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the national security service of ukraine has restricted the use of the telegram messenger in state bodies of the national security service of ukraine. today, it became known that the national coordination center for cyber ​​security, which is a structural unit of the nsdc, has banned the installation and use of telegram on the official devices of employees state authorities, military personnel, employees of the security and defense sector, as well as companies operating critical infrastructure. i'm being honest. i don’t quite understand how the nsdc is going to administer this whole story with applications, with the telegram application with this platform, wouldn’t it be easier to follow the path that the nsdc used to take with vkontakte classmates, when these two networks were simply banned there for 5 years in ukraine, then this ban was extended, and here are some half-measures that it seems that telegram is... a platform that

is controlled by the russians, but it is forbidden for civil servants to install in the phones of military personnel, and whether it will work at all in the conditions of this management chaos, bogdan, well, look, on human rights, which at one time took a very active part in the committee is also preparing a ban on contact with classmates, of course i completely agree with you that just telegram should be done in the same way as it was with vkontakte, it is clear that even now those who want to use vkontakte, he just installs a vpn on his phone and uses it, it’s not a problem, we just understand very well that any such blocking, in fact, is not directed against those who deliberately do something, but against the conditional two-thirds of people there , how lazy and sorry, they won't do anything extra there, it doesn't open, well, what with it, something else will open, whether it will work or not, look, well, first of all, we have to understand that telegram is a social network that at... brought here by the government of zelenskyi po

to a large extent, it was these people who made and brought the russian social network and the fashion for it here to ukraine, that is, if before that it was an underground messenger that was used there, to whom it should be said, yes , it is exactly that kind of mainstream, especially , you know, the whole format with these anonymous telegram sinkholes, it is of course a factor of politics, in fact, zelensky and his team did it, and they usually rule there, it is obvious. accordingly, they do not want to give up this social network, because where else can they use their own shit cesspools, pretending it's not you, spewing dirt and lies and manipulating anyone and not taking any responsibility for it. uh, well, i’m actually very saddened by the fact that, for example, according to the latest polls conducted by internyuws, 2/3 of ukrainians still use telegram, it is in the first place for receiving information, and of course the fact

that half people against there being any regulation there at all. i understand that the popularity of telegram is in many ways also a challenge to the usual absolutely bastard the policy carried out by american social networks, for example, such and such facebook or youtube, in which you simply, for example, cannot cover the war, that is, any frame with a real war, well, you immediately have a full chance to get blocked and everything, and you won't prove anything to anyone, and the telegram certainly got away with the fact that it is so uncensored of you, well, the russians are always very... able to fight against democracy with the methods of democracy itself, but now as to whether this story will work, look, thank god , that finally this decision has been made at least somehow, this obviously, but again it's very half-hearted, why? because we are talking about a work phone, well let's be honest, friends, most people don't have work phones, they have the same phone that they have, it's also a work phone, relatively speaking, it's one time, the second time, you're great do you understand that again... what does it mean that the type

cannot be installed? he will say: this is my personal phone and that's all, and go to hell, as volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi says, then the third moment, let's say it like this, is very important, as far as i know already... very for a long time in all adequate units in the army it has long been forbidden to circle any official correspondence in a telegram, and everyone who has even a little bit of rivets in their head, who do not want to get a rocket on their head, for a long time no longer conduct any negotiations there, that is, the military has long communicate either in whatsapp or in most of them in the signal, and i think they know this very well, but as for civil servants, well, look, a very important decision that really needs to be made is the deanonymization of the telegram, so that there can be no anonymous error telegrams. so that it is possible to clearly understand who is leading them, but the current government will obviously stand against this decision to the last, i think that the story here is that the security requirements, which, by the way, budanov mentioned by you, for which he thank you very much, i kept saying that this is a danger, this is a huge danger for the ukrainian state telegram,

