dnipro, and skurakhovo is a direct road going towards zaporozhye, they repeat exactly the maneuvers in the winter of 43, when the red army tried to dislodge the german troops from these directions, so they do not invent anything new, they always repeat those operations , but they add certain modern nuances, as regards the situation at the front in general, well, the question is that... when there are not enough people, as for the reserves, when people do not receive enough training, then it is too difficult to fight, and if at one time the leader of our country had listened to commander-in-chief zaluzhnyi, and in october of last year the issue of conscription was raised and these people were called up, then during this time it was possible to prepare them in sufficient quality and in the required number, at that time they don't see

necessary, but how can a person without any military education, without having served a single day in the army, draw such conclusions, well , realistically, the environment that surrounds our president, unfortunately, does not say what is necessary, not what there is realism, but it says that what the president wants to hear, and this is our greatest trouble, that instead of the truth, we are trying to both ourselves and our own people directly, that we are scalding ourselves in a warm bath, the time of... uncomfortable questions, why someone does not fulfill certain duties, respectively , as prescribed by the constitution and other laws of ukraine, this is the number one task, because if we continue to lull ourselves into warming ourselves, then there will be much more disappointments, and they will be more tragic for our country under the current conditions, mr. general, what... variants of the government's decisions can

save the situation and solve the problem , including the quality of those people who are preparing for the front and to fight against the russians? any businessman, and managing the country is also, let's say, a business for certain people, but meanwhile, time, people and money, we don't have that much time, but it's all that... people, it's quality training people even before the moment when they joined the ranks of the armed forces, in the right amount, in the right quality. at us, on it's a pity, so far people are being trained in insufficient quantity and quality, and in the first place, this issue does not even concern the armed forces, it is a task for the state to train in huge numbers, given ukraine's capabilities, we can train much more, train qualitatively, why at the state level it is not organized as far as money is concerned, money comes first. the economy,

the economy, in accordance with the law on mobilization, mobilization training, must be transferred to functioning in wartime conditions, which means that we have a huge number of enterprises, who still have not received tasks from the mobilization plan, because this plan has not been worked out by the verkhovna rada, not adopted by the verkhovna rada, not approved by the president and not worked out directly by the cabinet of ministers in the first place, again a puncture in the non-implementation of the existing law, that's it... that's all very simple: the economy will work, the needs of the armed forces will be provided, the needs of the armed forces will be provided, we will be able to fight qualitatively, using technical capabilities and save human lives. mr. general, you mentioned about production, about the economy, which should also work for the armed forces, umyerov rustem umyerov, the minister of defense of ukraine stated that in 2020 the 24th ukrainian share of ammunition on

the front is 41%, and what the minister of defense says, today every second ammunition on the front of ukrainian production, if in 2023 the ukrainian share of ammunition was 18%, then in the 24th it increased to 41%. thank you to the ministry of strategy and industry team for constructive cooperation. on more than one occasion, mr. general, you talked about what actually happened on the air of our tv channel these successes that are now, well, they are insufficient, and these successes should have been back in 2019, when defense orders were approved, or not approved, when zelensky came to power, and when it was really necessary to prepare for war, as you but in spite of everything, do you now evaluate this dynamic?

is it sufficient or insufficient, or just well, it's one thing to start making ammunition from 0% to 40%, relatively speaking, and another when and... it's about from 40% there to 90%, the difference is in the numbers and in of ammunition which are produced, well, let me disappoint you and just give you the real numbers, we heard about 40%, by the way, yesterday i spoke with some military personnel from the front, and they are very complaining about the quality of ukrainian ammunition, especially as regards mortars ammunition, he says, god forbid that at least out of ten those that fly, god forbid that five work. that's the whole answer for you, next question: 40% of the total need for ammunition? unfortunately, i cannot now state on the air the real effectiveness of the ammunition that we use during days, but i will just give you a simple example, which is not a secret: we

