it is unlikely that a dry air mass of 24-26° will prevail and in kyiv, the capital tomorrow, it will be around +23-24°. precipitation is not expected, but, as i promised, i want to say that the change in weather, to which you may react, but let it not be, ee is tentatively expected to change the weather on september 28-29, well, for now, keep a close eye on our updated weather forecasts. on the espresso channel. good evening, we are from ukraine.

today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko, ugledar vise. the russians are trying to attack the fortress city out of three parties what is the importance of this strategic

point in donbas and will the ukrainian defenders be able to hold the defense? compulsion for peace. zelensky believes that putin has violated so many international norms and rules that he will not stop himself. what decisions of the world community can encourage russia to stop its aggression against ukraine? get america out of the war. trump promises to end aid to ukraine if he wins the us presidential election, which may be behind the republican leader's refusal to meet with the president of ukraine? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. during for the next

two hours we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war and our victory. we will have five guests during the entire broadcast. in the first part of our program, we will have people's deputy of ukraine ivanna klympush-tsintsadze, military expert, colonel of the zsu, vladyslav seliznyov, and political expert ihor reiterovych. in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour, we will have in... volodymyr fisenko and viktor boberenko. donate from sum. friends, we conduct polls throughout the broadcast. and we are asking you today whether russia should be invited to the second peace summit. so the answer options are yes, no, if you're watching us on tv, you can vote by phone lines. if yes, 0800-211-381, no, 0800 211. 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are

free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this our vote. well, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you take a look video of how the fighters of the 79th separate airborne assault brigade of the tavriyya brigade successfully repelled an enemy attack in the kostyantynivka region of donetsk region, five armored vehicles were destroyed, 28 invaders were eliminated, more... 22 were wounded, watch this video.

glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. i want to invite our first guest to speak, this is ivanna klympush-sentsadze, people's deputy of ukraine. chairman of the parliamentary committee on ukraine's integration into the european union. mrs. ivano, i congratulate you, thank you for being you with us today thank you, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. let's start our conversation with what volodymyr zelensky said at the un security council, the president of ukraine said that our

state has evidence of russia's intentions to strike three nuclear power plants on the eve of winter, and how and what does he say? the president of ukraine in the security council, let's listen. russia is again trying to destroy our energy, and starting this fall, they are acting even more cynically, they are preparing to attack our three nuclear power plants, and we have proof of it. if russia is ready to enter like this far. it means that none of what we value. you appreciate, it doesn't matter to moscow, this kind of russian cynicism will continue to strike if it is given any place in its own right. mrs. ivano, russia is a member of the un security council, and this

statement, which was made by our president, should obviously prompt members of the security council to pass some resolution or warning. to his colleagues in the security council, the russians, but this did not happen, and it is unlikely that it will happen, will zelensky be heard in the un security council, and in the un itself, and whether we should wait for some decisions or at least in some perspective, because when the president of the country says that the aggressor is trying to hit nuclear power plants, it means that the security of the world... not only in ukraine, is at risk? well, today president zelenskyi repeated this information, during his speech also at the general assembly of the united nations, and this is a very, very serious statement, this is very

serious, disturbing information that president zelenskyi gave to the world, and it is obvious that we would like dad, but... well, not just an expression of concern or pressure some or other countries in their applications to the russian federation and its partners or how it is, i don't even know how to say it in relation to the aggressor countries aggressive and aggressive behavior, but any decision, any resolution that is adopted within the framework of a... the united nations organization at various levels and it undergoes very serious long-term training, it agrees, it is discussed, it works with various states so that they continue to work

with their partners there, with those who whom has better, better mutual, better access, better opportunities to persuade and so on, so... unfortunately, ah, it was used the highest, well, such a world, global, single, global platform to voice this very, very serious information , but due to the inability of the united nations organization itself, including the security council of the united nations, we cannot expect that it will be born into something, well, something effective. at least with a statement in relation to such intentions of the russian federation, you have already mentioned zelensky's speech today at the un general assembly, she too, this speech of our ukrainian leader was leading,

