i do not think that such an invitation will be in the near future, i am convinced that bankova simply raised the bar as much as possible, because this is to some extent, perhaps, a visit of desperation, because volodymyr zelensky went for money, for weapons, for permission to remove any restrictions on the use weapons, because the further success of ukraine in this may depend only on this. no, the fact that it was called a victory plan, well , on the one hand, it is a good media topic for ukrainians, to raise some mood in ukraine, in the ukrainian army, on the other hand, it is obviously a tool of pressure on the west partners, because after all, the president came with a plan to win, everyone wants to win, probably, but something tells me that with such experienced guys as joe biden and the rest of the campaign, such tricks probably don't

work very well, therefore, once again, the more zelenskyy brings from his trip, the better, despite the fact that i think he is doing it these days for a reason, because i think bankova is still learning from his mistakes, if you remember you see, a year ago, on the same days, plus or minus, volodymyr zelenskyy also spoke in the un security council, in the un general assembly, but then they absolutely. did not give special importance and special attention to the issue of the adoption of the aid package for ukraine, because no one doubted that it would be voted there in the coming weeks, and then, as we all know, ukraine paid too dearly for the fact that there was a delay of almost 6-7 months, now in fact the visit to the un general assembly has become secondary, the issue of promoting the so-called victory plan is put first, but once again it is... a visit for

money, for weapons and for resources and for trying to convince joe biden to change the course of history after all, he 's used that rhetoric a lot over the past 30 months, but he's hardly done anything to make it happen. i think zelenskyi and yarmak will try to convince him as much as possible, change his mind and make some important decisions in the few months joe biden has left in office. zelensky began to use the rhetoric of many experts who have used it for the past one and a half to two years, that time is playing against us, and he is absolutely right, we don't have time so much, and if the american partners and other key allies agree to give it to us, then of course it will be very cool, but again, for nato, i have expectations, well, not that pessimistic, just give me another 30 seconds, i will take time, if i agree to ...

inviting ukraine to nato means agreeing to implement the fifth article regarding ukraine, but how will it be implemented, i.e. fighting side by side with ukraine, if they don't even want to give us permission to use long-range weapons again it is not known about which one quantity, that is, how many of those missiles we have in general is also unclear, that is, there are no indicators that indicate that we will be offered to join nato in the near future. , there must also be a plan for defeat, if for ukraine the plan is a plan for victory, then for russia it is accordingly a plan for defeat, and obviously, with this plan for defeat, if it is close to the plan for victory, then it does not suit our western partners very much, because judging by the dynamics of how they try hand over weapons to us and which ones. weapons and undecided

in its decision regarding strikes on russian territory with western weapons, this means that, in fact, putin's regime and russia are now under such protection from our western partners, can it be successful and can there be a plan for victory without a plan for defeat, which our large cohort of our westerners should adopt. this is a very important issue and it is probably quite broader, broader than our discussion that was before, but i would like to support my colleagues who spoke, and here we are i think that there are no differences in our desire for the success of ukraine and the success of our state, and especially andriy, who obviously participated a lot in certain corporate...

negotiations, he knows that the bar should always be the highest, in any case the membership in nato, we have it written in the constitution, so this is, well, an absolutely clear political position, which... well, from which, i think, any politician who is, well, really ukrainian, will not back down, can it be resolved at once, well, yes , this is already an open question, and here is the fifth article and so on, although you know, a lot of nato members, well , at least in such private conversations, parliamentarians from nato member countries, especially those closer to russia, they are not so sure about the fifth article, because they... say, well these are consultations, it may take time, and such small countries as the baltic countries, well, they are taken over much faster than these consultations will take place, so, well, in addition to this umbrella , there must be really certain such commitments, yes,

very clear obligations on military support and support, by the way, military potential and production of weapons in ukraine, i think this will be one of our topics. which we will discuss, but well, it is obvious that we will become such a great israel in the matter of military technologies, that is, all technologies related to the production of weapons, by the way, just the case of israel, it is interesting, they do not have membership in nato, but have an annual term in the budget of the united states, and this money is annually allocated to arming israel. and are not discussed in the way that they are discussed whenever the subject is involved ukraine, therefore, well, actually there are different options, but of course, for the state, for us, for our future, it is better to have this, well, clear commitment to nato. again,

