now there is such a crossroad, i.e. either the normal system of company management will be restored, when the supervisory board is created, it must have the majority of independent people who supervise the company's activities without any consideration of anyone's whims , well, without saying, there is such a good word i don't know it's simple in the ukrainian language. this word is not from ukrainian, not from ukrainian realities, that's why it sounds like smotryachy and, not from ukrainian realities, but still, yes, yes, yes, the question is that the institution of smotryachy - this is, conditionally, what should be forever, we must forever forget it in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or, if you want, civilized institutions of the civilized world, if we go there...

then it is precisely such institutions that we need to build, and of course we must not forget that state companies are public property, the property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone, and sometimes officials forget this and begin to identify themselves as if they were the owner of a state company, and that is why supervisors are needed council to insulate the company from such negative possible impact. in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory board performed this function for several years, and i really hope that after the situation with my dismissal, the new supervisory board that has already been created will be restored, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which has already maintained the power system in ukrenergo for three winters extremely difficult conditions, combined it with european energy.

the system did a lot in order to strengthen the defense, that this team will be allowed to work quietly, well, that is, and what a time it is interesting now, well, again, we have to understand, there are acting responsibilities, oleksii brecht, whom you know, about whom you mentioned, and the work continues, i understand that the train is moving on the same, the same track to nowhere regardless of what time there is for that . understanding, this person will perform his duties without this prefix or without this prefix, will they still find some other person and will these searches according to your information continue here, it is important to understand that it will come a specialist in relation to mr. brecht, it is clear that a person who has been there for 25 years has experience in the energy sector and there are no questions here. this is one of the most experienced, most qualified energy specialists in this country. very difficult to find. you

can imagine even someone who could surpass oleksii in terms of competence, i worked with him side by side for many years and i can say this for sure, if we imagined that you and i were in norway, how would the process be, and a supervisory board should be created, which consists of seven members, now two are gone, four of them independents, now there are not three at all, but uh, four independent members should be elected. this supervisory board, after that the supervisory board conducts an open, public, transparent competition for the head of the company, not by the criterion of his personal loyalty to someone, not by the criterion of whether he is somewhere, you know, with whom he drank vodka, or with whom he is friends, or who is his relative, and according to the criteria of professionalism, correct values ​​and his, so to speak... or her

ability to actually lead the company at this very moment, in which it is, and we we are, let me remind you, on the eve of a difficult winter, and based on the results of this competition , a manager, a new head of the company, should be chosen, whether it will be oleksiy or not, whether oleksiy will even apply for this competition or not, these are questions that can be asked only after this new independent supervisory board is created, and that's how i was elected in 2020... a candidate, i was elected in a competition where there were 40 or 50 people, that was the whole process , which lasted for several months, and i won this competition and was there appointed in august of the 20th year, that is, four years ago, this is exactly the kind of competition that should be held this time as well, have you had cases when the president called you on a mobile phone, no , not on a mobile phone, and the same phone must be an official or and not by service, is there a service phone? but my communication with the president,

as a rule, took place within the framework of some meetings, either on-site, or in the office of the president, or within the framework of rate meetings or other... formats, but not through a mobile phone and not through an office phone special communications, well, me at all, honestly saying, i doubt that these special forces are being used so actively at the moment, after mentioning the president, and he said words that are, in principle, correct, we need to move, but build, increase, spread, as they say, with this security to strengthen the energy sector, the president said that one gigawatt of gas-powered shunt generation would be built, and then there was a statement, well, this is from the president, a plan is given, a mandate is given,

and there are people who have to implement it, then there was a statement from the minister of energy, said that we already have 400 mw, and you said in the interview that we have since then + 60 megawatts, that is, we understand the difference, but realistically, how much is 460, and what needs to be done in order for this, this is the order the president about one gigawatt, you said that we lost half of what was last winter, well, at least plus one, why isn't it not done, or what is needed for that to be needed for that to be done ? well, first of all, how many new decentralized generation units have actually been built, not generators nearby. ticket shops, no ekoflo, which ukrainians bought, to which the ministry of energy has nothing to do, namely, the new generation that will work in the energy system, i emphasize up to 60 mw, not even 60, but up to 60 mw, and what is it to simply understate what 60 mw is? i will explain,

