experienced commanders will ensure your high-quality training and education. fill out the questionnaire and choose the direction where you can be most effective. we are waiting for you in the team of tssoa asbu. together we will write the history of victory. details on the official pages of the sbu. thank you for the morning time with espresso, we drink coffee, we donate, we support our three brigades with everything we need, and in the meantime we will ask cyber security expert kostyantyn korsyn about the amazing telegram adventures of other idiots in ukraine. mr. konstantin, good morning, congratulations, you know, it all looked like some kind of detective comedy series, that is, a joke. the national security council has introduced restrictions on the use

of telegram for all civil servants, the military, state bodies, everything should be as it should be. during the same day, when these sanctions were introduced, there were about 15 new messages from the official zelensky telegram channel. after that, lytvynenko had to come out in the evening and say, i, as the secretary, will tell you that we introduced such severe sanctions that all official state bodies now have. the opportunity to be an exception and continue working in telegram. what was it? and it was an attempt, but, well, the positive news is that it still happened and somehow it leaked into the public information space. and the negative news is that , despite the fact that there are specialists in the nsdc, in the apparatus of the nsdc, in the national coordination center for cyber ​​security. who are aware of

the danger of the telegram and are trying to do something about it to protect the country, but this is a professional opinion, it is contradictory to the position of the political power, the office in which the telegram plays an important role for, well, you can even... say, in the electoral sense, well , that is, the ban on telegram now for state structures will have a negative impact on the popularity of the ruling party and, accordingly, on their chances of winning in the next elections, so the experts initially accepted really professional correct decision, but it went against far-sighted political plans, so they immediately received a cap, yes... the issue

of cyber security of the state is not as important as certain political ambitions and election prospects during the war, an official press conference, who should come here, some official media, something must be called, something can be done, actually, is it possible to apply somewhere else, or can someone else have an influence on that situation, so that these bans really take place , the influence, well, what society can only have, in fact, the demand, the request of society, public civil society, but unfortunately, civil society is all sitting on the telegram, well, according to some estimates, to 80% of ukrainians use telegram, i don't and i don't used it, and i urge everyone not to use it, but well, this whole story is expanding. about the telegram, about its real

purpose, about the fact that it is unprotected, it is completely russian, how it helps the russians to kill ukrainians, and well, slowly, little by little, here i am and some other enthusiasts, quixotics, who are trying to fight these windmills , telling about the dangers of the telegram, and well, you see, here is this drop, drop by drop, here are the first signs. were affected, society learned that, after all, there are some, even in state bodies have experts who are aware, and in fact, it is necessary, well, somehow to convey that this is the professional opinion of any cyber security person there, yes, who clearly understands what a telegram is and that it is evil, in fact, yes, but there are others interests that go against the interests of the country, well, that is, many citizens, even in...

in the comments under my posts where i criticize telegram, they write yes, i use telegram, but i am against being official telegram channels, it is not one, not two, even people, well, simple with... ordinary people, ordinary readers, many of them understand that during the war against russia , using russian products is something abnormal and threatens our common security. mr. kostyantyn, we have to take a short break from our conversation, because there is fresh information from sumy oblast that, as a result of a double strike by shaheds, six people have already died. were killed, it was an attack on a medical facility, it is known that one of the dead is a policeman, another policeman is also wounded, and literally in half an hour we will be able to find out more directly from the residents sumy region, now let's continue our actual conversation about cyber security with mr. kostyantyn, mr.

