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because in reality, one party, even an influential one in the united states of america, cannot decide who will be ours, if, if it has an agreement from the american authorities, then , sorry, it is not a question that we do not like markarova, let's send us someone new there from kyiv, we will watch, if trump wins the elections, then he can say that we are recalling agriman in markarova, prepare a new ambassador. in any case, the ambassador will change, most likely after the elections, but the question is not look at how, i would say, the demands of trump's entourage and trump personally have changed in general, because in the last election he demanded that the ukrainian authorities recall the american ambassador to kyiv, and now he is at least closer to that, to reality, well, to things, if we talk about trump, then of course these days he talked a lot about...
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zelenskyi, and it was in all mass media, of course, in the united states of america, he accused the president of ukraine of refusing to conclude an agreement with russia, which allegedly led to the destruction of the country. let's listen to this fairly sharp statement of the candidate from the republican party in the presidential elections in the usa. what's wrong with you now? three years of terrible fighting, the country was completely destroyed. millions and millions of people, including all these distinguished soldiers, are dead. these magnificent buildings with golden baths are destroyed and lie in ruins. you will never see any city or town again, never. they will never be restored. they are all destroyed, except for kyiv. they were thousands of years old. only think 3 years ago you had a beautiful
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civilization, now most of the country is gone, so many people died, many people went to poland, to hungary, to other places, they will never come back, by the way, this is what he said just a few days ago, and today he already announced on fox news that i will definitely come to ukraine, it is a beautiful country, well, that is, he... constantly contradicts himself, the whole country is in ruins, so he is going to go to it , with which oli is related so and so trump's behavior, i will not define it , but he constantly fluctuates , these are the fluctuations that he has from the fact that we have lost everything, everything is gone, and to the fact that this is a country for which we must fight, and we will fight , i will come to an agreement with putin and
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i will come to an agreement: everything will be fine with zelenskyi, well, in fact , he is not very wavering, i wouldn’t say that he is wavering, he formed his point of view quite a long time ago, he supports putin absolutely frankly, he believes that america should cooperate with russia at the expense of other countries, and this is his position, which has not changed since 19, well, probably 16th year, that is, he does everything within the framework of this same story, and here... well, listen, well, the usual rhetoric of a not very educated person, to whom someone ran up, said something, and he, he didn't reads, practically, everyone knows that, he only reads tweets in social networks, in his social networks, well, yes, and his tweets, and his tweets, yes, that is, i think that somewhere he read some kind of vagalimata, then someone came to him another race, he says that he talked, some kind of delusional, well, here are the pictures for you, he will look, yes, something is wrong with me spoke up saying something else, i am more
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surprised that he pretends that the war started only in the 22nd year, as if there was no 14th year, as if putin did not seize crimea, and when he says that during my presidency there would be no war it was, yes, during your presidency there was already a war, and you did nothing, you did not liberate crimea, if you think that obama behaved wrongly there and was too lenient, what will you do? i didn't see, trump's weak position is that he was already president, and he showed that he can't do anything with putin to do that he is not a strong president, that is why it is difficult for him to prove in these elections that he can do something with putin, and he is now producing such and such peace-loving rhetoric, well, this is not peace-loving rhetoric, it is purely isolationist isolationist rhetoric. how
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do we live on an island, we have, on the one hand , the principle, well, in the states, there have always been and there have been some who think that we are an ocean from another ocean, that no one can attack us, especially and... that's why we don't have to don't interfere anywhere, it's always, let's say, it i don’t know from the end of the 19th century , it was definitely like that, during the second world war, they too, when america intervened, intervened very late , more so during the first world war , three years have passed, and in our country, after the full-scale war, almost three years have passed it's already time to open a second front, well, actually, actually, well, well, this is part of it. american such culture, it's just that it becomes more somehow widespread, then less, well, we have to understand what it is, and of course we have to understand the dangers, so we when we look at trapov, this is just an extreme version of this rhetoric, and about rhetoric, zelensky, while in the united states
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of america, stated that we should do this, meaning to stop putin by november, we will try on the battlefield with our heroic soldiers, but we understand that after november we will have to decide, and we hope that the power of the united states of america will be strong, we count on it, that is, the president of ukraine still counts on the support of our western partners, and in including the americans, although, well, judging by the statements that were made, that the main decisions are being transferred to germany by our partners. on october 12, there will be a quadrilateral meeting of the leaders of the four countries. of the united states of america, great britain, france and germany, and there, by the way, this plan for the victory of ukraine will be discussed, and probably, by then, this plan will appear in the western press, i have a feeling that every day we will see the full content of this document, or shall we say, with