hope that the americans produced 40,000 shells for ukraine in the month of august. 40,000 shells per month is four days, relatively speaking, of active combat. actions our share, you said, is 40%. this is, er, somewhere at the level of, well, let's raise it, let it be 20,000. and besides, it's another plus two days. and besides, how many days do we get? six days of active hostilities during the month. ask yourself the questions, do we produce them in the right amount or not? and growth from zero, yes, if there was zero, and now 40 shells. then this is an increase of 40%, but in reality, it is completely different, and the fact that the front simply requires shells of various calibers of 120, 105, 107, 122, 155, and

they require these shells, but they are not available, therefore to be happy that there is a lot there, you know, it's like looking at a glass, some say it's half empty, others say it's... half full, so everyone has their own view, i'm like a scout with a certain experience service in the armed forces, more than a dozen years, i look more cynically at such things, because i was taught to look at things realistically and not to harden myself and my subordinates to heating, well, i wanted to ask you about the warm bath, because denys shmyhal also boasts that it has tripled this year arms production, he said during we will also listen to the prime minister of ukraine at a recent press conference. it should be emphasized that in 2023, the production of weapons in ukraine increased three times, and in the first 8 months of this year, we increased production by another two times from

23rd year, that is, we are progressing. drone production continues to grow. we have created a market for drones, opening up opportunities for business, for... for enterprises, in addition to this, this year we have paid attention and created a market for arms for drones, actually ammunition, respectively, one plus million drones have been contracted already this year, that is, over 1 million , our own production of projectiles is increasing, not only drone ammunition, but also we are working on the production of our own artillery ammunition, the most scarce position, which we are looking for together with our partners all over the world, well, the tears are getting in the way of listening, well, we already, well, let's go back once again, if we compare from zero, then there is growth, but if we compare that it was not done in the 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd years, then the question of why it was not done before is

the first, second, issue of drones, and now the question is not only about the number of drones, but about the quality of operator training, please tell me , er, on the bases of our higher educational institutions of a civilian profile, and what number additional training courses for various military specialties are open, you will be surprised what is not open. i will give you an example of the enemy, in the 22nd year they have 50 higher education civilians, they opened additional training courses, they really prepared for war and really paid attention to it, we talk about the number, but for some reason we completely forget about the how. and if mr. shmigal would say how many drones that are produced fly to the target, and why they do not fly, and what is the fault, then the numbers would be completely different, we are putting ourselves in a warm bath again, because the guys who return from the front say completely different

things, and believe me, having known and fought with them since the 14th year, i trust and understand them much more , what the front needs more, what started to move well, but i will name a huge number of enterprises. which are not yet involved in the production of products of military importance, mr. general, you have extensive experience in serving in the armed forces of ukraine and as a head of position. were also, the last week or the last for several weeks in social networks, and not only in social networks, the topic of the possible dismissal of general budanov from the position of the head of the main department of the ministry of intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, whether there are reasons for personnel rotations in gur and what they can be related to, if they really will, well, actually they are banal reasons. just as banal were those concerning general zaluzhnyi, just as

general budanov became too popular on certain information resources, and this, let's say yes, it annoys certain leaders in the hills of pechersk, and they are very nervous that this may become, shall we say, a certain competitor for the possible election that they are drawing in their heads, saying that they are not preparing for it, but in the meantime there is a lot of action their... shows that they still have certain views about elections, and there are always flaws in any system, just as if you open the intelligence act and see what the central intelligence agency is responsible for and what it must do, then a huge number of supporters will appear to general budanov questions, that's why everything is very simple here, if you need flaws, you don't need to look for them, we open the governing documents, it is clear that general budanov is possible... and does not dream of a political career and does not think about presidential ambitions or ambitions

to create a party, although, as sociologists told me, there are closed polls where it is said that both budanov and zaluzhny can be, can have their own parliamentary factions, well, respectively, political parties, and zaluzhny is generally the number one contender after zelensky for the position of the president of ukraine, i i don't know, do you communicate with zulzhuj, or at all? does he have any political ambitions? well, i’m keeping this question for now, let’s say as an affair for the future, i’ll just give you an example of how the government is increasingly raising the issue of sabotage on the russian gas and oil pipelines in the baltic sea in the information space, and how does it seem that the industrious knew about it , but for some reason the president did not know, and precisely... just when the question is raised about the upcoming elections, why do these facts suddenly appear, these

