billions a year, but what can you do, the president of ukraine came with a position that is more realistic in my opinion, but which is not a joint plan, this is the plan of the ukrainian president, as he saw it, by the way, it is not known whether this is ukraine's plan, because no one in ukraine has this the plan was not shown, not in the parliament, nor in the expert environment, so while it has not yet become a joint plan, it should then become some kind of plan together with partners, and the ukrainian parliament, so far it is so, two important points from what you said: first as to what the plan is expected to see in the united states, earlier only there trump was accused of saying that he would be ready to end the war, as he himself says, and it is possible that there will be some territorial concessions, now what you say, it looks like the administration in the united states is doing well in fact , many people who came to ukraine were waiting for the fact that ukraine would be ready to make some concessions for the sake of peace.

americans from previous high positions in the country, who are part of the white house and congress, they probed the soil before the arrival of volodymyr zelenskyi, is it possible to influence him and how, so that he gets rid of his, well, if, demands, let’s say, or often they think that he is very demanding in terms of form, well, yes, maybe it is, he has such a style, and this, this not a position of the white house officially, this is the position of a number of serious people who analyze the situation and who offer the white house to the president of the united states different solutions, the only problem is that they propose it in the interests of the national security of the united states, and we ukrainians, we, well, the president of ukraine must offer what is in the national interest of ukraine, our positions coincide in many ways now, even strategic interests.

for the first time, the usa and ukraine are so close, but not in detailed issues, there are certain thoughts here, that is, i think that no one will officially make such proposals, everyone expects that a decision will be made in the usa, they expect that ukraine will make a decision, well, i mean joseph biden, kamala hares, by the way, donald trump, on the other hand, says that he will decide himself, that is, you see, a completely different approach, in other countries there are also different approaches, that is, i think. to the white house, particularly this administration will not be the first to announce, they will wait for president zelenskyi's announcement. thank you very much for joining. thanks for your analysis. valery chaly, chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states in 2015-2019. well, when analyzing zelenskyi's visit to the united states, it is worth remembering the main goal of the visit, which we already discussed today, which is that kyiv hopes that both parties, democrats and republicans, will agree on the plan.

ukraine's victory in the war with russia, in fact it is not known for certain what the points of this plan are, there are only approximate ideas, and we get from the western media how there is armed support for ukraine or political pressure on russia, but to what extent the united states is generally ready to accept this plan, and my colleague rostoslav khotin asked baylor university political science professor serhiy kudelya on the state situation podcast. as for volodymyr zelensky's victory plan, which he is presenting in the united states, what is known about it. little was known, by the way, he was preparing in complete secrecy, in secrecy, complete, and here it is as if it provides for active supplies of weapons and permission to strike deep into the territory of russia with western weapons, as if it is also important to gain a foothold in kurshchyna in the russian federation, as if security guarantees and even an invitation to ukraine to nato, membership is not fast, but the invitation is quick, investments in the ukrainian defense industry, expanding the production of drones and missiles, sanctions against russia. their strengthening, international isolation

of russia, work with the global south, post-war reconstruction of ukraine as well and financial assistance in this, and here such a good salesman as volodymyr zelensky, according to the words of donald trump, how to sell this plan not to politicians, not to biden, not to garis, well, not to trump, as he wanted, but how to sell it to the average american voter, as to sell this plan to the average american by the ukrainian president. well, the very statement that you quoted donald trump about the salesman, that was not a compliment really from donald trump, because the emphasis of the republicans is that this money is being wasted, that america should sharply reduce the number of expenses, and in an interview with the new yorker, volodymyr zelensky quite convincingly explained that ukraine is somehow protecting. the united states from a possible

direct confrontation with the russian federation, and if the united states allows ukraine to lose this war, will allow russia to seize and obtain ukrainian. territory, then poland may be next, in poland, american soldiers will already be fighting directly with the russian army. this position, it seems to me, resonates with some voters in the united states states, but for most republicans it's a pretty far-fetched prospect, meaning it's something they think is unlikely in the near future, and therefore more important to... they have questions about where the money is going today and tomorrow, and donald trump and the republicans are focusing on this very issue. therefore, when we hear ideas that ukraine should become a member of nato, or receive security guarantees, it seems to me that some republicans will oppose

