ukraine is considering the issue of raising taxes, which is quite significant. and we see that there is a lack of acceptance among many of our citizens, why should this be done? and i understand why this lack of perception exists, because people are not explained why. on the other hand, these same people ask the question, why raise taxes now, if we are told that there will be a second peace summit in november and all this will be over. on the other hand, here i am even every day, now here i am at ours. talked to a person, they also ask me questions, and when is that all? will end, i won’t charge anymore, but how to continue to build your life, why do they do it, and there are actually a lot of such questions every day, that is, you are absolutely right here that we need to talk to people and somehow explain to people what we will have, what plan will we have for the future, because even i personally, taking into account the fact that we have one thing in the morning, another in the day, in the evening absolutely three statements from...

official persons again, i am already silent there about experts, about about about someone else, and it's really not that demotivating, that brings, it disorients, it brings misunderstanding to what will happen even by the end of this year, well, you understand, another big problem, i think, the communications of the government and society, the president and his subordinates all the time want to prove to our compatriots, that the end of the war depends on them, and it is also very dangerous. you understand, when we start to believe that the end of the war depends on zelensky under certain conditions, we fight because he becomes the leader of the resistance, he fights as the supreme commander, he fights with by the russians, and if he wants to go home, well, this is a question of his desire, not even now, it is a question of when he will finally... finish

the work on the plan of negotiations with the russians, finish and agree, and this is not true, from nothing depends on zelensky in such a situation, when putin is not going to end the war. zelensky is a victim, he is the president of a country that is a victim of aggression, the aggressor here is putin, the aggressor can only be stopped, but it does not depend on you when you end the war, because you are not the one who attacked, the one who attacked may want to end the war , and that's a million, by the way. western leaders from biden to macron and scholz once said, if putin wants to end this war, he doesn't need zelensky for that, he can end it in 24 hours, i think even two, and zelensky needs putin, putin doesn't need zelensky to the end of the war, zelensky, putin is needed to end the war, without putin, zelensky cannot end the war, but putin can without zelensky, because these are russians on the territory of our country, russia believes that we should get rid of...

sovereignty, russia is sure that without annexing the territory of ukraine, it cannot become a major civilizational, international player, and therefore it must pay any price, so that ukraine never exists again. these are different things, we, we do not want all this, we do not believe that if russia exists, then ukraine will not exist, in the political sense of the word, we have no problems with russia, except that it is an aggressor, and russia she has us, she wants us not to be, it's different. posing a question, and if our compatriot with you appears once again the illusion that the problem is with zelensky, we are moving again into the world, absolutely, i would say, the terrible world of 2019, when a huge number of people, and zelensky among them, said that the war continues because the current government wants it, it he gets rich on it, and if you remove the people who get rich from the war, it seems to me a quote from shefir or... if there are more of them

, the war will stop immediately, but now they say the same thing, and any case of corruption, we understand that corruption is part of this whole story, an obvious part, and again, its strengthening could have been predicted 5 years ago, simply for the reason that when you bring unprofessional leadership to power, you give the hands of corruption such a weapon that it cannot but use, and corruption will intensify every year professionally leadership to the point that it will literally strangle this public administration, grab it by the throat and not let go for the next three or four decades, you must clearly realize this, you will not get anywhere from corruption, you yourself got into the trap where it was, but this it starts right away, that's why the war continues, because they get rich from it, of course there are always dirty people who get rich from the war, the russian-ukrainian war will create a lot more wealth for ukrainian...

officials and people close to the authorities, there's no doubt about it, but they didn't start this war and they can't end it, they can't say: oh, we don't... we need to get more rich, let's have peace now, we already have enough money, we can already buy villas in italy, france, monaco, factories, steamships, buy all ukrainians and sell them, that's all, we need peace, because they don't decide it, the russians will decide when there will be peace, the russians, not the ukrainians, but what should be done so that the russians decide that it will blow to peace, they must be stopped until you stop the russian, he will fight. so, here is the real peace plan: russian troops stop, russian attacks do not reach their goal, ukrainians hit russia, thus creating the conditions for war to become an inhabitant of russian settlements as well as ukrainian ones, and on the territory

