and the basis for all these appointed dismissals are non-professional criteria, the military can see this, because they know well who is who and who is from where, who did what before he was appointed, eh, this is a dangerous thing, because it can also to be one of the components of the defeat, if such a defeat is planned, after all, i want to believe that we are all aimed at victory, and there will be no more personnel mistakes, as for himself... obudanov, well, i think that he is quite a public figure who has long thought of himself outside the boundaries of gur, and in the case of a situation of unfair dismissal, in his opinion, he can and should speak publicly, maybe he will be the first person who was fired, and he finally told the truth in the last 5 years. thank you, mr.

volodymyr, for the conversation, i wish you good health, i know that you are in the hospital, so god grant you a speedy recovery, this was volodymyr omelyan, major of the armed forces of ukraine, former minister of infrastructure. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel on our youtube and facebook platforms, if you are watching us there, please like this video, subscribe to our platforms and participate in our vote. today we ask you about the following: are you satisfied with the work of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, yes, no, two options, or please write comments and your thoughts under this video. if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers: 0800-211-381, if you are satisfied with the work of the gur, if not - 0800. 11382. all calls to these

numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we have viktor shlinchak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. mr. viktor, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. thank you for the invitation, always glad to see and hear from you. on loan we have a very big and busy foreign policy week. president zelenskyy went on a tour of the united states of america, tomorrow he is to speak at the un general assembly, then he will present the victory plan to biden, harris and trump, but today it all started with the speech of biden, biden, on whom zelensky puts his hope, because he believes that this plan for victory should... be adopted or

accepted by washington even during the presidency of biden, what biden said about supporting ukraine from the rostrum, from the high rostrum of the un general assembly. let's listen, because this is very important. now the world has to make a different decision. when we maintain our support for ukraine in order for ukraine to keep. our sovereignty, we must do everything to ensure that the aggression does not repeat itself, and therefore, i want to assure you that we cannot look away, we must stand in solidarity with ukraine in order for ukraine to ensure a lasting and just peace with its victory. mr. victor, is the world ready to do everything, as joseph biden said , so that... it does not happen again, and ukraine

ensures a long and just peace with its victory. the world is much more cynical than we imagine, the world has much more interests, we imagine, and we basically count on one solution, but a lot of solutions actually satisfy us in that situation. and even this last one of biden, who finalized his stay in american politics, did not give the main answer to the question of whether the united states of america sees ukraine’s victory as we see it, or whether zelensky’s victory plan, which no one in ukraine has yet seen , can he help our...

western partners, first of all, the americans, to understand and consider whether they can help us win over russia, because in all the rhetoric. of our western partners, it is said that ukraine is not must be defeated, but this rhetoric is missing the phrase that russia must be defeated, and putin's regime must be changed, or he must answer for the crimes he commits on the territory of the ukrainian state? and this is serhiy, in fact the most important question, why we don't have it. this is exactly the slogan and why it has not been used until now, because the west is still worried so that an even greater escalation does not take place, in the hearts of the americans there is even more escalation, this is the beginning of the third world

war, and actually in both teams, and in the team democrats and in the republican team, there are very ... similar understandings in the same way that both republicans and democrats believe that while the putin regime is in power, until then it is necessary to somehow stop this war, put it on pause , and the issues will be decided by the next generations, the next presidents, in 5, 6, 10 years, and... precisely when the regime falls or weakens, after that it will be possible to use this window of opportunity, and such a position, unfortunately, yes, you can often hear it from european politicians who believe that

it is necessary to freeze the current state as soon as possible and then move to the waiting state. mr. victor. zelenskyi says that if the west does not help ukraine and does not help significantly in the next few months, then time can be lost, because the coming months, as zelenskyi says, will be decisive, he said this while receiving the award of the american academy of achievements, during 60 years of this award for contribution to the development of people. now zelenskyy has such an award, let's listen to what the president of ukraine said upon receiving it award we don't have much time, the next few months will be decisive in this war, russia's war against ukraine and all of you,

