he called for support for the ukrainian peace formula and criticized alternative proposals. president zelensky spoke. at the un general assembly, in general, during his visit to the united states, he is trying to get more support for ukraine. will it be possible to do it? we are talking about this on the bbc live from london. i am yevgenia shytlovska. so, president zelensky is in the united states, where the un general assembly is taking place, and today he addressed the delegates. he again spoke about the threat to ukrainian nuclear power plants, as he did the day before during the un security council meeting, zelenskyy repeated. according to ukrainian

intelligence, russia is planning attacks on nuclear power plants and wants to knock them out of the energy network. zelensky called to prevent a nuclear disaster, this was the first thing he said from the podium of the un general assembly. president zelenskyy also called for support for the peace formula that ukraine had previously proposed. according to him, this is the only way to a just peace. 10 points, including the withdrawal of all russian troops from the territory of ukraine. and speaking of other initiatives. as the chinese and brazilian peace plans, they will only give russia the opportunity to continue the war, zelensky believes. there cannot be a just peace without ukraine, i think that every leader, every country that supports us in this, that understands us, that sees how russia - a country that is 20 times larger than ukraine in terms of territory, still wants more more land, even more land, which ... madly

grabs it day after day, wanting to destroy its neighbors. what we did not hear in zelensky's speech, the details of his new one initiative, the plan of victory with which he came to the united states. bbc correspondent sumy sumaskanda is in new york and here is her analysis of the ukrainian president's speech. i would like to note several interesting details in volodymyr zelenskyi's speech. at first he talked about the threat. disaster at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. the day before, i spoke with the director of the international atomic energy agency, including about this threat and how much concern is caused by a severe war and the possibility of a nuclear disaster, precisely what president zelenskyy spoke about today in his address to the delegates. he replied that europe will also suffer from this. in my opinion, this was a way to get the attention of the delegates. interestingly, at the end of his speech at the un general assembly, he talked about the victory plan that he will present to president biden on thursday. in the white

house. he spoke a little about this peace plan. according to him, this is the ukrainian peace plan, which should include the responsibility of the aggressor, that is, russia. it is about the return home of ukrainians soldiers and prisoners. he drew particular attention to this, saying: "delegates from africa, brazil and china. if you have alternative plans for peace, then you are essentially doing the bidding of russia. so this was a message to the global south. parts of the world where we have not seen before such a unified support as it is in the west. volodymyr zelensky did not talk about long-range weapons in his speech. it is important to say to whom he was addressing of the un general assembly and those delegates who are more skeptical and reserved about their support for ukraine. he is expected to raise this issue during a personal meeting with president biden. so it is interesting what will happen next, whether president zelensky will be able to push through this idea regarding the use of long-range missiles on the territory of russia. and what will the white house say, in particular president biden himself? they will give permission, and we

will find out about it tomorrow. well, it is expected that zelensky will meet with president biden already tomorrow, biden actually spoke before the un general assembly the day before, and this is how he said about supporting ukraine. putin's war has not achieved its main goal. he sought to destroy ukraine, but ukraine is still free. he sought to weaken nato, but nato is bigger, stronger and ... more united than ever before, with two new members, finland and sweden, but we cannot give up. we all now face another choice: will we continue our support to help ukraine win this war and keep its freedom, or will we withdraw, let us resume aggression and destroy the nation? i know my answer, we cannot tire, we cannot turn away and we will not stop. our support for ukraine until

ukraine achieves a just and lasting peace. but, biden's term in the white house is coming to an end, and it's still a month after the election. he will already be called a lame duck, like the president who will soon leave his office. and considering this key factor american elections. as reported, president zelenskyy wants to present his victory plan to both biden and both presidential candidates. judging by the rhetoric of vice president garis, if she wins the election, she may continue biden's policy regarding ukraine, but what can we expect from trump? he repeatedly said that he could stop the war in one day on... he called zelensky a talented businessman who leaves the united states with billions of dollars every time, and kateryna lisonova, a correspondent of the ukrainian voice of america service, is now in touch with us from washington. actually, it is already known whether zelensky will meet with trump or not, and maybe he will meet with others