these ideas precisely because it would require new additional costs on the part of the united states and especially the willingness to make these costs in the future. if new threats to the security of ukraine will be created, therefore, if we talk about whether zelensky can sell this plan, he can to part of the american society, but many other americans are still guided by completely different motives. and president zelensky, although he met with president biden in the general cabinet, but he did not get what he wanted, that is, he will return from america without permission to use western missiles long range for strikes deep into russia. the influential british newspaper the times writes about it. the publication notes that... asked president biden and vice president kugarit to lift restrictions on the use of stormshadow and atakam missiles for strikes on russian military targets located deep inside russia. however, this did not happen. the new york times, in turn, notes in the article that the intelligence of the united states believes that in the case of

granting permission to ukraine to hit western missiles deep into the russian federation, the kremlin can probably respond with more force. among the possible scenarios described by the intelligence, it is about intensifying arson and sabotage. targeting targets in europe, as well as potentially lethal attacks on military bases in the united states and europe. but british foreign minister david lammy expects that the decision to lift restrictions on the use of western long-range weapons for ukraine will be made before the beginning of winter. he stated this in response to questions from correspondents voice of america and maria zolkina, the head of the regional security and conflict research department of the democratic initiative foundation named after lyk kucher, joins our broadcast. and a researcher at the london school of economics and political science. i congratulate you. i congratulate you. thank you for joining. ms. maria, actually, let's start with whether, at the beginning of winter, there will be a decision to lift restrictions on the use of western long-range missiles for strikes deep into the russian federation. such prospects in general? i

i believe that despite the fact that we are moving much slower in this matter than ukraine would like. this decision will be made anyway. and here ukraine is on hand. the fact that the resistance and resistance of the united states itself is not completely supported by ukraine's partners in europe, in particular in great britain, i.e. if great britain had at least such tacit consent on the part of the united states and less strong resistance from washington itself, then great britain would have already made this decision, and i hope that it is the british who are actually in this discussion politically, well, they will push the issue, i don’t see... that ukraine will be given such permission without any restrictions, most likely there will be some kind of compromise, which, by the way, the president’s team proposed, that there will be a list of targets that can be hit, let’s say so , and i believe that to evaluate the effectiveness of this visit is precisely in

the question of whether we managed to bring the long-range missiles closer to the territory of russia, we will see the results in this aspect in a few weeks, in particular after the soon already quick meeting of the leaders, the leaders of key partner countries, which will take place in the next few days in europe. october 14, if i am not mistaken, is an earlier date, and the american president will also be present at it, but now the media, with reference to intelligence, are writing that russia, in response to the use of long-range missiles, may almost go deep into its territory strikes on american bases, how serious a risk it is. which is so often talked about in the west, it is often said about it, but not in all capitals and not in all societies exactly such a strong fear and consider it the main obstacle, but again, i would name two capitals in which russia plays a similar game with this

intimidation that if you cross another red line there, which is actually a very ephemeral red line, then we will be there, that same signals are sent. through certain channels, because there is communication all the same, it is not only intelligence, it is not only showers, and washington and berlin, these are the two capitals, react to this to a greater extent. among ukrainian partners who really try to avoid any at all costs a clash in a hybrid format, or rather a conventional one, between the links between, well, not between nato countries, between the western world and the russian federation, but not everyone shares this, and for example, both france, in particular macron directly, and great britain, they are much more ambitious and bold in this matter, and they, i think... that it is they who will quietly sharpen from within this