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the comments of western experts, i am not sure that we will quickly get this victory plan here, but what the western press already has and they have partially leaked. some points of this victory plan, because it is certain, no matter how much i invite politicians and diplomats to the evening broadcasts, no one can explain to me at all what is in this victory plan, because this victory plan was obviously seen by two people, andriy yermak and volodymyr zelensky, because they are now in the united states, nothing, as always there will be something from the white house or from some other administration there, or from the same trump, who must have been handed something there, then it's a shame. it somehow doesn't flow well in our country, and it just flows from there, it doesn't flow well in our country, because the authorities don't trust journalists, they say that they don't need journalists and they can at all, but there is trust and that's why there are always some scandals as a result, because
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the wrong things were poured out. yes, friends, i would like to remind you that we are working live on the tv channel, today i have olga len and andriy yanitsky as guests, and during this broadcast we conduct survey, today we ask you about this. will the united states of america continue to help ukraine if trump wins? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote by numbers, yes 0.800 211 381 , no 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. another topic that is parallel develops and developed in russia, this is the adoption of a changed doctrine, the nuclear doctrine of nuclear deterrence, as they call it at the security council of the russian federation, putin announced the expansion of this very russian doctrine
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of nuclear deterrence. let's hear what he said. the list of military threats for neutralization has been added. nuclear deterrence measures are used, which i would especially like to draw your attention to in the updated version of the document, aggression against russia by any non-nuclear state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear state, is proposed be seen as their joint attack on the russian federation. well, to be honest, i don't quite understand what i'm talking about. the version of nuclear deterrence differs from the current one, because if it is written in their concept of nuclear deterrence that any troops that attack our territory, nuclear weapons can be used against them and against that country, is there a difference in collaboration, this
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state is not nuclear , as we are with someone or not, if you say that you were attacked and your territorial integrity is threatened, so... well, if you're not going to shoot, as they say, don't holster your gun, beehive? well , the logic is a little different here, well, first of all, this, of course, is the whole conversation, it is not only designed for the outside. the audience is also internal, and this is obsessive, this desire to tell that they are at war, we are not fighting with ukraine, but with the entire nato bloc, and america has already attacked us, this is all an attempt to bring some, well, who is putin in general, well, he is a killer, of course, who is used to collecting a folder of classified material, i pushed this folder, someone read it, got scared, said, oh my god, there is such a terrible thing written here, that's what he's doing, he's collecting some kind of folder. hopes that if we write there that it was an attack, and you have already attacked us, then everyone will grab their heads
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and say, my god, what a horror, it turns out that we are already at war with russia, well, it doesn’t work like that, well but if we talk about how, how they see it for themselves, i think that they are following the story that was painted in his articles by a certain serhiy karaganov, who, of course, has been in a coma for a long time, but he likes to wave a nuclear weapon very much weapons, and this one... karaganov, he, uh, literally ran around for two years with the idea that, uh, uh, the particle of nuclear escalation has many steps, something like a dozen or so, and you have to follow it and scare the west, that is, they are now, consider it, so on the second step, that is, before that there must be some, but we prepared the nuclear forces to do there, then we prepared, so look, this is the final preparation for nuclear weapons. tests, then we conducted simulated nuclear tests, then, and we did conduct
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tests, and then we conducted more tests, and so on and so on, that is, there is still going and going on this ladder, so that you understand, but for now, even they really want to reach at least nuclear tests, at least on a new land, but after that, how their sarmatian blew up in a mine, it's problematic to make the president... andrzej duda believes that there is nothing fundamentally new in putin's words about the expansion of russian military doctrine, but the one who uses nuclear weapons first will bear all the responsibility. let's listen to what he said president duda. there is nothing new in this. on the other hand, vladimir putin also knows very well, as do his generals, that whoever uses nuclear weapons first will be damned. they will never get rid of this... how come
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duda didn't say one more phrase here, because he said: the first one to use nuclear weapons will be damned, i would add the one who survives, but he said in at the very least, i would like to return to putin's statement, why he actually made it now, why they made these changes. i think it has something to do with the visit of president zelenskyi to the states, because one of the topics being discussed is the provision of long-range missiles to ukraine that can reach even moscow, and we see even in the opposition, so-called liberal russian media, which suddenly come out with materials, oh, how to save themselves from missile attacks, that is, when russia fired at ukraine, they did not come out with such materials, although they seemed to be on pro-ukrainian positions, but now it is actually clear what positions they were in, because as soon as
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missile attacks threaten moscow, immediately some instructions on how to save the lives of civilians, they were not very interested in the lives of ukrainian civilians, but i digress, so if zelensky is now discussing this issue in the states, then of course putin is trying to spoil these negotiations and thus gives a signal that friends, if you these distant ones are coming. missiles, then we will use nuclear weapons in response, well, they hope to scare someone in the states in this way, unfortunately, the american press writes that we have not received permission yet, fortunately we have our own missile development, that's why they didn't receive american missiles, well, nothing, ukrainian ones will arrive, debris, traditionally debris, well, and i also think that in fact this is such a pass to trump's election campaign already, if we talked about... everything was about the relationship in general , what is happening, this is exactly what is included in
