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they are all destroyed, except kyiv, they were thousands of years old, just think, 3 years ago you had a beautiful civilization, now most of the country is gone, so many people died, many people left for poland, hungary, other places, they never will not return, by the way, he said this literally a few days ago, and today he already announced on the air of the fox news channel: that i will definitely come to ukraine, it is a beautiful country, well, that is, he constantly contradicts himself, then she this whole country lies in ruins, so he is going to go to it, with what ol, this is related to trump's behavior, i will not define it, but he is constantly fluctuating, these are the fluctuations that he has from the fact that we have lost everything, everything is gone and... and until that this is a country for
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which we must fight, and we will fight, i will come to an agreement with putin, and i will come to an agreement with zelensky, and everything will work out for me. well, actually, he doesn't really waver, i wouldn't say he wavers, he formed his point of view a long time ago, he supports putin, quite frankly, he believes that america should cooperate with russia, at the expense of other countries, and this is his position, which has not changed since the 19th, well, the 16th. for sure, that is , he still does everything within the framework of this very story, and this rhetoric, well, listen, well, the usual rhetoric of a not very educated person, to whom someone ran up and said something, and he, he doesn’t read practically, that’s all they know, he only reads there tweets in ee in social networks, in his social networks, well, yes, yes, his tweets, and his tweets, yes, that is, i think that somewhere he was reading some nonsense, then someone else ran up to him, saying what? said some
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delusional, here are the pictures for you, he will look, yes, i said something wrong and come out, he says something else, but i am more surprised that he pretends that the war began only in the 22nd year, as if the 14th did not happen year, as if putin did not seize crimea, and when he says that under my presidency there would not have been a war, then under your presidency there was already a war, and you did not do anything, you did not liberate crimea, if you think that... you are wrong there, obama behaved and was too mushy, but what did you do? i did not see that trump has a weak position in because he was already the president, and he showed that he cannot do anything with putin, that he is not a strong president, so it is difficult for him to prove in these elections that he can do something with putin, and he is such a peace-loving such rhetoric.
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now produces, well, this is not peace-loving rhetoric, it is purely isolationist rhetoric, which in principle, well, in the states has always existed, and there were also some who believe that we live here on an island, we have an ocean on one side, and an ocean on the other , no one can attack us in particular, and therefore we do not need to go anywhere to interfere, it's always, well, let's say, it's been since the end of the axis, i don't know, well, the 19th century was definitely global. when america screwed up , it screwed up even more during the first world war, three years have come and in us too, after a full-scale war, almost three years have passed, it is already time to open a second front, well, actually, well, what, well, this is part of the american culture, it’s just that it ’s becoming more widespread somehow it's less, well , we have to understand what it is and of course we have to understand the dangers of us. let's look
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this is just an extreme version of this rhetoric, and about rhetoric, zelensky, while in the united states of america, stated that we should do it, that is, stop putin by november, we will try it on the battlefield with our heroic soldiers, but we understand that after november we will have to decide, and we hope that the power of the united states of america will be strong, we count on it, that is, the president of ukraine. still counts on the support of our western partners, including the americans, although well, judging by the statements that were made, that the main decisions are being transferred to germany by our partners. on october 12, there will be a four-way meeting of the leaders of four countries, the united states of america, great britain, france and germany, and there, by the way, this plan for the victory of ukraine will be discussed, and probably until then. this plan
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will appear in the western press, i have a feeling, every day we will see the full content of this document, or, let's say, with the comments of western experts, i am not sure that we are here quickly. let's get this plan victory, but the fact that the western press already has and they partially merged some points of this victory plan, because it is true, no matter how much i do not invite politicians and diplomats to the evening broadcasts, no one can explain to me at all what is in this plan victory, because this victory plan was obviously seen by two people, andriy yermak and volodymyr zelenskyi, because they are now in the united states, nothing, as always, something will come from the white house or from... from some other administration there, or from that same as trump, who probably has something there they transferred it, then they will fire it, everything doesn't work well with us, and it just flows from there, it doesn't work well with us, because the authorities don't trust journalists, they say that they don't need journalists and they can
