we are expanding and announcing recruitment, inviting civilian specialists from various fields, experienced commanders will ensure your high-quality training and education, fill out the questionnaire and choose the direction where you can be most effective. we are waiting for you in the team of tssoa asbu. let's write history together. victory details on the official pages of the sbu. greetings, dear viewers, today on the spresso tv channel there is an interview that is worth listening to. we invited volodymyr kudrytskyi, he is the ex-head of pradnek ukrenergo. i congratulate you. congratulations. there was a person who was talked about a lot there are many rumors, but today we will dismantle all rumors and try. to understand what

happened, what are the prospects now, well, specifically for mr. volodymyr, and of course, to a greater extent, you are interested in whether we will have light, what are the prospects of our energy system, in fact, on the eve of the autumn-winter period, on the eve of the heating season, but we will start we are still from your release, at that time the main motivation that was voiced was that the objects were not ready for enemy strikes, the shelters were not worked, the energy system... serious damage, people were sitting without electricity, and how was your dismissal a logical continuation of this story, but in fact , no one still understands, and why were you dismissed from your position? well, actually, this is a vivid example of how it is possible through anonymous telegram channels and there podcasts, youtube of some bloggers to try to turn the media field, so that reality is actually turned upside down. the fact

is as follows: there are about 80 main facilities operated by ukrenergo. ukrenergo is a company that transports electricity through main networks and has several dozen substations that just deliver electricity from the main network to the oblenergo network, and already about 70 ukrenergo facilities have storage facilities for the most critical type of equipment, these are autotransformers, this is actually... big machines, so big devices that convert the voltage from a very high voltage of the mains class 330 00 to 750 00 into a voltage that characteristic of distribution networks that reach every house and all 17 million subscribers that currently exist in ukraine, these autotransformers, as many probably know, were the objects of attack in 22, 23, and in 24, the russians also quite actively tried... to attack them with shaheds, so

anti-shahed protection is built on the absolute majority of our facilities. i would say that such cynicism and the paradox of the situation lies in the fact that at no other critical infrastructure facility in this country, protection of this kind has not been built so far, so if we talk about some bad results of ukrainian energy construction, then for sure after all, it is necessary to start not with the organization that built together with zagerstom where... the restoration of about 70 structures, probably look at those objects where nothing was built at all. if we talk specifically about our company, now the trunk network is quite well protected by these engineering fortifications. and by the way, the last mass attack, where more than 100 missiles and 130 drones were used, ugh, it just demonstrated the reliability of this defense, why? because...

there were outages for several days even after that they disappeared, that is, all the bottlenecks in the network, after the arrival of several dozen missiles, they were eliminated literally there in 10 days, which of course would have been impossible if the objects were not protected, you understand what the arrival of a missile in any facility, whether in a residential building, or in an industrial facility, or even more so in an electric power facility, so all these objections are simply an attempt to somehow... justify that situation, what happened and i will try, as time has shown, quite unsuccessfully, because, actually, as you yourself say, the questions remain, and i already commented on this situation, i believe that this is simply an attempt to take control of the company, including on the part of the ministry of energy, if not to reveal certain secrets to the enemy, first of all, but if you say that there is a shelter and there is a system of shelters that

has proven itself on the good side due to the fact that, of course, in a fairly short time , energy is supplied to homes, not only to homes, to various institutions and institutions was restored, that is, there is a case, you saw those places where, relatively speaking, there was or the fall of the shahed, or fragments of rockets, or some other things, and it protected, so there were direct, there were cases of direct hits of shaheds in these shelters and the shelters worked perfectly, the equipment was saved, and in most cases such equipment was put back into operation on the same day, these shelters , because we talked about it, but somehow such an answer. well, maybe there is no such answer, because maybe it can’t be voiced, but i’m just wondering if there is a certification of these shelters, or if it’s done by specialists, it should work, that is, by some such body that would come and say, yes, it's certified, it's a shelter, here it is, well, not quite a shelter, because it's not what

we should have, it's certified, there is an authority, and you know it, it's called the general headquarters, uh, the design of these shelters, that is, the design. they were formed and implemented according to the requirements of the general staff, which clearly understands and knows what the impact of the combat unit there is of various types of kamikaze drones of the shachet type, at what angles they can hit, what is the force of shahed's explosion there when... in contact with the surface of this storage and so on, i.e. all these technical parameters, provided by the general staff, were implemented in these projects, and the projects of these storage facilities would also be approved by the general staff, so if we are talking about a certain mark of quality, then it

is first of all issued by the general staff, if we talk today about the protection of the ukrainian energy system, you many they said, but of course people think like that, well, surely not everything... is closed, not everything is secured, and something else should be done, this work continues on the creation of protective structures and will the time that remains actually be enough before the arrival severe cold in order to make the most of what is possible today for shelter, well, we are now talking about ukrenergo, well, if we talk about ukrenergo, then i can responsibly say what a mainline. with which power is transported from large power plants to oblenergo, you can not particularly worry, the first stage of shelters, which are the most critical, which allow stable transportation of electricity during the autumn-winter period, this first stage