kostyantyn, here such a situation is still interesting, while durov is running around paris without passports and telling law enforcement officers something, he promised that... they will cooperate, and there was official information that telegram would transmit and share information with law enforcement officers in case of various threats, and even after that it was indicated, except of russia, belarus and ukraine, well, what should we do with it, and interesting information, well, then the question arises, and how what about the arab emirates there? regarding the authorities of china, i don’t know, or north korea, if it is not in this, it is not in this list, afghanistan, uh, well, that is, a rather strange statement, and in principle , the owners of modern trending, top messengers there, never anything such statements were not

made, because such statements literally mean a message to all users: we will turn you in, in which case, if they ask us... the authorities of your country, and well, in principle, this should be the end messenger, all users should get up and leave, but the telegram audience it is quite specific and it does not scare you, and in general, well, it is also a statement in itself, it should be, well, here except that it is, to put it mildly, unusual and disloyal to users, and it should contain some. here, if this is a manual list, what we give here, and here we don't give it out, then it can change accordingly at any moment, and who will decide the fool, well, that is, if france arrested him, he gives them out, okay, then he will travel to the arab

emirates, he will be arrested there to be extradited to them, well, how it works is not entirely clear, and that is it is necessary to impersonally influence the fool so that he will change. that list of countries to which he will release information about users, not only with the halep telegram, in general , cybercrime, online theft and so on, this is actually one of the very common crimes today, and here we have the latest from north korea , hackers got into a company that manufactures air defense system aristi, actually we also use these air defense systems, information from shigel, what is this about? indicates that they are not reliable there, or that they can already get there anywhere, and what might be the consequences? actually, this is the wave of cyberattacks and physical attacks on weapons manufacturers in western europe, it has been observed for the last month,

a sharp increase, and cyberattacks themselves, they are relatively cheaper, cheaper and significantly so. it is safer for the attackers, if they can physically detain them, then for cyber attackers these risks are almost zero, so the russians, who have been preparing for a cyber war for decades since the beginning of the zero years, they - sharply threw all their resources, both the russians and their friends from the dprk and the chinese, well, that is, let's say so. one geopolitical community, and they, literally in the last month, there has been a sharp intensification of this activity, and it will continue, i think, until somehow

the situation on the front calms down, because cyber operations, they are always auxiliary to ground operations, and such a trend has been tracked for quite some time. mr. kostyantyn, right now mass messages and other warnings from our cyber police and from the cyber unit of the security service of ukraine are being sent out in messengers, which are not open up don't participate in the survey, all other things, one way or another, this brings us back to the same telegram, where now there are mass hacking of accounts, and while a person does not have access to his account, he is engaged in fraud as much as possible, and such examples of fraud, in there are a lot of fraudulent scenes, including the collection of funds and all kinds of chess playing, and at the same time we get into trouble, because we have an option... in ukraine, well, almost like in that inside a joke about

hedgehogs that stung, cried and climbed on on a cactus, because 80%, like up to 80%, use telegram as a source of information, while every second of the respondents knows that they are being fooled by fakes and that there are manipulations, these hedgehogs and cactus, and what to do with it, because well, as they say, don't do it. well, i don't know, there is a national campaign to explain to people, or to give lists of evil tanks or other channels through which they are fooled, it will not help, how to remove this dualism in general? in principle, the center for combating disinformation regularly publishes lists of telegram channels about pro-russian, anti-ukrainian and so on, contacts, tries to contact telegram, but so far with zero results... as for what to do, the plan is quite simple, i

have voiced it several times, it consists of two points, the first point is to stop giving the state bad for example, forbidding all state structures to use telegram as an official channel of communication with people, this is the first point, and the second point is exactly a national awareness campaign involving there influencers, stars. known people who would tell, well, who would tell about the dangers of the telegram, why exactly, including technical experts who would tell about the technical side of the issue, journalists who would tell about the purely moral aspect, the story of the fool, how he was released from russia with money in what seems to be the 17th year, although khodorkovsky was not released there, for example, yes, someone was killed at all. they bought vkontakte from him with money and released him, he calmly

left, and there are still many, many stories with funding from the kremlin, but there is a lot to talk about tell a lot of facts, and it could be implemented in a national company, thus simply not prohibiting, not blocking anything, and reduce the level of infiltration of telegram into ukrainian society to the level of vkontakte and a classmate. this is a very real task, well, absolutely real, if it was possible to repeat something. mr. konstantin, thank you for the conversation, konstantin corson, cyber security expert, we will take a short break now. and we will continue to talk about very difficult evacuation cases, about how to evacuate families with children, about how to deal with children, about how to evacuate families with children who have special needs, i.e. who need to be provided with new, comfortable, necessary things. environment in a few minutes, wait for everything about it. mega sale on unpack tv.

