the programs provide financing for urgent needs, including the provision of housing, for the reconstruction of some houses, if these budgets are capable and have such funds, therefore , the issue of local budgets being capable in the future and in the next year is extremely important and acute. and this is relevant today, because the budget process is ongoing and the association of cities of ukraine advocates such... important issues that relate to the filling of local budgets, both in relation to pdpo and in relation to other sources of income. well, how we know that the communities say that they often do not have enough money for reconstruction, and then they do not refuse any offers from other countries to join, as, for example, in lviv, when there was a rocket attack, when several houses were damaged, and the minister , the prime minister of poland until... tusk

offered his help, but he offered help for reconstruction, he said that they will choose some houses that they will rebuild, it is clear that the rest of the houses, this will already be the responsibility of the city budget, and this large sums, these are very significant sums, too of course, there are state programs that are planned in the state budget for 2025, but these amounts, even though they sound very significant, are up to... hryvnias for the coupe and home programs, which provide for the restoration of damaged and destroyed housing, specifically for residential objects, but if we are talking about the need for more than 3 trillion, then this is as of the end of the 23rd year, we understand that such losses have increased significantly over the current year, then we understand that even these funds will not be enough, we also need other sources, other resources. these criteria have been met

some changes, now we are still waiting for the list of restoration areas to be officially approved at the level of a government decision, and the speed of development of restoration plans also depends on this. the challenges are actually these plans, yes, money, but not only that, because we have, as we saw in the plot, the one that the builders say... we are starting the restoration process, and again somewhere it can fly nearby, and this is also challenge, and besides, mostly men work at restoration facilities, because it is hard work, and men are primarily needed for on the front, what are the challenges cities are actually facing and the country is facing in the process of reconstruction, in general, such a challenge...

mostly related to the armed aggression itself, with the destruction of the infrastructure, but not exclusively, because the infrastructure was inadequate even before the armed aggression, i mean outdated equipment, outdated production, somewhere non -inclusive infrastructure in some institutions, it also needs updating, needs special approaches, in addition, today there are certain new regulations, new... requirements for various infrastructure facilities, and this must be taken into account during reconstruction. other challenges are, of course, the damage caused to nature, caused to the nature reserve fund , burnt axes destroyed, which greatly increased greenhouse gas emissions, we have a very strong impact on the ecology due to armed aggression, very... significant challenges

also concern the migration of the population of the internal displacement and departure of our citizens abroad, we understand that the communities will be restored when there will be a population in these communities, not then, but if the population will be able to return, and these should be interconnected processes, so we also expect the adoption at the state level of the state demographic strategy, which will determine what... some tasks, measures that will be implemented in order to return citizens to communities, maybe there will be some community support programs in the field of people support, we also have very significant educational losses, due to the fact that students have been studying remotely for a very long time, the quality of education has decreased, many do not have the opportunity at all.

those and the subvention that was provided on arrangement of shelters in educational institutions, she was in the 22nd year, she was in the 20th , the third year and in the 24th to the 25th year, unfortunately, funds are not provided for the arrangement of shelters in educational institutions, then, but the need is still, still there in educational institutions to create safe conditions for students there, these are the challenges you need to state policy, and i also wanted to ask you about roads and bridges, because sometimes people say where, what... . roads are not on time, there would be a roof over the head, but is it on time, how much is on time, and why is this, why is it important anyway? first of all , the road provides an opportunity to provide humanitarian aid, to provide some kind of urgent support,

in some cases it is the evacuation of the population, because we understand that there are such frontline communities that are very close to the line. front and it is necessary to be able to withdraw citizens, of course, this is the organization and provision of the defense of those settlements that are nearby, very close to the front line. what is the number of damaged bridges and roads that need to be restored now? ah, it's about 20% in total, over 20%. of all the losses that there are, and it is about 37 billion us dollars, as of the end of the 23rd year, thus, according to this rapid assessment prepared jointly by international institutions and the government of ukraine, which were