is actually already finalized there, and absolute most of the shelters that were supposed to be built, they are already built, the equipment is being placed there, it is now being connected to the network. there is a planning process that will be completed there during the month of october this year, so i would not worry so much about the ability of energy to transport power, and the biggest attack, which i think was on august 26, if i'm not mistaken, it just shows that that even such an attack cannot cause any catastrophic consequences for the energetic, when we talk about shelter, we must also... understand that there are about 100 large objects in the power system and about 30,000 small ones, 100 large ones are a couple of dozen large power plants and about 80 substations of ukrenergo, all these large objects have an area of ​​tens of hectares, some power plants

have an area of ​​hundreds of hectares, and it's clear that you can't make some kind of conflation, like in chernobyl over the square there. i don't know, 10 or 100 football fields, it's physically impossible and impractical, so only the critical elements of each object are protected, well, for the okrenergo substation, as well as for power plants, by the way, autotransformers are one of such critical elements, which convert the voltage from a higher class to a lower one, in order to be able to further transport this electricity to citizens, to industrial enterprises, to hospitals, to schools, kindergartens, and so on further. er, accordingly, when there is a strike, either by a missile or by a kamikat drone from some facility, there may be some temporary outages while repair crews fix the non -critical equipment that can be quickly replaced, but the main thing is to secure the most complex, the most

expensive equipment, which takes a very long time to replace, it can take weeks, even months, and this is exactly what this energy facility protection program is focused on. if we talk about what still needs to be done before winter, of course, now it is necessary to focus on protection, engineering protection of ours in such an emergency, urgent order. power plant, because if the ukrenergo network historically has a large safety margin, and today already, when winter has not yet arrived, it is nonetheless capable to transport power, well, through , including through transformers, which is twice our highest maximum consumption in the country, then with generation, with electricity production, the situation is exactly the opposite, you know that the country has lost more de... gigawatts of generation, that's more half or half of all available

state generation for last winter, and not all of this power will be restored before winter, accordingly we will have fewer power plants in operation, fewer power units in operation than last winter, and those power plants that have now survived and those power plants, which are currently being restored and will be restored before winter, but they must be protected, they must be secured. because they have almost the same substations next to them that connect the power unit to the grid, these substations also need to be protected, and of course, first of all, we need to take care of active protection, that is, working with partners to strengthen our air defense forces , because air defense, it gives there 85-90, probably percent protection against missile and drone attacks of the enemy, and by the way, now the italians have... a second sumpti system to transfer to ukraine, i think that their initiative is supported by other partners, there germany also

promises to give more for the front, but i think also for energy defense, well, you say that now we have half as much as last winter they had, i remember last winter, there were also those there and the day before, and candles and points of unbreakability, it happened that even in such more or less cities, which are far from the front, well had to sit for more than a day without electricity, that is, of course, now it must be the case for people that if we are talking about this gigawatt promised by the president let's talk, again, it's not the president's responsibility, it's a gigawatt to provide, he said, well, we'll see how it will be implemented, but in any case , we must understand that when the load increases, it will increase, because the heaters, there are people will use more electricity, then in any case, even if everything is fine with defense, repulse enemy attacks, damage will be minimal, still scheduled blackouts will return with the disappearance cold weather, because that's how i understand it... but the amount that is there, it will be needed, well

distribute evenly, which means that someone will have to save, despite the fact that there are critical infrastructure objects, as far as i understand, which must be provided constantly. you are right in saying that the objects of critical infrastructure are heat supply, water supply, drainage, they, well, some other objects, they must be provided permanently, they are not included in these queues of shutdowns, actions. indeed, in cold weather, with the onset of cold weather, the consumption will increase quite sharply, at the same time, it must be said that it is relatively today, the number of generation units will also increase, because some nuclear power units will be repaired, the repair campaign for automatic control systems will end, some power units of thermal power plants will be repaired, that is , it cannot be said that we will enter winter with today's generation composition, no, it will be greater, but the increase in consumption in relation to today. it will exceed the growth of the generation that we will have calculated for

the winter, and therefore in the cold periods of winter, when the temperature reaches -5 -7 -10° on average per day, the electricity deficit is very probable, let's say so, and it is not overlapped by the available generation resource, which is planned for the winter. also by additional volumes of imports from europe, which ukrenergo provided after uniting the energy system of ukraine and europe in the 22nd year, but this import, firstly, unfortunately, is not used to the full extent, it is used for approximately 30- 40%, well, because quite often in europe the price is still higher than in ukraine, that is, people should understand that we are not just given this electricity, we buy it at a higher price at a price than ours. at what it is bought there by mainly private companies and some state-owned companies there on a commercial basis,