so it was impossible not to react, especially after the fool was detained in france and so on, but you see, this is a very half-hearted decision, as soon as it was accepted, they immediately started running out there for... tvinenko, this head of the cpd kovalenko. you will understand, this is not a ban and in general it is on your phones personally, it is only there for civil servants, that is, look, it is absolutely obvious that this decision is very half-hearted, and who will control it, how will it be controlled, that is, well, i perceive it in in a positive sense, just because it's the first step, it's the first step to this stinking cesspool finally being de-anonymized and brought under control, whether it can be blocked without a problem, despite the fact that that it has a slightly different structure there, it’s cloudy there, it doesn’t matter at all, it’s simply necessary, the state should work with the largest providers that provide traffic, large in the country and then its distribution and everything, and so on, please, who cares of course, they will go there, but most people will abandon him, but i am

100% sure that as long as zelensky is in power, while in his office of the president, there are people who, excuse me, personally conduct these shitty telegram scams, like, for example, telegram scam vertical, which on... according to rumors directly led by dasha zarivna, the right hand of andriy yarmak, and so on and so forth. remember the investigation of our colleagues, about another comedian joker and so on. i think we all understand what we are talking about, well, will they refuse such a resource, especially since the situation is not so rosy for them in other social networks, they lose in youtube, you know, in facebook they did not try to fight and so on. on instagram, of course, they ask to flirt with bloggers, there is a very dull audience and it is difficult to get them there in politics, so telegram is very good for them. in fact, it is a strategic story, they will pretend that they are regulating something, but they will do everything possible to ensure that this resource is not lost under any circumstances, so i would not be happy just yet, thank you marina, well why can't you do the same with telegram as vkontakte and

your classmates, i agree that the ukrainian authorities in the person of zelenskyi and his team, they, let's say this, have been popularizing and popularizing the kilogram to the maximum. i will remind you how they first entered politics, there was such a quote from andrii bohdan, more the former head of the president's office, who said that look, we will communicate with ukrainian society directly, we don't need any journalists, and after that they began to very actively use telegram for direct communication, just like telegram, but as shown. at the time of telegram is a rather shaky thing, because look, today the vertical works for you, and tomorrow it can work for your competitor in the conditions of the elections, today you are kissing on the cheek with a little girl and inviting this telegram channel

to your press conferences, and tomorrow it is there that they can pour dirt on you, and then let's be honest, well... i also read the survey that was recently published on the opor website, and telegram is popular, but the point is , that telegram is mainly used either by the youngest audience, who are just lazy and poke around somewhere and they say that it is very convenient, or by the audience that is older, that is, they realized that it does not bring an increase in the audience, the telethon is theirs anyway took off and... and finally died down, let's say, those channels what kind of people are they, it's the fifth one and espresso, they live their own lives, and in principle, they even live a good life, because the audience watches them, there is some adequate

information, it can be looked at, after all, professional journalists work there, and not the ones hatched there in the little bear's nest, so now they are. are looking for options on how to save this telegram, and therefore issue such half-hearted solutions, and the second moment, they are now trying to pull out some popular instagram blogger and... plant it instead of professional journalists, we have already seen the case of a certain alina shamanska, who, by the way, according to my information, does not get out of the headquarters of the servants of the people party, that is, even though they say that she does not, she works as a volunteer, but this person very often just "he appears in the office of the servants of the people at the bank and obviously receives some tasks there, we need to follow up, because there were very active rumors, but that's all he said there so far. more entertaining bloggers, that such a blogger as ramina is very

actively lured to work in the office of the president of ukraine, because they realized they are losing their audience, and somehow that audience needs to be further bullied, and it is obvious to convince them why zelensky's moderate plan, according to which we will have a freeze on hostilities, and a huge part of our people and territories will be under occupation, why is this good, so we will follow.. . for this thing, i really like when there are individual representatives of the national security council and the center for countering disinformation, you know, they themselves bet on the development of their popularity in telegram, so of course such people will protect telegram. about myself, i will say that i have there is no telegram channel, i use telegram exclusively to communicate with my electrician, that’s enough for me, i don’t get new information there, and if they write some nasty things about me on... separate telegram channels, good subscribers always send in another certified

