intimidate the west by expanding russian nuclear doctrine. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next hour, we talk about war, peace, and how our president is in the united states of america with a big american tour and... what are the consequences, there are positive, there are negative consequences, there are trump's statements, there is an expected meeting zelenskyi with biden, which is to be held here in washington. we, we are waiting for the results of this meeting, of course, because the president is there zelensky will present the plan for the victory of ukraine. throughout our program, we will have two guests, valentina lyvaychenko, former head of the security service of ukraine and people's... of ukraine, as well as volodymyr

ogrysko, ex-minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest watching a video of how fighters of the 109th separate mountain assault battalion of the edelweiss brigade staged another fire show against the occupiers in donetsk region. with the help of fpv drones, they effectively destroyed enemy infantry fighting vehicles like them expressed themselves in the sarai modification.

glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about whether zelensky should fire the ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america at the request of the republicans. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, you can write your own opinion in the comments under this video. if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you think so. that zelensky should be released ambassador of ukraine to the usa at the request of the republicans, or simply put, trumpists, 0800-211-381, no 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's first guest, this is valentyn nalevaichenko, former head of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine. mr. valentin, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you. well, first of all, we ask

our viewers and tv viewers whether there should be a reaction to the statement of the speaker of the chamber of johnson's representatives that ukraine should recall markarov because she arranged a visit to pennsylvania by president zelenskyi and seemingly played along with the candidacy of kamala harris from the democratic party, or whether we should react somehow and what the reaction should be, you know, if i, as the ambassador of ukraine, fired for something like that, something like that. then diplomacy would not exist at all, i will say that definitely not, firstly, no one is going to fire the ukrainian ambassador, and secondly, this should not be done, a political reaction one or another party on the actions of the ambassador is one thing, and the ambassador always represents his country, there is no doubt here, and we do not need to have any inferiority complex, but to go forward firmly, and ukrainian diplomacy must work, help, organize and make visits . the president,

the prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs, these three people are responsible for our foreign policy, and how does what they ask correlate with the norms of international diplomacy, in general, i say right away, it does not correlate at all, this is a political assessment, an assessment, but you and i have to understand, i worked for a long time in the united states and saw more than one election campaign that was there, and what we are seeing today, and in another month and a half it will be voting day, i i think that these are the hottest months and a half of the presidential campaign. states of america, there will be many political dramas, there will be many scandals, the main thing for us is not to get involved and not to let our diplomats get involved in such scandals, well, this scandal is unfolding right before our eyes, because the presidential candidate donald trump of the united states of america from the republican party at a rally in north carolina made one of the harshest public statements, the harshest public statements regarding the war in ukraine, he accused the president of ukraine of refusing to enter into an agreement. from russia, which allegedly led

to the destruction of the country. let's hear what trump said. what do you have left now, in three years? terrible fighting, the country completely destroyed, millions and millions of people, including all these distinguished soldiers, dead, these magnificent buildings with golden baths destroyed and lying in ruins, you will never see any city or town again, never, they will never be rebuilt, they are all destroyed, except kyiv, they were thousands of years old, just think, three years ago you had... a beautiful civilization, now a bigger one part of the country is gone, so many people died, many people left for poland, hungary, other places, they will never return. at the same time, trump added that

there will not be enough money to rebuild ukraine, even if the whole world comes together, in his opinion, if he wins his rival in the elections, harris, more ukrainians will die, cities will fall. what is the reason for donald trump's sharp reaction to zelenskyi? well, it’s coming, you and i just deciphered it, there’s a political campaign going on, you know, at rallies, if it’s to quote politicians, even ukrainian, any and even american ones, when they are candidates for president, they smoke, you know, everything is on fire, especially political ones opponents, and it is clear that this rhetoric of the republican candidate, mr. trump, is against the rhetoric of the democratic candidate. young, really promising kamala harris, she, by the way, is the vice president until now holds this position in the biden administration. but i will tell you, after all, as a person who knows the united states well, my advice would be to the president of ukraine, after all, i do not know who advised him that it is necessary