i'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but it should be a clear guideline that it's not just important to us, it's vital to us . and this is also a guarantee of non-repetition, because no one wants a huge conflict in the heart of europe again in 10 years, well, at least we want to think about it, so the partners do not want, including due to electoral issues. you already mentioned that what the british foreign secretary david lammy said that the war could go on and... 25 26 i will quote mr. lammy exactly what he is talking about, a critical time for courage, patience and resilience on behalf of the allies , who support ukraine, i, as the minister

of foreign affairs, of course, will not comment on the details of the operation, because it can only be, well, it means striking on the territory of the russian federation, it can only... help putin, but between allies in real time is going discussion of how we can support ukraine in the run-up to winter, and the main obvious question is how ukraine itself can support itself in the current situation and, in particular, regarding the deployment of weapons production, because lemy says that the war will continue there at least until 26th year. but it is not yet certain and even more possible. there is information that now every second ammunition on the front is of ukrainian production, this was stated by the minister of defense rustam umyerov, if in the 23rd year the ukrainian share of ammunition

was 18%, then in the 24th year it was 41%. he says that ukraine has increased its long-range capabilities several times. in 2024 , the ministry of defense alone contracted drones for over uah 21 billion and ammunition for them for another uah 9 billion. in total, more than 1 million drones were purchased. in addition, ukraine was the first in the world to introduce drone swarm technology. in the last year alone , it was possible to destroy or damage more than 200 units on the enemy's territory. well, we are actually talking about the formation of a large... which will work for the defense and security of ukraine. mr. oleksii, do you see the general strategy of how our economy should go on war rails, because if lemy says that the war can continue into the 26th year, that means that

the next budget of 2025 should be passed, in which including taking into account those needs that are necessary for national security and. thank you, before i answer your question, i still have to answer a little, because here i was accused that i do not know the constitution well about nato, so i would like to dear ms. yevgenia. and to remind all ukrainians what is in the constitution ours is a lot of other things, and about the fact that ukraine is a social country, about nadro, which belongs to the people, and about the market economy, the grassroots committee, the law enforcement system, competition and so on and so on, so you know, let's not convince each other , because you already told us that tomorrow we will join the european union, tomorrow we will join, and you see, recently mrs....

if you look at my quotes, it is also like that before the end, that is why i lead to this, i am a realist, unlike many cosmonauts, yes, who are in power today, well, not today, they came to power in the 19th year, and i proceed from reality, yes, but life will show, which of us is right, and therefore, returning to your question, mr. serhiy, it is certain that we... we are ending the 24th year, the 25th is on the nose, yes, we have 2.5, soon it will be three years of a full-scale war, and we are now discussing how the economy should have been transferred to war zones, yes, and i apologize, it should not have been done now, it is then to prepare realistically for the war, and not to show each other's backs, if that is the case in the grand scheme of things, you understand, that's why it's real. during the war, there was a certain mobilization of intellectual potential,

financial resources, and it was not spared there, agree, very serious money was poured into the defense industry system, and not everything there was so efficient, but nevertheless, i hope, there are really positive changes there took place, and you know, it is a very optimistic event for me, but i just today passed such an interview, it is very interesting with aksakav, with a person... very respectfully academician volodymyr pavlovich horbulin, who, by the way, directly, directly participated during all the years of independence and the last years, precisely in order to make this defense plant of ours work, and you know, that's exactly volodymyr pavlovich, i listened to him, his arguments, his confidence that, after all, technologically, ukraine is able to emerge at the expense of intellectual and professional potential, and for me... it was much more, well, his statements inspire more confidence than certain statements

representatives of the government, well , today i have built trust in the government and in its statements, i think, i am not the only one, but let's hope that our defense industry is really gaining momentum, it really needs to be supported financially, because it is very expensive pleasure, by the way, today you saw president zelenskyi, where... a visit to the factory for the production of 155mm projectiles, which we would really like to have been produced there for a long time, but this interest is probably not accidental, just like the interests to any other weapon, therefore here we all have to concentrate and unite our efforts to make sure that there are really ukrainian missiles, which gorbulin says, that they should be ukrainian missiles and of the appropriate range, and then we will feel confident, and by the way, mr. zaluzhnyi , he quotes, who stated this two years ago,

