and the key goal of this strategic defense operation is the maximum destruction of enemy resources. the speaker is not really to blame, it is enough to look at the report from the ukrainian general staff, the numbers we see there every morning, they are very eloquent. mr. colonel, here i am following the news feed and the news feed from russia that is coming, and the propaganda media of russia are reporting that putin is now running the security council. and discuss the use of nuclear weapons, options for the use of nuclear weapons, or rather they specify the concept of use nuclear weapons, and what they are saying literally in these minutes, when we are on the air, the russian federation must take into account the emergence of new sources of military threats and risks to itself and its allies, they clarify the russian military doctrine and say that if not nuclear the state is attacking us, but for... holding nuclear states,

then russia can respond, well, putin said that russia can consider the use of nuclear weapons already after reliable data on the massive launch of missiles and drones while crossing the border, well in fact, in fact, putin said that from now on, if this happens again, we can use nuclear weapons against ukraine, to the extent that these threats - take place under themselves, well, the real circumstances in which russia is now, and given the warnings that the kremlin received bers from the director of the cia back in october-november 2022, and even more so, in april 2022, while i was at the yaveriv training ground in the lviv region, together with the officers, i was on the alert, because then there was operational information that... here - here is the russian army

will strike a tactical nuclear missile at the infrastructure of the test site, it did not happen, it did not happen later either, will it happen now in connection with certain transformations of the strategy of nuclear deterrence in the russian federation? my answer is obviously no, because the question arises, how will the russian army beat the starmat-type missile, which only made one effective launch in the framework studies. although it has already been put on combat duty, introduced into the ranks of the russian army, is it possible that other equipment will be used like voivode-type missiles, by the way, this is a ukrainian development, it continued its operation for a long time, including with the support of ukrainian specialists until the beginning of the russian-ukrainian, russian-ukrainian war, its russians can dream about anything and talk about everything , whatever, but do they have the ability to have the resources for...

another question is quite important, i am trying so hard to raise many topics at the same time and talk with you, because it is interesting to know your opinion about public sz, that is, arbitrary leaving parts, now here is the story of journalist sergey gnizdelov, who served in the 56th separate motorized infantry brigade. he announced the szh, there they appointed an official investigation and declared that the military man had committed actions that contained signs of a criminal offense. on the one hand, it is clear that there is current legislation that provides for responsibility for szch, and on the other hand, in conditions where the terms of demobilization and rotation of military personnel, who are already in their third year, and some in their 11th, are not clearly prescribed. a year

at war, there are a lot of questions for these of the servicemen themselves, who serhiy gnizdilov has, what, if it doesn't work out and there are no rules that he would, which he would follow, regarding when, when he can be demobilized, then this szh arises, or it can lead to negative results in the army, when, well, if... serhii nizdilov avoids this responsibility, these cases will be repeated, and these cases will lead to the fact that at some stage the fighters from the armed forces of ukraine will begin to leave their positions, well, some, and if you don't know how to act, act according to the law, and i don't care obviously, if the nester has committed an offense, he must answer according to the letter of the ukrainian legislation, and here he cannot... there may be

some misunderstandings, but what about the need to rotate ukrainian military personnel, who serve for 2.5 years, who serve more duties of military service, then... it is obvious. let us recall our modern historical experience. between 2014 and 2017, ukraine went through six waves of mobilization and, accordingly, demobilization. what hinders the current military and political the leadership of our country to return to such a practice, i do not understand. i often heard certain objections from the ministry of defense, from the general staff, that it was impossible. but wait, now we already have 14 brigades prepared. the president talks about this, he also complains about the fact that only four of them are equipped with weapons and military equipment, so perhaps it is worth sending this personnel of the same newly created brigades to the combat brigades, so that at least they can partially rule there for a certain period of time for a prolonged period of time, the process of rotation, and maybe

even demobilization, maybe it is worth reactivating the case of mobilization processes with clearly defined time indicators, at which time intervals will... citizens of ukraine be called within the framework of the next waves of mobilization, because if such an algorithm works, it is possible that those willing to voluntarily more will join the ukrainian army. i think that the adaptation of ukrainian legislation to the conditions of modern full-scale war should take place, and these transformations are quite possible to realize the current political power, why this is not happening, for me it is a rub. mr. colonel, still. short question, i hope for an equally short answer, because the people's deputy of ukraine, oleksiy honcharenka, is the only source i've seen so far that claims that the new directive of the ground forces command not only stopped the conscription of men from 18 to 25 years old, but also does not allow the forced mobilization of men over 50