nuclear safety was leading in his speech, let's listen to this speech as well. russia receives detailed information about our infrastructure. nuclear power plants, what does it threaten? any strike by missiles or drones, any serious incident in the power system can lead to a nuclear disaster, if not... god forbid, any of our reactors will be destroyed, many countries will feel the devastating effect of such a disaster. mrs. ivano, russia has already violated all imaginable and unimaginable rules that exist in the current world, the un charter, international agreements, but russia was and remains a member of the councils without the un and a member of the un, although this membership in both the un security council and the un itself was inherited from of the soviet union, i.e. russia, as the legal successor, moved to

the seat of the representative of the soviet union in this respectable structure, and at one time in ukraine there was a discussion about the legal and correctness of this, which happened because russia did not write an application for accession and did not enter for the usual procedure, as all countries did. ukraine is the founder of the organization. nations, would it be correct in the current situation on the part of the ukrainian state to demand the exclusion of russia from the un security council and the un, referring to the fact that they are an aggressor country and are waging war, violating all the norms and statutes of the united nations organization, but legally, stating that, in principle, russia should not have been there for the last 30 years, and you know, really. i personally joined such a public initiative, which

i argued with various lawyers, international lawyers, precisely the mechanism by which the russian federation entered the place of the soviet union and the security council, and in general the united nations itself, and there is every reason to believe that russia is there illegally. occupies this place, because, for example, the same serbia, as the legal successor of the former socialist republic there and yugoslavia, went through a completely different path in order to become a member of the united nations organization after the breakup of yugoslavia, so there are definitely reasons to talk about it, it is very difficult a complex process, it's a very... that needs serious proof there, serious, serious resource, serious diplomatic work, on

all, on all continents, in fact, uh, with no guarantees that it can be successful there in the near future, but in my opinion, this is just one of those parallel tracks that ukraine should lead, and at the same time... we see that the state of ukraine, including the president of ukraine, and the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, they are not supported these public initiatives organizations, which, by the way, mobilized such a serious resource in order to prove the legality of russia's presence in the security council and in the un in general. and no, if you do not have the support of the state and the support of official kyiv in these

efforts, it is obviously difficult to count on the success of any public initiative, or even a parliamentary initiative, so until this happens, as part of the official position of kyiv, in the form of its ministry, in the form of its supreme authority commander-in-chief and, accordingly, the president. of ukraine, which is responsible for foreign policy, until that time there is no need to count on success at all. but we remember how in 1939, when the ussr attacked finland, the league of nations, this is about the image of the current organization of the united nations, they made a decision to exclude the soviet union from this organization, although this organization in in 1946, it self-disbanded, well , it actually grew into the organization of the united nations. why can't the un make such a decision regarding russia? i think that russia is for this one

time worked quite seriously in order not to give the opportunity for such a decision to go through the general assembly of the united nations organization, this is the only way through which this decision can be adopted, and the only one, is the un general assembly. and ah, well, in order for such a thing to succeed, it obviously, again, needs very serious, ah, serious work, especially at a time when there is a real or permanent hybrid information war, it is conducted extremely actively not only by the russian federation itself, many of its partners and many others by other countries, which definitely distorts the picture of reality in general and which does not help in

the restoration of justice from the point of view of that. where is russia, we, you remember very well, i am convinced, mr. serhiy, how we were at the beginning of the russian invasion, i am talking about the 14th year, about the 15th year, how difficult it was to prove to the world that we really did not have there is no civil war, but it was russia that convinced the whole world at that time that it was the ukrainians who were creating some people's republics there, fighting among themselves, somewhere they find depth in the mines... buried s-300 tanks and they are fighting among themselves, these are the things that russia tried to present to the world, obviously, when you and i were there, in fact, eight years before the full-scale invasion , we proved that no, this is russian the federation is waging war directly on our territory, and

the world refused even our partners there, many refused to believe to the end. to what extent the russian state is really involved there, to what extent, what are its intentions and so on, then imagine how difficult it is talk about excluding the russian federation from the united nations, although for me it is a completely black and white black and white situation, and i think that for all ukrainians this black and white situation is an evil that is completely violates any basic principles of international law. which it dares to tell from all the tribunes, that they say it protects him, well, it is not called otherwise, it is an outright diabolical lie. these days, ms. ivanna, president zelensky is presenting the victory plan to the leaders of the united states of america, joseph biden, kamala harris, well