republicans during their visit to the usa. in fact, in the office of president zelensky himself, they claim that it is too early to speak and nothing is clear at the moment, because the visit itself is still in progress. continues at the same time, the associated press yesterday published an article in which it refers to an official, a representative of donald trump's election headquarters, who told the publication that, at least this week, donald trump's schedule does not include a meeting with zelensky. they are not sure that they will meet with zelenskyi, as well as representatives of the republican party, and generally legislators in the congress of the united states of america. because yesterday congress plans to finish its work early. earlier it was reported that... zelenskyy is supposed to meet with congress lawmakers on thursday, but yesterday it became known that congress plans to finish its work today, wednesday, by agreeing to a short-term resolution on funding the united states government, and after that congress should go on recess for up to one and a half months and will return only after

the presidential elections. will it be possible to meet the president before this break ? zelensky, currently unknown. at least i talked to the speaker of the house of representatives, republican mike johnson, and he said that ... he is not sure that he will be able to meet with volodymyr zelenskyi, he refers directly to the schedule of the congress and the changes in this schedule, and i asked the leader of the republican party representatives stivalist , he said that he allegedly did not know about zelenskyi's schedule and that he plans to visit washington, noted that the democrats are also not sure that they will meet with volodymyr zelenskyi, but they say that even if they don't meet him, zelenskyi's visit to washington is already a good signal of cooperation between kyiv and washington. and one more question: zmi wrote that at the end of the financial year in the united states, that is , on october 1, $6 billion allocated for weapons for ukraine may burn. that's why it happens? it should be noted that this is not

just money that will go somewhere, it is presidential powers for a certain amount, that is, the biden administration allocates aid to ukraine, defense aid with tanks or ammunition or other defense aid. a certain amount of aid, and that amount was spelled out in the aid bill for ukraine that congress passed, this package in april, but the use of this presidential authority, this amount of presidential authority, had a deadline and it ended at the end of the fiscal year in the united states of america, which is ending actually already in september, that is, actually this week, next week already the new fiscal year begins, and as of right now, that sum has, as you correctly noted, $6 billion in unused presidential authority, and if that authority is not extended within this week, that money could simply burn up. earlier, president biden called on congress to pass the bill and extend these powers at the legislative level. congress has failed to do so, and so it is now

at least telling the political elite that it is worth expecting that the biden administration may take another step and extend these powers on their own and may announce it at the end. this week, but as of now , there is still no announcement about how exactly these presidential powers will be extended for almost $6 billion for ukraine. well, one more very short question, can the ukrainian authorities secure the support of the united states in advance, support that will remain after the elections? in general , this could be done if some legislative projects were voted on, or, for example, by concluding any business purchase agreements. armaments in advance, such options also exist, as far as i know, such options are also being discussed, but how big such options can be, how strong such assistance can be, and whether it can override conditional presidential powers or other allocations from congress remains to be seen, and most likely unlikely or, that is, ukraine definitely

needs to continue this assistance at the state level. thank you, kateryna lisynova, a correspondent of the ukrainian voice of america service, was in touch with us from washington. ukraine seeks permission to use long-range weapons against military targets on the territory of russia, according to the vc, this is part of the victory plan, the details of which have not yet been disclosed, or? there will be this permission, that's what nato secretary general jen stoltenberg says. since the beginning of this war , russia has threatened us, they have tried to force us to withdraw our support for ukraine, but there are no risk-free options during a war, but i believe that there will be a greater risk if president putin wins, and therefore i believe that we should provide ukraine with the necessary weapons for that putin understands that he will not win, that he needs to sit down at the table before. spoke and find a solution in which ukraine is a sovereign state. of course, zelensky wants

a peace in which ukraine wins as a sovereign independent state. and if ukrainians stop fighting, if they stop defending themselves, it will not lead to peace, it will be occupation and occupation. imagine negotiations without russia. president zelensky made it clear that they are ready to talk to the russians, but in order to talk to the russians, they need to have... strong side in negotiations, because what happens at the negotiating table is inextricably linked to the situation on the battlefield. so, again, if we want ukraine to win out of any negotiations, the only way to see this peaceful and lasting solution is to continue military support for ukraine. for the ukrainian authorities, this week's visit to the united states during the un general assembly is an opportunity to strengthen support for ukraine in the war and about expectations from. a columnist from the british told about this visit earlier on the bbc

orysya lutsevich of the royal institute of international relations. it is very important today, at this moment of the war, where to a certain extent favor is on the side of ukraine, especially the rejection of russia. it is important to demonstrate that russia can be defeated militarily, if ukraine is provided with the appropriate capabilities, in a timely manner and in the appropriate volumes. so president zelensky has two messages: the first, as he said, this war can end. than everyone expects if ukraine is allowed to do it, and secondly, that ukraine is actually quite constructive internationally player, she wants peace, she supported the future pact and is for a just peace, as the president says, and by that he means that no country's borders should be violated by force, and annexation of territory should not be legalized. it is important to remind that strikes against russian territory are already taking place, mainly thanks to ukraine's own capabilities, for example, drones. i assume that there will be an unannounced permission to strike with long-range weapons deep into russia, as various

