headed the security service of ukraine and i will say that from my experience, from such conversations, you are 100% talking to a person who knows everything, and you must understand 100% that you understand everything, what you are talking about, but here is what i think, what with naryshkin and with russia, mr. burns, the current director of the cia, spoke on behalf of the president of the united states at the time, and he started with that, what with me, on the authority to recognize the united states, i clearly tell you that in case if... first of all we know that tactical nuclear missiles are tactical, not to be confused with strategic ones, with the sarmatians, you plan to hold meetings with your such and such generals, there closer to the border with poland, this is the 22nd year, hit, scare someone and so on, so don't scare anyone, one, we know about such plans, two, and third and most importantly, the answer will be something like this: the black sea fleet goodbye, and other goals, i am skeptical at the same time. that some personal threats

were used by mr. burns, and there is no need, why threaten anyone personally, if then the allies, remember in the 22nd year, after the americans actually shared the information that they had done, the f-35 squadron flew to london, and the russians found out right away, what the hell they said, we are here, try, the second, submarines, the president, submarines, the french president instructed, the french went on combat duty. by the way, they have some of the best, with nuclear warheads, as well as the american nuclear deterrent forces, from electronic to missile, were strengthened, transferred to combat duty, and the russians immediately put their plans somewhere else, well, thank god for us, so what we still lacked was for them to train for us in the 22nd year. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we have a long way to go. a story from the polish capital, after this

story volodymyr ogryzko will join us, and we will talk with him about the foreign and political aspects of zelensky's visit to washington and to america in general, what will be in the story: in the polish capital, a space has been created that will unite ukrainian businesses and communities in one place. in honor of the opening , a festival was organized so that ukrainians in poland could get to know... the residents of the hub, maria chernyakhivska tells about the mission of the new space and the first guests. victoria is an artist from kryvyi rih who moved to warsaw after the start of the full-scale war, and now the artist is preparing to open her own art studio on the territory of the ukrainian hub. in addition to training, which will take place both on a paid and charitable basis, victoria has her own social project. i am doing a charity project. strength, will, love with

portraits of ukrainian soldiers, where everyone can fill out a google form, leave a story about describe your warrior and receive a free portrait of a warrior from me as a gift. there are currently about 20 residents of the hub, say the organizers. these are ukrainian companies that work in the field of education, culture, beauty and fashion, gastronomic businesses, or those that provide services in the field of legalization. jurisprudence in poland. there are businesses that are physically present, they work here and participate in the activities of the hub, and yet they have a discount on rent. and we have such initiatives that are absolutely free for ukrainians, for example, we will have a sunday school ukrainian language. we will hold free master classes once a week. each resident of the hub will choose which services to provide free of charge to ukrainians, so a lot of trainings, lectures and events on various topics are planned here. at the festival, which coincides with

the opening , volunteer organizations also introduce their activities, for example, ms. tetyana, who has been living in warsaw for more than two years and in her free time sews nets for the ukrainian army, a woman teacher of ukrainian language and literature from the occupied part of kherson region half of the children, unfortunately, remain in the occupation, the others, for various reasons, could not leave, and for them this education is extremely important, but extremely difficult, because the children are persecuted all the time. families are squeezed, they are forced to go to a russian school. a veteran of the azov regiment with the call sign wikipedia also came from kyiv region to support the initiative. from the stage of the festival, the soldier spoke about the role of ukrainians abroad. i believe that the most important topic in general, which should be conveyed to everyone, without exception, to ukrainians outside the borders of ukraine, is that they are the face of our nation, the face of our culture, the face of our country, and it is from them in the first place... the attitude

of the residents, citizens of the country where they are located depends, and this affects the decisions of their politicians, already the decisions of politicians affect precisely whether ukraine will win this war. the festival was attended by many ukrainians with children, mostly residents of the eastern part of ukraine who left for warsaw because of the war. yavochka, tell me, what are you going to do here today? dance. four-year-old eva and her mother came from zaporizhzhia. such measures are important for family, so that the child preserves ukrainian identity, says svitlana's mother. we want to return home, in principle, but how we go is not up to us. therefore, so far, so far, these measures are very supportive of us. everyone found something at the festival. doing things to their heart's content, from dancing and painting to consulting and buying things made in ukraine, those willing could also make their charitable contribution to the needs of the azov regiment. maria chernyakhivska, ihor antoniuk, for the espresso tv channel from warsaw. friends, we continue to work in

live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms. please subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey, today we ask you... about whether zelensky should fire the ambassador to the united states of america at the request of the republicans, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, or yes, or not, please leave your own opinion, your separate opinion in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone, and vote on the numbers 0,800, 211, 381, if you need to dismiss the ukrainian ambassador to the united states of america, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. and we are in contact with a politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-9 volodymyr o. hryzko. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. i congratulate you, mr.