american white messenger, which i advise every ukrainian citizen to install and use. thank you marina, and more literally, colleagues, the very end, i wanted to ask about your reaction to the escape of andrii odarchenko, a deputy from the servant of the people, he is there is going through a case regarding the attempted... bribery of mustafa nayem, the former head of the ukraine reconstruction agency, this is not the first servant of the people to flee, does this mean that they feel that the end of their power is just coming, bohdan, i think the dude is just completely successful they beat him, as if they told him, uncle, you are lazy there, because otherwise they will have to make you a bobo, and i'm sorry if it's a coincidence that he... fled through transcarpathia, the head of which has now become the new first deputy head of the office of the president

volodymyr zelenskyi andriy yermaka, you are mine please tell me, now it’s easy for a person to leave the country even with a passport, even if he has all the right documents, they’ll kill him, believe me with the full program, here the dude without a passport was just lazing around, you know, you can declare him an international wanted man as much as you want, dmytrokaun was also declared an international wanted man, things are going smoothly in london, thank you, but marina... three weeks ago, zelenskyi already said that there are border guards, customs officers, we will check them all there, and draw appropriate conclusions after the escape of artem dmytruk, well, almost a month has passed , and there is no news about these clashes, but i think that we need to watch that at a certain time x will use the same life hack of his deputies, dmytruk, and this odarchenko, there trubitsin and others .

volodymyr oleksandrovich zelensky himself did not take advantage of his predecessors, who so powerfully fled the country using foreign passports or other schemes, because one would not like to wake up in the morning and you read the news that zelensky has disappeared, disappeared somewhere, somewhere because he left zakarpattia region for europe. as for this odarchenko, i want to tell the ukrainian viewers that for me the most frightening thing about his offer of a bribe to mustafa nayem, let's say this, to this reformed marin, we have very little time, literally 10 seconds, is more frightening his statement, where he told about , that kharkiv must surrender and that kharkiv will not be able to hold back, consider that this was said by a person who was elected by the majority, precisely the people of kharkiv. thank you, maryna danyliuk yarmaeva, bohdan butkevich were guests of our program today, thank you for participation and for the attention of our viewers and viewers. throughout our broadcast, we conducted a survey, we asked about this, do you perceive? serious nuclear threats from the kremlin: 32% yes, 68% no, these are the results of our

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devote to defending the state, and i am now 21 years old, i went to war when i was 18 years old, i signed a contract on december 23 before the war and the war began on february 24, that is, i did not even pass the kmb, we passed the kmb month, we were quickly removed, ah, i met the war, where i met the war, near the breweries, i met the war, at first we were in the artillery, but on february 23, the commander wrote: guys, behave well, because they can to crawl, it really happened, and we didn't believe it, but what, well which one well, there could be a war on the 24th, which absolutely no one believed, well, but we were preparing, we didn’t sleep all night, just at 5 in the morning the war started, we just left for the breweries and already met rusna there, and then what did we fight back , they were repulsed from the kyiv region, i was in the 72nd belytserki artillery in the artillery, then we arrived in the donetsk

region, i got bored carrying shells in the artillery, i didn't want it, i wanted action. service or yes, yes, i was a service number, then i became a loader, well, i am these shells, they were so heavy, i was breaking that back so much, i wanted some kind of action, i think, i want infantry, i want some kind of close combat and so on, well, it was fun for me, i was still young, i was 18 years old , and i wanted some kind of action, and we decided to transfer to the infantry together with the boys and transferred in the infantry, in the infantry i was transferred to the mechanized battalion, because the guys who were transferred to the riflemen were two hundred and three hundred there, i thought, and i'll live a little longer. and my mechanized battalion arrived and there already started such a test, well, the test began for me, well, it's very tough already in the east it was so, so, so, it was already, it really started very hard, i was what was in kyiv region, and then what was in donetsk region, these are our two different countries, when you arrive, it was very hard there, he will say, no,