made at the end of the 23rd year, precisely such we operate with the data, we don't have new ones yet, how long will it take, is there any understanding needed? in order to restore all, all roads and all bridges, unfortunately, this cannot be said for sure, because it depends on many factors and from the amount of funding, from how quickly these funds will be provided, how efficiently all procedures will be carried out, how much labor will be sufficient for construction, but as you have already mentioned, there are certain problems. with the fact that a lot of workers and materials are needed, and it is also necessary to organize and find such resources, not only financial, but also human, material and technical, and others. mrs. tatyana,

thank you for the conversation, thank you for these numbers and for explaining where, what challenges we are facing we meet in the process of rebuilding the country. tatyana melnyk, expert. restoration of the municipal infrastructure of the association of cities of ukraine was our guest today, i remind you that you watched the special edition of the program of reconstruction and development of cities, thank you for being with us, my name is lesya vokulyuk and we will see you next saturday at 18:30, stay tuned to the spreso tv channel . in september, there are discounts on amiksin ic 10% in the pharmacies of plantain bam and ochad. in september, there are discounts on linex forte of 15% in psyllany bam and ochad pharmacies. the knee seized prematurely. take it

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saturday jack club, live broadcast. congratulations friends, we congratulate you, vitaly portnikov. andriy smolii. today, as always, we summarize all the events of the current week, talk, discuss, forecast, and, of course, analyze everything about ukraine. and the world in one program, and traditionally we will start it with vitaly portnikov, of course, from the security bloc, from security issues, because this is probably the most important thing in ukraine today, not only in ukraine, but also outside our country. so, probably, about what happened in the current week drones, and these are dozens and hundreds of drones, were struck by russian, so-called warehouses. ammunition and not only ammunition, rockets, various types of weapons, it also happened in

the krasnodar territory, it also happened in other, in particular, populated areas of the occupying state of the russian federation, according to various data, the explosions were so powerful that they were equal to approximately two or three units on the richter scale, like it's from... lethruse, right? mr. vitaly, these are the strikes on the territory of the occupier, on the territory of russia, the fact that warehouses are exploding, the fact that the occupiers remain, at least without some part of their weapons, how effective do you think it is, well, in general, from any point of view, and will it make putin russia, at least in part, give up. from any further plans, or to adjust, at least these plans in the near future,

i mean, in the war against ukraine. well, of course, in any case, we must understand that any war, and we know this very well from our own experience, depends on the availability of an arsenal, if you do not have enough weapons, you can have as many as you want to build various plans and ideas, but you have no possibility to... put these ideas into practice, by the way, by and large i have to say that the same applies to the situation related to the number of people in france , that is, if the russians do not have enough people. they were forced to retreat from the kharkiv direction, they did not have enough people to get this territory at the time of 2022, and now many people say, you know, indeed the russians knew about kurshchyna, but they did not have enough people, to receive this at the moment when they received information about a possible breakthrough of ukrainian troops, because if they had these people, they would have to be withdrawn from the donetsk section of the front, and they were

not interested in this, they believed that for them it was a priority task and thus they missed, if you like... this offensive, even with intelligence information about it, the same applies to the arsenal, it is obvious that now the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation is preparing for new intensive attacks on the ukrainian infrastructure, by the way, the official minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, andriy sabigo, already spoke about this, and in order to carry out such an attack, you need a sufficient number of missiles and drones, if you do not have enough missiles and drones, you collect them. you see how the latest attacks are happening. russia is collecting enough iskander missiles, cruise missiles, drones, and launching all of them at the same time, because this is the logic of any such combined attack, to overload the system against the enemy's air defenses to some part of the weapon hit the target. if there is not such a sufficient amount, then

there is no attack. by the way, here's a beautiful illustration, i think it's... the story of the assassination in tehran of the head of the hamas politburo, ismail haniya. do you remember how many screams and tantrums there were? now the action of revenge, we will strike, destroy with all our might. and then all the observers asked questions. well, they say it so beautifully. and where did they get such a number of rockets to carry out such an attack, if they just, just recently, carried out a massive attack on israel. do they have it? in the arsenals, in the arsenals, an even greater number of missiles are stored, and then why did they not use them in order to paralyze the air defense system of israel and its allies, it turned out that there is nothing, well here even taking into account some healthy logic, i think that it was illogical from their point of view to do this, because firstly, any effect

