i go to the doctor's office and they give me a little book, they say look at it like this, you have to either sit in the back or in the back, or go somewhere to some other area and sit there in the document section, deal with some pieces of paper there to write, i understood that it was, well, no, i wrote to the guys, they said you are a free type and that's all, i wrote off, now as a civilian you ... repent in lviv. where are you from? i myself am in zhytomyr region. is there still a family in zhytomyr region? yes. yes, you communicate, everything is fine. how do you get used to a completely new life at the age of 21? i'll sum it up like this. in essence, you have not had any civilian profession yet. he finished classes and that's it. tell me, brother, how do you see where you will move, what you want in life, in which direction you want to go now, because you know that every veteran has returned. fortunately

from the war, what you just said that you are lucky to survive, this spark is lit in a new way, and it was already burning in you at the age of 21, now such a fire is burning, tell me, in what direction do you see burn? not yet because i have now realized that with my body i am sitting here, and with my soul i am sitting there, and it is very difficult for me, very difficult, and so far i still do not see myself here. so far, i tell everyone this, but i think that it takes time and that's all, i think that later it will all get better somehow, from my experience, after working with a psychotherapist, i will definitely tell you to do it, i even tell everyone to a military officer , i can't, you know, order someone or anything else, i just convince myself to compare my head a little, because each of us has this thing called soldier's apathy is when you're going through the adrenaline rush and that 's it, and you get into... too quiet, too

calm conditions, and you just don't know what wall to lean against, so i hope we're with you sometime in a while we will meet again for an interview, you will tell me how everything is, and also this question, how do you see society's attitude towards you, towards yegor on the prosthesis, how do civilians treat you, how do children react to it, how do you see how our society treats people? with such post-war defects, purely his own a feeling, well, my personal feeling, my personal feeling, that ah-ah, how can i say it, damn it, now tell me directly, here i am, how do you see people looking at you, what people are paying attention to, whether children approach, whether children run away , that is, let me give you an example,

volodymyr rudkovskii and i, he is my brother here in lviv, the best, we recently rested at the pool in rumbambar, there is one near lviv, we decided to go somewhere, and we lie down, rest, sunbathe, and across from us is a boy, maybe seven years old, and he approaches dad and says that, well, he says that dad, dad, what is this type of uncle without legs, i'm like that... like, well, like what parents, well , the war has been going on for three years, and the father is in the military, he is in the sso, well, how did we talk with him later in imso, i am like that i think, damn it, why are you still in favor of such, well, war, only for war, you can’t tell your child that you can’t say that, well, how so, well, it ’s a bad idea for me, well, i don’t see anything like that here, but well, how so, well, 3 years of full-scale war, but you can't explain it to a child. something like

a protest, volodymyr and i are here all the time we tell, we give the adults a protest, we give the children a protest, but what about you, you yourself can't, you don't see it yourself, you yourself can't go to the rehabilitation center or the same hospital to look at them or something, well, why do we have this to do everything, why don’t you adapt to us, i, for example, don’t know how to communicate with civilians, i can just stand there somewhere, well, i don’t know what to answer him, trust the civilians, then precisely with us, with veterans, but i think... that they need to adapt more, that's why that in my opinion, that if the war ends today, god forbid, then several million veterans will return, absolutely, and it will be just a slipper, there will be a lot of them, and that we will also adapt to them, i think not , this is a very big gap between these layers of society, the main thing is to accept that it is normal, that we are different, but we need to get to know each other, we are, as you know, like oil and water, which are very...

bad mixes, but somehow you have to look for a centrifuge that can handle this dispersion to make molecules among themselves, but do you notice that, on the contrary, people try to... help there when getting off the bus, skip in line, and so on, there is some kind of social understanding that you have already noticed this, well, for example, personally in several people only there decided to help me and everything, how do you feel if they offer you help, and it's fine, it's fine, if it's appropriate to ask something to help you, i say no, thank you, they say thank you and enter and well, that's fine , but in my opinion, this one is the most comfortable protocol, yes, i have not yet heard from... one veteran, that no, you can't ask us to help us, yes, i've never heard either, maybe there are such people somewhere, but i think that they are, that's it there are some very serious problems, which are probably mental, when a person shuts down like that, and what do you generally do in lviv now?