as i said, we lost 9 gw, i.e. 900 mw, the new generation has been put into operation today . up to 60 megawatts have been put into operation in the energy system, and about half of them are two such small power plants, let's put it this way, and one of them was connected, these are small, of low power, and one of them i have been connected to the network for a year and a half, in general, that is, at such a pace, if we continue in this spirit, then we will need, i don't know, a decade. to replace the generation that was destroyed by the russian missiles, which was lost this year, but we also lost generation in 22 and 23 , well, that is, this is also grease, and these are coal-fired thermal power plants, these are gas-fired thermal power plants,

mainly these it's that kind of station, so what needs to be done is to stop trying to be centralized. forces states to build decentralized generation, what is decentralized generation, this is when instead of one coal-fired power station with a capacity of one thousand megawatts, you have 100 small power plants with a capacity of 10, conditionally, i say conditionally now, this means decentralization, that is the same principle that is used our soldiers on the battlefield, dispersion, no one tries to gather 100 tanks, 200 armored fighting vehicles and 400 people in one place, on one square, right? likewise, in the energy industry, the energy industry is under fire from the enemy, under by the fire of the enemy, accordingly it must be dispersed, er, in order to do this, it is necessary to attract private capital, not

to try to build hundreds of small power plants with the help of state-owned companies, simply giving them a command, you need to manage 100 mw, you need 300, you 200. go do it, and how you do it, no one is interested, of course, it is necessary to create the conditions for private capital to start massively investing in the new ukrainian generation, this is definitely a task facing the ministry of energy, as the ministry responsible for this sphere, and it is, strictly speaking, responsible for the score on the scoreboard on 12/31/2024. we will see this score on the scoreboard, so far this score is not very impressive, and what worries me the most is an obvious attempt to embellish the reality there from the rostrum of the parliament or in the public space, talking about hundreds of megawatts of new

generation, no hundreds of megawatts of new there is no decentralized generation, as far as i understand, they are trying to add to this figure the restoration of broken thermal power plants. still in soviet times, some generators, diesel generators, which are installed in the regions, at boiler houses, at small pumping stations, but this is not generation. these are power sources after the outages began, they do not work on the power system, well, in the daily mode, so we are talking only about those power plants that will essentially replace the coal-fired power plants and thermal power plants that were destroyed by the enemy, and we have such unfortunately, several dozen of these power plants have to work on what, on different types of fuel, on gas, ugh, of course, this is such a traditional pa... for modern thermal generation, but i will just ask right away, i heard a statement in the government,

in my opinion, it was a sly, but i am afraid to lie, i just remembered that this year we plan to run on gas from our own production, i just i know that if you build dozens of power plants, then buy gas, again the price of this gas and all this will fall later, and when a private investor does it, he already knows what the price of electricity is... today on the market wholesale, not for the public, it has none relation to tariffs for the population, it is related to prices for business, today there is a price for business, there is a price for gas, accordingly today burning gas in modern gas turbines, gas piston power plants, you can sell electricity from this gas with a profit, ugh, and private business , by the way, is very actively ready to invest in these things, and we at ukrenergo have been doing just that in recent months. creating conditions for private business so that private business invests in the new ukrainian

generation, in particular, what we have done with the energy regulator from the ncp, the liberalization of prices on this wholesale market for business and the long-term contracts that ukrenergo concludes with investors for 5 years, purchasing the service from these power plants from the 25th to the 30th year, thus... investor clearly understands how to pay off his project, he has a solid contract with a large state company, with the operator of the energy system, and he can bring this contract to the bank, take a loan, invest, get a profit on his investment, pay off the loan and get the corresponding profit, such contracts are currently concluded for 600 mw, well, according to the results, i will not ask about the works, because again, we will not. companies are given one year, this is a realistic term, one year to deploy new e-e systems of electricity production,

