in the sector we still see more modest many results, and i think that the bet should still be placed on private business, because how much to build has been known for a long time, back in the 23rd year at the beginning we talked about the need to build decentralized generation, about that by the way they talked a lot in the press, but then another vision of the development of energy was brought to the london conference on recovery, some kind of gigantomania, where it was necessary to build and invest four. new capacities, well, western

investors looked at it, they said: sorry, these plans are unrealistic, you say about some space, fantasies, we are business people, and we invest money in real projects, not in someone's dreams, there are dreams and so on, and we lost time, in any case, now we are finishing, as they say, let's get as close as possible to... people who either need to warm up or be cold this winter, we need to prepare here, i understand that in any case we are going through this winter, plus or minus some tens or hundreds of megawatts will be added with that , what is now, here you already said about this year, that is, you understood that we will restore traditions on the traditional generation, i i will prove that as you advise people, it is so easy to prepare, so what to buy at home, can the sb buy a large diesel generator there, i think that if there is not... a sharp increase in the intensity of russian shelling, that is, we cannot say that they are not will be

at all, but it is important that there will not be a sharp increase in intensity, that they will not be three or five times larger and more frequent, we will have such a situation that in the warm periods of winter, conditionally +2, there you are up to minus 5 they said zero, minus one, there will be blackouts or minimal, or they will not be at all in cold weather. otzami -5 -7 especially -10 -15 consumption will increase so much that it will not be physically possible to collect enough generation to cover it, ugh, and... then there may be outages, what scale they will be, well, this is a guess on coffee grounds, but we can say that the deficit may be similar to some kind of summer deficit, ugh, that is, it is not july or august, it depends a lot, again, how many power plants will be restored, what will be the import of electricity, because in july we also have

imports were not used, unfortunately, to their full capacity, we did not import all that we could have imported. because of the price, yes, but that is also a question for the leaders of the industry, how to ensure the complete filling of imports in winter, and i want to say by the way that and remind that the poles, the polish prime minister, in particular, proposed to involve polish power plants in work for ukraine in the winter, and it seems to me that we need to work very hard on this project in order to get a few hundred more. megawatt ee from the use of that imported capacity, which, which is provided by ukrenergo there, but which , unfortunately, is not used, less than a minute, i can't help but ask this question, do you already have an understanding of what you will do later in life, i have approximate ones, that is, this is a public service, private business, i don't know, write a book, travel

there, support the armed forces of ukraine, whatever, i can definitely say that i will be in ukraine. we dealt with the support of the armed forces very objectively at ukrenergo and we supported them more than 350 million there for the last one and a half years, and of course due to my much more modest capabilities, i will also do this, but i would like to work in one or more of the following areas, this is investment attraction, this is european integration, because in fact, in the 22nd year, we brought er... ukrenergo in the electric power eu, and i believe that this experience can be replicated for the whole country, that is the transformation of our energy system, that is the development of this new decentralized generation, it will essentially mean a new ukrainian energy system, cheaper, more clean, more resistant to russian attacks,

the format in which i will realize myself in these three directions will show, i think, in the coming weeks and months, but for sure i would like to work in these directions, and to date i do not see yet a big request for this from the public sector, so i'll be out of it for now, thank you very much, many questions, maybe not the last conversation, because actually there is a lot to talk about, it's a very interesting, important topic, basically a... explain , clarify, point out problems and, most importantly, ways of their own their overcoming and solution. volodymyr kudrytskyi was with us, he is the ex-head of the private company, the national energy company ukrenergo in the 20-24 years, and you stay with the espresso tv channel. it will be interesting later.

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that the russians know very well, and they skillfully use this, and we are trying to counteract everything somehow, but here is the last high-profile case with a tape of russians in the war turned out so far , unfortunately, not in our favor, but we we continue the struggle, and actually we will talk like this, with korniy hrytsyuk, with a director who shoots a lot of different absolutely documentary films, in particular, he filmed a project of conversations with russian prisoners, there are simply highly masterpiece interviews that really need to be shown somewhere at various film festivals , so that the public there still understands what illusions it is in regarding the russian military, well, let's talk with korniy about the tape that is being shown right now. and in luxembourg and promise to show in other festivals-shows in the world, her name is zzinema, and she talks about how russia actually used