that is, after buying electricity in europe, they must sell it at least without a loss in ukraine, and when the price in ukraine is lower than the european price, of course this is impossible, and to whom do they sell consumers or business people on the electricity spot exchange, which is called the market, need it in advance, it is a market today for tomorrow, there are different options, but mostly electricity is imported. for large industrial consumers who this is how they protect themselves from blackouts, because there is such a decree of the cabinet of ministers that allows you to avoid blackouts if you import a certain percentage of your consumption. well, and accordingly, its industrial enterprises for the technological process of which blackouts are very harmful, let's say so, they are very sensitive to these blackouts, in this way , by paying a little more for electricity, they nevertheless protect their production from this negative phenomenon. we will now continue to talk about things about energy, technology,

preparation for winter and other important issues. but let me ask a question that was dispersed in such a way, you know, as in this, as in a vacuum tube , very quickly, and even so it was discussed about the bonus that you allegedly received when you left the position, the head of pratnek ukrenergo, and it was about 40 million hryvnias, here it is interesting where this amount came from, in principle, who was the first to voice it, because it must be a person who has access to a certain financial reporting, well, i mean, i think that not everyone knows how much... he espresso employee can get a bonus, if he got it there, well it is necessary to have, to have some insiders, who was the first to voice this figure, why 40 million, and was there any prize at all? well, first of all, i must say that, as far as i know, the telegram channel of trukhai was the first to announce this amount, such an anonymous telegram channel, which is not the first

time announcing lies, this amount has nothing to do with reality. they published, by the way, an interesting fact, they published such a part of the photos from the minutes of the meeting of the supervisory board, where the need for a settlement was also written upon my dismissal, well in full with me as an employee, including the payment of those not previously paid there, not previously made payments for previous years. starting from the 21st, because according to my contract, part of my salary and bonuses were paid to me there, it was actually withheld until the end of my contract, or for several years, and where the amount of 40 million came from, i simply do not know, it fictitious, just like the fictitious story about the poor protection of the ukrenergo substation, which are apparently the only

objects protected in principle in this country, and i can say that... indeed, part of the bonuses there for previous years that were not paid, i received upon dismissal, this is a completely normal practice, when an employee is dismissed, he receives all the payments due to him, and the amount of these payments is many times smaller , than what was voiced by the trukha telegram channel, was picked up by 3.5 bloggers and one people's deputy, who was very actively interested in this very issue. and very little interest, for example, in the issue of protecting infrastructure objects other than the substation, you know, i, for example, generally never likes to count other people's money, well, you won't have more of it, someone won't have less of it because of that, you'll just lose time and possibly nerve cells, but in any case, when such information gets into the public space ,

many people will hear and not hear when this information will be refuted, and... when there will be time in ukraine, maybe, well, there are already such precedents, of course, but aren't you interested in it, let's say, well, for example, to submit to the court of people who will voice such information, just not because you are there you will win something, or you will have extra money, most likely extra trouble, well, but simply it would be such a lesson for such figures, and next time with the next employee of a state company or a politician, they just thought whether to write outright lies or not write? well, good advice, i will actually think about it, i want to say that unfortunately, probably the amount of payments to the head of ukrenergo over several years is less than, for example, the amount of the bribe of the deputy minister of

energy for one transaction, and i think what the problem, the main problem... is not that telegram channels write lies, some people there who have their own youtube channels spread the mandates of deputies, it is that with a high probability, unfortunately, this is done for money, and this money is not taken from the white salaries of the top management of the companies, but from the scribes, just so that everyone understands who is behind it, because if the media has, well, there are certain media that have less influence than individual telegram channels, now 70 more. than 70% of ukrainians get their news from telegram channels, by the way, this is yesterday information, research, it's just a fact, and that's why if, relatively speaking, the espresso tv channel, or the pryamy tv channel, or the rada tv channel or any other. the tv channel is answerable to the national commission, to the law, well , other people must also be answerable, because in fact it is already a means of mass information, well, because again, ukrainians get this or that news from there, and

one more question, again anyway, here it is, well, not personnel, but these rumors, they must be finished to the end, and then we will return to the generation and waiting for the autumn-winter period, and they wrote that your dismissal could be behind... minister of energy galushchenko, if so, why did this information appear? well, this information, first of all, i also said in previous interviews that i consider the ministry to be the initiator of this whole situation. i repeat once again that this situation has nothing to do with the bad or good protection of the substation, it is a complete absurdity, and it is just a wish. it is possible to control the operational activities of the company, attempts at such control started back in the 21st year, control the money, control the money, control some, i don't