because this is russia's war against freedom itself. we have little time to determine what its outcome will be, and we must determine it, not... russia, not their bloody allies. we have to be faster, we have to not lose the next few months in war so we don't lose the next decades. mr. viktor, zelensky, when he talks about these next months and what should not be lost, the next few months, and then not to lose the next decades, obviously speaks of a decision that has not been made. by our western partners regarding strikes with long-range weapons, western long-range weapons on the territory of the russian federation. what is stopping the west in the current situation from such a decision, from such actions? i have already said this, they believe that this will be another step towards

escalation, this will be the crossing of another red line, and they are worried that putin will be able to respond. since they by the possibilities they experience that he can strike, and we are talking about nuclear weapons, that is, no matter how they say that the repetition of constant references to nuclear weapons does not lie in the heads of western politicians, it is postponed, unfortunately, and they constantly. but they keep this function in their heads and believe that the crossing of additional red lines can really lead to the beginning of the third world war, but here i want to say that president zelensky is right, that there is a very big risk, just between

november 5 and the inauguration of the new president, when in fact the old administration will end its term. term, anova has not yet started, there is a risk that russia may resort to some provocations that... to which there will be no one to respond in time, the candidate for the presidency of the united states of america from the republican party, donald trump, at a rally in indiana, once again criticized the white the house for the policy of aid to ukraine and recalled his alleged plan to end the war. let's listen to trump. regarding ukraine, i see that zelensky is here now. "i think that zelenskyi is the best seller in history, every time he comes to the country,

he leaves here with 60 billion dollars, returns with 60 billion. but i'm going to do it differently, i'm going to achieve peace before i become president, if i win this election, the first thing i'm going to do is call zelensky, i'm going to call president putin and say, you have to make a deal, because this is crazy. trump, mr. viktor , of course, manipulates these 60 billion dollars, because they still remain in the united states of america, it's just that the american economy receives 60 billion dollars, and we receive weapons, but these trump's constant mantras are that before i step foot in the white house, i will do everything, i will call putin, i will call with... well, in this situation, i understand that the biggest problem for trump will be putin himself, because putin does not

want any peace formulas, putin does not want to leave the territory of ukraine, putin does not want a plan for victory or a plan for defeat, that is, he is a being who in principle does not want anything, rejects any plans, it is possible that trump can win the election, does it mean is that... the course and nature of the russian-ukrainian war will change, even unless trump can convince putin to end this war. to begin with, we don't know if trump's meeting with zelensky will take place, because trump's son wrote a rather interesting tweet and blamed zelensky for not treating the republican presidential candidate with respect. party, that is, this statement that we just saw and this tweet hints

that this meeting may not take place, but i am in favor of it actually taking place, because both theses that were voiced, they were voiced before already in several trump interviews, therefore we haven't heard anything new here. the other thing is when we talk about how putin will react, really at the current, at the current... stage, it's hard to convince putin, who thinks he has a little bit left, and he's going to push europe, he's going to push the united states of america, he's going to sit down to the negotiating table with the united states of america, with china, and will begin to divide the world strategically, as he wanted. the year 2007, as i have already said about it several times, was the munich security conference. putin actually addressed the united states america, putin turned to china and actually

invited them to sit down and divide the world, he, he does not need some fragments of a time ravine there, or some other village in ukraine, he needs this exclusively in order to sit at this table negotiations, he... is trying to declare his own geopolitical positions through the war in ukraine, so we will see how the issue of the elections will develop, and the most important thing here is that the elections that will be held in the united states of america end, that they pass really calmly and come to an end calmly to the candidate... who loses has accepted the results of this election. commenting on trump's statements about his

intentions to end the war, zelensky said: i feel like trump doesn't really know how to stop the war, even if he thinks he does? another person who does not know how to stop the war, but who wants to be the chancellor of peace, is the federal chancellor of germany, olaf scholz, on the eve of his visit to new york, he spoke about the need to do everything for peace talks between ukraine and russia, said that if there... along the line delimitation, but as of now, that will be all, then it is possible, as it can be as an option. president zelenskyi met with scholz in new york and announced it on social networks. what the president of ukraine writes. they talked about how to make a just peace closer, the main thing is to preserve unity. our peace formula is designed

