objectively, we are in active defense, trying to prevent further advances of the enemy on the most difficult sections, but at the same time, the defense forces conduct a series of operations in order to deprive the enemy of the opportunity to storm on certain sections, and as a result, to knock him out with the goal of returning our god given land, so this time it happened at the aggregate plant, this is an operation that was planned and preparatory work was carried out not... one day and not one week, systematic work of the defense forces, implementation specialized divisions of the assigned tasks, led to the fact that today this piece of ukrainian land has been recaptured, and most importantly, for the entire period of time, the last two or even three months, the enemy did not have any tactical successes in the field of battle or on the hlyboky road, no, in the vovchan direction, the defense forces are now fully in control of the situation. mr. colonel, the kursk operation... of the armed forces of ukraine allowed

the ukrainian army to stretch its troops, russian troops along the northeastern border, let's say, sumy region, kharkiv region. to what extent, in your opinion, can the success of this kurdish operation be characterized as of today, what has ukraine gained and what has it lost? the key thing is that ukraine forced the russian federation to withdraw. a lot of its resources from other areas of the front, and when fedorenko says that the intensity of the introduction of hostilities in the direction of vovchanchansk or in the direction of lypka has decreased, this is also due to the fact that now the enemy was forced to withdraw its forces and means from belgorod region, partly from the north of kharkiv region, precisely in the territory of the kurdish region, in order to block the expansion of the ukrainian bridgehead there, because more from other areas of the front from the chasara region. in some places from the area in the direction of

kupyansk, the enemy was forced to withdraw his forces and means. just recently , there was information that the enemy was using military transport aircraft of the russian army to transfer paratroopers from the south of our country, in particular from the south of the zaporozhye region, in order to strengthen their group, which operates in the territory of the kurt region, i.e. it is not worth underestimating the format of the actions of the ukrainian army on the territory of the kurt region, because i am sure that those 40... thousand russian soldiers who are operating somewhere in the direction of suzh, they would be guaranteed to operate somewhere either in the direction of korahov or in the direction of pokrov, creating for we have a lot of problems there, and therefore the actions of the ukrainian general staff headed by general sirsky in this context are absolutely justified and rational, we are actually acting within the framework of a strategic defense operation, including on the territory of kurtskaya region, and the key goal of this strategic defense. the operation of maximum withdrawal

of enemy resources is actually not a loss, just look at the report from the ukrainian general staff, the numbers we see there every morning, they are very eloquent. mr. colonel, i'm following the news feed, and the news feed from russia, which is coming and the propaganda media of russia is reporting that putin is now conducting the security council and discussing the matter. of nuclear weapons, options for the use of nuclear weapons, more precisely, they specify the concept of the use of nuclear weapons weapons, and what they are saying literally in these minutes, when we are on the air, the russian federation must take into account the emergence of new sources of military threats and risks to itself and its allies, they clarify the russian military doctrine and say that if not a nuclear state we are being attacked, but with the support of nuclear powers, then russia can...

respond, well, putin said that russia can consider the use of nuclear weapons already after reliable data on the massive launch of missiles and drones during border crossing well, in fact, in fact, putin said that from now on, if this happens again, we can use nuclear weapons against ukraine. to what extent these threats have place under, well... the actual circumstances in which russia now finds itself, and given the warnings the kremlin received from cia director burns back in october-november 2022, and even more so, april 2022, while i was at the yavoriv training ground in the lviv region, together with the officers, i was on the alert, because at that time there was operational information that the russian army will strike... a tactical

nuclear missile attack on the polygon infrastructure, that did not happen, it did not happen later either, whether it will happen now in connection with certain transformations is becoming a strategist. nuclear deterrence in the russian federation? my answer is obviously no, because the question arises, how will the russian army be beaten by a starmat-type missile, which only made one effective launch within the framework of research, although it has already been put on combat duty and introduced into the ranks of the russian army, is it possible that other equipment will be used like voivode-type missiles, by the way, this is a ukrainian development, it continued its operation for a long time in that way... and with the support of ukrainian socialists until the beginning of the russian-ukrainian, russian-ukrainian war. russians can dream about anything and talk about anything, but do they have the opportunity, the resources to implement these missions? the answer is ambiguous.