sources told us. uk and usa can do it allow, but without loud announcements. frankly, such strategic ambiguity is important if ukraine wants to push russia out of its territory and restore peace. because public statements about what the west will or won't do play into putin's hands, giving him time to prepare for what lies ahead, and in the end, it could cost both ukraine and the west more. what can make putin sit down. to the negotiating table and end the war, one of the answers to this question may be that the russian generals should come to putin and say: we will lose on the battlefield. frankly, i think it's the only option when he will seriously consider peace talks to avoid an ignominious defeat, to avoid many russian soldiers being captured by ukraine and a collapse of the front, and he may want to do it in an orderly manner to ensure the withdrawal of troops, so at this at the moment, this seems to be the only strategy to seriously push putin to the negotiating table. because right now he's just using rhetoric about negotiations to buy time, but look what russia is doing:

next year they increase their defense budget to 6.5% of gdp, it doesn't look like russia is peace-minded, on the contrary, they are militarizing, spending more on defense and armaments, on education, health care and social support of their own people. and read more about the results of president zelensky's visit to the united states on our bbc website. ua, in particular there is an article about the victory plan, my colleagues wrote what is known about this initiative, and it is expected that tomorrow during the meeting with president biden, the ukrainian leader will present this victory plan, the details of what is known in it. well, also subscribe to our pages in social networks so as not to miss the most important news, and i'll say goodbye to you until tomorrow, see you.

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to the second peace summit? let's start with mr. viktor. mr. victor. well, it all depends on the format, but we understand that there can be no peace without both sides of the warring and conflicting, so, if the format allows, then i think it is necessary, the only question is who will represent russia, if it will be putin’s favorite horse lavrov, then the question is whether or not zelensky will be able to shake his hand, for example, but in fact, if we if we still want peace, we must negotiate not with anyone, but with russia. thank you, mr. viktor, mr. volodymyr, we already invited, and russia refused. the third circumstance, we do not know where and when the peace summit will be, the second

peace summit, and the fourth circumstance - these are not peace negotiations. "this is a big political one party, and in principle the point of inviting russia to this event, why russia refuses, is diplomatic pressure on russia to agree to negotiate peace taking into account ukrainian conditions and ukrainian interests, that is why russia refused it, so almost certainly russia will not at the second peace summit, so everyone who is against..." can be calm, but negotiations on the end of the war with the participation of russia are inevitable, but it is not known when and how they will take place, and under what conditions, judging by... under what conditions it is possible here, we are unlikely to agree to russian conditions, just as russia will not agree to ours, yes, under what conditions and where they

will be, it is still unknown, i think that before the elections in the usa are over, we will not know about it. well, actually, we have two positions, putin's position is an ultimatum to ukraine, they say, leave us the territories we entered, you, let the ukrainian army leave there, and this july. voiced by president putin, our president spoke today at the un general assembly and insisted on a just peace in ukraine, according to his formulas of peace. let's listen to what zelensky said. unfortunately, it is impossible in the un, during such... the un can only solve the problem of war, and unfortunately, very, very much depends on the power of the veto, which exists in

the security council, but the security formula, the peace formula can stop the war , if it cannot be stopped by a vote in the security council, and therefore, we offer this possibility. we are the possibility of peace, there is peace supported by equal partners, some propose freezing the conflict, in fact, in fact, for this putin will give you as a prize only more suffering and disaster. mr. viktor, is it clear that for the world community, the plan for the victory of ukraine is actually a plan. the defeat of russia, because our international partners have not yet put the sign of equality, that is, they say, yes, ukraine must win, but at the same time

they do not say that russia must lose, yes, yes, and this makes us think, that the peace of peace, well, will be achieved according to erdogan's formula, today there were also talks between erdogan and zelensky, and erdogan... said, i know, i have my own peace formula, and conditionally, the main thing is just to stop shooting, yes, here, and, he called for a ceasefire as the first stage, but we understand that, well, at least i think that's exactly what will happen, that when both sides will be exhausted, it will be clear, mr. fesenko is absolutely right that now there will be no peace talks, and rather, russia really will not come to the second... summit, but putin will scare us with blackouts all winter, will try to destroy, break through the front, so that the front rained down, or that we ourselves invited