, except by special order. to be honest, i did not find this order anywhere, it is obvious and... or under vulture is completely secret, but goncharenko wrote about it: how likely is it that such an order exists? there can be no documents issued either by the ministry of defense, or by the general staff, or by the ground forces command, which contradict the norms of ukrainian legislation. as soon as changes will be made to the law of ukraine on mobilization and mobilization training and a number of other normative acts that will change the age limit. of those citizens of ukraine who must be called up as part of the mobilization, well, for example, from 25 to 50 years, then ok, we can talk about it, and for now these are incitements that are spread by the people's deputy, but again, information of this level should be communicated primarily by official spokesmen, if it is about

the command of the ground forces, then, accordingly, the command of the ground forces , perhaps the general staff or the ministry of defense, so far i have not heard or seen any official statement from these officials. thank you, colonel, for the conversation. it was vladyslav seliznyo, military expert, former spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces forces of ukraine, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live there, please take part in our vote. today we ask you about whether russia should be invited to the second peace summit. so, on youtube, everything is pretty simple: a yes button, a no button, and your own comments that go beyond the limits. you can leave these two unequivocal answers in the comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, take it use your smartphone or phone and vote by phone. if you think that russia should be invited to the second peace summit (0800-211-381, no), 0800-211-382. all calls

to these numbers are free. vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. then ihor is in touch with us. reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development. mr. igor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations. so there is a big presentation in the united states of america, a plan for victory of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyi is there, he spoke there both at the un security council and at the un general assembly today. but against the background of what... that the ukrainian delegation demonstrates its desire to defeat russia, russia, through the mouth of vasyl nebendzi, russia's representative at the united nations, says that the russian federation will continue a full-scale war against

ukraine if the west does not will allow the current ukrainian government to be overthrown. let's listen to what was said. we treat ukrainians with respect: they are a brotherly people with whom we are associated historical ties, several million of them found refuge precisely in russia, if not the west'. will allow us to get rid of the cancerous tumor represented by the kyiv regime in a peaceful way, if the geopolitical considerations of the usa and its satellites turn out to be more important than saving ukraine, then we will continue the special operation until its task is accomplished by military means, if we have no other way to achieve peace. that is, mr. igor, russia does not want any... peaceful, and they said until we destroy the current leaders of ukraine, they will not

calm down, and the head of the ukrainian state says, we have a plan for victory, does the plan for the victory of ukraine mean a plan, is it a plan for the defeat of russia? well, in any case, it will be a defeat for russia, look, russia is already losing, because they already had some goals, they actually got others, and they understand that those goals, even intermediate ones, which they ... exchanged during 2.5 years of large-scale war, they are unattainable, they will never achieve them, and even a large part of the so-called russian political economic elite admits this, they do it so far indirectly, sometimes with an indirect text, but the logic, well, this logic is followed in their statements, moreover, even putin himself, who constantly changes the goals of this war, he essentially admits that some of them simply will not be achieved, but in fact , we really have, well, such a cardinal mismatch between the vision of ukraine and the vision of russia that, in principle, it is quite expected, here

it would be appropriate to expect that russia will somehow change its position and be ready to withdraw, for example, from our territory, but it does not reject none the less the fact that the russians are waiting for this peace plan to be made public, and since this peace plan certainly does not touch the territory of the russian federation itself, we understand very well that ukraine is not going to occupy part of it. russia, the kurdish region, and so on, this is simply a defensive operation that can be stopped if there is a certain need there. so , then it will be interesting to see how the actual rhetoric of the russian federation will change, including the rhetoric of those countries that occupy in relation to russia, well neutral or even a certain partner position there. and here you had a very correct, interesting question, whether to invite or not to invite? it seems to me that it is necessary to invite, but this summit, well, it must take place. under the format of the plan presented by ukraine. will russia refuse? well, great, then the whole world

will see that she does not really want to sit down at the negotiating table, talk about something, and actually, well, think about how to solve this situation, which she created, by political and diplomatic means, if she will agree, well, that's normal too, because in this way, they at least recognize the perspective and the expediency of the plan actually presented by ukraine. well, here we are now. well, at such a stage, when everyone is waiting for when this plan will be announced, but the most important thing is not even that, the most important thing is whether this plan will be fully supported by our partners, russia is now trying to act somewhere ahead of time, that's where putin's statement was, where he started saying that there are some massive drone attacks do they receive a nuclear response from russia with missiles there and so on, this is just an attempt to change the situation, as it were, and yet to slow down the granting of this permission to ukraine itself, which in turn indicates that russia in this story is actually very... she is afraid, because she knows that she will not be able to answer her adequately, and she