western alliance this resistance that is taking place, because russia is playing on what is a weak point in the political position of the united states and nato in general, and this one, and so far this is russia it is possible, and in the context of whether or not the restrictions will be lifted, in russia there is talk again about nuclear weapons and about them. use, it seems that everyone is no longer afraid of it, actually, but this risk and this fear still remain, but look, vladimir putin proposed to change russia's nuclear doctrine, in particular, he stated that russia will consider the possibility of using nuclear weapons in the event of drone attacks, aircraft and non-nuclear weapons, and there is a survey of residents of the russian capital, journalists asked them how they feel about russia's nuclear threats, and now i suggest listening to what they answered, and then i will return it. i'm a little scared

that this whole conflict is going on and i'm scared of what it could lead to, the threat of nuclear weapons is always bad, we don't need another caribbean crisis. europeans maybe a little bit of doctrine will fill these arrogant europeans, this is no joke. i believe that the previous doctrine was too much. smeared, not that, not that, but if, but let, then, maybe, but this doctrine does not yet say that we will be the first to apply it, i i think that most likely we will wait for big victims, a million, maybe even more, and only then, i think, russia will respond. i believe that if we already live here in our country, then we should trust our leadership, and it cannot be otherwise, if the leadership thinks so, then so be it. many people talk about it, called ending with what? negotiations, in any case, and the fact that there is an escalation now,

yes, of course, it is worrying, my brother died there, it will still make you think, which ukraine, after all, they will make our boys, who are called ukraine and america, think, they will also make them think, and first of all, europe will now be waiting for us on their knees, because everyone has already crossed the red lines and they think that they can be without... turned page, which no one pays any serious attention to anymore, they still pay attention, but i have to say that the change in the nuclear doctrine, which putin announced the other day, was not necessary for russia to have, according to russian law, the right to use nuclear weapons , because and by... in in its previous format, the doctrine provided that as soon as there is a threat to the territorial integrity and existence of the russian federation,

russia can use tactical nuclear weapons accordingly. we see that the course operation did not lead to any drastic changes in the position of the russian federation, nor did nuclear blackmail become a reality, because the issue here is not in russian legislation, the issue is that even those who stand behind russia, as its political ... partner, for example, china, india, countries that are accurate are trying to balance, and how china, for example, helps russia, they strongly expressed their position even a year and a half ago, in response to the first wave of nuclear blackmail, so this story with the latest changes to the nuclear doctrine is exclusive to the western world and in particular to those countries , where this nuclear blackmail is a very sensitive topic, and at the end of the broadcast i will have a question related to... the meeting between zelenskyi and trump, this is the main topic of the broadcast, with which we actually start today, what are your

expectations in general, what might be the results of these negotiations and what they can have an impact on, this meeting between zelenskyi and trump, here we are now seeing the footage that the agencies have already published before the conversation itself, it is good that this meeting is taking place in principle, i think it is against the background of the current visit and the scandal , which was raised in the united states, is a good result in itself. and the second point, uh, ukraine in this way, i hope, will reduce the degree of tension, uh, and he will be able to offer president zelensky to trump. if he is elected president, at least brothers taking into account the position of ukraine itself, because without personal contacts, one should also pay attention to the peculiarities of the political behavior of both zelensky and trump, it seems to me that they are similar in that for them personal contacts and personal conversations have such a special meaning, more than even institutions

and such classic diplomatic negotiations, so let's hope that at... the level of tension will decrease a little, but we should not expect that our relations with the republicans against the background of the election campaign will be absolutely others after one meeting with their candidate. i thank you very much for joining. maria zolkina, head of the regional security and conflict research department of the imenilka democratic initiative foundation, as well as a researcher at the london school of economics and political sciences, was in freedom live. well, for today we have everything, i comment. what you saw and share this video with your friends, we will meet you in the next broadcasts and subscribe to the pages of radio liberty. have a peaceful weekend. in september, there are discounts on perveks. 20% in pharmacies plantain, bam yes