volodymyr and i are freelance advisers to the mayor on issues of veteran policy, you have 14 patriotic centers in lviv, where they educate children, right there... they are taught takmet, what will be necessary if a rocket will fly, no one is immune from this, so that the child can at least understand how to put a tourniquet, how to properly, for example, handle a weapon, if a person has some kind of weapon there, for example , for example, so be it, well, we ride it at the moment, we travel, check these centers, talk with them, find out what they lack in the centers, see their processes, how the children feel about it, whether the children want it or not. engage in, well, these processes are small, so far we are engaged in this, a as you notice, children of such teenage age, they are more drawn to veterans, to communicate, to talk, and they are very interested, i noticed that they are just interested, but they are not interested in this, how you tell something there on very reasonable topics, in

short, clearly, i gave them a prosthesis, they felt it, found out, you explain it to them, look, i put a tourniquet on myself, i tightened the tourniquet, you see, i have splinters on my fingers, my... hand was cut off, i tightened the tourniquet here, the blood did not flow, the same for children it's easier to explain than what they say there, that there needs to be something very reasonable there, well, absolutely, and i was like, i'm sorry now, there was an example, for example, i don't understand, we go to the same center, i don't i'll say what, and there's a tip, they had it, i'm not mistaken, whether it's the first or second classes, and the tip in medicine tells them if you have an artery. bleeding, you take your fist here and there and squeeze, well, like, well, and then what, like, like, okay, a tourniquet, how will she apply it, well, like, okay, well, let’s take it, maybe a tourniquet first you teach the child how to fix it, because we are volodymyr takes the turnstile, takes it out, says anna, show me how to fix the hard-turned, and the girl takes it like this, oh

, i don’t know how, that is, she tells you how to make a fist and that’s it, then what to go to the store or something, well, like what to do with it, and well, the whole truth is that it’s not a shame not to know how, it’s a shame not to ask, i generally think that i was given the opportunity to survive that war only because i questioned the soldiers, the sergeant corps and so on , or arrival or departure, or this or that, as is correct to hide, because in fact we, none of us were born in the navy for war, are not ready for war, but most of us think that we were already in uniform, sitting and carrying small kalash boots. we will end our conversation on that good note, yehor oliynyk was a guest at my place today, a man who spent his entire youth and early youth in the war, do you want to hear more of the story? don't forget that every week we have a new guest, a new story and a new way to live life together on

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, unfortunately, not in our favor, but we continue the fight, and in fact we will also talk with kornii hrytsyuk, with the director who shoots a lot of different absolutely documentary films, in particular here he filmed a project of conversations with russian prisoners, there are simply high-quality interviews that really need to be shown somewhere at various film festivals. so that the audience is there after all, i understood what illusions she was in regarding the russian military, well, let's talk with korniy about the film, which is currently being shown in luxembourg and promised to be shown at other screening festivals in the world, it is called zzinima and tells about, in fact, how russia used some propagandistic elements in cinema, more precisely, how it used cinema to sow propaganda for... for its domestic audience, there are also many surprises, i think, waiting for such an audience that is sufficiently human like

they are constantly talking to themselves, so we will ask them how they reacted to this tape there, for example, the audience was different, different, how they reacted, for example, to the description of the film "brothers brat-2" with all the moments that take place there, but now let us consider the situation in order, i will remind you. about this tape in general, where did it start, anastasia trofimova, now we can see her, a director who positions herself as a russian-canadian, and she filmed for world broadcasters, but she also filmed for russia there, she has quite a lot of films filmed and visited combat operations, and now she filmed a documentary called "russians at war". and here she tells us that now we can also see excerpts from this film, and... she tells us that on the train she met a military man, a ukrainian who is fighting on the side of the dnr, and he