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trump's rhetoric that ukraine is dragging us into a nuclear war, and this is exactly what he is doing to scare the average american, his voter, with the fact that there is a threat of a nuclear war, and accordingly, if we let's not support ukraine and russia will seize ukraine, well then there will be no such threat, of course delusional, but that’s how it works, and this pass is just right for... trump’s campaign to show that, you see, there is something that biden is doing so dangerous, he is giving yet another money and weapons, and at this time trump can tell , you see how dangerous all this is, there putin has already... said something like that and they are preparing and probably everything will be terrible, well, i say again, first of all, well, it is a very long time, and trump promises to come to an agreement with him, yes and promises to come to an agreement, that is to say, this is really also this kind of interference in the election campaign, well, actually, how to sell ukraine's surrender to trump to their own population, just like that, just say, explain that this is how we didn't
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help our ally in eastern europe, who was in favor of the alliance. states for many years and was actually an outpost of western values ​​in this region . its allies, it is not clear why ukraine here you can come up with some kind of story, well, let's keep an eye on how this whole topic with nuclear weapons will develop, because really, in 2.5 years, we have already learned a lot about a lot of things, both from medvedev and from other kremlin avatars there , what will happen and will happen if rockets fall on the crimean peninsula, what will happen if these rockets fall on the territory of the russian federation, russia has already tested all the weapons
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it had and is hitting ukraine absolutely. with all kinds of weapons, absolutely without discerning whether it is a civilian city or not they don't care whether it's a civilian city or peaceful people running over critical infrastructure objects, so in principle the only argument they have left is nuclear weapons, well, the american and british press writes that in 2025 ukraine may have elections, elections, presidential elections and... what the economist writes: against the background of a drop in his ratings, the president of ukraine is allegedly considering the possibility of holding presidential elections in the 25th year, with the help of which zelensky wants to strengthen his power. in these in this text many references to anonymous sources from various headquarters, from various politicians who say that the process has already started, i think that it
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is unlikely that we should not think about the elections. politicians can, because it is clear that elections shape the political system in ukraine, the president is elected, we have a democracy, a democratically elected president, a democratically elected parliament, a government democratically formed by the parliament, that is, all procedures are followed, but ulyu, is this even possible? that literally in a year, if the situation is normalized, it can be. normalized only by some kind of truce or some kind of temporary peace, probably between ukraine and russia, that there will be presidential elections in ukraine? well, i would say that in fact this team, since the 22nd year, has been trying to hold some kind of election, and it is constantly preparing for them, and in fact, because of this, we have so many failures of some
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military politicians and in international politics, precisely because too much is being prepared. before the elections, but if we turn to realism, yes, yes, i think that it is realistic to hold elections, moreover, i will tell you, even worse, they can be held when there is no truce, when there is no freeze, all this can also be held and you can come up with some forms of electronic voting, something else, that is, a bunch there are options, what can be done, whether these elections will be legitimate, come on, well, that's another question. yes, because many people are outside ukraine, many territories are occupied, it is not clear what the voter lists are, but if there is a strong desire, moreover, if there is a strong desire not only in president, but it will also be such and such an internal, let's say, consensus of the political elites, everyone will close their eyes in unison to the fact that these are
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some very strange elections, and also, if a number of our allies will also see that you... elections - this is a way, for example, to restart our political system and restart some kind of, you know, internal trust in the authorities, then yes, then it will be carried out, and, unfortunately, we cannot imagine with you now in what form, because again, it depends on the circumstances that will be there, but it is possible, well perhaps, i thought that if our technologies are developing so strongly and the action is used in... including for the authorization of any client, that is, you can confirm your identity through an action, through an electronic signature, and then you mentioned something that a lot of people do. abroad, but why can't they abroad vote for this or that candidate andri? well, they can, we see that train tickets are also sold today because of the action, and
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even tickets to the theater can be bought through the action. that is, the technology is common and widespread, and many ukrainians have already learned to use it. there is a question about what to do with people who do not have smartphones, because there are still elderly people who still use push-button phones, and there are people... who fundamentally do not use their smartphones because they fear the leakage of personal data , but these people can be offered some alternative form, a traditional form of voting, in fact, a technological one, i think that it is already possible to hold elections, moreover, there are - such, to me the question seems to be, for example, how the military will vote, this question was constantly asked here, because the military ... on the front line, they are very often out of the zone, they cannot vote, but voting in many countries is stretched to the bottom, and here too they can make rotations, they can make