two countries, in fact, black unrestrained life continues along with the war, not one, but two, and this is an important condition, and russia, not having importance. its troops and not being able to destroy the ukrainian infrastructure, together with this it loses billions of dollars every day, then a warehouse exploded, then something failed to sell, then some chinese bank refused to have any business with russia, and here every day not even subordinates ask putin, he himself asks himself, well, these troops are standing here and beyond, maybe we need to act differently, he begins to talk about it... minutes a day, he will wake up and think at least, well, if he thinks about it 10 about ukraine, as yeltsin bequeathed, remember, he said, every russian official should wake up in the morning and think about ukraine, they do that now, then there may

be a real possibility of ending the war, and then zelensky can really write a plan, because then at least some platform for a compromise may emerge, and so far they are climbing. like the people in pokrovsk, while they are preparing rockets to freeze the ukrainians, so that the ukrainians have no chance because many to survive the winter, at least there in certain regions, and they believe in it, as long as they can maintain a certain social level, as long as they can pay money to their contractors, and as long as the competition continues in russian regions, who will pay more... and by the way , look, andrei, this is not a fictitious competition, there are regions that cannot pay extra, for example, khakassia, let's say, it pays zero rubles to those who go to serve under a contract in addition to this amount, which is promised by the federal government, and there are

regions that pay a lot, so they still have more not all the money is used up, at the moment when you and i say, listen, from the russian regions... they do not pay additional money to their contractors, do not stimulate them to give it, this means that in a large part of the territory of russia there are problems with regional budgets, it doesn't exist yet, well, these are just objective data, because you understand, you and i will never fully understand the statistics of the development of the russian economy, but here is what, by and large, russia can show that it really is with... .but do from the point of view of recruiting people, we can judge on these federal and regional payments. well, but in principle, then we return to the so-called victory plan: the more money the allies give us, the more weapons they give us, the more russia will

understand that we will fight back, the more chances we will get somewhere to some track of the end of the war, well, i'm back again, i don't know when. there is a chance to implement such a plan, at least in... in the near term three, six, where months. i thought you were asking about the immediate plan, the one you were talking about, the plan for victory conditional in the next decade and in the next term of the president of the united states, the next, that is, from march 2020 ee, lord, the fifth year to january to february 2030 opens a window of opportunity, and until march so far? relatively speaking, we will be in the same bailout mode that we were in, and maybe president biden will make some unconventional decisions, but in any case, you know, look at what is happening with biden, he is in a certain political trap, on the one hand, he can

now make any decision about more intensive aid to ukraine and not be responsible for its long-term consequences, because this is the end of his political career, which he did not expect, huh. "if he was running for president of the united states right now, he wouldn't have to show anything at all, he would be careful about the definition, but on the other hand he has to make a decision that..." well, it certainly shouldn't be a problem for the presidential campaign kamela garis. so he cannot afford the so-called acute escalation, because if there is any acute escalation, then trump will immediately say, you see, these crazy people, they have led the country to the third world war, already, he is saying this now, this is a large part of his campaign, if they allow russia to shoot ukraine, shoot russia, it will lead us to'. world war, says trump. this is a quote. and in the period of transit of power, let's say, there

may be some non-standard there from november 5 to january 20. depends on who will be elected. then there will be a transfer of cases. so the administration that transfers matters to his successors, as a rule, he does not make any such tough decisions that contradict the ideas of his successors. consultations must take place. because everyone. perfectly understands, this is a question of the succession of power, that you cannot make decisions that later, for which your successor will later be blamed, this does not happen in a big way, well, again, can biden increase aid to ukraine, well, first of all, in within the framework of that budget, which is allocated for aid, we talk about biden all the time, as if there is no congress, again, it is biden, zelensky everything will be shown to biden, well, biden, as you remember, was ready to help us with this amount that is currently allocated. congress 6 months before the congress made this decision, and trump is fully aware, this is