one more question is quite important, i do, many topics to raise and talk with you at the same time, because it is interesting to know your opinion on ... public szh, that is, voluntary abandonment parts now here is the story of journalist serhiy gnizdilov, who served in the 56th separate motorized infantry brigade, he announced the szh, there they appointed an official investigation and declared that the military man had committed actions that contained signs of a criminal offense. on the one hand, it is clear that there is current legislation. assumes responsibility for the szch, and on the other hand, in conditions where the terms of demobilization and rotation of military personnel who have been in the war for the third year, and some for the 11th year, are not clearly prescribed, a lot of questions arise for these

servicemen themselves, as well as serhiy gnizdilov, what if it doesn't work out and there are no rules that he would, which he would follow. as to when he can be demobilized there, then this is the szh, or it can lead to negative results in the army, when, well, if serhiy gnizdilov avoids this responsibility, these cases will be repeated, and these cases will lead to the fact that on at some stage, the fighters of the armed forces of ukraine will begin to leave their positions, well, part of them. and if you don't know how to act, act on the law, and it seems obvious to me that if the nest has committed an offense, he must answer according to the letter of ukrainian legislation, and there can be no misunderstandings here, but what about

the need to rotate ukrainian servicemen, some of whom are 2.5 years old, some more performs the duties of military service, then it is obvious, let's remember our modern one. historical experience. between 2014 and 2017, ukraine spent six waves of mobilization and, accordingly, demobilization. what hinders the current military and political the leadership of our country to return to such a practice, i do not understand. i often heard a lot from the ministry of defense, from the general staff, well, certain objections, saying it was impossible. but wait, now we already have 14 brigades prepared. the president is talking about it. he also complains about... that only four of them are equipped with weapons and military equipment, so it is possible that this personnel of the same newly created brigades should be directed to the combat brigades, so that at least the process can be partially carried out there for a certain extended period of time rotation, and possibly even demobilization,

perhaps it is worth reactivating the case of mobilization processes with clearly defined time indicators, at which time intervals ukrainian citizens will be called up within the framework. next waves of mobilization, because if such an algorithm works, it is possible that there will be more people willing to voluntarily join the ukrainian army, i think that the adaptation of ukrainian legislation to the conditions of a modern full-scale war should take place, and these transformations are fully within the power of the current political authorities to implement, why this not is happening, it’s very boring for me, mr. colonel, the question is still short, i hope for also... a short answer, because the people’s deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko, this is the only source that i have seen so far, claims that the new directive of the ground forces command not only stopped the conscription of men from 18 to 25 years old, but also does not allow the forced mobilization of men over 50 years old, except by a separate order, i

have not found anywhere, to be honest, this order, it is apparently secret or under vulture is completely secret, but... wrote about it, how likely is it that such an order exists? there can be no documents issued either to the ministry of defense, or to the general staff, or to the command. of the ground forces, which is contrary to the norms of ukrainian legislation, as soon as changes are made to the law of ukraine on mobilization and mobilization training and a number of other normative acts that will change the age center of those citizens of ukraine who must be drafted as part of mobilization, well, for example, from 25 up to 50 years, then ok we're talking about it we can talk, but for now these are assumptions that are spread by the people's deputy, but again , information of this level should first of all be... communicated by official spokesmen, if it is about the command of the ground forces, then , accordingly, the command of the ground forces,

possibly the general staff or the ministry of defense, so far i have not heard or seen any official statement from these officials. thank you, colonel, for the conversation, this was vladyslav seliznyo, military expert, former spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces forces of ukraine, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us there. live, please take part in our vote, today we ask you about whether russia should be invited to the second peace summit, so on youtube everything is quite simple: a yes button, a no button, and your own comments that go beyond those two unambiguous answers, you can leave in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv, take to hold a smartphone or phone and vote by phone. if you think that russia should be invited to the second peace summit, well... 800-21381 no 0800 211382 all calls to these

numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, ihor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development, will be in touch with us. mr. igor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations. so there is a big presentation in the united states. america's victory plan of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi is there, he spoke both at the un security council and at the un general assembly today, but against the background of what the ukrainian delegation is demonstrating its desire to defeat russia, russia in the words of vasyl nebenzi, russia's representative at the united nations , says that the russian federation... will continue a full-scale war against ukraine if the west does not allow the current

ukrainian government to be overthrown, let's hear what nie bendzia said. we treat ukrainians with respect, they are a brotherly people with whom we are associated historical connections. several million of them found refuge in russia. if the event does not make it possible to get rid of the cancerous tumor represented by the kyiv regime in a peaceful way, if the geopolitical considerations of the usa and its satellites turn out to be more important than saving ukraine, then we will continue the special operation until its task is accomplished by military means, if there is another way to achieve peace in our country will not that is, mr. igor, russia does not want any peace talks, and they said until we are not with. we whip the current leaders of ukraine, they will not calm down, and the head of the ukrainian

state says, we have a plan for victory, does the plan for the victory of ukraine mean a plan, is it a plan for the defeat of russia? well, in any case, it will be a defeat for russia. look, russia is already losing, because they already had some goals, they actually got others, and they understand that those goals, even intermediate ones, which they changed for themselves during 2.5 years... of a large-scale war, they are unattainable, they will never reach them, and even a significant part of the so-called russian political party admits this of the economic elite, they do it so far indirectly, sometimes with an indirect text, but the logic, well, this logic is followed in their statements, moreover, even putin himself, who constantly changes the goals of this war, essentially admits that some of them are simply will not be achieved, but in fact we really have, well, when is such a cardinal failure'. the fall of the vision of ukraine, the vision of russia, which in principle is quite expected, here it would be appropriate to expect that russia will somehow change its

position, will be ready to take up, for example, away from our territory, but this does not negate the fact that the russians are waiting for this peace plan to be made public, and since this peace plan certainly does not touch the territory of the russian federation itself, we understand very well that ukraine is not going to occupying part of russia in the kurdish region and so on, this is simply defensive. an operation that can be stopped if there is a certain need for it, so it will be interesting to see how the actual rhetoric of the russian federation will change, including the rhetoric of those countries that... take a neutral or even a certain partner position in relation to russia, and here you raised a very correct, interesting question, whether to invite or not to invite, it seems to me that it is necessary to invite, but this summit, well, it should take place under the format of the plan presented by ukraine, if russia refuses, well, great, then the whole world will see that it does not really want to sit down at the

transition table, talk about something and actually, well, think about how to solve this... situation that she created by political and diplomatic means, if she agrees, well, that's fine too, because in this way, they at least recognize the perspective and the expediency of the plan actually presented by ukraine. well, we are now, well, at such a stage when everyone is waiting for when this plan will be announced, but the most important thing is not even that, the most important thing, actually, is whether this plan will be fully supported by our partners, russia is now trying to act somewhere in advance, that's where putin's statement started to say that... massive attacks by drones or missiles there receive a nuclear response from russia and so on, this is simply an attempt to change the situation, as it were, and yet to inhibit the granting of this permission to ukraine itself, which in turn indicates that that russia is actually very afraid of this story, because it knows that it will not be able to adequately respond to it, and it will suffer a lot from this, so we will wait a couple more days, we will see this

plan, we will see the actual reaction of the partners, and then already in the last turn we will look at the reaction of the russian federation. well, not benzi, he rolled back his mandatory program, went out, read something there and will go back to where he basically spends all his time when he is not speaking at meetings of the united nations organization. mr. igor, it was not for nothing that i asked whether there is an equal sign between the victory plan and the defeat plan of russia, the victory plan of ukraine? because for our western partners, these are obviously different concepts, that is, the plan to win ukraine and the plan to defeat russia. er, can the same biden or our other western partners should clearly say, or why are they not talking about it, that putin's regime threatens not only ukraine, but the whole world, and that our task is to defeat this regime, if not russia, then