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at all, there trusts, and that's why there are always some scandals as a result, because the wrong things were angry, friends, let me remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, today i have olga len and andriy yanitsky as guests. and during this broadcast, we conduct a poll, today we we ask you about this, will the united states of america continue to help ukraine in the event of trump's victory? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote by numbers, yes 0800 211 381 , no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote on... at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, another topic that develops in parallel and developed in russia, this is the adoption of a changed doctrine, nuclear doctrine, nuclear deterrence, they call it at the security council of the russian federation, putin announced
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the expansion of this very russian doctrine of nuclear deterrence, let's listen to what he said. added to the list of military threats for the neutralization of which nuclear deterrence measures are used. what else i would especially like to draw your attention to, in the updated version of the document, is aggression against russia by any non-nuclear state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear state is proposed to be considered as their joint attack on the russian federation. well , to be honest, i don't quite understand how the previous version of nuclear deterrence differs from the current one, because if it is written in their concept of nuclear deterrence, any troops that attack our territory,
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nuclear weapons can be used against them and against that country , then is there a difference in collaboration, this state is not nuclear, how are we with someone or not? if you say that you were attacked and your territorial integrity something threatens, well, if you are not going to shoot, as they say, do not take the gun out of the holster, well, the logic is a little different here, well, first of all, of course, this is the whole conversation, it is not only intended for an external audience, but also for an internal one, and this obsessive desire to tell that they are fighting, we are not fighting with ukraine, but with the entire nato bloc, and america is already on us. attacked, this is all an attempt to bring someone under this, well, who is putin in general, well, he is an ordinary murderer, who is used to the fact that he collected a folder of compromising materials, this folder pushed it, someone read it, got scared, said, oh my god, it's so terrible written here, that's what he does, he puts together some kind of
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folder and hopes that if we write there that it was an attack and you have already attacked us, then everyone will grab their heads and say, my god, what a horror, it turns out that we are already at war with russia, well, it’s not... it doesn’t work like that, well, but if we talk about how, how they see it for themselves, i think that they they follow the story that serhiy karaganov painted in his articles, who, of course, has been in a coma for a long time, but he loves to wave the nuclear weapons, and this nekta karaganov, he literally ran around for two years with the idea that the ladder of nuclear escalation has many steps. there are a dozen or so, and we have to go along it and scare the west, that is, they are now, consider it, so on the second step, that is, before that there must be some, but we prepared the nuclear forces to do there, then we prepared , look, this is the final preparation for
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nuclear tests, then we conducted simulated nuclear tests, then, and we did conduct tests, and then we conducted even more tests, and so on and so on, i.e. still there after these... before nuclear tests, at least on a new land, but after their... sarmatian blew up in a mine, it's problematic to do that president of poland andrzej duda believes that there is nothing fundamentally new in putin's words about the expansion of russian military doctrine, but the one who uses nuclear weapons first will bear all the responsibility. let's listen to what president duda said. there is nothing new in this. on the other hand, volodymyr putin also knows full well, as do his generals, that the one who... first uses nuclear weapons will be damned, they will never abdicate
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that responsibility if they use nuclear weapons, even in the slightest, never, the world will never will not forgive me, but duda did not say one more phrase here, because he said that the first one to use nuclear weapons will be damned, i would add the one who survives, but he said in the most to the least extent, i would i wanted... to return to putin's statement, why he actually made it now did, why did they make these changes, i think it is related to the visit of president zelenskyi to the states, because one of the topics that is being discussed is the provision of long-range missiles to ukraine that can reach even moscow, and we even see according to the opposition, so-called liberal russian media, which suddenly come out with materials, oh, how to save yourself from missile attacks, that is, when... ukraine was shelled, they did not come out with such materials, although they seemed to be on
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pro-ukrainian positions, but now actually you can see what positions they were in, because how only missile attacks threaten moscow, immediately some instructions on how to save the lives of civilians, they were not very interested in the lives of ukrainian civilians, but i digress, so if zelensky is now discussing this issue in the states, then of course putin is trying to spoil these. negotiations and thus gives a signal that, friends, if you launch these long-range missiles, then we will use nuclear weapons in response, and they hope to scare someone in the states in this way, unfortunately, the american press writes that we will allow that we did not receive, fortunately we have our own missile development, so we did not receive american missiles, well, nothing, ukrainian ones will arrive, fragments, traditionally fragments. well, i also think that, in fact, this is such a pass to trump's election campaign, already, if we