peace through capitulation, through the fulfillment of conditions putin's july conditions, yes, because we will have blackouts and it will be cold, and we will sit without light, but if putin, if we survive this winter, and putin will understand there conditionally at the end. february, yes, by the third anniversary of the war, and this is precisely the topic, the topic will be if, well, or there at the beginning of march it becomes clear that ukraine has not fallen, the armed forces of ukraine are standing strong, we survived the winter, good or bad, but we survived, and it will become obvious even to putin that war is not an option, and then just then many people will promote, i think, both erdogan and the chinese, maybe fashion. they also want to elect a shuttler who will carry out shuttle diplomacy between moscow and kyiv, just as everyone will say, let's just stop shooting,

and this will be the peace formula that will be offered to us, because they will say, well, yes, okay, let's stop shooting , then let's take the heavy equipment there 30 km from the front, then let's demobilize there conditionally... there by, well, by some number of troops, let's have half a million there, yes, and in such a simple way will freeze in the conflict, that is freezing the conflict is the most possible option, not only that, it is an option when both sides can claim their victory, putin will say, well, we have acquired new territories there, yes, and zelensky will say, ukraine is standing. that means we have won, there is ukraine, independent, sovereign and all, and in fact this will be, well, if it were a peace plan, and

this peace plan, to this peace plan... everyone will push us, not only that, even our closest, closest allies, will push for this plan, if only because, well, all societies will get tired by that time from time to time war, well, yes, thank you, mr. viktor, mr. volodymyr, in zelenskyi’s victory plan, at least there is one point that we know for sure that he is there, this is the invitation of ukraine to the north atlantic alliance, yarmak said about this, speaking already in the united states of america, and this is probably the most difficult, most controversial point in this regard, because it is clear that the victory and the future of ukraine cannot be without nato, because nato is a reliable umbrella that will protect us from attacks by the russians on our territories,

but for... our current western partners , ukraine's membership in nato is a big problem, a problem, in particular, regarding the fifth article of the north atlantic alliance charter. if this norm in the victory plan is not accepted by biden and, accordingly, by our western partners, does this mean that this plan is a plan, as zelenskyy b said, and behind it are c and d, where this one will not be. formula and without this, without membership in nato , we will be able to defeat russia. well, first of all, i agree with mr. viktor that the situation is so ambiguous, and there can be different options, in particular the option that various countries will offer us, is a ceasefire . the other thing is that, well, i would add a lot here

. depends on who will win the elections in the usa, because if trump, judging by the latest statements, then the situation may accelerate, and even then we have to prepare the same plans, it goes, how to react to trump's hopes and not only to us, and to the european partners of ukraine, that this will also be a challenge for them, and by the way, trump's victory can fundamentally change our attitude as well to the issue of membership in nato. because today, yes, it is in our interest, not only because it is written in the constitution, there is a consensus here, and zelensky wants us to be in nato, and the majority of ukrainians wants us to be in nato, and the majority of people and experts consider ukraine's membership in nato as a guarantee, a guarantee of our security for the period after the war, after the end of the war, that is the main meaning, not only because it

will also be a sign of... our victory, because putin did not want us were in nato, and we will become members of nato, but if there is trump, it is not known what will happen to nato, what condition nato will be in, whether nato will be able to protect us under trump, yes, and then we may have to build new defense alliances, it will be a completely different strategy, completely different options, i'm just talking about this because it, well, let's say this, can fundamentally change the situation with... nato, but i will also pay attention to the fact that judging by the context, well, for example, from what zelensky said in the interview farid zakaria, that there are four basic points and one point for after the war. well, in my opinion, point after the war - it's just about nato. now it's obvious that while the current full-scale war with russia is going on, there won't even be an invitation of ukraine to nato, because that means the risk

of a direct war between nato and... and russia, washington doesn't want that, i think moscow doesn't either, but what's the problem, in moscow they understand that they don't want this in washington and are scaring them with this, they are scaring not only there the prospect of membership in nato and the application of the fifth article, they are also scaring them with missiles, long-range, long-range weapons, that's putin's statement today , this is just a testimony what he has already understood, where is the weak point, where is this point of pain and... a point of concern, or a point, let's say, of fear in trump, not even in trump, but in biden, and therefore it is necessary to press on this point, and that is why there is such a statement that if a nuclear state helps a non-nuclear state, strikes on the territory of russia, it will be a declaration of war. i'm not sure.