says: come on anastasia, come come to us and film our war, no problem - says anastasia, and for seven months, she is filming this war, there she is just very much the same, and she sits there for seven months absolutely unnoticed by various special services and simply communicates with the military and films them. and then edits a tape from all this and sends it to the venice film festival, where it goes in the non-competitive program, by the way, together with our film, or rather with our two tapes, and there it will receive a lot of positive feedback, we ukrainians, our ukrainian women girls, producers, directors who went to the venice film festival to present their films, by the way, shot without state funding, and they watched the film, producer daria basel wrote response, and from this began a disturbance in our

country, this disturbance grew into a whole wave, because diplomats got involved, and diplomats in canada got involved, because then this, this film was to be shown at the also prestigious festival in toronto, and there our consul and khrystia freeland, the minister, they started to make some statements, but the film... was initially canceled due to the protests of ukrainians, but then the screenings were resumed after, well, these were some special screenings, they were not planned, and what is special, so there is such a thing hollywood reporter, one of the most prestigious american publications, in principle, one of the most prestigious, which is devoted to cinema, and there is an article about the position: the general director of this film festival in toronto, whose name is cameron bailey, and he

begins to tell fears and horrors about how they are poor, unhappy at this film festival were scared of ukrainian protests, because these were not just protests, they were aggressive protests, belli says, on the one hand he says: well, we can understand the feelings ukrainians, what's up, but they sent us threats of violence and... sexual violence, and this already crosses all boundaries, and here are these, but he did not present any evidence of this sexual violence, by the way, which was threatened, the ukrainians say. protesters in canada have already begun to suggest that various ukrainian filmmakers, in principle, people in social networks, that it is quite possible, someone, perhaps, wrote in some comments like, what if it was you who felt how you were being raped by these russian soldiers there, maybe you would not be so they are indulgent treated the characters of this film, i

mean, and maybe the canadian directors of this festival took it as... threats of sexual violence, well, let's listen to mr. cameron. for the most part, everything was civil and peaceful, but some of the threats were horrific. tiv employees received hundreds of verbal abuses in e-mails and phone calls. our employees also received threats of violence, including sexual violence. it's terrifying, and our employees are understandably terrified. terribly scared, sir bailey also says that there were two additional screenings of this film, that there were terrible security measures, because they were also afraid that the film crew would be attacked by ukrainian protesters and, i don't know, sexually assault them. it is obvious, and

it should also be noted, unfortunately, that now we can possibly look at how the ukrainian... protestors are protesting there, but if we did not see all this, we can also state, unfortunately, that the canadian, american , and in general the north american and world press, for the most part, has such positive feedback about this russian tape, well, it is clearly propaganda, but one of the most valid arguments against these protests of ours is that the majority of the protesters did not watch this tape. you and i haven't watched it either, we just trust the point of view of our female filmmakers who saw it in venice, at the venice film festival, and judging by the theses in this film, well, it's really propaganda, because the theses are just very standard, what exactly are these? theses they use for the western audience, what i mean is this whole

situation, when, well, the people are not to blame, let's feel sorry for these soldiers, well, look at them, what they are... educated, they are some kind of bad people, but they were forced to fight, they may not fully understand, these are also unfortunate people, the politicians are to blame, and so on, this whole song we know very well, especially since anastasia trofimova says at the beginning of her film that what the hell, i was so surprised when russia attacked ukraine in in the 22nd year, it was so unexpected, well, she absolutely does not say that russia attacked ukraine at all in 2014, and before that... it also attacked other countries, and this is not the first time that this has happened, and if she had said it, the eyewitnesses to the reaction of the public would have been a little different, but less so, we can also talk about the fact that, well, let's just listen to one of the quotes, for example, from the publication global and mail, so