serhiy, good health, i am glad to hear from you and i hope that our discussion will be seen by our dear tv viewers. let's continue, mr. volodymyr, since we are asking our viewers. about this appeal that appeared from the americans, in particular from the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states of america mike johnson, that oksana markarov should be dismissed from the post of ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america, because of zelenskyi's visit to the military plant in pennsylvania, and in this, in this action only democrats participated and there were none. i apologize to the invited republican, so that our tv viewers understood what it was about. the visit was clearly a party pre-election event, designed to help the democrats and clearly interfered with the elections, referring to zelensky's visits. this short-sighted and deliberate political move has caused republicans

to lose confidence in ambassador markarov's ability to serve this country fairly and effectively as a diplomat, and she needs to be removed from office immediately. well. a strange letter, to be honest, how widespread is this practice in the world, when representatives of a certain party and government, not government structures, but there chambers representatives, uh, appeal to the president of another country to recall the ambassador. well, you know, to be honest, for all my diplomatic experience, it's quite a lot, well, it's the first time i've seen it. just such an event, you know, well, i'm not talking right now, sorry for the word, i wouldn't expand this whole story to the topic of some scandal, something, some failure, and so on, well, it's not like that, it's just about her, well, an extraordinary aggravation

internal political struggle in the united states of america, that is, any any event, any step. it is examined through a magnifying glass and any attempts to accuse someone of something and somehow stick to it. look, in july of this year, it was not so long ago, president zelensky was in a state where the governor was a democrat and a republican, and i don't remember that the democrats staged demarches and demanded to be fired. er, the ambassador of ms. makarova of her position, well, it just looks quite funny, but you see, in connection with the fact that, according to all current polls and signs, haris is a little ahead of trump, well, you have to look for a reason

to explain why this is happening. well , now, unfortunately, some republicans have not found it. nothing better than getting involved in zelenskyi's trip to the factory, which, by the way, you also need to know and understand, to organize. not markarov, but organized by the protocol department of the pentagon, well, markarova here, that is, if there are complaints, then please express them, well, tell your administration that it did wrong, but here the ambassador of ukraine to the states, who, who , as well as others simply came to this plant, because in such cases, and this is a normal practice, the entire organization is taken over by the host side, that is... the american side, that's all, that's why it seems to me so, you know,

quite not, unrepentant , an unscrupulous attempt by some republicans to explain that now not everything is going according to their calculations, and it is even possible to prepare public opinion and find some certain arguments why they say we will lose, well, because... as you can see, ukraine is interfering in the election campaign , that's it such an inadequate argument that, it seems to me, it is not particularly necessary to pay attention to it. and should we, mr. volodymyr, pay attention to what trump is saying now about zelenskyi, because he accuses the president of ukraine of, as he said, dirty little attacks in his direction during a campaign rally in north carolina, a candidate for the presidency of the united states.. of america from the republican party criticized zelenskyi, in particular, for attacks on himself. let's hear what trump said.

the president of ukraine is in our country, and he makes dirty little jabs at your favorite president, me. but look at the war going on in ukraine right now. "this would never have happened if i had been the president, there would not even have been a need for a settlement, it would not have happened , period, russia would not have attacked, i talked a lot about this with putin. mr. vladimir, you are a diplomat, of course, and well in given the situation, no, well, you probably can't be harsh there about what trump says, after all, we have bipartisan support, and it's not clear who else will become president, of the united states of america, but secondly, ukraine has

a special place and special importance in trump's election campaign. for the first time, when the election campaign was going on and there was a conversation between president zelenskyi and the then presidential candidate trump and the president at the time, then it was said that zelenskyi should contribute to this investigation of the company. now we see that trump is not satisfied with zelensky, because he did not want to negotiate with putin and did not want to make concessions, i understand, putin, does this mean that until the end of the election campaign or the election campaign, we will be watching how trump will use this ukrainian card, given that he says that americans spend a lot. for this war, i will do everything to stop it, well, this is a way to prove to the americans that biden and

harris, they are squandering, roughly speaking, american money, that it is much easier to end this war, well, obviously, mr. sergey, that trump is now playing the card of a peacemaker, peace lover and the kind of leader who can easily and without problems any conflict, or the kind we have today, the question is only at whose expense, you see, he never says how i 'm going to do it, i'm going to put them at the negotiating table, well, you can put them at the negotiating table, well, i i don’t know, a crocodile and its victim, and what will come of it, well, i simply cannot imagine the format of such negotiations and the subject of such negotiations, because president zelenskyi... that he will not talk to putin, and this decision is not only his, this is the decision of the national security council, uh, that is, such