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mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopcrime ua. congratulations, the voice of america is on the air in ukrainian and our program time time. my name is ostap yarysh. volodymyr zelenskyi met with donald trump and kamela harris and presented his victory plan to both candidates. if the meeting with the vice president was confirmed ahead of time, whether zelenskyi would meet with trump until the end remained in question. we are talking about the results of these conversations and the results of the visit of the ukrainian delegation to the usa today on the air. let's start with our correspondent. new york by iryna solomka, who was at the meeting between zelenskyi and trump. irina, i congratulate you. so what did we hear from this meeting? you were there today in person, how did donald trump react to

the presented. does he have a plan for zelensky's victory? greetings ostap, yes, unfortunately, journalists did not have, a wide circle of journalists, did not have the opportunity to communicate with the presidents already after the meeting, such a basic communication, their opening words and a few questions, they were there before the meeting, but our colleagues from american, that is, companies sky news, they are fox news, they still had the opportunity to talk to both presidents, that's it donald trump, he didn't... say anything about the victory plan, but the word fair appeared in his rhetoric after this conversation, and he basically said that i, that is, he, i learned a lot and from after this meeting with president, my position hasn't changed, we want it to end and end fairly, basically before that donald trump, talking about how the war should end, always said that it should end

quickly first of all, and now it works for the first time. says that it still has happen, it has to be a fair peace, meaning he also said if i win, yes, then we will have, we will have a fair and quick deal, and he said yes, that means we want to have a fair deal for everybody, so that's it is very important that this story appeared in his rhetoric, because until then president zelenskyi has been on all platforms as much as possible during this week, being here at the un and in new york and, accordingly, in washington, i emphasize to you that only a fair peace... is important for ukraine that still concerns the results that we saw that were announced by president zelensky, he announced them on his account on the x network, he called the meeting with donald trump very meaningful, he said that i presented him with a victory plan, said that they discussed in detail the situation in ukraine and, accordingly, the consequences of the war for ukraine and the ukrainian people. he also said that, accordingly, we have a common view that the war in ukraine must be stopped, and putin cannot win,

ukrainians must win. stop irina, we had the opportunity to ask donald trump and volodymyr zelensky a question at a press conference before their conversation, did trump answer whether he wants to see ukraine win? do you know stape, journalists tried to ask him this question. because, as far as we know, this is the first time this question has come to him in such a tone during a debate, right? that is, but, unfortunately,... already in today's format, this question was already heard when journalists were asked to leave the hall, so obviously donald trump already either he did not hear it or the conditions were already wrong, that is, today we did not hear the answer to this question again, but apparently simply because donald trump did not hear it, but i will remind you, in general, during my time, that is, communication with journalists , he emphasized again and again that the war must stop in ukraine, that he says that the president is there, respectively, and ukraine is going through hell, and of course, that is, there is no such thing.

the war must end as soon as possible. ostape iryna, in what atmosphere did this meeting take place? after all, before that we remember that during the week at his rallies, donald trump spared no criticism of the ukrainian president. has that dynamic changed in any way today? yes, ostap, i absolutely agree with you, there was intrigue all week long, and whether donald trump will meet with volodymyr zelensky, respectively. even yesterday at lunchtime, journalists were procensed. they knew, and it was in principle, that is, president zelensky had to go to ukraine yesterday, so when the information appeared that he was staying, then already in the evening donald trump announced on his that is, on social platforms that he is still meeting with the president, everyone was so looking forward to this meeting, so when the presidents came in, that is, when presidential candidate donald trump and president zelenskyi came to the journalists, it was clear that they are, in principle, in such a constructive

way in such a mood, because in... zelensky thanked, for example, donald trump very much for the fact that he still has this meeting, has the opportunity to convey the position of the ukrainian people and, accordingly, his plan for victory. donald trump, in turn, also thanked president zelensky for the fact that when donald trump was impeached in 2019 for the fact that he was accused of using president zelensky to his advantage in the pre-election campaign, he tried to use president zelensky as well for your own benefit. election campaign, and he then said, donald trump, said that president zelensky said that nothing, that donald trump did nothing wrong, and accordingly, that put an end to all these stories, according to donald trump, therefore, he very actively thanked president zelensky several times, but there were no such small jokes, you can now hear and see how the two presidents communicated. we have a very good relationship and i also have a very good relationship.