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call! we return, we see that the number of funds in the account is increasing, and this ok, but they are still not enough, so here is a short reminder, maybe someone did not have time to scan the qr code, you can do it now, if you read our defenders themselves, their messages, they actually say what is needed, a large number drones, and they say that it's the guys who have the problem, that it's actually a very... che issue and they really, really need it, we can help provide at least a small part of what they're asking for and we can do it together, so be please join, a total of 3.5 million, this is our goal, and we hope that in the near future already 2,200 hryvnias will be in the account, we will inform you about it, and

now, as promised, volunteer tetyana lyulka will be in touch with us, mrs. tetyana, glory to ukraine, you know, i probably miss you very much i will surprise you, because last night we returned from evacuation from the city lviv, lviv, how is that? yes, you will be very surprised, although before that we were in kherson, and above all in the sud region, the focus of my foundation is helping children. we already have more than 2,000 children under our care, but there is a special category that i personally i think such a high risk group, we have over 100 such children, they are children who have... lost their parents and live with carers of retirement age, uh, because we understand, usually these carers are 60+, but there are carers who are

80+ , by the way, it is not clear who is taking care of whom, and actually this situation happened, we have two boys from kostyantynivka who lived with their grandmother in the city of lviv, we helped these children, and... i received a message on thursday that my grandmother has been bedridden for four months after a stroke, and minor children are taking care of her these, they hid it because they were afraid that they would end up in a shelter, and actually this is the situation, we left immediately, but when we came on monday to pick up the children, the grandmother was in a very serious condition, so we organized an ambulance, we wanted to bring to myself, we are located in the city of bila tserkva, our headquarters is the main one, we found and created all the conditions where the children can live, who will take care of the grandmother and so on, but it happened worst of all, on wednesday morning the grandmother died, and

it was all before our eyes, and these two boys, so we only had a day to to solve this issue somehow, and on thursday afternoon we organized the whole funeral, because there are no relatives, no one, the children are completely deprived of parental care, there is only one. the guardian was a grandmother, and actually a big thanks to the service for children in the city of lviv, in the city of bila tserkva, we worked in a day and on friday night together with the children we were already in bila tserkva. this is how our evacuation was. such children end up in an orphanage, or do you actually have the opportunity to immediately place them somewhere in a family with guardians so that they receive appropriate care. that's why i started. i have been working on this focus for six months now, i realized that these children can, we have a very well thought out system in the state, now there is a

way for such children to go to family-type homes, but actually in the conditions that the children live in while they are still with guardians, well, i will be honest , i'm not sure that it's better, as they say, it's better with parents or guardians, because well, this example became very vivid for me when the children were forced, sorry, grandmother, to change diapers, well it was a very scary situation for me, very in fact, it was with these children that a decision had to be made very quickly at that moment, so at the moment i am the temporary guardian of these children, i took care of myself, there were simply no others, well, there was no other option, and the decision had to be made just at that second, we 're creating a project right now, it's called the home care center, just yesterday we announced it, although the first collection... we started on my birthday, what are we doing, we want to create a place where carers can live because - 99% of children like us

we take care of children with the status of idps who left donetsk, kherson, sumy, kharkiv, and zaporizhzhia regions, and most of these children and their guardians, we pay housing, rent, because their pensions and payments are not enough for them. we have a boy from lehman, whom we... still found his mother alive, but she died in lehman, she died in december of the 23rd year, in the first days of january we already took the grandmother with this boy, and these are the ones, you know , an illustration just for the situations that occur, this child and grandmother live on rented housing, which is paid for by our fund, eh, they are fully provided for by us, medical, food, school, well, everything, even the first time i took this child to school, eh... but grandmother, well, let's say that 70 years , we don't know, we do everything to make her live as long as possible, but if these people all lived in the same city, well, for example, as it is, i