things, uh, have such, you know, element of populism, in which mr. trump, i think, is the absolute champion at the world level, as of today, at least, in my opinion, he is the most important populist who can be in the political, so to speak, er... . in the world, if brothers, brothers, well, of course there are others, well, but he is simply a representative of the most powerful state, and this populism, he really is. may have very serious negative consequences for america itself. therefore, i think that the ukrainian map will be used, and let's not remember hunter biden as much as we will remember this other the second attempt at an assassination attempt on trump and again they draw the ukrainian tail, now you see trump

talking about the fact that zelensky attacked him somehow... he is coming, well, i don’t know, maybe i missed something, but i clearly know what zelensky said not very nice things about his potential vice president, and calling his proposals far from reality and so on, well, here trump , as far as i know, no personal attacks were made, and that's right, you can't do such things, but if his , well, so be it say, the deputy is formal... talks nonsense, well, you have to say it very calmly, it turns out that you can talk nonsense to vance, you can’t answer them, well, it’s not good, normal relations between partners are not built that way, so it was a completely normal reaction, uh, and i think, in summary, by november 5th of this year, we should be ready

for any twists, turns, but given the eccentricity of... trump, i think he can change tomorrow his point of view, and tomorrow he can say yes, i do i want to have a conversation with zelenskyi and find a common language and talk about how we need to defuse this conflict, quite realistically, given the type of his character, so let's not put an end to it, mr. volodymyr, just at this moment the meeting of president zelenskyy with president... biden, and then there will be a meeting with the vice president of the united states of america, kamala harris. zelensky brought the plan for the victory of ukraine to the president of the united states of america and the vice president, he also planned to show this plan to trump, but trump, as i understand it, refused to meet with zelensky for the time being,

no one knows for sure the content of the whole plan, well, at least in ukraine, whom i did not ask, no one saw this. of the plan, what is in this plan, but judging by what the western press is writing, the biden administration is not impressed by zelenskyi's victory plan, this is what the wall street journal writes about with reference to officials familiar with the issue, what the publication writes, the publication writes about , that zelenskyi's plan was called repackaged with requests for additional weapons and the lifting of restrictions on the use of missiles of the far soviet union. but in the plan itself there is no clear strategy for achieving the victory of ukraine against the background of the constant advance of russian troops on the battlefield, and there are also no points about political reforms and reforms in the economy, considering the fact that according to the amount of knowledge that we have and the fact that there is at least a clause that ukraine is waiting for

an invitation to join the north atlantic alliance, is it possible to... draw some conclusion, what will be the result, what will zelensky come with after the meeting with biden? well, you see, mr. serhiy, you are right when you say that we did not see this plan, well , as a person who has worked in diplomacy all my life, i am used to working with a document when it has a title and the last final word. part of it contains conclusions or suggestions and so on and so on, well, as of today, i have not seen this document, so commenting on something that you do not see is quite, well, let's say, an unpleasant thing, because it is not professional, i am the first first of all, i appreciate those people who are professional with

an understanding of what they are talking about, express their opinion, i have heard something about this plan. i can't say that i heard all the details, but what you quoted in the american press really says that it is precisely our military needs that are most professionally spelled out there, let's ask ourselves the question, what is the plan to defeat putin, these are exclusively economic reforms, these are some... some social programs, this is something of that type, or is this after all giving ukraine a tool that can break the backbone. to the russian military machine, i think that it is precisely this accent that should be paramount, the main and very, very well and concretely prescribed, if it happened, then it is very

good, yes, there should definitely be a piece of it, moreover, it is not a small thing that we will finally break the backbone of our own corruption system, because if we ask the west help, but... hundreds of billions of hryvnias are going into some black hole in ukraine, well , this is wrong, it must also be taken into account and clear things should be written in this connection, if we need to reform the customs, then we should write that we within six months from corrupt customs or individual elements of this customs office, you cannot say the same about all of them, we will definitely make one that will not be so corrupt. and place the beacons clearly and clearly, we do this in september, this in october, that in december, in january we finish the work and sum up, then this is really the plan, so i really hope that we

will still see what is written, and if there are any blanks, so to speak, some white spots, then believe me, the expert environment will be happy to finalize this plan, so that it can be presented, perhaps in in a modified... form, once again, no one gives us a deadline, no one tells us that this plan is only today and that's it, tomorrow we can't do anything further, we can, so i think that let's wait until this plan will be public, as much as it can be public, because we also understand that when it comes to the military aspects, they should never be public, we should not give the russians the pleasure of knowing that we plan and how it will happen, but we are... able to understand the trends, and what is there that does not need a vulture secretly, then we can , just as civil society, as