to do just that, and we had a successful first summit. of peace, in turn, scholz stated that the lifting of restrictions on strikes deep into russia is incompatible with my personal position, can it be considered, mr. viktor, that the personal position scholz in this case influences berlin's decision regarding long-range weapons, does germany still look at the united states of america and take into account the position of great britain and... this anti-putin coalition nevertheless coordinates this process among themselves and beyond this coordination, for neither scholz, nor biden, nor the representatives of great britain can go beyond the limits of these agreements. you have seen the statements of the representatives of great britain that they are theoretically ready

to give permission to ukraine to strike deep into russian territory. the question is only in... because it is necessary to agree that even in this trio that you just talked about, the position of scholz, it is repeated every time, because remember how in 2022, in the 23s, pressure was put on scholz, what he conveyed tanks in ukraine, he didn't until the united states of america did, and i think his personal position here as well... a lot depends on how the united states of america behaves in the near future. another issue is quite er so painful for the implementation of this issue, and it is the iranian one participation in russia's aggressive policy towards

ukraine, iranian shaheda and iranian missiles, two weeks ago the americans announced that they have the... data that iranian ballistic missiles are located on the territory of the russian federation, iranian president masoud pezeshkian said that tehran allegedly ready to sit down at the table with europeans and americans to conduct dialogue and negotiations on ending the war in ukraine. we have never approved russian aggression against ukrainian territory, he added. well, in this situation, mr. viktor, i wanted to to ask about why the ukrainian side does not have a clear position regarding the participation of iran in the russian war against ukraine, why we still have diplomatic relations with this country, although iranian shaheds are flying at us, at our heads, for 2.5 years now, and now and iranian missiles, well, you know that iran is now,

why is it going to such lengths... is it ready for negotiations with europeans and americans, because it does not really want to enter another war, which is very close to its borders, and therefore i think that these are all initiatives from the sides of iran's leadership are connected precisely with what is happening now around israel, around palestine, around lebanon, and therefore it is not our game, but with... you know, already many countries are using precisely the ukrainian issue, as such, which, which we can be manipulated, as for your question about breaking diplomatic relations, this question is obviously for the ministry of foreign affairs, not for me. thank you, mr.

viktor, for the conversation, it was the chairman of the board of the institute of world politics, viktor shlinchak, friends. we continue our work in live, we work simultaneously on multiple platforms, if you are watching us now on youtube and facebook, please bookmark our pages, like our pages and take our survey, today we ask you this, are you satisfied the work of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, you can leave your comment in the comments below. video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381, if you are satisfied with the work of the ministry of defense, no. 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we

will be in touch with my colleague, journalist, former vlaskor unian in moscow, roman symbalyuk, roman, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, hello serhiy, hello everyone, i am glad to see you and i traditionally recommend to our viewers your youtube channel 1.25000. roman's subscribers on youtube, join roman tsymbalyuk's youtube channel, you will to see him more often than he is on the espresso tv channel, although lately you have been on espresso quite a lot, so i'm glad for that too. so, let's talk about a victory plan that no one has seen yet, and there's a lot of talk about a victory plan, we... understand what we mean by a victory plan, which is the collapse of the russian federation, the overthrow of the putin regime, and the victory, military victory and the destruction

of these military formations, well, at least to the urals, and how do they perceive all the stories from our negotiations with the americans, regarding the victory plan, the russians, because there is only a statement. piskov, who said, at first he said that this is generally unacceptable for us, is the position of volodymyr volodymyrovych, and this position is exclusively his ultimatum regarding ukraine, i understand that, but he tells piskov that the kremlin will study zelenskyi's plan if it is in the official sources how has the position changed, roman, not only of the kremlin, but also of the kremlin mouthpieces, regarding the victory plan, regarding the fact that... zelenskyi and ukraine are serious about the victory of ukraine over russia, so well look, here you mentioned dmitry pisky,

his words in this case are worthless, because let's remember, the day before the war, he said that there would be no invasion, but it happened, and then he pretended that it should be so , this is to the point that this dog of putin, he can scold as much for... as he wants, but it seems that he does not participate in the system of such key decisions, and therefore it is simply such informational noise, so what concerns the colleagues of this informational noise, they follow the visit very carefully of the president of ukraine to the united states, every step, every signed projectile, they ooh and aah, and in general the general trend is such that... well, yes, they will hit moscow and st. petersburg with ukrainian missiles and ukrainian missiles of western origin, and somehow it all seems like a base,