, it is not clear whether he will meet with trump, because the office, the campaign office of trump said that... probably there will not be this meeting, well less than that, but several people in ukraine know about this plan, well at least those who are apparently close to volodymyr zelenskyi, and one of them is the head of the president's office andriy yermak, who during a speech at the council on international relations in new york confirmed that inviting ukraine to nato is part of president volodymyr zelenskyi's victory plan. let's listen to what yarmak said. we must have the upper hand on the battlefield to force putin to cease hostilities. we are trying very hard, without ships we destroyed the black sea fleet, without air superiority we stopped the russian advance in most directions, including kharkov. without fear, we returned the war to russia.

ukraine's invitation to nato is part of the victory plan. if, ms. ivanna, this plan, part of this plan, regarding ukraine's entry, invitation to nato, will not be implemented, does this mean that this victory plan will be different, or this victory plan will not take place? ah since the ukrainian society has not received any information at all, and what it contains, this plan of victory, and does not even know its details, is anyone's guess. based on such separate speeches or separate articles in the western and ukrainian media, what is directly contained there, well, it is quite difficult to talk about the systemic vision that president zelensky brought to the united states regarding the victory plan or what they called the victory plan, it seems to me that

a member is necessary. invitation, promotion to membership of ukraine in nato, as a guarantee of sustainable and stable and long-lasting peace, not only on the european continent, but also in the world, we explain, well, from the very beginning, even a full-scale invasion, and when all the aristocrats there were talking about the fact that remember, it was march of the 22nd year. that they say we should consider neutrality as part of the end of this war, and that is what is being discussed in istanbul. despite the fact that, well, the whole state was united as much as possible then and is still united in opposition enemy, but i remember at the time i just

publicly expressed my indignation, that it was completely unacceptable history, to discuss whether membership in the alliance should be part of our future or not, after all the president's team had put in an extraordinary amount of effort at the signing of... well, these memoranda on promises of aid to ukraine and called them out loud there as security guarantees, security agreements, and loudly reported that this entire system of these agreements, it is precisely the guarantee of our security, this it's good that they finally realized that we need nato membership, but i can't understand and and and why anyone decided that, well, president biden will single-handedly decide on ... membership in nato, why anyone decided that even, well the leadership position of the united states may be, in this matter, may be the guarantee of a positive,

immediate resolution of it, why someone decided that right now it is there, well, an element of some insistence on the last three months of the biden presidency, as far as i, if i understand correctly , what is it about, what is it about consists of this idea now to present this plan in the united states of america, to me, well, i don't have the answers to these questions, and until we see this plan, we will not understand with you how really thought out this approach and this insistence is, but it is obvious that none of us should have the question whether ukraine's membership in nato should be a part of ukraine? victory definitely has, yes without any doubt, i meant if, if there is not this invitation to nato, or can we say that we need another plan

victory, because no, it means that we simply need to systematically work on the victory plan and not only demand from our partners that they take us to nato, invite us to nato and so on, i’m honest, i’m a year from the time i was a new, adapted annual was adopted. the national program of our rapprochement with the alliance, it happened at the end of december, in the last days of december 23rd, i did not see a single, i emphasize, a single legislative act that the cabinet of ministers of ukraine would submit to the verkhovna rada of ukraine to implement this or that transformation, which us is needed in order to be truly interoperable with the alliance, and therefore, any of our partners... ah, both friends and skeptics, unfortunately, will ask the question: what are you doing so that we could go this way quickly so that we can go