what the author writes there. russians at war is a brave and exceptional documentary. unadorned shows the horrors of war, including some of the most gruesome footage you 'll ever see on the big screen. this documentary in no way glorifies russia, its military or its war effort. this film in no way demonizes ukraine. or her people, that’s how, well, we have to understand that this is the idea of ​​westerners about all these matters, we have to explain all this to them, because the russians understand, i don’t get tired of repeating it, how and on which audience to act, and judging by this, this movie russians at war is really made

qualitatively enough from an artistic point of view, and the director anastasia trofimova, she is quite... an experienced person, she filmed a lot for the world broadcasters, which, as i have already said, and therefore, and therefore we must understand that this is really implicit propaganda , moreover, there are many people whom we call naive, whom we can call leftists, who we can call not very trained people there, who live there somewhere in well-fed, civilized, prosperous countries and have no idea what russia is, they say, they do not understand what propaganda is. and do not read these moments, and here, for example, i can quote that in italian, this is how they thought about this film, here i quote: and i also quote one of the journalists, here, for example, italian culture is humane and conflict-free, italians despite all external emotionality avoids confrontation, therefore it is the italian

audience with its traditional orosophilia that is the ideal living environment for this kind of propaganda product, well, actually, if we talk about the future fate of this film, it will still be shown to many at various film festivals, for example, at the festival in zurich, there are as many as four... they have it, and this shows that there is really a lot of interest in this film, and they will also show the film by serhiy loznytsia, invasion is also like that, you know, quite a dubious story, sergey loznits, he is generally belarusian, has ukrainian citizenship, but he is like that, he lived in russia for a long enough time, and then, i think, at the age of 20, he already moved to live in germany, that is, he is completely out of context in ukrainian, but he is considered and positions itself. as a ukrainian director, i must say that, from my point of view, he is really a very talented person, and he and ukrainian cinema itself are known in the world because of

him, that is, he is one of the most famous, if not the most famous ukrainian director in general, and yet he is so russophile enough, he he doesn't hide it, he has a favorable attitude to russian culture, to the russian language, and against all these radical solutions that we all propose, he removed this one. well, more precisely, the people with whom he worked, who he hired, yes, in ukraine, they filmed him a video, and here he edited it in himself there, this is what he did with his previous tapes, that is , a person without context, a person who does not even want to immerse himself in this context, having come to ukraine , and i must also say about other ukrainian films, which are also currently in various film festivals, because you know, it turns out that this russian one... we talk a lot about it, and this is understandable, because we have to fight against russian propaganda , but it is necessary to fight with it, in particular, our tapes, so some, well, i

don’t know, call it an answer, or call it counter-propaganda, or just call it our good, understandable stories that will be our voice, for example, at the same film festival in toronto, the film you cosmos was shown , pavla ostrikova, which we talked about, this film seems to me, well, it should be a very cool, smart comedy. it will be released, as promised by producer volodymyr yatsenko, who is a military man, by the way, like almost all the people on the screen are located, he promised that there should be a rental in the fall, and this film tells about a truck driver, who is a truck driver, who is also an astronaut, here he is somewhere in space, while he was flying, the earth simply disappeared, it exploded, well, in short, there is no more earth , and he remained the only person in the entire cosmos, but later it turns out that... and there is another french woman, and they must meet somewhere, and he also has a robot that also helps him, this is his friend, well, we are very much looking forward to this film at the box office, let's talk about it

talk about it, and there is also a film under the volcano, what is interesting about it, it was also shown at the toronto film festival, it is about ukrainian refugees who left before a full-scale invasion abroad to tenerife, and here they are, they received this news about full-scale... but this is a polish film, not ukrainian, and it is a polish film that will compete this year, or rather next year, for the oscar, let's watch an excerpt, where to go , you will show me the way. and what next? let's watch, this is such a film, we wish it of course, we are waiting for success at the ukrainian