well, by the way, you mentioned, mr. oleksiy, about zelenskyi’s visit to this plant, there was such a big stretch against the background of which the president was signing these projectiles that are being produced, yes on this banner it was written that victory on the battlefield begins at the factory, well, we see, and now... it's a beautiful slogan, which, in principle, should be motivating, including for the ukrainian side, for the ukrainian authorities. mr. andriy, how fast can our economy go and is it necessary to transfer the economy to military lines, and will it give a boost to the economy, because these are new jobs, well... as for security, there is, of course, a question in case of shelling by the russians, long-range weapons and

drones, the question here is the safety of these enterprises that will produce and make the the weapons that we are asking so much in the west, and some of these weapons could be produced in our country? sergey, you know, any discussion is effective when all parties equally correctly understand the meaning of the words, and we do not have such an impression very well. on the 31st month of the great invasion, we all understand the word mobilization from... media, and at the level of ordinary citizens, i have the impression that under the word mobilization, of course, is enlistment in the army, which is absolutely not the case, because... the terms are clearly defined in the laws, and when at the state level, the word mobilization is used when the president signs a decree on mobilization, and the verkhovna rada approves it and has done so dozens of times already, because we have continuous mobilization, so let me remind you that it is written in the law that mobilization is a set of measures carried out for the purpose of planned transfer of the national economy,

activities of state authorities, other state bodies, local self-government bodies, the enterprise base. organizations to function in the conditions of a particularly special period, that is, the whole point the word and term mobilization, which is included in the presidential decree from february 24, in the transfer of the entire country to work under a state of emergency, that is, it should have happened from february 24, 2022, so now we have to ask the question whether we should transfer the country , and to ask the question, how did we do it, and if we didn't ... hit, then why, what questions should be asked, and the real situation with the production of weapons, again, this is our favorite urge to discuss state secrets , she is, she is probably better than anyone could have imagined, but it is absolutely obvious that the ukrainian production capacity will not be enough to cover the real needs of the front, especially

if we repeat last year's trajectory. when the aid from the united states is reduced, so now an event of great importance, we have not mentioned it today, it seems that on october 12 joe biden will make a farewell visit to germany as president, and as far as i am informed, key leaders of the uk will be invited, france that the least, and they will meet there, i think, most likely, to decide the fate of the aid. country, that's probably where it will be decided whether zelensky's so-called victory plan will be supported and, in general, what are our prospects for the coming years, the production of weapons we are doing, again in your briefing you voiced all the public figures that you and i the same was heard from ukrainian officials, no one knows other numbers, and if

someone wants to discuss some other numbers, it will probably not be confirmed by anything. thank you, mr. andrii, probably with the fact that spending on the army and defense will increase, and related changes in tax legislation, because on the 15th, as i understand it, a law must be passed by october 15th, which will probably start to apply retroactively from october 1st , well, at least that's what your colleague yaroslav zheliznyak said, i'll just remind our viewers that the government bill already includes tax increases. and this is an increase in the military levy from 1.5% to 5%, an increase in taxes on the first and second groups of fop, advance payments of az, 1% on all forms of fop of the third group, 25% of profit for financial institutions, monthly reporting of personal income tax, 50% tax on bank profits in the 24th year, ms.

yevgenia, does this mean that if... we will develop this military economy and mobilization on this war economy, that this is not the last tax increase, and obviously we are going to have another tax increase, because it is clear that we cannot live in debt all the time, or if we live in debt, we have to understand what we will be just to cover my expenses, which are inside the country, well, i still anyway, with your permission, i will answer the previous questions that were answered by my colleagues, i hope that the other question is not related to my article, because yes, usually men ask about weapons, and women not so much, but oh well less, colleagues have not voiced this, but these are completely public figures, i agree with andriy that it is not necessary to say in general what should not be said, but it has already been voiced, our defense industry works now at a third and can

work much more, and does not work only due to lack of funding, it is in something to do with taxes, obviously we can't cover it with our taxes, that's why there is such an initiative, it's called gunsmiths, and it's actually a kind of fundraising from western budgets for countries in other countries to invest in our industry, we have now prohibited export, and this is absolutely correct, because i believe that it would be, well, from the point of view of communication , it would be a nightmare, yes, it would be a nightmare, if we... sold weapons abroad and at the same time asked for weapons from the western allies , that is, we buy back weapons much less than we can to produce it. this requires money. of course, we ask other countries, especially those that are not so concentrated on their own production, and the first countries that allocated funds to ukrainian industry, that is, to