on the fast track, and the skeptics, the more they will use it against us, then i can't understand why we don't want to take these cards away from them in order to speak meaningfully, concretely and really realistically with our partners about our future membership. thank you mrs. ivanna for the conversation, it was ivanna klympush-tsintsadze, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the parliamentary committee on ukraine's integration into the european union. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us live right now, please like this video, subscribe to our pages, and take our poll. today we ask you about whether you should invite. russia for the second peace summit. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. if you have your own opinion, a separate opinion, please write it in the comments below this video. if you're watching us on tv,

you can see the phone numbers on the screen right now, i'm going to call them out, and vote on the phone lines. if you think that russia should be invited to the second peace summit (0800-211-381, no 0800, 211 382). all calls to these numbers are free, vote. at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we are in touch with vladislav seliznyov, military expert, former spokesman of the general staff, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. colonel, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. greetings to you, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. mr. colonel, the attention of the world community is focused on the victory plan brought to washington and new york, respectively, by the president. of ukraine and of course, everyone is commenting on this victory plan, no one has seen it, but everyone is talking referring to theses in the international press, let's not start with

the plan. of zelenskyi's victory, and what the situation is now at the front, because the situation is not easy enough, as he says the head of the reservist council of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine, ivan tymochko, near ugledar, ugledar is currently not surrounded, he says, but the advance of the forces of the russian federation and new risks because of this are what is happening at the front now, that is, what is the background. for zelenskyi's visit to the united states of america and how the armed forces respond to the russians' attempts to enter the administrative borders of the donetsk region. in principle, the russian troops are acting in this direction. they try to use all the resources available to them to achieve this goal. and hostilities not only in the area of ​​ugledar, but also in kupansky, limansky.

to form the most convenient bridgehead for further movement forward, here to some extent a strange situation arises, because two months ago, general budanov, the head of ukrainian military intelligence, claimed that by the beginning of october, the army's harvest resources should be depleted, it will not be able to carry out active offensive actions, as we can see, this term appears, hostile. the army continues the offensive, that this is a mistake of general bohdanov, or maybe some factors were not taken into account that seriously changes the disposition on the battlefield, because you and i know that the key factor that affects the course of hostilities is the availability of resources, the ukrainian army is deployed, on the one hand, on the other hand, i understand that the russians have suffered considerable losses and that , that they are losing a lot of personnel, armored vehicles and weapons, we see this every morning during the morning briefings from

the ukrainian general staff, but nevertheless, even regardless of these losses, the enemy is pressing forward, and the situation in the vogladar area is very eloquent, city is semi-surrounded, which creates very serious problems for the logistics of our garrison, the city is constantly bombarded with enemy cables and enemy artillery shells, there is no living space there anymore, it is literally being destroyed, these high-rise buildings, which are still under the control of the ukrainian army, are being torn to pieces about... the dignity of destroying the same assault units, enemy armies, which are trying to close the klychchad around the lord, does not work now, because the advantage of the enemy's forces and means in some positions is eight times more than our capabilities, so i think that mr. tymochka's assessment is very cautious and the context is basically correct, but the trends of that process are very, very dangerous, because if

the enemy can... the armed forces of ukraine conducted an operation to liberate the aggregate plant, and, as yuriy fedorenko, the commander of the achilles unmanned aerial vehicle battalion of the 92nd separate assault brigade named after koshovoy taman ivan sirk, told. it was quite a difficult situation there with this dismissal and we will listen to what mr. fedorenko said. objectively we are

we are in active defense, trying to prevent further advances of the enemy on the most difficult sections, but at the same time, the defense forces are conducting a number of operations in order to deprive the enemy of the opportunity to storm on certain sections and, as a result , to knock him out with the goal of returning our god-given land. so this time it happened at the aggregate plant, this is an operation that was planned and preparatory work was carried out more than one day and more than one week, system work... and defense forces, execution of specialized units of tasks led to the fact that, as of today, the tseniklap of the ukrainian land was repelled, and what is most important, for the entire period of time, the last two or even three months, the enemy did not have any tactical successes in the field of battle, neither in the deep section, nor in the vovchanchan direction . defense forces are now in full control of the situation. mr. colonel, the kursk operation with...