as well as energy storage systems, these are battery systems, the so-called battery storage, which are also very necessary for the energy system for balancing, so there are only two ukrenergo auctions for these services, 600 mw were given to those willing to build, which will start building right now, this is a private business, but... well, in the sector we still see much more modest results, and i think that the bet should still be placed on private business, because how much to build has been known for a long time, back in the 23rd year at the beginning we talked about the need to build decentralized generation, by the way, a lot was said about this in the press, but then another vision of energy development was brought to the london recovery conference, some kind of gigantomania, where it was necessary to build and invest 400 million new capacities,

well, western investors looked at it, they said, sorry, these plans are unrealistic, you are talking about some space, fantasies, we are business people, and we invest money in real projects, not in someone’s dreams, there are dreams and so on, and we lost time, in any case , now we are finishing, as they say, we will get as close as possible to the people. which, well , either to warm or to freeze this winter, we have to prepare here, i understand that in any case we are going through this winter, plus or minus some tens or hundreds of megawatts will be added to what is there now, here you are already they said about this year, that is, they understood that we will restore traditions on traditional generation, i will prove that as you advise people, it is so easy to prepare, so what to buy at home, maybe there is a posb, some big diesel generator can be bought, what if it is not... . a sharp increase in the intensity of russian shelling, that is, we cannot say that they will not occur

at all, but it is important that there will not be a sharp increase in intensity, that they will not be three or five times greater and more frequent, but we will have such the situation is that in the warm periods of winter, conditionally +2, there, well, up to minus 5, you said somewhere and zero -1, there will be either minimal outages, or there will be none at all during cold periods in... -5 -7 especially -10 -15 consumption will increase so much that it will not be physically possible to collect enough generation to cover it, ugh , and then from... there may be inclusions, what scale they will be, well, this is guesswork on the coffee grounds, but we can say that the deficit may be similar to some kind of summer deficit, ugh, that is, it is not july and, or august, it is very depends, again, on how many power plants will be restored, what will be the import of electricity, because in july we also

did not use our imports, unfortunately, at full capacity, we did not import all that we could have imported, because of the price. the price, but this is also a question for the leaders of the industry, how to ensure the complete filling of imports in winter, and i want to say by the way that and remind that the poles, the polish prime minister, in particular, proposed to attract polish power plants to work in ukraine in the winter, and it seems to me that this project needs to be dealt with objectively, in order to we got several hundred megawatts. here is the use of that imported capacity, which ukrenergo provides there, but which, unfortunately, is not used, less than a minute, i cannot help but ask this question, do you already have an understanding of what you will do later in life, i have approximate such, that is, it is a public service, a private business, i don't know, write a book, travel there,

support the armed forces of ukraine, whatever, i can definitely say that i will be in ukraine. we supported the armed forces very substantively in ukrenergo and we have supported them for more than 350 million there over the last one and a half years and of course due to my much more modest capabilities i will also do this, but i would like to work in one or more of the following areas, this is the involvement investments, this is european integration, because in fact, in the 22nd year, we brought ukraine. in the electric power eu, and i believe that this experience can be replicated throughout the country, that is the transformation of our energy system, that is the development of this new decentralized generation, it will essentially mean a new ukrainian energy system, cheaper, cleaner, more resistant to russian attacks, in

what format i will realize myself in these three directions, time will tell. i think in the next weeks-months, but for sure i would like to work in these areas, and to date i don't see a big request for it from the public sector, so i will be outside it for now. thank you very much, there are many questions, maybe not the last conversation, because actually there is a lot to talk about, it is a very interesting, important topic, in principle, but... to explain, explain, point out problems and, most importantly, ways to overcome them and solve them. volodymyr kudrytskyi was with us, he was the ex-head of the private company national energy company ukrenergo in 20-24 years, and you stay with the espresso tv channel. it will be interesting later. vasyl's big broadcast. my