as if it had already happened, maybe it really happened in some places, who knows what flew there in that torepets, but in general, all this is brought up by russian propagandists, how strange it is, it very much... sonorous, because the word that's one thing, it's either a cessation of fire, fire, or a truce, or something else, or the end of the war, as the president of ukraine said, but then, as they say, interpretations change, and most of even these aggressive scoundrels, they believe that at some stage it just has to stop where everyone is standing, so... this is good news, because the sudja is ours, part of the kursk region too, maybe one day we will get it back, as

the head of the foreign policy department of poland said, if i am not mistaken, he said that it is necessary to return to the internationally recognized borders, and in principle no one is really against it, to be honest, that is, the attention is great, because they actually understand very clearly that they understand the same thing that we understand that you do. the fate is decided, not only ours, but also those monsters of moscow and the kremlin, because now everything depends on the decision of joseph biden, if he says, you know, i realized that now i am the master of escalation, and i will indicate where and what, and then look, look, everything will change immediately, planes will fly, we will bomb, yes. for the meme, but the essence does not change from this, because in war one must act only in this way, because if it remains as it is now,

it must be said. it is clear to everyone that we are not holding in donbas, because the bombs are falling non-stop, this unfortunate our heroic 72nd brigade of kyiv is sitting in a coal mine, they have no air defense , there is no coal mine, and there among these ruins, where are our soldiers, well, i that's right, it's not customary for us to bring up such complicated things on television, because it would be, oh, what... treason, there is no treason, well, this is a war, and we are now on the threshold, or under some circumstances , it freezes somewhere here and now, and for this to happen, we must be armed to the teeth, everyone must understand this, including joseph biden, or they will continue the front further and further in the direction

of kyiv and the dnipro. that any negotiations will fail if they are conducted with putin, who does not want an end to the war. he called the victory plan a new plan a and added that it would be a shame if biden did not support it, quoting our president. that's a terrible thought. this would mean that biden does not want to end the war in a way that deprives. this victory and we would have a very long war, an impossible, grueling situation, which would result in the death of an enormous number of people. if i propose a new, now i propose a new plan a, we reverse the current course, where we have only held on because of the strength of our military. if you do not want this war to drag on, we offer you a plan to strengthen ukraine. and in addition,

zelensky noted that for the victory of russia. ukraine does not even have to lose completely, because the russian federation understands that almost a third of the ukrainian territory is occupied and can decide that this is enough, so it can also strike at poland, - added the head of state, you and i, roman, have repeatedly talked on our air about this indecision, or the small steps of our western partners, they do a lot for of ukraine, but... still, something is constantly holding them back, what is holding them back? well, you see, that is, there are many aspects, and the geopolitical one about the nuclear bomb, you can say a few words, but i believe that this has already been said 100 times, the question here is what, what did the president of ukraine come with? well, you know, you don't have to be super analyst and even the generals of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine to

say, well, how can they be influenced, that is , there is, it seems, there is some kind of proposal, if joseph biden comes up with it, then the war will go in the other direction, or there will be some significant changes to be honest, i see only one option, this is some kind of ultimate phase, don't play this game a little bit, as it turned out, you can already buy tanks together at voentorgs in german in our case, and you can also ask the question yes, you are a monster kremlin, what are you there? you he threatened the united states, so you can present your ultimatum in such a way that if you do not stop hostilities, the tamag missiles will fly there, there, there and there, and then you will tell us about your missile, which he has there a sarmatian or something , well, a modified satan, that is... this is

the ultimate form of dictators, it can absolutely work, because the russians, as it turned out, want to live, well, they would just like to kill with impunity, in moscow they want to live, because moscow has become better, and when they begin to feel radioactive ash potential, they are very sad, and here is one of the comrades, i liked this phrase so much, he asked... so what, you offer us to blow our noses with crimea and donbass, and when the question is posed in such a way, then it turns out that they neither need crimea nor donbas, that is, once again, we return to the military and political power of the united states, whether they will be subject to this or not, well, there are many doubts about this a reason, because what is written in

the zmi of the americans... as a plan for victory, well sorry.