to show one candidate and the other candidate a plan of ukraine. the only one who needs it, if you show it, is the current, distinguished president of the united states, the incumbent. this is how america works, this is how american institutions work. the white house is the white house, and no matter who is in it, you have to deal with it work. in congress, whoever is in congress, in the senate or in the house of representatives, these are the two houses of the parliament of the united states. we need to work with democrats and republicans. this is what i am talking about us, about ukraine, and i myself have done so more than once. what was, in my opinion , not completely verified was what we will show the presidential candidates. but no, why, if there is? republicans and democrats in the congress, if there is a white house, you have to work with them, moreover , if the president of ukraine wanted or wanted to address politicians politically, well he speaks english, i would write down and advise him to write down an appeal

in english, but not to american politicians, not to american elections, but to the american people. words of gratitude, words of gratitude for supplies, new jobs for. which one of the candidates republican trump, job job jobs, is campaigning for, is that jobs, jobs, jobs, created, filled and recreated, thanks to the fact that ukraine is fighting, not destroyed, thanks to the fact that the armed forces of ukraine are fighting to the russian aggressor, but thanks to with american aid, there are actually jobs, huge salaries are paid, a whole mechanism has worked, this is only one plant in pennsylvania, and such plants are only for patriots, you know how many... in the states of pennsylvania, arizona, texas, ohio, four states, this, i will tell you, a lot of people live there, that is why the appeal, if it was made, and the plan, if it is to be shown, is from the direction of the people of the united states of america, because i decipher it and no one will tell me otherwise

that the support of ukraine is because we are supported by the american people, not because one of the politicians wanted to, well, but zelensky came... while in pennsylvania, he just confirmed trump's thesis that jobs, jobs, jobs, why did trump have such a strong reaction to this , because in principle, zelensky showed that americans, in principle , help themselves first, and the 60 billion that trump constantly talks about, that zelensky came, extorted 60 billion dollars and that's all, but they remained in the united states of america , we only took iron from there. yes, that's why you don't need to get involved, there was and is now in political debates, in political rallies, well, there are presidential elections, well, let's do it, for our tv viewers to understand, strenton, where this plant was located and is located, which the president of ukraine visited, this is the hometown of us president biden, a democrat, the hometown, and it is

pennsylvania that state that is among those that swing, in america they are called swingstate, and it is for those, for these states, for these voters that they fight... fight, well, i'm not wrong in the verb, both trump and kamala harris are fighting, well they are fighting, so let the american people choose their president, why are we in this battle, we have something to do, especially here . we are not kidding, we are talking about the armed forces of ukraine, we are talking about the fact that president biden saved 5.9 billion dollars by transferring to his presidential powers, the funding of defense weapons for the armed forces of ukraine from the pentagon reserves, this is serious, because 1 in america , the fiscal year ends in october, that is, the budget is all, if the money was not used, it would all burn up for this year, namely the congress, which let it be late. allocated 60 billion, so the remains, if the administration

of the current us president biden had not done so, would have burned up, so who do we care about, the current us president biden. moreover, i will remind serhiy, he has been in the office for the last four months, and he has been the full-fledged president of the united states for four months. i think he can do a lot more for ukraine, and zelensky hopes for that. a meeting between zelenskyi and congressmen is currently taking place in the capitol. the president of ukraine arrived in washington to meet with american legislators, now we let's show a fragment of this meeting, it's all happening live, and it 's happening against the background of zelenskyi's expected meeting with joseph biden, literally in half an hour, zelenskyi has to meet with the president of the united states of america and present to him president zelenskyi's plan for ukraine's victory in... capitols met senate majority leader chuck schumer and

senate republican minority leader mitch mcconnell. later, as i said, there will be a meeting with president joseph biden. already the president met biden on the sidelines of the un general assembly, and it was obviously some kind of protocol and such a ritual meeting there. we are all waiting to hear what the president of the united states of america, jose, will say. biden, although he is called a lame duck, because she, he will soon step down as president, that's what the americans call it, we don't call it that, well, i mean, the americans call it, so forgive me, what can we expect from joseph biden's reaction to this plan victory, because the american press, it already writes about that american officials are not very satisfied with this victory plan, because they say that the main thing there is a request for weapons, but there is no strategic vision of how this victory should come to ukraine, i would also add that maybe they expect that there