mass media, work on working out those things that the americans have so far, or our western partners in general still cause, well, a certain misunderstanding, that is, if you need such an element, let's really send it... we will strengthen it, if something needs to be added or removed somewhere, let's do it this way, it's a living process, but very good thing it finally started if there are answers to the questions of who does what , when he does it, with whom he does it and so on, that is already a step forward, mr. volodymyr, but here is this point that i emphasized, the point about inviting ukraine to the north atlantic alliance, or isn't that, let's say, the highest thing that is being asked from... the country now is the highest in order to get something that is a little lower, meaning weapons, aid, financial aid, that is,

the leadership of the ukrainian state sets a high bar , but it is clear that this bar will not be reached for a long time, well at least the next four months, while biden is still in the position of president of the united states of america in order to get something less. well, here, mr. sergey, the question is yes, of such a strategy, why should this item be in the plan, well, because it is really a guarantee that we will be safe, can we not forget about it, can we not, another question is that those people who don't want to actively help us will latch on to this and that point and say, you see, instead of them talking about some specific urgent things, but in in this case, then look at what you write about military affairs, there are specific things, but they want to go back to generalities about nato and so on, realizing that some

countries, at least now, oppose, well, let them oppose, but we should not forget it and leave it out of our agenda, because it is an element of real security, without which we will not feel normal, as long as, uh... there will be this quasi -empire to the northeast of ukraine, if it disappears, well, that's another matter , then we we will be in a completely different world, as long as it is the only guarantee of security for us, it is membership in nato, so we must remind about it so that people there do not think that we have forgotten about it, well, i think so somewhere, or maybe mr. volodymyr, the invitation to nato to be a response... to putin's nuclear threats and to the change of this nuclear doctrine, which took place on september 25 at the meeting of the bezu council

of the russian federation, well, that is... "when putin's ultimatum was in 2021, at the end of december, after which membership in nato was obtained finland and sweden, or is it possible that our western partners will be able to formulate a response to nuclear threats, the next nuclear threat, precisely by inviting ukraine to the north atlantic alliance. i think that until november 5, there will be no such things. there will be no plan, and i will explain my opinion, because trump will cling to this thesis and will spread the idea that, you see, the democrats want the third world war because they invite ukraine to nato, and for russia it is, well, said the last fat red line and then they can start the third world war, although at

this will certainly not explain the fact that finland and sweden also became nato members and that putin declared red lines and they ceased to be so, because now the flight time for even the quietest missile from a nato country to st. petersburg - it's 3-4 minutes, eh, and strangely enough, somehow the third world war did not start, so i think that these are all false theses. but until the end of the pre-election race, i think we should wait from the biden administration, there is no need to take decisive steps now. as i said, it starts right now biden's meeting with zelensky, we have photos so far, no video footage of the president of ukraine entering the white house, please show the delegation, you see, we are

in real life. we are currently showing how it all happens in washington, that is, we are waiting for the results of this meeting, mr. volodymyr, what could be the results of this meeting? well, i think they are already there, because after all, almost 6.5 million, billions of euros, or rather dollars, sorry, this is already a result, and this is the result that we need as much as possible now, so this is already a big positive. the announcement that long-range missiles for the f-16 will be transferred to us is already a positive, it means that there may not be an announcement with fanfare that ukraine can now strike, but what is the point of transferring long-range missiles if they are not to be used, so this is already a signal that the decision has been made, but most likely it will not be simply announced publicly, well, then it is

a strain. they know when the next missile arsenal or something like that will fly into the air, and then everyone will understand what it is about, so the results are already there, but we you just need to be very calm right now and avoid this inflating the problem around visiting the factory so that it all settles in, i think it will give its very positive result. thank you, mr. volodymyr. for talking to you, it was volodymyr ogrysko, politician, diplomat, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. friends, we conducted a survey throughout the broadcast and asked you whether zelensky should fire the ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america at the request of the republicans. 22% yes, 78% - no. here are the results of this survey. next you waiting for news from the bbc. i'll say goodbye to you until tomorrow, it was

serhiy rudenko's verdict of provia program. take care and their relatives. goodbye. russia is changing its nuclear doctrine. ukraine is considered blackmail. how will the west react to such intimidation from putin. we talk about it on bbc live from london. i am yevgenia shedlovska. in short, russia will be able to use nuclear weapons in response to a missile or drone attack, putin announced the day before. at a meeting of the russian security council on nuclear deterrence, putin announced planned changes to the doctrine: aggression against russia by any non-nuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state will be considered their joint attack. the kremlin can use nuclear weapons if there is a critical threat and the adversary uses them.