of surprise was lost, and secondly, we well understand that they also need to have some certain reserve, that is, that is, what the others said then, it was relatively speaking, illogical, and they just did it in a propaganda way, so the situation is the same in russia, of course, you and i cannot know for sure what broke out there, but judging by the effect in toropka, and in troitsky this one, well, and now in this one in october , these are already three warehouses and an airport in the kaluga region, these are all big losses, they will sit down now, accountants. not putin and they will count how much there was, what is left, it is obvious that they may still have enough arsenal, but we must first understand the first things here, such things, what does it mean that's enough, here they have the entire stock of their missiles that they had in their warehouses, well, ballistic missiles in particular, they had already developed them

in the first years of the war, uh, so now they are using these ballistic missiles in which they are. are doing it the right time, it takes a few months for a massive attack, so they can add to these missiles, it's like a dinner menu, foreign-made missiles that don't necessarily have to hit the target, if we're talking about north korean missiles, but they should paralyze the air defense system. well, in this situation, as you understand, when there are no north korean missiles, there is nothing to paralyze. it means that we will have to look for new stocks, which means how many of these iranian missiles are there, whether they actually exist, in what quantity, we don’t know, which means that this already reduces their capabilities, well, plus, if some drones are also destroyed, that’s all logic, this is the first such moment that i would like to tell you about, andrei, and the second is a signal for the allies, if possible with the help

of drones, to strike such a blow on russia's military potential, then imagine what it can... do with the help of missiles, and well, russia can plan its own war, a war at least until 2045, but it is necessary to fight with something, and again, this is not a plan, but i always try to explain, war is not a plan, it is opportunities, you can plan, and opportunities may not correspond, and another important point in this situation is that and even if we imagine that they have a large number weapons is located in the far east in siberia, i.e. at this distance of 300 km, it still takes time to rebase it all, safely, rebase it so it doesn't get hit. you understand that when a train with missiles and ammunition leaves from vladivostok, he does not buy a ticket for himself, and by the way, ukrainians too, especially do not buy tickets for the railway anymore, so you cannot

imagine how it is, it is a long way for missiles, so in this regard, of course, they have to say that this is really such a serious story, and in any case it slows down the process, we will see how now, but even... even in in terms of time, strikes on the infrastructure in conditional november and conditional march are different strikes, because you struck in march badly, they fixed it, something was replaced there, summer is coming, summer is coming, if you turn off the lights or something else, then it is a small tragedy for population, but in winter is a different story, they specifically want to create such a winter, you see, not even so that ukraine... there capitulates, but in order to create a demographic collapse, but they have two goals of demographic collapse, the first demographic the crisis in europe, the migrant crisis, because

europeans can accept as many refugees from ukraine as they want, well, that’s not exactly the case, they can, but the issue of social dissatisfaction is already there, and if you add a few million more people to it, you can get at least a political effect, it's not that people will... go out on the streets and shout, we want ukrainian migrants hanged, the way they did with the middle eastern migrants, no, they 'll just vote for the alternative for germany or for sarovneh, and that that moscow pursues as a task of a strategic nature, that is, the coming to power of pro-russian forces in europe, this is one thing, and the second is that there are fewer people here, i always say that it is a demographic war, first of all, here we have many people... and you know, this soviet way of thinking is, by and large , fixated on the territory, that is, war is usually perceived as an exception,

as a war not for independence and freedom, but for the restoration of territorial integrity, for the triumph of international law, i support this approach as well , but restoration between territories international law must be accompanied by the preservation of the population, so... yesterday was another anniversary of the second karabakh war. freed karabakh, azerbaijan, a huge part of its sovereign territory, from vermen control. and people there appeared on this one. it is essentially empty, of course, maybe even this district of karabakh, there is shusha, stepanaker, where there were cities with infrastructure, some people may settle there, but in general it is just an empty territory. but again, azerbaijan did not lose anything from this, because it has people as much as there was, so much remained in the territory where they lived, and ukraine, you see, here we are, as the russians think, we are waging a war, we cannot capture them all,