a plan for the defeat of russia will also be written, because the plan for the victory of ukraine, everyone is talking about the plan for the victory of ukraine, our western partners somehow avoid the issue of the plan for the defeat of russia, because the relaxation, as it were, as if we must win, but they believe that russia will not should lose, is it possible, i think that the meeting, which will begin in the white house these minutes from... half an hour, between the president of ukraine, the president of the united states, biden, will be the main content, and this is what the president wants to hear usa biden from ukraine, from the ukrainian president, how exactly do you see the way to defeat russia, to remain an independent, democratic state and to join the european union in the near future and have the prospects of membership in nato. i checked every word of it i say how those that will really be discussed by the two presidents now, regarding the meeting in the congress, it is really important,

but here, thank god, everything is correct, the two parties that we talked about with you, not even, seeing this plot, the two parties, that is, the republicans , and the democrats, what difference does it make, who is in the majority, who is in the minority, i assure you, by the end of the year it can all change, because in america there is a constant election and a constant rotation, especially in the lower house, in the house of representatives, but even i know the beds i saw personally chaka sumer and micha, they put on, well, you saw the colors, blue and yellow, it's both a democrat and a republican, but it's expensive, you have to use it as bipartisan support. more specifically, in addition to talking about the plan brought by president zelensky, us president biden is ready and will be, i think, in an hour or two, these decisions will begin to be announced from the white house, the president himself , us president biden himself, what is he ready for? ready for a series, for several series... decisions in support of the armed forces of ukraine and in support of ukraine. the first series has already started

solutions is additional funding. there was 375 million dollars yesterday, and for missiles for f-16s, ukrainian f-16s, such serious aerial bombs, with a serious distance, let it be no more than 110 km, but that is not bad either, because just with f-16s too they can and should be launched by our armed forces, that's and... until the training of additional ukrainian pilots next year in the united states, that's 18 pilots, to be precise, the united states will train in addition to those of our aces who passed on ... study in romania and others countries, this is already a package that has been announced, but starting today, i think that the president of the united states will announce additional billion steps of funding for additional patriot systems, missiles for the patriot, which is no less important than the battery itself, because it is no secret that we need, especially our anti-aircraft defense, namely

additional stock, missile ammunition for anti-aircraft systems. of air defense, you see, every night, you and i do not sleep, starting at two in the morning, and we hear the last explosion at 10 in the morning, these are the people of kyiv, zhytomyr region, and all of ukraine, odesa region, now, kharkiv is again under fire, which means that the f-16s, which we already have, and which we will additionally receive, need modern missiles and modern guided aerial bombs to destroy those terrorist installations, those russian terrorist systems that are terrorizing. ukraine every night, which will be a series of decisions from the us president, i think it will be clearly guaranteed that membership in the european union and additional funding for energy recovery, the us will increase the package, as germany just did, by the way, you see, how allies act they're literally hours apart, germany, i

think right now is forecasting the same as the united states, and the third, most important, in my opinion, is that. that us president biden will confirm that after october 10 of this year he will be at ramstein at the american military base in germany, and us president biden will be going there with him, french president macron, the prime minister of great britain and chancellor fern, of course , because this is a country, there are four world leaders, the entire anti-putin coalition will be gathered there, which is more than 50 countries, and i think that this will be one of the most serious and the most well-prepared events in support, direct support of ukrainian defense, we must not rush ahead, let's take a little time, but after the announcements we must pay tribute. us president biden will be from october 10 in ramstein, and there will be a group meeting of the entire anti-putin coalition with ukraine about weapons, about the armed forces, about

specific decisions here and now for ukrainian victory, by the way, against the background of what he said. trump about the fact that ukraine never will restore what was lost, the g7 countries signed a declaration to which another 30 countries and the european union joined, and this declaration provides for further military, economic and humanitarian aid, both in the short term and in the post-war period. this was announced by the president of the united states of america, joseph biden. let's listen. today we publish a joint declaration. on supporting the recovery and reconstruction of ukraine, to clearly state that we will support ukraine now and in the future. everything will start from the battlefield. i am determined to provide ukraine has what it needs to win and fight for survival. tomorrow i will announce a series of actions to accelerate support for