know, personnel appointments within the company, and since the 21st year, active attempts began there to offer me very good people for various positions in the management of the company, who i rejected, there were attempts to change the management of the company outside the supervisory board. in the 21st year , already during the invasion and in the midst of the invasion, there were attempts to change the government once again, there were attempts to dictate, for example, the order of payment of debts on the electricity market, well, that is, there were quite lively attempts to interfere in our activities like this, and with documents, with official letters and orders. and so on, and we never once succumbed to these attempts, they stopped at some point, obviously, when people realized that

there was no point in talking to us in such a language, but numerous inspections began, first a ministerial audit, then the state audit service conducted an audit with the participation of representatives of the ministry, then numerous investigations by law enforcement agencies, we... by the way, the attacks too, and they didn’t start before my dismissal or after my dismissal, they started many months ago, i remind you that the same lie was published about my salary of 2 million uah, and in my opinion it was the telegram channel trukha actively dispersed this fake, well, and some other things, there they counted how many air conditioners there are in my house, well, they just published some delusions, but obviously it was such art training for me as well... it is absolutely obvious that these attempts were made with greater or lesser intensity, well to finally get this control over the company, but now it is a paradoxical situation, because

due to the rather active reaction of civil society, including our western partners, who entrusted ukrenergo with 1.5 billion euros of funding during the invasion, it more than attracted the ministry and other energy companies taken together, after this reaction. the process stopped, that is, i was fired, my deputy was appointed by the supervisory board, duties, yes, oleksiy brecht, this is our technical director, and in fact now there is such crossroads, i.e. or the normal management system of the company will be restored, when the supervisory board is created, it must have a majority of independent people who... supervise the company's activities without any consideration of anyone's

whims i don't know it's in ukrainian, it's just that it's not, it's not from ukrainian, it's not from ukrainian realities, that 's why it sounds so looking and not from ukrainian realities, but it looks so so , the question is that the institute those who watch are er, conditionally what has forever, we have forget it forever in this country, there are civilized institutions, european, or, if you want, civilized, institutions of the civilized world, if we go there, then we must build such institutions, and of course, we must not forget that state companies are the property of society, the property of the people, they are not the property of officials appointed by someone, and... and sometimes officials forget about this and begin to identify themselves as if with the owner of a state-owned company, and this is why supervisory boards are needed to insulate the company from e. such

negative possible impact, in the case of ukrenergo, the supervisory board performed this function for several years, and i really hope that after the situation with my dismissal, the new supervisory board that has already been created will be restored, and the team that remained at ukrenergo, which has already been three in winter, the power system survived in extremely difficult conditions. united with the european nervous system, did a lot to strengthen the defense, that this team will be allowed to work calmly, well, that is, what an interesting time it is now, well, again, we have to understand, there are acting duties, oleksiy brecht, whom you know, about whom you mentioned, and the work continues, i understand that the train is moving on the same, the

same track, not turning anywhere. asking what is the time for there to be an understanding, this person will begin to perform his duties without this prefix or without this prefix, whether they will still find some other person and whether this search for your information will continue, here it is important to understand, that a specialist will come, as for mr. brecht, it is clear that this is a person who has 25 years of experience in the energy field, and there are no questions here, he is one of the most experienced, most qualified energy workers in general in this... country, it is very difficult for me to even imagine someone with the level competences could be surpassed by oleksiy, i worked with him for many years, side by side, i can say this with absolute certainty, if we imagined that we were in norway, how the process should take place, and i had would be created a supervisory board consisting of seven members, four of whom are independent,

now there are no three at all, but ugh. four independent members must be elected to this supervisory board, after that the supervisory board conducts an open, public, transparent competition for the head of the company, not based on the criteria of his personal loyalty to someone, not based on the criteria of whether he is somewhere there, you know who he is with half drank vodka, or with whom he is friends, or who is his relative, and according to the criteria of professionalism, correct values ​​and... his, so to speak, or her ability to actually lead the company precisely in this moment in which she is, and we are, let me remind you, on the eve of a difficult winter, and based on the results of this competition, a manager, a new company manager, should be chosen, whether it will be oleksiy or not, whether oleksiy will even apply for this competition or not, these are questions that can only be asked after this new independent supervisory board will be created, and that's how... in

2020, i was elected as a leader, i was elected in a competition where there were 40 or 50 people, so there was a whole process that lasted several months, and i won this competition and was appointed in august exactly on the 20th year, i.e. four years ago, this is exactly the kind of competition that should be held this time, have you had cases when the president called you on a mobile phone, no, not on a mobile phone, but the phone should be the same? there is an official phone, but my communication with the president, as a rule, took place within the framework of some meetings, ugh, either on-site, or in the office of the president, or within the framework of rate meetings or other formats, but not through a mobile phone and not through the office phone of the special forces, well, to be honest , i doubt that these are the special forces. until

so actively used at the moment.