facts were not known back in 2022 well-known, for some reason they were silent about them at the time, to whom it is beneficial to now raise the question in the information space against the scumbag, especially with regard to the western mass media, to raise the question that it was he who did these things, well, really, it is beneficial to ukraine , it is definitely not beneficial for ukraine, but it is beneficial for those who... worry about competition in possible races, that is, that is, all the talk about the fact that zaluzhny knew, and zelenskyi did not know about this undermining, whether there were this, was this undermining ukrainian, ukrainian special operation or not, but that's it it fits into the context of the political context, you know, what about the detonations, if there were enough and much more such detonations, i would be happy, and i would not even ask... the question of exactly who did it, see how clearly and sufficiently

the representatives of one of the best intelligence structures of the massad in israel work professionally, so they never say that they were there, they were not there, they do not say wrong, no no, this is the real classic work of intelligence officers, our intelligence officers often do pr on certain simple things , because it is so beautiful, and they don’t do powerful, serious things, well, from my point of view, maybe then the gur would have to... say, but no, we carried out a much more powerful sabotage on some oil pipeline there or somewhere else, for some reason we didn’t hear it , thank god that they did not hear, but this must be done constantly, the more efficiently and systematically we destroy the ability of russia to trade in oil, gas and others, the less money they will make, we have to go off the air, thank you for an interesting conversation, it was a general serhiy kryvonos, friends, throughout the entire broadcast we are conducting poll. let's look at the interim results of the survey, whether the united states of america will continue to help ukraine in the event of

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as we ask our viewers what they think, whether the united states of america will continue to help ukraine if trump wins. let's do it in blitz format survey, we will answer this question. olga well, i think that the first thing that trump will do is, of course, try to minimize this assistance. in general, to completely reject it, because it is part of his election campaign, maybe in a year something will change there, as always they will make a bunch of mistakes, and then something will begin to recover little by little, but somehow i have this impression of both trump's position and from what course of action he chooses now. andriy, well, even today we have streams, various funds from american budgets, including through the same usite, for example, and the employees of these funds say that now the funding has actually frozen, that is, the employees are waiting

for the results of the elections and after that it will be clear whether there will be new money or not for new technical assistance projects for ukraine , i think that the same applies to all other projects, including military aid, they will not disappear completely. but can really be minimized. it is interesting that during the current american tour of zelensky, trump, the candidate of the republican party, well simply ran into the president of ukraine, roughly speaking, before meeting with him, he stated at a pre-election rally in north carolina that zelensky was attacking him and... criticized the president of ukraine, for that, let's listen to what donald trump said. the president of ukraine is in our country, and

he makes dirty little attacks on your beloved president, me. but look at the war going on in ukraine right now. this would never have happened if i had been president, there would not even have been a need for a settlement. would not have happened full stop, russia would not have attacked, i talked about it a lot with putin, well colleagues, trump is playing the ukrainian card again, and it already happened, as leonid kuchma said, it already happened with zelensky, but then it didn’t work, because what, what then trump wanted, trump wanted zelensky to revive the case against his then- rival joseph baden, who then won the election and revived the case against. the son of joseph biden hunter, who was in burism, in the company, in the supervisory board, which worked on the territory of ukraine. now it's trump again says that president zelenskyy

is behaving wrongly, doing something wrong towards me, well, can it be considered personal, or is ukraine finally a significant factor in american politics and even more so in the election campaign in the united states of america ulha. i think both, well , first of all, he really has some kind of personal injury regarding ukraine, regarding zelenskyi, because he probably really expected to knock out zelenskyi with something or something at the beginning of the term of office, which zelenskyi is in the 19th year, well there, as you know nothing worked out, and this obviously greatly complicated the further personal relationship between zelenskyi and trump, and obviously, it has an effect now, of course, but in addition to that, well... there is also trump's personal attitude towards ukraine in general, which is most likely formed by his environment, and his admiration for putin,