the ukrainian military. but we know that the future victory of ukraine is something more. than what happens on the battlefield. it is also about what ukrainians are doing to make the most of their free and independent future. zelensky spoke before the un security council and the un general assembly and said that western countries should force the aggressor country russia to make peace. the press secretary of the kremlin dmytro piskov immediately stated that neither russia nor russia can supposedly be forced to make peace, well, zelensky spoke quite carefully and diplomatically in the un general assembly and at the security council as well, although on the other hand, russia is a member of the security council in terms of veto and vote, it is in the un general assembly, although

russia's presence in the un general assembly and the un security council raises many questions. questions about legality, because they entered the soviet union as legal successors, yes, but the league of nations at its time in the 39th year excluded the soviet union for the fact that the soviet union attacked finland, and why can't history repeat itself, when russia loses the right to vote both in the un and in the un security council, because it looks like the one who is the aggressor, the biggest, is now the aggressor in the world , he decides the fate of the whole world by voting at the security council and the un. this is what should happen, russia should be excluded from the security council and from the un in general, and not just excluded, but also finally apply total, trade, economic, financial sanctions, i say total. that allows russia to avoid at least such serious ones financial and economic sanctions and exclusion from the un, this is china, this is india, these are those countries that

are huge in terms of economic, political, human potential, in the end, a billion 400 million each, what some have, what others have, only the population, and they are there have a huge weight, as well as theirs, albeit a small, small number, and satellites, so we are not just alone here. ukraine should insist on this, but i will tell you that it is very inspiring that the prominent president of the united states and other world leaders, even the president of finland, oleksandr stup, joined the the position that russia should be excluded from the un security council is clear, and the un security council itself must be reformed so that it no longer happens that the aggressor, as you rightly say, makes decisions sitting, firstly in the security council, and secondly, makes decisions that , how to continue to terrorize the whole world, like me... to continue to scare the nuclear assembly, like putin, you know, everything failed, he realized that he will never defeat ukraine, and again he grabs that nuclear stick and rewrites the doctrine

for whom, intimidating in fact, if you asked me, i'm sure it's all doctrinal putin's fever is only for his own citizens to intimidate, to show, well, and many other things, you know, there is no need to explain in the kursk region, i will explain to you what kind of supernuclear missiles we have there. let's listen to putin, because i'm going to explain to our television viewers, maybe some of you haven't noticed, but yesterday the president, the self-proclaimed, let's say, the president of russia, putin held the security council, and they were looking at the expansion of the russian doctrine of nuclear deterrence there, and what putin said, now we will hear that the list of military personnel for... to neutralize which has been supplemented nuclear deterrence measures are used, which i would especially like to draw your attention to, in the updated version of the document, aggression

against russia by any non-nuclear state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear state, is proposed to be considered as their joint attack on the russian federation. mr. valentin, can you take what... putin is saying and what they've done with this nuclear deterrence doctrine, as they say, to play along with trump in this situation, because trump will say, "look, look, russia is threatening the world nuclear weapons, we need to stop this war, we need to stop financing the armed forces of ukraine, and in this way come to some kind of peace formula, because you see that if we deliver something there, then putin promises to strike with nuclear weapons. i don't think it's possible." to intimidate trump with such statements, the more so, remember when trump was president, he summoned all these russian spies, closed the consulate general, even san francisco, russian and other actions are quite harsh against

putin and his regime. we hope he isn't has changed in his firmness that russia is actually a threat to america, to american citizens, not less, but the same as to us, and to the whole world, especially after such, as i say, doctrinal innovations. in quotation marks, but i still go back to the content, as i understand it and read it professionally, i didn’t watch the video, but i read what putin read from a piece of paper, i’m a professional, you know, that’s what i suggest to anyone who wants to do it analytics, but quickly not for long, put this piece of paper and read not what it claims, how we will intimidate there, but read what they are afraid of, they are afraid of drones, they are afraid of missiles, they are afraid of the fact that ukraine is supported by all the antipots. the coalition, in fact, he read the list of fears of the kremlin leadership and the putin regime itself, and this list of fears, they have something to grab onto, their

