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several apocalyptic scenarios, we don't like them, those who voiced them to us, so to speak, keep calm, cold blood beats in their hearts, i'm talking about both officials and non-officials , our common people are experiencing much more, that is how, what and so on we will do during the time winter, if the enemy strikes the objects of... the energy industry, well, because this, well, this can have extremely deplorable, if not fatal consequences, for many ukrainian men and women who may simply not survive this winter, somehow we treated this matter too calmly, although, as far as i understand, something should be done in an accelerated mode, in a square, in a cube or i don't know, well, what about all that, how about you, as a person who knows ,

there is a lot about energy, how do you assess the level of preparation for these critical scenarios, order? well, i believe that there was a criminal act of inaction on the part of naek-energoatom, which did not build protective structures of the second level over open distribution devices, and now i am reading new news that the chairman of the board urgently left. a business trip to check the state of protection of critical infrastructure at two of our western nuclear power plants, this is, firstly, secondly, what i really don't like, well, firstly, this is a large-scale shelling on august 26, when five , six energy units, seven workers, and that was it not related to hitting. to open

the switchgear next to the as, in the transformer substation of the second echelon, every day i read that, for example, subscribers in 11 regions of ukraine were cut off, today, for example, i read the notes of ukraine to the address of magate, which, for example, on the 12th at night, there was a mine nearby, so dangerous. proximity to the nuclear power station, that near the south ukrainian nuclear power station on the 18th of the 20th there were two suicide bombers, today the news was that near rivnesk, as for the day before yesterday, for example, they are provoking, that is, a terrorist attack around the khmelnytsky nuclear power station, for example, he was allegedly headed for an industrial site, with the aim of an attack, and then he changed

the trajectory, turned his movement, that is, everything is very serious, for now, here are the statements that sibyga also made the president in new york, he said about that attacks on nuclear facilities are planned, not actually on nuclear facilities, but on the network responsible for the species'. we will explain, because we actually understand that the enemy has a desire to create a complete blackout for us, and we understand that damage to the distribution systems and this infrastructure will force our power engineers to stop the operation of the nuclear power plant, and this in turn will mean that we will be deprived of a huge amount of electricity generation, respectively, for how many days, for example, we imagine, we simulate the situation, the russians hit. or cause certain damage

to such objects, accordingly, we urgently stop the operation of some of our power units, we will not talk about specifically just some of our power units, but perhaps entire power plants, and in order to ... then restart the power plants, as long as it takes to spend so that they start working and to ukrainians electricity started coming home, but returning to the criminal inaction at econergo, unlike ukrenergo, which made a stock of transformers of different voltage levels, energoatom did not make a stock of these, and if there is a hit, open the distribution devices. for example, it is the property of energoatom, not ukrenergo, and if, for example, there will be some studies in the second echelon, so it is related to the generation of power, and aes cannot work if they are not in a working condition, then

okrenergo has such reserve, and in okenergaatami no, it is next to the ac, these are located from. because they were engaged in some preparatory work for the construction of x3 x4, they bought and repaired some crane for uah 215 million, some construction wagons, etc., but they did not create stocks of transformers for their as, and these, for example, burned down at the same time in july in a day, two transformers of the southern ukrainian as, and i saw that they... announced a tender for the purchase of transformers, fired the director, appointed another, but the problem is not solved, if we are actually talking about terms, returning to my question, if it is necessary to stop the work of the as, then how many hours, days, weeks, months is possible