no, you didn’t regret it then, no, no, but for the thrill, on the contrary, i liked it, and so briefly, we had an assault, we were repelling our position, and i was put in command of a detachment or a platoon commander, i never understood , because i had all my boarding, and there were seven of us . seven people were boys, young, green, people like me, we took two prisoners, captured two vehicles, two new ones, threes, i don't remember where they still have three or three machine guns, these are very new, very cool, and i was just going to evacuate, i i packed my backpack, there was a bunch of different tricks, i packed my gun, i took radio stations, i took away my passports, and i was just going to evacuate, i just blew myself up on that droshka, on a mine, yes, i blew up on a mine, and... i was blown away right away my heel, my fingers flew up to my knee, this is my left leg, what else, it broke my entire left arm, completely, it was like that, no she was moving, was it a petal or was it, well,

they wrote a petal, but there was something more serious, because the fragments were metal, in the petal in the same place, well, it’s plastic, yes, and they broke my right leg, i applied three tourniquets to myself , and then i waited for the boys to come running, during this period i wanted to shoot myself, and i had already put the machine gun to my beard, right now... let's stop for a second, let's stop at the expense of shooting myself, it's faster was it emotional, have you ever experienced that that someone did such a thing, that is, where did it come from, how did it reach you, that you will no longer be able to agree or that you will be taken prisoner, this is the moment of suffering, i was more afraid of being captured and dying, more precisely, it's just a slipper , what are you running away, yes, yes, yes, i'll just lie somewhere and that's all, and it was just this moment that i just blew up, i look... three limbs are cut off, well, the left leg is missing at all, i think that's all, well, where, where to live next, that is, i thought to myself, right here, right now , they will cut off, they will cut off their leg, they will cut off their leg, i

i think so, no, dude, i don’t want to live like this, my parents want to do it, i think, no, i decided anyway and that’s it, i put a machine gun in bora, i understood that there was a katsap 100 m away, i thought that that's all, it's a slipper, and if i'm still captured, they're going to mock me, a fraction of a second, the guys ran right up, that's all they just run up and immediately take the machine gun and that's it, i tell them, guys, thank you, thank you, that's what by the way, i remember at our kmb, as military doctors, we were taught the same way that help is help, first of all take it away from the soldier his weapon, this is the first task, so that he does not harm either you or himself, the evacuation, do you remember how it happened, the evacuation is very fast, right ? i was run over by a car, it just so happened that i just ordered a car for myself, because i have just one, nothing happens by chance, i always say, yes, yes, the guys quickly ran up to me

on stretchers and carried me away, i still remember, i i didn't smoke and i still don't smoke, in general i am absolutely against it, i remember, i tell the boys, guys, give me a smoke, give me, give me, i want to smoke, well, i want a pair of slippers, no one gave me one, and to this day i thank the boys that i didn't start smoking, because i think that i would have started smoking later... well, that's all, i'm a person who quit smoking for 20 years, i'll tell you that it's very good that everything turned out the other way, i almost quit and didn't start again in the army, well, it's already such a long story, my name is andrii zholub, this is a project without armor on fm halychyna, and today with yehor oliynyk we are talking about how he did not see anything but the army in his young life and war, grow during the war and continue the struggle both with the enemy and with yourself, your decisions. during military operations. subscribe to the bez broni channel on youtube, comment, like and always be aware of who comes to us and what we talk about. about your

treatment and then returning to the front with a prosthesis, how did you manage all this before deciding that i am enough, i am enough of trials, life has been given to me once again, maybe it is not worth taking a risk, how did you make such a decision in the first place it was as revenge, i was just driving along in all the hospitals of ukraine, well, not in all, in many hospitals of ukraine, but i had such hatred, well, it’s just a slipper, well, how did i leave it without a leg, well, how can i live like this now, well, how, what am i now in civilian life i will do without a leg, work as a security guard, or should i go and sort out some things, what should i do, well, well, it was just a slipper for me, and i decided for myself that i would go back, and i thought so, that i will lift the boys' spirits, first of all, that i... returned to them on a prosthesis, and to me, when they were put in lviv in unbroken prosthesis, i then underwent a month or