think it's simply an incredible project of marta levchenko, the city good, where do they live, by the way, it is the largest shelter in europe today, where 300 mothers and children live, grandparents with children, we are actually currently creating such a project where they can live, and we plan... to launch it in the new year, we are currently collecting funds to buy the land with the building, it is a great miracle that we found such land, 2 hectares of land together with 2000 km of buildings, and here is our goal for the new year, we have to start, that is, you will actually make such a hybrid of a nursing home and a shelter for children, yes, this is an option, everything is true, there is no such model, so i spent six months driving around all the famous ones unknown shelters in ukraine, i searched. i wanted to understand how, how it should be, and i really liked that in the city of good, there is also an animal shelter where children come into contact with animals, and it was just

touching for me, i... right, that's why we , we will have it like this, we will live here, the model has already been thought out, we, i turned to an architect, quite well-known in the city of kyiv, who agreed to help us make a plan for the reconstruction of the building that we are supposed to buy, where it will be it is foreseen that they will live, you know, not like in a shelter, where it is long the corridor and the little rooms, they will have a separate little yard actually, because you know, for people of retirement age, it is very important to have... the opportunity to even plant some tomatoes, so we foresee all that, yes, and at the moment we are planning, that at once we will be able to accept about 30 children, and now i am working in children's services with lawyers, what will be the legal status of our center, and most importantly, what will happen, what is the next procedure if it does not become guardian, who will be with the children, i am interested in these children to came of age lived in our center. and had

their own room, housing there, so that they did not have to think about what to do next, and some such moments are connected with upbringing, because when it comes to minor children, here it is not only about food, about medicine, about bringing them to school, there are still additional certain aspects to teach that child to take care of himself after 18, you raise the absolutely right question, that's why we have a foster care service and we are already 2.5 years away. have established a certain work procedure, we have an algorithm for working with such children, the first is a mandatory condition, it psychologist, i told you about a boy from lyman, who is 7 years old, he attends twice a week at the expense of the fund, we do not, well, we do not turn to free psychologists, although now we are forming a pool of our own psychologists, they undergo training, which will work in the home center, i.e. the first condition is

a psychologist, the child must... in principle, on the example of this boy, he was non-contact, he was very aggressive, he behaved very aggressively with our patronage service, sometimes it just reached the point of absurdity, he was very aggressive towards his grandmother, he refused to go to school, that is, the child was very problematic, and he was not the only one, it was all of them, mainly because his mother died before his eyes, and it was such a very difficult and problematic situation, and january passed. .. actually this child has been living with us for 9 months, and these are just people who knew before and now, this is a colossal difference, that is, our goal is the first psychological adaptation and rehabilitation of the child, and we already have algorithms, we know how it is to do, and psychologists help us a lot in this. second, you said very correctly, this is an educational moment, and we we are engaged in this, i am personally involved in all the processes, we have a

master project at our foundation... a studio, this is such a small illustration of what we do, where children work with wood, we have masters who work with them, that is, we have been from a young age, because before the start of a full-scale war, for many years i had a project called the city of professions, a social project, and i saw that the big problem is to help children find their way in life, in adult life, what they would like to do, that is why our main direction is the adaptation of the child after the loss of e... parents or the loss of a guardian, and the second is to help the child orient himself, no matter what he is doing, because this is when the goal, meaning, and the child is happy to do everything, you can see all this there on my personal facebook page, we are constantly redirecting actually viewers to you to take a look at the pages, look to get more information, maybe join it with help, if someone you know needs help with the evacuation of such families, then please

report. tatyana lyulka, a volunteer, was there with us, we have fresh news from poltava oblast regarding this night attack, the energy infrastructure in the region is damaged, and some consumers are left without electricity, our colleagues from the news department will tell you more, actually news time is approaching, khrystyna parubiy is ready to share information about the most important thing, khrystyna, then we pass the word, congratulations, colleagues, thank you, the details of the russian attack on the sums have appeared, which is known as of this moment... wait for the next release. news in now espresso, khrystyna porubiy works in the studio. congratulations. already known about six dead in sumy. among them are police officers.