trump, you have to call a spade a spade, delayed the allocation of this aid, and agreed only when he saw that it did not bring any electoral damage to him , then the question arises, even if it is written in the victory plan that it is necessary, perhaps we do not know this, but that is what the western media say, guarantees of military aid for ukraine, and congress how? well, let's say that president biden tells zelensky, it's a great idea, volodymyr, you need to guarantee help, i 'm ready to do it, i'm completely, i'm in favor with both hands, well, you can say the same to president zelensky, i can say, he can be with us to meet and show us the plan of victory, because then we will have to go to the congress, and then the question arises, and this congress will vote, the most important thing is how much is left of this congress, three months, two, practically nothing, but in two months there... . there will be a clear understanding that there is a new majority, if it is a republican majority, but

the republicans absolutely do not need to vote for something that is not in their interests, and they know that there is a new president, and they know that the next congress will continue this line , if there will be a democratic majority, but the republicans will definitely try to shift all responsibility for such decisions to the democracy, and vice versa. so the options are limited in that regard, well again we may not like it all, but that's how it looks professional policy. well, listen, well, president zelenskyi can definitely understand this, because he is in his own parliament, having a monomajority there, from absolute anonymous people, whose surnames he himself does not even know who these people are, whom he basically brought to the verkhovna rada of ukraine , he is constantly faced with the situation of not being there anymore. if you think about it, how is it that i have a monomajority, and i am forced to go to political

bidding from the former opzzh, without the votes of the former pro-russian forces, i cannot rule the country, and biden does not have a majority, and unlike zelenskyi, he knows all the senators and congressmen for sure, people who have real political careers know it all, these are all people who depend on their voters. the deputy from zelensky depends so zero on his voter, zero, because this voter doesn't even know his name, then, when he finds out that there is a conditional blank in the parliament, he starts saying: oh, who voted for her? what is this, who did you vote for her, you, you, where did you vote for her, you, with your pen, and now, well, what about america doesn't happen like that, it's not a kindergarten, it's an adult country, yes... they also vote for very strange people, meleri, what was her name there,

meleri, taylor green, that's 150 cornerless, cornerless napoleon bonaparte and cicero compared to mailary taylor green, but on the other hand, the people who voted for mezhorim, i'm sorry, they knew exactly who they were voting for, she didn't suddenly appear as a surprise in parliament, she was a political activist. she was public, she expressed her opinions, she spoke at rallies, you absolutely you consciously vote for such a person, that's the difference, well, these are people who have been working towards their goal for decades, i'm sorry. but in the united states of america, there are congressmen and senators who have been in the politics of the 70s and 80s of the last century, there are those who have been in politics for 30 years already, there are those who have been active for 30 years, yes, and there are those who have gone to their goal, 20 years, 30 years, 15 years, i'm sorry,

starting from the fact that i was someone's assistant, or a low, low-ranking, democratic one. the republican party, and now they have become a congressman or a senator, so that's about it let's go, i mean, you know that there are young people, these young people still go to rallies by themselves, give speeches by themselves, here's a spartz, yes, she is a young politician, and she was left behind, who asked her to be re-elected again , because she is a popular person in indiana, she is not a veteran of politics, but she knows how to reach people in indiana. this is a very important thing that we also forget all the time that america, like the european union , is the united states, you need to find a common language not with some abstract an american, like how here you need to find a common language first of all with a ukrainian, no, you need to find a common language with people in indiana, in oregon, in california, in new york and these are different languages, completely different political

languages, and when a person she can, of course she needs her own. the party needs society, and it can be very strange, but maybe its voters are strange, by the way, about one more senator, if we have already mentioned senators, andriy derkach, he was a people's deputy of ukraine, how many convocations, how many you have to google convocations there, but many convocations, he became a senator, a senator or a member of the federation council in russia, from the astrakhan region. a person who was in fact one of the apologists of the russian church in ukraine, a person who in fact promoted this russian peace in ukraine, and a person who became famous in general for all these russian connections, if not the most, mr. vitaly, what kind of phenomenon is this and

why is derkach to putin, well, it is clear that after andrii derkach fled from ukraine to russia, er... he could have fallen to the bottom, he yanukovych could become conditional there, but we see that he, in fact, in fact, how to say it, was reincarnated from one policy, from one political reality to another political reality, what kind of a member of the federation council is he in russia, it's a political pension, i'm just very surprised that, say, the senator from the zaporizhia region is dima ragozin, and the senator from the astrakhan region is andriy derkach, why not the other way around. derkachan was made a member of the federation council from some occupied and why, why is it derkachy at all, and i to you i can explain, because dima rogozin is an fsb agent, and andriy derkach is an fsb officer, these people have different reports in ranks, even in such a situation, i do not think at all that andriy derkach had to lie down somewhere, at the bottom the agents lie down, they