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talked about it, about the interrelationship of what is happening in general, it is precisely this that is included in trump's rhetoric that ukraine is drawing us into a nuclear war , and this is exactly what he scares in principle, so the average american, his voter, with the fact that there is a threat of nuclear war, and accordingly, if we do not support ukraine and russia seizes ukraine, well, then this threat. it won't be delusional, of course, but that's how it works, and this pass is just right for trump's election campaign to show that, you see, there's something that biden is doing so dangerous, he's giving another round of money and weapons, and at this time trump can tell you see, how dangerous all this is, there putin already said something like that, and they are preparing and probably everything will be terrible, well, i say again, first of all, well, it is a very long time, and trump promises to come to an agreement with him, and he does promise come to an agreement, well, that is... this is really also such, well, a little bit of such interference in the election campaign, well, actually, how can they sell
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the surrender of ukraine to their own population, and to trump, just like that, just say, explain that this is how we did not help our an ally in eastern europe, which has been for the united states for many years and was actually an outpost of western values ​​in this region, we took it for him and we surrendered it, because we saved the world from nuclear. wars, we saved the world, that's a good fix, because what about the states, with it didn't work out that way in afghanistan, yes, that is, why they abandoned their allies in afghanistan, it is not clear why ukraine, well, here you can come up with some kind of story, well, let's follow how this whole topic with nuclear weapons will develop, because well, really, in 2.5 years, we have already heard a lot about many things, both from medvedev and from other avatars there. of the kremlin about what will happen and will happen if missiles fall on the crimean
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peninsula, what will happen if these missiles fall on the territory of the russian federation, russia has already tested all the weapons that were in it is being hit in ukraine with absolutely all types of weapons, absolutely without understanding whether it is a civilian city or a non-civilian city, whether it is hitting peaceful people or objects. they don't care about critical infrastructure, that's why, in principle, the only argument they have left is nuclear weapons, well, the american british press writes that in 2025... there may be elections, elections, presidential elections in ukraine, and what the economist writes. against the background of a drop in his ratings, the president of ukraine is allegedly considering the possibility of holding presidential elections in the 25th year, with the help of which zelensky wants to strengthen his power. in this text, there are many references to anonymous sources from various headquarters,
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from various politicians, who say that the process has already started. i think that politicians can hardly stop thinking about elections, because it is clear that elections shape the political system in ukraine, the president is elected, we have a democracy, a democratically elected president, a democratically elected parliament, a government democratically formed by the parliament, that is, all procedures are followed , but ulyu, is it even possible that literally for year... in the event that the situation is normalized, it can be normalized only by some kind of truce or some kind of temporary peace, probably between ukraine and russia, that there will be presidential elections in ukraine? well, i would say that in fact this team, since the 22nd year, has been trying to hold some kind of election and is constantly
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preparing for them, and in fact, because of this, we have so many failures of some kind. and military politicians, and in international politics, precisely because too many are preparing for the elections, but if we turn to realism, yes, yes, i i think that elections can actually be held, moreover, i will tell you, even worse, they can be held when there is no truce, when there is no freeze, all this can also be held and you can come up with some kind of semi-electronic forms voting, something else. that is, there are a lot of options, what can be done, whether these elections will be legitimate, come on, well, that is another question, yes, because many people are outside ukraine, many territories are occupied, it is not clear what the voter lists are, but if there are strong desires, moreover , if it will be a burning desire not only of the president, but it will also be such and such an
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internal, let's say, consensus of the political elites, everyone will close their eyes in unison to the fact that these are some very strange elections. well, and also, if a number of our allies will also see that the elections are a way, for example, to restart our political system and restart some kind of, you know, internal trust in the authorities, then yes, then it will be held, and well, unfortunately , we can't imagine with you now in what form, because again it depends on those circumstances that will be there, but it is possible, well , maybe, i thought that if... this is how technology is developing very strongly in our country, and the action is used, including for the authorization of any client, that is, it is possible through an action through an electronic signature to confirm your identity, and then you mentioned that there are a lot of people abroad, but why can't they vote for one or another candidate because of the act.