putin's regime, well, look, they really have such fear is present, i, well, i wouldn’t even call it fear, look at them... today’s most important thing is missing, they have no understanding and no scenario in general, and what will happen if russia really loses, loses in the sense that it will hit according to the current regime day, because well, well, let's put it this way, if russia withdraws from those territories that it is currently temporarily occupying, it is a defeat for russia, because they set themselves one goal, they do not achieve it, accordingly, they lose without even losing a piece of cloth of its territory, because in modern languages, we are talking about, in wars, we are not talking about... specifically there the loss of certain territories, we are talking about other somewhat global things, things of the narrative plan, the discourse plan, and in in this context, it is of course a defeat for russia, and since the west until now, and this is a paradox to some extent, a possible scenario has not worked out at the official level, there are such scenarios at the expert level, they are, by the way, quite actively presented in specialized publications, and

experts there discuss these issues, but at the official level of such there is no understanding, then it all boils down to the fact that in... ukraine should not lose, but the question of victory itself, it really does not rise in this regard, well, it does not rise. and here, by the way, we remember how there were statements from our partners that ukraine had already won, but it did not has lost statehood, it has retained its capacity for action, its subjectivity, there is an army there, the vast majority of territories there and so on, if you had preserved democracy, you would have already won, but for us today this is not enough history, and when we present our plan, the president presents the plan. i think he called it a victory plan for a reason, because on the one hand it is a certain challenge, and on the other hand, well, he is diplomatically putting something on the line of our partners in the sense that, well , they cannot deny obvious things, they cannot admit that let's agree to some half-dozens of putin and we will not give the opportunity, which means to return all the territories to ukraine, so let's hope that

this evolution will come to an end sooner or later, and they will not see anything wrong in the fact that was just destroyed. even indirectly, even if not by their hands, even if as a result of the defeat in russia, putin's own regime is destroyed, and then it will be possible to talk about the dream of all russian, so-called liberals , a beautiful russia of the future, right? i'm not i think that, by the way, she will be so beautiful and will have some kind of great future, but they can actually dream about it and will be able to try to implement it in practice later. now, mr. igor, a presidential campaign is underway in the united states of america, and before the visit... to the united states of america, president zelenskyi said that he would meet with biden, with harris, and with trump, but the associated press writes about that, referring to ... a representative of trump's staff, that the candidate of republicans will not meet this week with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, who is on a visit to the us, and the

publication also says that on tuesday trump praised russia's military experience in historical conflicts and mocked american aid to ukraine, assuring that if elected president, he will quickly end the war by starting with moscow, well , here is one remark about historical... conflicts, he mentioned napoleon and the second world war. now we will listen to what donald trump said at the rally in georgia, that the united states of america should withdraw from the war in ukraine. we're going to be stuck in this war if i don't become president. i will do it, i will get out of it. we have to get out of it. biden says. that we won't leave until we win, and what will happen if the russians win, they know how to fight, as someone told me the other day, they beat hitler,

they beat napoleon, that's what they 're doing, they're fighting, and it's unpleasant, mr. igor, trump, as i understand it, is already starting to play on putin's side, or not, trump is just chaotically trying to save. own campaign, let's understand one very simple thing: first, sociology has been playing against him for the last two weeks, and if before it was, you know, a constant roller coaster, then trump, then harris, then trump, then harris, now harris is 5% has and she keeps them, and what's worse for trump, she keeps them in the swing states, which will actually determine the fate of the campaign, and i understand that trump's headquarters made such a decision that by... we expect at least that zelensky will present this, well, this plan, he will see it biden, harris will see him, and then trump will simply choose for himself, or he will pounce

on this plan, and in fact, what did he do beforehand and start telling that this is a bad story and so on, only he will save from something there, or i won’t even be surprised if he suddenly changes his position and meets with zelensky so that he has the last word, most likely it will be the first option, he will start criticizing him, because he has such a position now... this just criticism, it's not even criticism, it is criticism, and in this context there is nothing surprising here, because he has taken such a position before, and now it is clear that he has certain panic moments, and here is already a strange statement for him that if he loses, that is, he already allows such an opportunity, he will not run for office in four years, there and some other moments there, and again the repetition of these absolutely idiotic statements about the russians who won from napoleon and from hitler, from napoleon... the russian empire and the union of others empires, because finally napoleon was defeated first in the battle of the nations near leipzig, and then at privaterloo, and there is nothing to comment on hitler at all, i