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and caring people. espresso in the evening. see this week in the collaborators program. who did the occupiers put in charge of the captured cities in zaporozhye? i take on the temporary performance of the duties of the head of berdyansk. but how did the propagandist promote russian in ukraine culture? kyiv is once again occupied by fascists and neo-nazis. greetings, i'm olena kononenko, and this is a collaborator program about traitors who, following the call of their hearts and wallets, went to serve the rashi occupiers. for the third year, the zaporozhian part. oblast under occupation. during this time , the russians, with the help of collaborators, created occupation administrations, pseudo-organizations, tried to attract local residents to new fake russian institutions. offered money, positions and prospects, those who were pro-ukrainian were kidnapped, they tortured and even killed, and while the russian boot is trampling the ukrainian soil,

there are those who lick it deliciously. today i will tell you about the traitors who chose a tricolor rag instead of a blue and yellow flag in the occupied part of zaporozhye. the entire biography of this collaborator is dedicated service to the kremlin, promotion of russian peace in ukraine and efforts. the so -called zaporizhia people's republic. meet volodymyr valeryovich rogov, born in 1976. according to him, he was born in india, and his parents were born a few years ago moved to the ussr. in 1993, rogov graduated with a gold medal from school number 49 in zaporizhia, after which in 1999 he obtained a higher education at the faculty of economics and management of the zaporizhia national technical university, majoring in international economic relations. until 2000, he was the editor-in-chief of the dilove misto newspaper. and then rogof started doing business, became a co-owner of 20 employment sites,

and at the same time began to promote russian culture in ukrainian society, and according to zmi, rogof was a leader organizations slavic guard of dignity, banned after the revolution, and the international st. george union of youth. pro-russian orders were held under his auspices. actions st. george's ribbon, vaccination against fascism and children's contest grandfather's victory, my victory. as the russian people, i do not divide russians into ukrainians and belarusians. rogo used his puppet organization, the slavic guard, to promote kremlin narratives. so, in 2012, this organization paid for the placement of boards with putin in ukraine. later in the 14th year, the rogov guard was among the organizers of the anti-maidan in zaporizhzhia, held actions with... russian flags. in april 2014, vladimir appointed himself the so-called new governor of the zaporizhia region. he fled to bolot, where he regularly appeared on pro-government

russian television with incredible tales that he was allegedly kidnapped and interrogated in ukraine, that ukraine died on the maidan and generally wants to join novorossiya. unfortunately, today kyiv is once again occupied by fascists and neo-nazis. we see portraits of bandera, we see black and red... the mountains of the oun-upa army, which fought on hitler's side. the role of a pro-russian patriot who helps putin liberate ukraine and build a strong russian state appealed to rogovo. when melitopol was occupied by the russian army, this fanatic became the so -called representative of the zaporozhye administration and declared that the region allegedly wants to be part of russia, so after complete liberation from ukrainian nationalists, he is heading for a new life under the two-headed flag. chicken kyiv must be liberated, everything is very simple. putin not almighty, unfortunately he can't, bang. and they all became patriots, pro-russian oriented people who are building a powerful,

strong state. the diagnosis of this traitor is obvious, but this does not prevent him from moving on. melitopol was finally liberated. the army of the western front is the disarmament of foreign masters. there are us biolaboratories in ukraine, and this is only a small part of rogov's quotes, which he is serious about. you together make faces on sloppy russian television or in social networks. the zaporozhye region was directly the region from which she left novorossiya zaporozhians do not just link their future with russia, we are russia. well, of course, this henchman of russia has his own cesspool, into which he spits out his thoughts and so-called news. his telegram channel has more than 113 thousand subscribers. it was there in 2023 that rogov wrote that two were eliminated in berdyansk. of ukrainian terrorists, one of them is tigran hovhanesyan, a 16-year-old teenager who was held captive by the russians. now rogov is sitting in the temporarily occupied melitopol and