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the time for voting and the counting of votes, it’s another matter what this vote will show us, and i talked to one politician who says: you know, we are not really preparing for the elections, because if there will still be ... some truce, then the election campaign will be very short, it is unrealistic to invest money in the development of one's own brand throughout the country, so it will most likely be the election of such coalitions, i.e. a coalition that is pro-president and a coalition that is in opposition to the president, which will consist of popular persons, because what the president's office is doing is trying... so that popular people, even people who are in the power system, speak less in public. we see that budan gives less interviews, we see that
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kim is not in the media, that is, he remains here only, like the one voice policy, and we know whose voice it is. well, by the way, according to the american national democratic institute, the trust of ukrainians in zelenskyi decreased significantly after the jump at the beginning of the full-scale aggression of the russian federation. if on may 23, trust in the president was 80%, then as of may of this year it has stabilized at the level of 45%. it is worth noting that in december 21st, this trust was only 18%, well, that's it, and what conclusion do we draw from this, is it really necessary to hold quick elections, because while it is still 45, not 18%, well, yes, but it is 18%, it was just when zelensky was accusing, by the way. renata akhmetova in the preparation of a coup d'état, because the media owned by rinat leonidovych, well, that's enough, scrupulously,
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firstly, these media are no longer there, and secondly, well, the mass of the people has changed a little in general, once again abroad and somewhere , sometimes in such that they do not see the media, they see youtube, they see social networks, that is, by itself, the company itself will technologically pass a little on other platforms, no, well office of the president. it must be admitted, i learned to control the information sphere quite effectively, this marathon, the only one that exists now, which, we saw zelensky's interview, where he said that they say what they want there, we have no influence on it at all, well, it was a little, well, how funny it is to read, maybe they don't report to the president, well, yes, but the influence, the influence is clear, there is coordination of the content in the marathon, yes, the marathon still has coverage, maybe not. as much as they would like, but still there is a percentage, well, they have a share of 10%, and this is the largest share among news channels, this is not because they are so
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successful, but because they created such conditions, and secondly, telegram channels, until now, we know that there are claims in france against pavel dorov, who is the founder of telegram, there are already statements from special services, by the way, isn't that why there are rumors that bodanov should be ... because he may have spoken out against telegram, but it turns out that telegram channels are dangerous, and that state authorities continue to inform the population through telegram, well, let's face it, what to inform the population through telegram - that's fine, that's more nothing, it's more like internal communication through tele anonymous telegram channels, which are connected, connected to the authorities, disinform the population as well, not only just i think, here you know, there is a little more. the danger of all these stories, because well, in any case, as i say again, there will be no normal voter register, because it cannot be created, it will not
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be clear who votes. and there, on the one hand, there is the possibility of manipulation , of course, the question of how observers are, we know that there are observers at regular elections, there are journalists, there is a vote count, it will be very very strange, the public can control everything, and as in the case of actions, someone from the public can access like this raw code and see if these people really voted, if these votes were really counted , i think that the question. question, well , we still do not know, again, due to the fact that the mass of people are not in ukraine, they may be somewhere even in russia, for example, and how these people will vote, this, you know, is a leap into the unknown, colleagues , on the occupied in the territories, everyone establishes friendship under the control of these militants, and votes, i will tell our tv viewers that we are currently considering the hypothetical possibility of holding elections in
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2025. what we are talking about now is a warning to those who think that such elections can take place, or that such elections can be held, and that they will be held most importantly honestly and transparently, because we are a democratic state, i repeat once again, we not russia, and we are not a central asian country, that is, we are a democratic state that grew up on three maidans in a whole generation grew up, and therefore no one will allow anyone to falsify, no one... will not allow anyone to do any manipulations with the votes of ukrainians, because yanukovych tried to do it in 2004 and nothing came of it, and in the 10th there is also a question about the transparency of what there are elections, but we all understand that democracy must move forward in ukraine, and if hostilities are indeed suspended, then the question of elections will obviously arise. in ukraine
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and we will certainly return to it in our next programs, unfortunately, it's our time the program is coming to an end. olga len, andriy yanitskyi were guests of today's program. thank you, colleagues. and let me remind you that throughout our broadcast we conducted a survey, today we asked you whether the united states of america will continue to help ukraine in the event of trump's victory. 51% of those who watched us said yes and 49 - no, well that is 50/50, 50 on... the one who has a controlling stake said 51%. so, friends, this was serhiy rudenko's verdict of provia program, thank you all for your attention, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your loved ones dear ones, i say goodbye to you until next week, bye. the book women at war, a joint
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