have completed their mission, no one needs them anymore, and the chekists always treat agents like this... well, you got your 30 pieces of silver there, go, have a rest, feed the ostriches, and the officer who was doing all the time work, he should receive an award, well, look, andriy logovy, what a man the british court found litvinenko guilty of murder, he is also a member of the state duma of the russian federation, a very active deputy, this is not the federation council for you, this is an active public activity, because let him work well, obey, perform all the tasks that were correctly, now work in parliament, get access to certain financial flows, i generally believe that andriy was an agent of the russian special services all his life, i don’t know how his father is the former head of the sbu, it’s just a good question, but he definitely is, the fact is that

you mention what he is guilty of was a member of... of the verkhovna rada, who all the time advocated pro-russian narratives, no, he was the owner of the era television company and era radio, these were the main voices, as you remember, next to the fifth channel of the orange revolution, he was then a deputy from the motherland, well, maybe it was necessary, well, you don’t think that his political views changed so suddenly, as they say, you understand how to say it correctly, the image or tasks can be different, and then i’ll tell you again, here i was with andriy derkach in the studio in kyiv, we were there there are not many, four people. we were invited by savik shuster on his own initiative, when there was a story with tuzla, that is, there was a moscow studio there, there were people from this side with patriotic views, so andriy derkach

was then the main patriot of all times and people, he stood up for it then, if you can find it this program in the archive, you will see how andriy dorkach, but we understand that it was all just a game, and he needed the escalation of this conflict at that time in order to... put kuchma in an uncomfortable position, that is, he was always initially in national-democratic camp, and then, when they decided that they already had everything in their pockets, he revealed himself early, then in the regional camp he performed tasks, but his most important task was the story with the compromise of biden and poroshenko, and this was again the hook, here they all for some time , the russians tried to catch the completely inexperienced ukrainian authorities on some kind of hook. for her to like it, but they knew there, let's say, that zelensky has a personal hatred for poroshenko, this is not a special secret, i think that i am not revealing any secrets here, that zelensky is shaking,

when he mentions poroshenko, i don't know why, it's hard for me to understand, because i believe that the succession of power in a democratic country excludes such and such behavior, but on the other hand, trump did not come to biden's inauguration, we are no longer alive in such conditions, that is why it is zelenskyi's right, but we are not talking about it now, so they understand that if... someone releases some tapes that will give zelenskyi and his entourage the opportunity to say something bad about poroshenko, then they must will take advantage of the fact that that poroshenko's interlocutor is biden. so, they will compromise biden and, on the one hand, create problems for the relationship between zelenskyi and biden, if biden becomes the president of the united states. this is also part of the preparation for war. that is , he must say something bad. about biden, he must take advantage of all this himself, because at the moment when the war begins, biden will in any case feel

a personal antipathy towards him, who can perform such a difficult task, not some agent dubinsky, you know that , it's all a trifle, a a real officer with a good education, you understand, derkach graduated there from the academy, the fsb. so, he was taught all this, you see, they teach all this, and if we look at all the forms, how they teach, they, let's say, study all their previous operations, they just pass the exams, here is the trust operation with savinkov, remember this story, when boris savienko was lured into the soviet union, creating a special organization abroad, ready to fight the regime, how? fbk, the current one, it is very, very similar, but when you look at the activities of fbk, from, i don’t want to say anything about fbk, ugh,

but it is absolutely similar to this organization created by arbuzov and other chekists outside the borders of soviet russia in order to lure savinkov here and in general to compromise opposition activities, because you understand that after boryslenka, was a charismatic leader. repented of all his sins and died, then this dealt a serious blow to the anti-bolshevik opposition, which was stronger than it seems to us, because we also live in the soviet narratives of history, so far, and in this respect, here is a great story with a jerk, well, if he did all this, they evaluate, you did it, you did it, in principle, biden might have a better attitude towards ukraine, if it weren’t for this story, he would have more, i i would say more personal contact with the president. ukraine, if there was not all this wonderful history, or something else, the sumy region, ugh, he was actually its curator, also positions, do you remember how the mayor