will suffer a lot from this, so we will wait a couple more days, we will see this plan, we will see the actual reaction of the partners, and then we will look at the reaction in the last place of the russian federation, and nebendiv, he completed his compulsory program, went out, read something there and will go back to where he basically spends all his time when he is not speaking at meetings of the united nations. mr. igor, i asked for a reason. about whether there is an equal sign between the plan for victory and the plan for the defeat of russia, the plan for the victory of ukraine, because for our western partners, these are obviously different concepts, that is, the plan for the victory of ukraine and the plan for the defeat of russia, can the same biden or our other western partners clearly say, or why they don't talk about it, that putin's regime for... not only ukraine, but the whole world, and that our task is to defeat this regime,

if not russia, then putin's regime. well, look, they really have such a fear, i, well, i would n’t even call it fear, look, they still don’t have the most important thing, they don’t have an understanding and a scenario in general, and what will happen if russia really loses, loses in that plan that it will hit the regime as it is today, because well, well, let's say this, if russia withdraws from the territories that it now temporarily occupied, this is a defeat for russia, because they set themselves one goal, they do not achieve it, accordingly they lose, without even losing a piece of their territory, because in modern languages... we are talking about wars, but we are not talking about specific there is the loss of certain territories, we are talking about other somewhat global things, things of the narrative plan, the discourse plan, and in this context it is of course the defeat of russia, and since the west has so far, and this is a paradox to a certain extent, at the official level, the possible scenario, such scenarios at the expert level

there are, by the way, they are quite actively presented in specialized publications, and experts there discuss these issues, but at the official level there is no such... change, then all this boils down to the fact that ukraine should not lose, but the question of victory itself, it indeed, in this regard, they are not rising, well, they are not rising, and by the way, we remember how there were statements from our partners that ukraine has already won, but it has not lost its statehood, it has retained its legal capacity, subjectivity there, army, the vast majority of territories there and so on, if you had preserved democracy, you would have already won, but for us today this is not enough history, and when we... present our plan, the president presents the plan, i think he called it the victory plan for a reason, because it is from one on the one hand , a certain challenge, and on the other hand, well, it puts our partners somewhat at a disadvantage in terms of diplomacy, in the sense that they cannot deny obvious things, they cannot admit that let's agree to some even half-terms of putin and not give possibilities, which means all territories of ukraine

actually return, so let's hope that sooner or later this evolution will be completed in them, and they will not see anything in the fact that it was destroyed, even if indirectly, even if not by their hands, even if as a result of defeat in of russia, putin's own regime is destroyed, and then it will be possible to talk about the dream of all russian, so-called liberals, the beautiful russia of the future, yes, i don't think that, by the way, it will be so beautiful and will have some kind of great future, but let them dream they can and will be able to talk about it later even to try to implement this in practice, right now in the united states of america, mr. igor, a presidential campaign is unfolding, and before his visit to the united states of america, president zelenskyi said that he would meet with biden, with harris and with trump, but the associated press reports, citing a representative of trump's staff, that the republican candidate will not meet this week with ukrainian president volodymyr

zelenskyi, who is on a visit to the united states, and the publication also states that in tuesday. trump praised russia's military experience in historical conflicts and ridiculed american aid to ukraine, assuring that if elected president he would quickly end the war started by moscow. well, here is one remark about historical conflicts, he mentioned napoleon and the second world war. now we're going to listen to what donald trump said at a rally in georgia that the united states of america should withdraw. from the war in ukraine, we will be stuck in this war, unless i become president, i will, i will get out of it, we must get out of it go out. biden says we won't leave until we win, what if the russians win, they know how to fight, as someone

told me the other day, they beat hitler, they beat napoleon, that's what they do, they fight, and it's nasty. mr. igor, trump, as i understand it, is already starting to play on putin's side, or not? trump is just frantically trying to save his company. let's understand one very simple thing: firstly, sociology has been playing against him for the last two weeks, and if before it was, you know, a constant roller coaster, then trump, then harris, then trump, then harris, now harris has 5%. and she keeps them, and what's worse for trump, she keeps them in the swing states, which will actually determine the fate of the campaign, and i understand that trump's headquarters have made such a decision that we will wait at least that zelensky presents this, well, this plan, biden will see it, harris will see it, and then trump will simply choose for himself,