some propagandistic elements in cinema, more precisely, how it used cinema to sow propaganda for its domestic audience, there are also many surprises, i think, waiting for such an audience human enough, as they say. constantly at home, here we at kornia will ask how they reacted to this tape there, for example, the audience was different, different, how they reacted, for example, to the description of the film "brothers brat-2" with all the moments that take place there, but now let us consider the situation in order, i will remind you about this tape in general, where it started, anastasia trofima, now we can see her, a director who positions herself as a russian-canadian. and she filmed for world broadcasters, but she also filmed for russia there, she shot quite a lot of films and visited combat operations, and here

she filmed a documentary called russians at war, and here she tells that now we can too excerpts from this film to see, and she tells that she met a military man on the train, a ukrainian who is fighting on the side of the dnr, and he says, let's anastasia come... to us and film our war, no problem - says anastasia, and for seven months, and she is filming this war , there she is just the same person, and she sits there for 7 months completely unnoticed by various special services and simply communicates with the military and films them, and then edits a tape of all this and sends it to an innovative film festival, where it goes in a non-competitive program, by the way together with our... film, or with our two, more precisely, tapes, and there she receives a lot of positive feedback, we are ukrainians, our ukrainian girls, producers, directors,

who went to the venice film festival to present their films, by the way, filmed without state funding, and they watched this film, the producer daria basel wrote a review, and this started a disturbance in our country, this disturbance grew into such a whole wave, because diplomats got involved, and diplomats in canada got involved, because then this film was supposed to be shown at a prestigious festival in toronto, and there... our consul also, and khrystia friniland, the minister, they started to make some statements, but the film was initially canceled due to protests by ukrainians, but then the screenings were resumed after, well these were some special screenings, they were not planned, and what is special, there is such a publication as the hollywood reporter, it is one of the most prestigious american

publications in principle and... one of the most prestigious, which is devoted to cinematography, and it publishes material on from from the position of the general director of this film festival in toronto, and here, and whose name is cameron bailey, and he begins to tell the fears and horrors of how the poor, the unfortunate at this film festival were scared of the ukrainian protests, because these were not just protests, they were aggressive protests, says bailey, on the one hand, he says, well, we... want to understand the feelings of ukrainians, what's up, but we've been sent threats of violence and even sexual violence, and this already crosses all boundaries, but these, but he did not present no evidence of this sexual violence, by the way, which ukrainian protesters in canada allegedly threatened , various ukrainian filmmakers, in principle, people in social networks, have already begun to assume that quite... maybe someone

wrote in some comments like, what if you felt it, how are you being raped by these russian soldiers, maybe you would not treat them so leniently with the heroes of this film, i mean, and maybe they are canadian, but the directors of this festival took it as a threat of sexual violence, well, let's listen to mr. cameron for the most part, everything was civil and peaceful, but... some of the threats were horrific. tiv employees received hundreds of verbal abuses in e-mails and phone calls. our employees also received threats of violence, including sexual violence. it's terrifying and our employees are understandably scared. terribly scared. mr. bailey also says that there were two additional screenings of this film, that there were some in...

security measures, because they were also scared, that the film crew will be attacked by ukrainian protesters and, i don't know, will commit sexual violence against them, obviously, and it should also be noted, unfortunately, that now we can possibly look at how ukrainian protesters are protesting, if we all haven't seen it, we can also state, unfortunately, that the canadian, american, and in general... north american and world press, for the most part, have such positive feedback about this russian tape, well, clearly propagandistic, but one of the most fair arguments against our protests is that most of the protesters did not watch this tape, well, you and i did not watch it either, we simply trust the point of view of our female filmmakers who saw it in venice at the venice

film festival, and well, judge. or from the theses in this film, well, it's really propaganda, because the theses, well, they're just very standard, what exactly are these theses that they use for the western audience, what i mean, it's this whole situation where, well, people don't guilty, let's feel sorry for these soldiers, yes they are look how uneducated they are, they are kind of weak, but they were forced to fight, they may not fully understand, they are also unfortunate people, the politicians are to blame, and so on, this is the whole song that we... know very well, because moreover, anastasia trofimova says at the beginning of her film that, my god, i was so surprised when russia attacked ukraine in the year 22, it was so unexpected, but she does not say at all that russia attacked ukraine at all ukraine in 2014, and before that it attacked other countries, and this it's not the first time it's happened, and if she had spoken about it, the eyewitnesses on...