of the deaf michel tereshchenko, ugh, he was shouting what was happening to sumy the region under derkach's people, and what, it wasn't even opportunities, to somehow stop it, because everyone thought that it was stable there. the situation, well, yes, well, the regionals, well, he was not a regionalist, he was just a statesman, and andriy always tried to make such an impression on his interlocutors, so to speak, that this is not a matter of political views, it is a matter of statehood, he is such a senator, sorry, roman, not russian, because he is the son of the head of the security service of ukraine, this always causes respect in our conditions of the political elite, well, you know what we have... hereditary politicians, hereafter there are people who are absolutely professional, absolutely skillful, and there are people who use this succession of correct activities in the pita, the question here

is simply that in reality such... jerks, well, conventional ones, small or big, if we are talking about the sumy region, as an example, then we can also talk about the same year 2022 and about the kharkiv region, and about the kherson region, and about the mykolaiv region, and about the zaporizhia region, about donetsk, oh well, and 2013 is the year of luhansk regional comrade, that's what we're talking about such a very recent retrospective, and why look, yefrimov now lives in moscow, however, the leader of the former fraction of the party of regions, he was a curator. he was in the lhansk region, he actually trained personnel who helped it support the russian invasion, right? but what happened to yeflim after the 2014 maidan, nothing, he headed the faction of the regions until the end of the convocation, do you understand? in principle, he could continue his activities as an agent for the protection of the interests of the russian federation, directly from his

office in kyiv. he continued to perform his powers until the last day of the deputy, well, he is not the only one, actually, but this is just a vivid story, there were actually many of them, and i say once again, from a small cog of some kind to the very big efremovs, yes, but here the question arises whether there were , that is, we have to understand the absolute level of infiltration of russian agents into ukrainian political, military, and security structures, that is, i... that a large number of people have already disappeared, but we do not know the number of agents and, most importantly, sleeper agents of the russian federation, given the fact that there was never a real rupture of the umbilical cord, still continues to perform its functions and waits for its time, here you are regarding this, i had a question five minutes ago, you mentioned that derkach, he was at one time so democratic, allegedly

a person who provides... platforms for freedom of speech in ukraine, yes, we mentioned the same era, and yes, it was difficult to blame the era television and radio company at that time in that, i'm sorry, there is a very big one censorship, do they not allow opposition politicians there, i remember that too, but you said one thing really, that this is a person who at some point, at least demonstrated that she is... a democrat, taking this into account, the following question arises : and could there have been such jerks, including in the national-patriotic forces, at that time and not only at that time, a certain number, that is, conditionally, as you say, dormant agents who, conditionally speaking, simply performed their patriotic role, since the late 80s, early 90s, well, our representatives of the national-patriotic forces they talk about it very reluctantly, as a rule, well,

that's understandable. thing, but taking into account the fact that in those countries where the kgb archives were actually disclosed, it suddenly turned out that in the leadership of the same sayudis at the time of independence, and other organizations, there are many former agents of the state security committee of the soviet union, we can do the conclusion that such people were also there, the only thing is that they were not so much needed there for one simple reason: sayujis came to power, the people's movement did not come to power, and for that, in order to really carry out some... influential situation, as you understand, it was necessary to be near the influential authorities, that is why all these tobacconists, who could also play the role of national democrats, but they immediately got their bearings and understood that they had to continue their agent activities there , where you have, firstly, access to financial flows, and secondly, where you can influence the decisions of the ukrainian authorities, and what you can steal from the popular movement, some accounts, relatively speaking, that is, there are no such interests there was a... really very interesting topic, and here, i

think, maybe in the future we will learn something more, and of course, unfortunately, in ukrainian politics so far, we observe those people who, even now in the verkhovna rada, who promoted russian narratives both until 2014 and until 2022, but they are still in the verkhovna rada. of ukraine, but this is another topic, we have a short break, and we will return with several more extremely important topics, wait and do not switch to the espress tv channel. a journalist who joined the armed forces, a political expert who became special agent, taras berezovyts in the new.