, yes, i cannot provide such forecasts, unfortunately, because there are a lot of undetermined factors, well, ms. olga , we are optimists, yes, we hope... that someone will come there, you know, in a yellow car, with such a booth on top, and fix everything there in a couple of hours, well, this is such a bitter macabre irony, but if we say, for example, to restore, let 's take the academic situation, something happened there and we need to restore this transformer substation, huge, powerful, we don't know, god forbid, what kind of destruction there will be, but in general, to make it somewhere in the west, how long it will take approximately. and tentatively, is it possible, for example, to order it now from wheels, that is, well, the americans would give us money for it, we would immediately transfer it there, so to speak, well, and buy it, well, here is ukrenergo, i am an example, this a positive example, they ordered from the 22nd year, because some

transformers are manufactured for a year, this is, firstly, secondly, they built this second -level protection against shaheeds and ulkan missiles, it is clear that it is impossible to escape from a ballistic missile, and this also reduces the damage, 16 large transformers were damaged during shelling on august 26, but you see, we already have no shutdown schedules, for example, the kyiv substation has been large since the beginning of the 22nd year, but since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, it has been hit 22 times, but we have light, you understand? in other words, ukrenergo is the farm of ukrenergo, they quickly restore it, there are still farms operators in the distribution of electricity, this is the former oblenergo, i do not know this situation, because these transformers are more or less

voltage, they are their property, and they are ready, i did not see information in public access, whether they made stocks for their transformers and so on, father is also important. and there are many of them in all regional centers of regional energy. look, mrs. ulyu, i would like to clarify, but when they draw us, well, bad scenarios, but in principle there are elements of optimism, so that they say that this winter the lights will not be turned off there in emergency method, and it will be turned on for several hours, and where is the information that it will be possible, where to take it from, to turn it on for several hours. well, firstly, i hope all the atomic ones will work. power plants, nine power units for the autumn and winter period, and there will be no such force majeure, and the equipment will not fail, because if, for example, due to some operational event, 1000 megawatts are lost, this is

very important for our power system, if take into account that we lost 900 mw due to shelling, that is, half of what how much... what we had, when we entered last winter, now something is being restored from thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants, but we will not be able to restore all children. megawatt we can export 1700 mw per day, well, the europeans promise that there will be a crossing of 2500, but this is not enough, how many thermal power plants have been restored, i do not know, there is no open information, but my energy expert colleagues estimate a deficit of four, well, 4 thousand. megawatts, it will be a deficit, and if the weather is warm and sunny in winter, then somehow we are there

more or less in comfortable conditions, and if, for example, frost, several days -10, well, it will be difficult, ms. olga, we understand that the absence of light even for a few days, this is not the worst that can happen if the russians will rummage through these distribution, actually infrastructural facilities, we understand that... you know, it's the lesser evil of the greater evil, because the worst is when, unfortunately, we may not have time to turn off these reactors in time, and accordingly there will be some kind of reaction, and this reaction will be difficult to deal with . in fact, do you think we are preparing for such scenarios now and do they exist realistic, and what should ukrainians prepare for in this context, well, first of all, i think that ukrainians have already understood what to do for self-sufficiency during the winter of 22-23. as for

the attack that took place, our power units, by the way, are preparing for missile attacks, well, i won’t tell you, this is a patent, even, but on the 26th, even though they were prepared by nuclear power units, for the first time we there was a situation when automatically the protection systems did not... work, because the frequency in the network dropped a lot, and the reactor did not know what to do, so in this situation it is necessary to do conclusions, jointly, jointly by ukrenergo, the energy atom, which blamed ukrenergo for this situation, and all expert institutes there should develop an algorithm for training staff actions. to such cases as happened on august 26, that is, i believe that they should

conduct an investigation, and not blame ukrenergo for the fact that due to shelling, the purity was 49, that is, instead of 50, that is, this is the translation of the transfer of blame, well, this no, not a recipe for the survival of our state, well, in any case, this is our favorite national sport, you understand, translate... guilt, yes to try, well, to make someone responsible, responsible or extreme. thank you, ms. olga, an extremely meaningful conversation, olga kosharna, an expert on nuclear energy and safety, you calmed down, ms. olga, calmed down, until your hands started shaking, well, what are you going to do here, meanwhile, the russians attacked the railway station in sumy oblast, three people were wounded, but around 1:00 p.m., the enemy hit the khutyer mykhailivskyi railway station, the town of druzhba z shosto, with fpv drones. district, three employees of the railway station received injuries, and the situation near the coal mine

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