only stick is nuclear, the only thing i can reassure everyone is that even their sarmatians, which, which billions have been invested, none of them can get off the ground, they just explode in those holes, holes from which they are trying to launch them, and it is supposedly some kind of medium there. possible and warhead, that's why i decode it and look at it, and i advise others not to be afraid, but to see what the kremlin is so afraid of, i think, but he set such a high bar and then everything remains, and everything again, and remember how it was the 22nd year, well, it was also difficult, winter, war, we are all here, it would seem that it was not for that, but remember, he also put together some kind of burial outfit, but it seems that there was... alone him and this the minister of murder shoigu was then the same chief of the general staff gerasimov, and he then announced in a grave voice some kind of intensified nuclear

everyone in turn. everyone raise all the russian forces with missiles to fly and take turns, well, then it was scary, indeed, at that time russian troops were already exploding near kiev, but since the 22nd year, he was afraid of the whole world, then by rotation, then by renewal, then by doctrines, then simply threats, i think you know that, when nothing succeeds and when everything that he promised falls apart, he collected and used a lot of russian money instead of paying his own citizens something, no er... to kill ukrainians, then they again grab for nuclear weapons, which, again, i say, their condition and quality and quantity are under huge question. at the very end of our conversation , i wanted to ask about the meeting that burns, the director of the cir, told about with naryshkin, they met in istanbul when russia wanted to use nuclear weapons against ukraine, and they had a meeting in turkey, how such meetings usually take place and what such

meetings? they can, what they can talk about, that is, they lay out the full map, the cards are full and say, listen, well, if you hit ukraine, we will hit here, here, here, there, and in principle everything will be destroyed by the leadership of the russian federation, that is, how harshly such conversations take place, well, i myself had more than one such conversation with burns, including with two previous directors of the cia before that, but in the past i was the head of the security service of ukraine, and i will say , that from the experience of such conversations, you are 100% talking to a person who knows everything, and you must understand 100% that you understand everything, what you are talking about, but what, i think that with naryshkin and with mr. burns, the current director of the cia, spoke on behalf of russia the president of the united states at that time, and he started with this, that i am on behalf of the president of the united states, i am clearly telling you that in an attack, if, first of all, we know that tactical nuclear missiles, tactical, not

to be confused with strategic, mate, you are planning you are holding meetings, your so-and-so generals are there closer to the border with poland, this is the 22nd year, to strike, scare someone and so on, so you do not scare anyone, one, we know about such plans, two, and the third is the main thing, the answer will be so-and-so, the black sea fleet, goodbye, and other goals, i'm with it i skeptically think that some personal threats were used by mr. burns, and there is no need, why threaten a person... if the allies then, remember, in the 22nd year, after the americans actually shared the information about what they had done? the f-35 squadron flew to london, and the russians immediately found out, moreover, they were told, we are here, try it. second, submarines, the president, submarines, the president of france instructed, went on combat duty, the french, by the way, they have some of the best, with nuclear warheads, as well as

american the nuclear deterrent forces, from electronic to missile, were strengthened, transferred to combat duty, and the russians immediately put their plans somewhere else, and thank god for us, because we still didn't have enough for them to train on us in the 22nd year. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, ahead of us is a story from the polish capital, after this story to us. volodymyr ogryzko will join and we will talk with him about foreign policy aspects of zelenskyi's visit to washington and, in general, to america, which will be in the plot: a space has been created in the polish capital that will unite ukrainian businesses and communities in one place. in honor of the opening , a festival was organized so that ukrainians in poland could get to know the residents of the hub better.

maria tells about the mission of the new space and the first guests. victoria is an artist from kryvyi rih, who moved to warsaw after the start of the full-scale war, and now the artist is preparing to open her own art studio on the territory of ukraine hub in addition to training, which will take place both on a paid and charitable basis, victoria has her own social project. i am making a charity art project, strength, will, love with portraits of ukrainian soldiers, where. everyone can fill out a google form, leave a story about their warrior, tell and receive a free portrait of a warrior from me as a gift. there are currently about 20 residents of the hub, say the organizers: they are ukrainian companies working in the field of education, culture, beauty and fashion, gastronomic businesses, or those that provide services in the field of legalization of jurisprudence document circulation in poland. there are

businesses that are physically present, they are here... they work and participate in activities.