think he offended a significant part of the americans who fought in north africa, sicily, italy, normandy, then stormed berlin, so in this context, he's now just caught up in this so-called peace-making rhetoric, he's trying to spin this scaremongering about nuclear war, and here he has putin, i don't know exactly not... directly playing along with his latest, if statements, and he hopes that it will bring he is certain result. therefore, this is not so much a story about playing on putin’s side, but a story about the fact that he is simply clinging to any opportunity to somehow turn his company around, to return, if only more confidently, and, perhaps, drag his side even that part undecided americans. so he believes that scaremongering about war, the participation of the united states, and so on, should affect them, well, probably positively, and in this context they support trump. although it is far from a fact that even biden's support has disappeared of the plan that was presented, will be presented, more precisely, by president zelensky, well, it will mean what trump is talking about, about some direct participation of the united states in vienna, and

so on. today, vladimir putin held a meeting with the security council, and he announced that the russian doctrine of nuclear deterrence is expanding, now they have revised it, and accordingly, it is not nuclear states that threaten a nuclear state, but with the participation of others. states can receive an answer, and i understand that putin in this situation wants to warn our western partners that they did not provide missiles and other weapons that can fly towards the territory of the russian federation, as far as putin's warnings to our western partners, as far as they can be implemented by the current regime. putin, listen, you know, it seems to me that these are yet another threats so inadequate, yes, that even the launch of a large number of drones or some

missiles in the direction of russia will immediately be received. a nuclear strike in response, well, this is a specific scarecrow, with which he is trying to really send a signal to the west: do not give ukraine permission hit weapons on the territory, with western weapons on the territory of the russian federation, but i think that these are nothing more than words, this is an absolutely expected reaction, they were preparing for this, they dispersed this topic in advance, i will remind you that, on the one hand, of course, it is not necessary not to underestimate such threats, but after february 24, 2022... russia at the official level threatened more than 30 times with nuclear strikes on ukraine and the countries of the west , and they constantly drew some new red lines there. here is a simple question: what is there? mass drone attack? they write that they shoot down 100-120 ukrainian drones that fly towards them, is this a mass attack or not? and on the other hand, they act in exactly the same way, and they do it in an aggressive manner, attacking another state. therefore, this is,

you know, such an attempt... if it were to warn, but pay attention, these same changes have not yet been introduced, it will only be discussed, it will be introduced, how it will be implemented in practice, well, it is difficult to say, especially since according to the russian data, russian data, as of the 23rd year is only 14, and then they listed 9% of russia's nuclear potential is in a state where it can be used in practice, this is the key point, i really hope that the west will not react to such, well, very banal po... thunderstorms, in turn, will remind putin of many things that he violated, that he actually transgressed, and will remind him who is taking the wrong position in this war, who started this aggressive war in general, and therefore i think that it will be nothing more than words, well and hope that somehow they will reach to the western elites, and they will not give this permission to ukraine, well, they may not give public permission, well, there will be no public permission, and then a game will begin, which russia has always lost, you draw red lines, and we actually cross them further, well

yes this has already happened more than once in relation to the shelling of the crimean peninsula by military units located on the russian peninsula. well, let's keep an eye on that because this statement about the expansion of this nuclear doctrine, clearly it has two audiences, which is a western audience. and the domestic audience is russian, because putin probably won't surprise or intimidate anyone with these statements in ukraine, yes, because... during the 2.5 years of the great war, they have already tested here, it seems, all their missiles, all their drones, all their weapons that they had, they just had already done everything they could do, the only thing they had left was nuclear tactical weapons. thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation, it was igor reiterovich, a political expert, and we, friends, continue our broadcast, and i will remind you that throughout our broadcast we survey, we are asking you today about

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he called for support for the ukrainian peace formula and criticized alternative proposals. president zelenskyy spoke at the un general assembly, generally during during his visit to the united states, he is trying to gain more support for ukraine. will it be possible to do it? we are talking about this on the bbc live from london. i am yevgenia shedlovska. so, president zelensky is in the united states, where the un general assembly is taking place, and today he addressed the delegates. he spoke again about the threat to ukrainian nuclear power plants, as he did the day before during the meeting of the soviets. zon, zelensky repeated.