or he will pounce on this plan, and in essence, what did he do beforehand and start the story... that it is bad history and so on only he will save from something there, or i won’t even be surprised if he suddenly changes his position and meets with zelensky so that he has the last word, most likely it will be the first option, he will start criticizing him, because he has now such a position is just criticism, it is not even criticism, it is criticism, and in this context there is nothing surprising here, because he held such a position before, and now it is clear that he has certain panic moments, right here and a strange statement for him to make that... if he loses, that means he already is allows such a possibility, he will not run for office in four years, and there are also some other moments, and again the repetition of this completely idiotic statement about the russians who... won from napoleon and from hitler, from napoleon the russian empire and the union won other empires, because napoleon was finally defeated first by the massacres of peoples at leipzig, and then at waterloo. and

there is nothing to comment on hitler at all, i think he offended a significant part of americans who fought in north africa, sicily, italy, normandy, then stormed berlin. therefore, in this context, he is now simply caught up in this so-called peace-making rhetoric, he is trying to spin this scarecrow. well, war, and here putin, i don't know, directly and indirectly plays along with his latest statements, as it were, and he hopes that this will bring him a certain result, so this is not even so much a story about playing on putin's side, but a story about what he just clings to any opportunity to somehow turn his campaign around, to come back, if it were more confidently, and perhaps drag his side even that part americans who are undecided, he believes that scaremongering about war, the participation of the united states, and so on, should have an effect on them, well, probably in... a positive way, and they support trump in this context, although it is far from a fact that even support biden will present the outline of the plan that he presented, more precisely, president zelensky,

well, it will mean what trump is talking about, about some direct participation of the united states in vienna, and so on. today, vladimir putin held a meeting with the security council, and he announced that russian is expanding the doctrine of nuclear deterrence, now they have reworked it there and, accordingly, non-nuclear states, which according to... a nuclear state, but with the participation of other states, can receive a response, and i understand that putin in this situation wants to warn our western partners not to provided missiles and other weapons that can fly towards the territory of the russian federation, to what extent are these warnings by putin addressed to our western partners, to what extent... can they be implemented by the current putin regime? listen, you know, it seems to me that this is another threat, so inadequate, yes, about the fact that even the launch

of a large number of drones or some missiles in the direction of russia immediately receives a nuclear strike, not in response, well, this is a specific scarecrow with which he is trying to really send a signal of the west, do not give ukraine permission to strike weapons on the territory, western weapons on the territory of the russian federation, but i think that this is... nothing more than words, this is the expected absolute reaction, they were preparing for this, they dispersed this topic in advance, i will remind you that, on the one hand, not must of course to underestimate such threats, but after february 24, 2022, russia at the official level threatened more than 30 times to launch nuclear strikes on ukraine and the countries of the west, and they constantly drew some new red lines there, the simple question is, what is a mass attack drones in... they write that they shoot down 100-120 ukrainian drones that fly towards them, is it a mass attack or not, but on the other hand, they act exactly the same, and they do it in an

aggressive manner, by attacking another state, that's why you know, this is an attempt, as if to warn, but pay attention, these same changes have not yet been introduced, it will only be discussed, it will be introduced, how it will be implemented in practice, well, it is difficult to say, especially since according to russian data, russian data state for the 23rd year. only 14, and then they listed, 9% of russia's nuclear potential is in a state where it can be used in practice. this is the key point. i really hope that the west will not react to such, well, very banal threats, and in turn will remind putin many things that he violated, that he actually transgressed, and will remind who is in the wrong position in this war, who started this aggressive war in general, so i think it will be nothing more than words, and hopes. that somehow they will reach the western elites and they will not give this permission to ukraine, well, they may not give a public permission, well, there will be no public permission, and then a game will begin, which russia has always lost, you

draw red lines, and we actually cross them further, well, it's more than once was about the shelling of the crimean peninsula by military units located on the russian peninsula, well, let's keep an eye on it, because this statement about the expansion of this doctrine, it is clear that it has two addressees, it is a western audience and an internal russian audience, because in ukraine putin will probably not surprise or intimidate anyone with these statements, yes, because in the 2.5 years of the great war, they have already tested here, it seems, all their missiles, all their drones, all their weapons that they have was, they simply already did everything they could do, the only thing in they are left. it is a tactical nuclear weapon. thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation, it was igor reiterovich, a political expert. and we, friends, continue our broadcast. i would like to remind you that throughout

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