a half of treatment. well, rehabilitation, and then, when i came to the brigade, i said, i ’m going back, they were all just in shock, i said in one word that i’m going straight back to my own, to my battalion, to my unit, it’s all the same , so that there was nothing anywhere, that i would get there in some style, because i wouldn’t be able to pull it out mentally, i got to where i wanted, to my boys, i got into the infantry and scratched myself normally there on a prosthesis, that is, you walked on a prosthesis in storms or you still? i was thinking of something the support function, at first they didn’t know what to do with me, they sent me to courses about fpv, i unlearned, well, not a slipper, well, just, well, you ’re sitting somewhere a few kilometers away, there are kilometers away, and you need two to make contact, yes, well, it’s just a slipper, well, i have one my heart is so doo-doo-doo-doo i unlearned to be a flight attendant i have a certificate i started flying i didn't like it at all at all i approached

the commander and said commander no. well, i want to go there, he said, ok, that’s it, they decided among themselves there, and i joined the infantry, i did all the duties performed by the infantry, absolutely all of them, i was on an equal footing with them, i carried the same, but the swamp was not bolo, i did everything completely, absolutely, but you were not treated as brothers, somehow, so that you were a little save more there and so on, as it always happened like this, says yehor, no need, but sit down, and what is the point of you, they will carry you later, i say... boys, i won't be able to catch you later, because i already know how it is and what it is, that's why i always really like, you know, this kind of core of communication between siblings, when it seems that everyone there is 16 years old, regardless of whether you are 45, or 50, or 18, you like to wave at each other, stick your finger between the ribs, a normal boyish topic, but how did it happen that you left your service, you went on the assaults on the prosthesis, what happened, what

happened? the reason, in general, it’s hard, it’s hard for me to speak a little, and i’m on the sixth of that month, what month is it, now it’s september, and it’s august 6, and on august 6, i’m officially a civilian, i’m decommissioned, it’s very hard for me , for the entire period when i was there, i was eight months, half a year was in infantry and for about two months i was engaged in the provision of the unit, because we had already moved to another area, and i realized that i would give more... to the boys that i would bring them provisions, drive them, midrots, evacuations and so on, and i forgot the question, but what actually happened, that you fought, fought on a prosthesis and here once, yes, during the whole time the boys told me everything, yehor, go rest, you have already given your all, really, go rest, i am there for me it was already mentally hard, and physically it was hard on my leg, and the guys

supported me a lot, they supported me a lot, but well, they said that yehor, rest already, your time has come, that's it, rest, go abroad, have fun, you will help us a lot in the body, every one of my boys, he helped me constantly, and i was just in the position, on in the car, i was just waiting for the guys from the evacuation, and they say that they say that yehor, you have to pass the medical examination, go to pavlograd, i say fine, i went to pavlograd, i immediately went to the surgeon, why should i come to some oculist or something else something to stand in line all day, i went to the surgeon, he tells me: well, he says, well, that’s it, he says, i’m sorry, dude, but you have a law, a little book, dude, you have to sign off, i tell him, yes, if i didn’t want to sign off for a long time, why are you forcing me to sign off, that is, well, i don’t i want to sign off, he says, no, no, no, no, no, dude, look, he says, now, he says, you can’t, dude, well, that’s it, i was sent to the white church in the part, i got there, i go in on the vlk to the office and... they give me a little

book like this, they say, look at it, you have to either sit in the back, or in the back, or go somewhere there, well, somewhere there, to some friend region and sit there in a part of the documents , deal with some clothes there, give out some clothes or write papers, i realized that it was, well, no, i wrote to the guys, they said that you are free and that’s all, i signed off, now as a civilian you live in lviv, you yourself where am i from i am in zhytomyr oblast, i still have a family in zhytomyr oblast, so you communicate, everything is fine, everything is fine, how do you get used to a completely new life at the age of 21? and that's all, tell me brother, and as you see, where are you going to move, what you want in life, in which direction you want now, because you know that every veteran returned...