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andriy, it is possible, we see that due to the action today, train tickets are being sold and even. you can buy tickets to the theater through action, that is, the technology is common and widespread, and many ukrainians have already learned to use it. there is a question about what to do with people who do not have smartphones, because there are still elderly people who still use push-button phones, and there are people who fundamentally do not use their smartphones because they fear the leakage of personal data, but this people can be offered some alternative form, the traditional form of voting. therefore, technologically, i think that it is already possible to hold elections, moreover, there are such questions, it seems to me, for example, how the military will vote, this question was constantly raised here, because the military on the front line, they very often cannot vote outside the zone, but voting in
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many countries is stretched to the bottom, and here too they can. rotations can make the time for voting and the counting of votes, it's another matter what this vote will show us, and i talked to one politician who says: you know, we are not really preparing for the elections, because if there is some kind of truce i, then the election campaign will be very short, it is unrealistic to invest money in the development of one's own brand throughout the country, therefore... next - it will be a choice of such elections of such coalitions, that is, a coalition that is pro-presidential and a coalition that is in opposition to the president, which will be formed? of popular people, because what the president's office is doing is trying to make popular people, even people who are in the power system,
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speak less in public, we see that budanov gives fewer interviews, we see that kim is not in the media, that is , there remains only one voice policy, and we know whose this one, by the way, according to the american national democratic institute, the trust of ukrainians in... decreased significantly after the jump at the beginning of the full-scale aggression of the russian federation, if in may 23rd trust in the president was 80%, then as of may of this year it stabilized at the level of 45%. it is worth noting that in december 21, this trust was only 18%, well, that's what we draw from this, we really need to hold quick elections, because so far it is 45. well, yes, but it is 18%, it just then when zelensky accused, by the way, rinat akhmetov of preparing a coup d'état, because the media owned by rinat leonidovych, well
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, that's enough, scrupulously, well, first of all , these media are no longer there, and secondly, well, the mass of the people has changed a little in general again well , abroad and sometimes in such places that they don’t see the media, they see youtube, they see social networks, that is... itself, itself, the company itself will technologically pass a little on other platforms, no, well, the president’s office must admit, learned to control the information sphere quite effectively, this marathon, the only one that exists now, which, we saw zelensky's interview, he said that they say what they want there, we have no influence on it at all, well, it was a little, well, how funny it is read, maybe they don't report to the president, well, yes, but influence, influence is clear, there is coordination. of content in the marathon, yes, the marathon still has coverage, maybe not as much as they would like, but still there are percentages, well,
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they have a share of 10%, and this is the largest share among news channels now, it is not because they are successful, and because they created such conditions, and the second telegram channels, we still know that there are claims in france against pavel dorov, who is the founder of telegram, there are already statements from the special services, by the way, is that not why there are rumors that bodanova it must be removed, because he may have spoken out against the telegram, but it turns out that the telegram channels are dangerous and that the state authorities continue to inform the population via telegram, well, agree that informing the population via telegram is fine, it’s still nothing, there rather when the internal communication via telegram when anonymous telegram channels that are connected, connected to the authorities. they misinform , including the population, not only simply, i think you know more here, there is another danger of all these stories, because well, in any case, as i say once again, there will not be
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a normal voter register, because it is impossible to create, there will not be it is clear who votes and how, and on the one hand there is the possibility of manipulation, of course, the question of observers, you and i, we know that in ordinary elections there are observers, there are journalists, there is a re-counting of votes, the public. the public can monitor it, and as in the case of action, someone in the public can access like this raw code and see if these people actually voted, if these votes actually counted, i think that's the question, and the second question, well, we still don't know, again, because the mass of the people is not in ukraine, they may be somewhere even in russia, for example, and how will these people vote? you know this, a leap into such an unknown. colleagues, in the occupied territories , everyone is establishing friends of hope under the control of these fighters i will tell our viewers that we
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are currently considering the hypothetical possibility of an election in 2025, and what we are talking about now is a warning to those who think that such an election could happen, or that such an election could be held, and that they will go through the main thing honestly, and... transparently, because we are a democratic state, i repeat once again, we are not russia and we are not the countries of central asia, that is, we are a democratic state that grew up on three maidans, a whole generation grew up, and therefore no one will allow anyone to falsify, no one will allow anyone to manipulate the votes of ukrainians, because yanukovych tried to do it in 2004, he did not succeed and... in the 10th there are also questions about the transparency of what happened in the elections, but we all understand that democracy must move forward
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in ukraine and... if there is indeed a suspension of hostilities, then obviously the question of elections in ukraine will arise, and we will definitely return to this in our next programs, unfortunately, the time of our program is coming to an end olga len, andriy dinitskyi were guests of today's program, thank you colleagues, and i would like to remind you that throughout our broadcast we conducted a survey, we asked you today whether the united states of america will continue to help ukraine in the event of trump's victory. 51%. so, friends, this was a verdict program conducted by serhiy rudenko, thank you all for your attention, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your
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