and his, perhaps, some such personal authoritarian tendencies, and thirdly, in the end, ukraine turned out to be really important for the general election campaign in the united states, and it is not surprising that it was trump who made ukraine so important for the election campaign campaign in the united states, because he pulled it off, he built literally his entire election campaign on one thesis, that as soon as i become president, i will force ukraine to capitulate, well, let's call it the correct way it sounds, and the second thing is that i i will not give aid to ukraine, because it is, well , we don't need to spend money on ukraine, he made it the main thing in his election campaign, accordingly now. we have a very interesting situation in the united states because this has become a major election issue that, to things were not painted right at the beginning of the election

campaign, because it was expected that there would be a migra. the issue of the mexican border there, the issue of anything, but ukraine seems to be talked about less, no, now it has become the main issue, moreover, i think that we now have such a very surprising situation, when the upcoming elections will essentially become a referendum in the united states, regarding support, regarding support for ukraine, in the literal sense of the word, we will simply see if the people want it. of the united states to support ukraine, and depending on this, either trump or kamala harris will win. well, because everything is very obvious there. and again, depending on that, we will see everything, everything else, how the policy of the united states towards ukraine will be built. well, maybe, andrii, this is precisely the golden time for ukraine, well, relatively speaking, when you can work with headquarters, with two headquarters, without

choosing one. as it sometimes happened in ukrainian politics, and talking with one candidate for the presidency and with another, and showing one candidate for the presidency, the plan victory and others, will we have enough strength and skill not to slip into the one-party state of the united states of america, because trump, when he talked about zelensky, that he went to a factory in pennsylvania, that he plays along with the democrats, went to biden's hometown and that it's not... oksana markarova is really to blame for everything and the republicans demanded her resignation, how to preserve this golden mean for ukrainian diplomacy in this situation, because it is too difficult a task, because one is the current vice president of the united states of america, the other is a potential president of the united states of america, and there is a serious battle between them regarding the future of ukraine? it is really difficult, first of all, i want to say that

ukraine is today... plays a decisive role due to the peculiarities of the electoral system of the united states of america, where we know that voters are elected in individual states, and then the voters determine the fate of the whole of america, and here in the state of pennsylvania, where there are many immigrants from eastern europe, not only from ukraine, including from poland, the situation is just suspended, there it is not determined who wins, trump or harris, and therefore ukraine. such as, as they say, a golden campaign, when neither side has a complete victory, and whoever the ukrainians support has a better chance of winning, that's why trump also has to reckon with zelensky, that's why trump went to that meeting, although he said that he was not going to meet in advance and even criticized it, but as it turned out that he was even ready...

to personally come and talk, and regarding that, regarding the role of markarova, i heard such criticism, even from our high-ranking officials, associated with the office of the president, that they really are dissatisfied with ms. markarova's work as an ambassador, that she is quite pro-democratic and that she did not build relations with republicans properly, but what can i say, should i rate her? it's difficult as the minister of finance, she was wonderful as an ambassador, i don't know, but now to follow the lead of the republicans and change the ambassador, well, that would be wrong, it would also make ukraine dependent on one party force, that's why i would refrain from criticizing the ambassador and focus on the results of zelenskyi's visit to the states, however after all, he brought money from there and that’s good, i...

absolutely agree with you, because in fact, well, one party, even an influential one in the united states of america, cannot decide who will be our ambassador, if, if they are an agreement from the american authorities, then i'm sorry, it's not a question that we don't like markarov, let's send someone new there from kyiv, we'll see if trump wins the elections, then he can say that we're recalling agriman in... . you, prepare a new ambassador, well then in any case, the ambassador will change, most likely after the election, but the question is not that, you look at how, i would say, the demands of trump's entourage and trump personally have changed in general, because in the last election he demanded that the ukrainian authorities withdraw the american ambassador in kyiv, now he is at least closer to that, to reality, well, by the way, if we talk about trump, then of

course he is. these days i talked a lot about...