ukrainian production, and there were these photos in the background of bohdana, so i will not be here also reveal a big military secret, this is denmark, they allocated the most, this is the netherlands, and this is canada, is this enough, obviously not, part of the funds, by the way, also came from these frozen, or rather, profits, taxes on profits on frozen assets, but this is not enough, at least we lack 10 billion dollars a year to finance our own sector, that is, workshops can work in more than one shift, in three shifts, and for this we need funds, and regarding the increase in taxes , i probably won't reveal the big secret either, that all are military. we finance expenses from our own expenses, the exception may be when, if we finally receive, according to the decision of j7, and

funderline spoke about this when she came to ukraine, the funds that we directly advance we receive from frozen revenues, precisely from these taxes, and then we can spend them on armaments or there on the costs of the army or on wages, but in general until ... we finance our military expenses from what we earn in various ways, these are taxes, these are customs duties, these are the vdp, special funds and so on, but this is what we earn, and if the people's deputies have a choice, whether to pay the fighting or pay wages to those who are on the front lines , well, obviously, well, the choice is objective and obvious, yes need to pay i don't know, maybe ms. yevgenia, we need to take the money that is laundered every year, and according to

preliminary estimates, it is about 150 billion hryvnias. when your team came to power, they said that they would carry out customs reform, and i remember very well how president zelensky arranged meetings with customs officers, asked what phones they have, what cars they have, it seems to me that it is necessary to hold another meeting with these customs officials, but already surrounded by the heads of the sbi, the ministry of internal affairs, the sbu, and simply force don't allow these guys to build somewhere in the west, pay to the budget, for these schemes that exist, i can answer, please, please, you know, they always operate with such billions, billions that are washed away, really the customs ... to work better, and by the way, the verkhovna rada voted on a draft law related to customs reform, i'm not saying that everything was fast or could really

work faster, but objectively, when there is a question whether to pay the military in september or not to pay, i don't know, maybe to others deputies did not receive these e-mails there from various military units, well, they actually came to me there too. the question for the next few days is when the president will sign the budget increase of about 500 billion, and they are, of course, connected, among other things, with raising taxes. thank you, mr. oleksiy, you receive such eskies, do you think they will sell? e-mails, no, i have some others, and sometimes they call me and they want to offer me to join an online casino, yes, that is, we forbid it. and they call there and, unfortunately , the military also play in these casinos, you know, and unfortunately, they don't pay taxes either, because this is one of the sources that could be replenished a lot,

well, they probably make very good money there, and that's why there are around this casino, you see, there are such manipulations all the time, i'm talking about taxes, well, here is a very simple and difficult question, it is clear that no one likes taxes, well, the population, first of all, and business also do not like taxes. moreover, i undertake to assert that ukrainians have long been taxed with other taxes, but in the absence of real energy, gas, and electricity markets, you well, you understand very well that the so-called market price for gas, and the so-called new price for electricity, and the market price for electricity for business, this is essentially a tax, this is an additional tax on all of us, and it, by the way, will continue to grow in the near future, but these taxes, as when... it is really covered up that money, money is needed for defense, for salaries, well, it is difficult to deny such a weight, but on the other hand, here is me and our faction, we will do everything,

to show colleagues in... discussions on and after the first reading, but we have to to vote secondly, that there are many other sectors where this money can be found, we are perfectly ready to show, customs is a matter of course, cigarettes, the same taxes, excises and so on, and in energy, it is wrong, in my opinion, and not only in the energy industry, state-owned companies have a completely wrong view, well , they lead their politics by paying dividends, and their so -called independent... supervisory boards allow them to do this, because it is probably beneficial to someone, this is a separate discussion, we would have someone to discuss with, so that at least someone looks, listens to these arguments, you understand, but to impose taxes, well, the easiest thing that can be in this situation, but agree, today many people do not have enough money, just thank you, we have to finish, sorry, there is not enough time, we will talk with andriyemchuk already in the next broadcasts, i will definitely give more.

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