but we can simply clear their own territory from them, well after the war there will not be 40 million of them, but 15, well, already a victory, already a victory, even if you have to agree with the fact of ukraine's sovereignty, even if you have to agree with the fact that... it will join the european union and nato, even under these conditions, the later we agree, the more the more difficult, i would say, the standard of living we make for them here, the fewer there will be here, well , mr. vitaly, you mentioned the conditional november, yes, by conditional november we understand that these could be strikes on the energy infrastructure , and it is clear that it can be. october, it could be november, it could be december. when there are enough rockets. and it is clear that they are already preparing, that is, even according to the data of all those monitoring

various resources, we see that russia is actively preparing, during the last, at least two weeks, delivers rockets, all this is recorded, including with the help of satellite images. today there was another interesting statement, even two statements: the first statement was from the prominent, current minister of foreign affairs , mr. sybigy, he stated that russia is preparing to strike the energy infrastructure, but i want to note here that we are talking about the objects that are located in the conditional complex of nuclear power plants, that is, if you explain to the audience so briefly, there is a nuclear power plant, of course that russia it is unlikely to hit the station itself, but we still have to understand that next to these stations there are er... here are these distribution energy facilities, they, they have already done it, and now mr. sebiga is saying that russia is going to actually hit these distribution capacities, and... after

that there was another statement, this is already a statement from the office of the president of ukraine, and actually in this statement it was similar, only in a more dramatic tone, it was said that in this case, in if there is such a blow, and if moreover, if there is any damage, as far as i understand, to, uh, nuclear power plants, then there may be radiation, which will also spread to the countries of the european union. here are these two statements, they came out. today, and they refer to ukrainian intelligence, this means that such strikes are already in fact already somewhere on the way, that is, ukraine in this way, as far as i understand, is trying to preempt such a process, i do not know to what extent we can preempt such a process, because the russians are always trying to find a weak point, you are absolutely right about nuclear ones they are not going to hit power stations, it is not that...

they are not going to, i don't think they can, because what can be really done there, but if you hit distribution stations, they have already seen it once, you are in in principle, you force the nuclear power plant to stop, i don't know what the radiation threat is and i don't know if we need to scare europe all the time, but it will mean that we have an unexpected key to nuclear energy, because many people said, well, what can the russians us to do, they still can't stop our nuclear ones plants, if they can't take them under control, i'm za... kos, then these nuclear plants will produce as much energy as we need for the population and industry in the winter, they will not freeze us, well, it turned out that there is this achilles heel and you have to think about it, these are distribution stations, if you shut down the distribution station, it can't take power from the nuclear plant, then the nuclear plant has to shut down its reactors because it's producing more energy than it can put on the market, well

it's so real. well, i don't know, listen, we, i again, i would not like us to talk in dramatic tones, we know the goals of russia, the goals of russia, as i listed in this program already from the point of view of its demographic war with ukraine , these are logical goals for the aggressor, for our allies it is also absolutely clear, so it is necessary to take certain measures to protect these objects, if possible, perhaps these statements are, in fact, a prerequisite for forcing our allies to strengthen the west, additional defenses of the air defense system, andriy sebiga appeals to magate, but magate cannot do anything, we no longer have a system of international law in which some international organization influences the sovereign government, well, we just have to realize that we can pretend that it is so, but it's not like that, and in this situation, as you understand, all that remains is to think about

what we are going to do... about the threat, you see, we don't have to warn about the threat, we have to warn ourselves about the threat in order to , to survive this winter, by the way, and the next one, that is it may not be the first winter of such a war, but conventionally speaking, this is not the first, it is the third, but it may be the fourth out of the fifth, well, you just have to prepare to survive winter after winter with the population in our country, and not for its borders, that's all, so here i completely agree with you, and of course you need to talk to people, you need to... explain, you don't need, as they say, to close your eyes, but still say frankly that yes, winter can really be difficult, and indeed we must prepare, each of us must prepare for what with conditional november, well, we will have to somehow, somehow survive these few months, at least. we have a short break, literally for a few minutes, and i'll be back.