box office, it is interesting because the director damian kotsar, he says that the film is about ukrainian refugees, but it must be said that he positions this story as universal, which will be understandable to many people, that is, it family, parents, two children, and here they have to experience something, somehow, this whole event, we saw roman lutskyi on the screen and anastasia karpenko, and here are some of my favorite actors of ours, i hope that i will like this film, we are waiting for you , well, and there is also the film peaceful people by oksana karpovich, which was at the berlinale and which, according to people who were at this film festival , had a great impact on the audience there, let me remind you that the film combines. filming of the de-occupied kyiv region, de-occupied territories in general throughout ukraine, and all this is superimposed with the sounds of intercepted conversations of russians, russian

military with theirs. we are relatives and there, of course, forgive me, absolute trash happens, because i especially remember the conversation between the son and the mother, the son tells how he tortures men that he has there, and my mother says that yes, son, you are a good man, but if i were in your place, i would do the same, well, this is exactly what vester is telling us about this deep russian people, about which we we also say a lot that he seems to be against the war, but it turns out that he is not, it is this film... it was shown in ukraine at various film festivals, we are waiting for the rental, but now, if korniy hrytsyuk is already in direct contact with us they say that for now we still need to wait a little for the roots, i will say that we generally have the following problem, which but the global problem is that russia understands very well how to generally influence with the help of art, they developed this whole

plan. culture, a cultural myth, a myth about one's culture, and which is very difficult to fight against, which is very difficult to refute, there is something to refute, and it is also necessary to understand that we are not doing enough for this, because well, the truth must be told that ukrainian society and ukrainian, ukrainian officials, politicians, never made a special bet on culture, as an instrument of any kind of influence, culture in us always... was considered something, very, very secondary, you see, there were even fights with the ministry of culture, which until recently was called the ministry of culture and information policy, i would even say, information policy and culture, and there the greater bet was placed on there was a telethon and everything else, then the ministry was without a head for a long enough time, and now we see that the ministry has been renamed the ministry of culture and strategic communications, we have a new

head, mykola. tochytsky, who was a diplomat, and it seems that a bet will be made on these communications, on diplomacy, this is not bad, but in order to play diplomacy, cultural diplomacy, if something, well, to solve some cases, to convince foreigners of something with the help of culture, well, obviously, you need to have these culture and constantly producing something, unfortunately, if we talk about cinema, that's all, it is not produced, the films that were recently at the venice film festival, our ukrainian ones, they are made. without state funding, already our authors of original cinema, they are looking for where money elsewhere, because the state cinema is everything, it bets on serials, it bets on commercial cinema, on not very good quality cinema, which maybe should be, but obviously not at the expense of the author's, which goes to various film festivals, this is how we are, this is our history, i am not talking about the fact that we still

do not have any state policy, but... how should we act so as not to be reactive, so as not to put out fires, this is how we are running with that movie russians at war, but something is constantly there, and some some we organize protests, it shouldn't be like that, it should be already in 2.5 years, even more, to develop some kind of strategy, how we communicate these stories, because if there is any such russians, who are constantly sneaking into various film festivals, then obviously. this is not the first time or the second time, we have been seeing this for 2.5 years, and we should already be able to react to it. korniy hrytsyuk, we are finally on a direct line. kornia, hello, hello. i watched your movie, i have a preview, and i really liked it, first of all, and secondly, i, you know, now we can show

with well yo its trailer, you have, it seems, two trailers at once, let me remind our viewers that this is a film where you talk in general about how russia uses cinema as propaganda, and there you give an example of all these films that the western audience does not see, there like brother two and all that other stuff, and you know, i moved on and i caught myself thinking that this is some completely verified story that you have diplomatically, but you are simply based on theses, some of the biggest a... myths that exist in the minds of people there in western europe, in in america, in canada, about russians, about russian culture, you seem to be breaking things with this film, for example, you show there, well, the heroes of the film, yes, and you talk about the fact that russians, simple russians, they, for example, did not forgive the leadership of the loss in the first chechen war.