purrs with pleasure that his owners finally they gave him at least some position and threw up bloody rubles. in ukraine, since 2022, this seller has been on the nsdc sanctions list and has two suspicions. he received the first in 2022 for high treason. now. the case is being considered in the zaporizhzhya communarsky district court. the second suspicion came in july 2024 for encroaching on the territorial integrity and inviolability of ukraine. what is rogov's future? sentence and imprisonment for many years. our next collaborator of the zaporizhzhia region is a self-proclaimed mayor berdyanska saulenko oleksandr fedorovych, born in 1962, native of the village of novopetrivka , berdyansk district. on february 24, 2022, little was known about him. in 2020 , saulenko ran for deputy of the osypenkiv village council of the berdyan

district from a political party. for the future and did not pass, according to yocontrol, saulenko was the head of the structural formation of the union of left forces political party in berdyansk. for some time he was employed in russia, and according to the information of the adviser to the head of the presidential office , mykhailo podoliak, oleksandr saulenko was convicted of pedophilia. a classic scumbag and a harmonious member of the team of racist killers. when berdyansk was occupied, saulenko decided that this was his prime time and declared himself a me. i, oleksandr fedorovych, take on the temporary duties of the head of berdyansk. after the rule of the kyiv regime, which seized power as a result of a coup d'état, the whole country, including our region, is declining. what this traitor did in office, i think you yourself know, repainted the city in the tricolor, in key

positions, held pro-kremlin meetings like-minded people, persecuted activists and the military, slandered the russians and prepared an illegal referendum: i offer my congratulations on the victory of the united russia party in the elections, may the united russia party prosper, and the residents of the region feel protected and confident in the future. the occupiers were so satisfied with the falsification of the elections that they promoted saulenko to the head of the fake military award. administration of berdyansk. i urge everyone to unite and support russian president vladimir putin. our strength is unity. it was the unity of the people that always did russia is the winner. this unstoppable fanatic of the crazy bunker grandpa already has three suspicions from our law enforcement agencies. according to the investigation, this scoundrel is involved in the theft of 650 tons of ukrainian grain.

september 28. in 2022, the sbu notified him of suspicion of collaborative activities. in march 22, saulenko was sentenced in absentia to 15 years of imprisonment for treason with confiscation of property. a new suspicion was announced to him on july 17 for carrying out information activities in cooperation with russia. the return of our territories to our homeland port to the russian federation will be a new stage in the revival of our regions. saulenko was also placed on the nsdc sanctions list by presidential decree, and later on the eu and great britain sanctions. a good term is accumulating for this traitor, however , it is not necessary that saulenko will spend him behind bars, as i already noted, the life of a collaborator is so fragile and unpredictable. today you are sitting at an oak table in your office, and tomorrow you are already lying in the same oak. and finally, i will tell you about the 38-year-old.

despite the fact that we are quite recently became part of the russian federation, all people feel the importance and significance of these events that are happening now. before becoming a collaborator, oleksiy worked in the state executive service, and according to journalists, he simply did not give up, because... for that amount, he assisted some entrepreneurs in non-compliance with court decisions. after some time, alipov went to work at the military commissariat. and when the full-scale invasion began, oleksiy remained in the temporarily occupied territories of zaporozhye. i abruptly forgot the national language, hid my ukrainian passport in a drawer and got a new one - with a chicken. we need to rally and support the legitimately elected president of russia, volodymyr

volodymyr. i support his every word. at first, the occupiers appointed him to the position of the so-called head of the administration of the city of molochansk. apparently, this werewolf proved himself very well, because soon he became the fake mayor of tokmak. to date, the situation in the city of tokmak is stable. all city and district services are in place. our main enemy is on that side of the front, and it will be broken. putin, for russia, for a great victory. in general, everything is according to the krem method, which the collaborators carry in their breast pocket, everything is already written there for them, just repeat it on camera, and rubles will drip to you and you will sit in a chair. and while alipp jumped from one fake chair to another, our law enforcement officers recorded all his treacherous actions.