reconstruction of their housing. we will now move with you to the south of our country, namely to odesa. it would seem, yes, once this was a carefree region of ours, a resort where all ukrainians went to the sea for the summer, but now we understand that odesa is almost always under the enemy's attention, there the shelling does not stop. and in july of the 22nd year , the village of sergiyivka got. let's see how the reconstruction is going there now. and let's move on to the discussion in our studio, it didn't happen anyway, it took everything, that's all they did to me and here's this the wall, too, ms. oksana shows us her apartment, it is currently under renovation, restore what was destroyed by the occupiers. on the night of july 1, 2022, a russian kha-22 hit a nine-story building in serhiivka, odesa region. the rocket hit the...

ground floor and killed all the residents of the entrance from the first to the fourth floor, 22 people died, among them children, the most important thing is that we are alive, many people, if they were not already, i knew them all, i i knew everyone, my neighbor galya and serozha, their daughter stayed with them, i knew such people, i knew everyone everyone, mrs. oksana. who was not at home on that fateful day, it was this that saved their lives. oksana's mother, who lived in the same house, was seriously injured. my mother was there and my mother suffered a lot, she was one of the most difficult, she was in the intensive care unit for 5 days, well, if we did not know at all what would happen, thank god, she survived, but now we are on medication for the third year, now in... .

we are conducting an examination again, the condition is serious, the high-rise building that was hit was heavily damaged, one section was practically destroyed, out of 106 apartments were destroyed. 105, and even in the apartments that stood, there was practically nothing left, yes, nothing was left, i had nothing left, i mean, only the table that stood in the kitchen, and partly the kitchen itself, and that's what i have. this is the third year, i rent a garage, it leaked, that is, apparently it is already unlivable there, so it turns out, even forever, it will be rebuilt, i will go into the bare walls and that’s it, i have nothing , but despite everything, the house is being restored , on december 1, 2023, the recovery agency took up the case, more than six months later the builders managed to complete the most difficult work, now the facades and decoration are according to plan.

in six months, it was possible to complete all the structural elements to strengthen our house and, well, all the engineering engineering networks , all the electrical and plumbing networks were laid, repaired and installed in the house, well, that's the most important thing. at the same time, the workers complain that the work was difficult, because the high-rise building was erected incorrectly from the very beginning, so now it is not only being rebuilt, but also being strengthened. firstly, they don't have geometry, they haven't had geometry for a long time was being built, and plus you can see the gap, which also means that he got rid of it, and it was very important to establish the geometric shapes of our house, both internal and external facade. now there is a lot of work here, the walls are painted, tiles are laid, the facade is insulated.

there are many residents of this building among the workers, they say, there are not many people in serhiivka, but it is necessary to rebuild, among them is mrs. yevgenia, her apartment was also destroyed by a russian rocket, but she continues to work so that everyone can return to their homes as soon as possible. it's okay, everything turns out beautifully, i think that the people who stayed here in this house to live will be satisfied, because that's all. renewed, but all the same, a big wound remains in people for life. the big wound left here by the russian federation will not be healed, but in spite of everything, the restoration continues, in particular, this multi-storey building is promised to be completed already this november. i thank my colleagues for this material, and now we will talk about how ukrainians can rebuild what russia destroyed. and let's build our conversation on

such two blocks, divide, i would say conditionally called it, let's talk first about how, for example, to rebuild what was destroyed, and how to rebuild what, in principle , the russians have already completely destroyed, for this i am bringing our guest to the studio, she is a lawyer-documentarian of the public organization pravosakhna group sich yulia polekhina , contact us. mrs. julia, i congratulate you. greetings, have a good day. well, let's first talk about those ukrainians who, perhaps, were a little more lucky, i mean, these are certain partial destructions of their homes, and not only that. it is about housing, this it is about business and other property, in a word, ms. yulia, let's talk with you about the algorithms of actions, what to do, where should people turn in the first place if they have damaged property as a result of the russian attack?

well, first, of course, i would like to start with the fact that you need to take care of your own safety, first of all, shelling can happen again, we saw this on the example of other communities where... after the first shelling, when people started trying to save the wounded, the russians shelled repeatedly. secondly, destroyed parts of buildings, they may simply collapse and some part of the structure may break off, that is, it will be necessary to be very careful here. and residents of damaged or destroyed buildings, in general, they experience unusually high stress, and this can affect the ability to properly. to record the damage, that is, first of all , it is to record the damage to one's own property, but if there is such an opportunity, then the advice is that it is necessary to film the damage without pauses, if this is not possible, then each new

video format must be started from the same the place where the previous one ended, so i would advise you to make a corrupt plan of destruction and a general one, so that it is possible ... some kind of connection to the place of the russian crime, and during fixation, there is another advice, how to take shots with the sky, the horizon, that is, in order to be able to understand this, it looks quite complicated, but it is not complicated in principle, it will simply allow you to see a kind of such scale, and i would advise you to shoot its key details in close-up, preferably from different angles, for example, there from the front, from the left side, but... well, if there is such a possibility, then if there is such a possibility in the phone, of course, what to set the location on the gadget together with the time, uh, another tip, record in parallel also with the voice, more details about the place of the event, and

when we make a video recording, when we leave, we, well, we, as documentarians, we first state our surname, patronymic, date of work, date of shooting directly, so it is possible to film neighbors or people, who can provide additional information about what happened, that is, there must be witnesses, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, definitely, well definitely, that's one of the recommendations, of course, that people can be in such a state that they refuse to talk if the person is in hospital, well, actually, it's not a single case, when, for example, an injured person... a person, unfortunately, ends up in the hospital, and in fact he cannot physically be there, photograph, film, can it simply be done, for example, neighbors or close relatives, and can they and they have the right to somehow deal with this bureaucratic red tape later, or should it be

the owner of this property, maybe you can elaborate more, give me a taftology, who exactly should do this, well, look, this is such general advice on fixing. of course, certain services always go to the place, this is what we say for insurance, yes, let's say so, i.e. the first moments, they are always very important, if a person is under rubble and then in the hospital, then of course the opportunities to go through this step she doesn't have it, so here we are already following a different path, that is, it is an official fixation, official documents, what actually needs to be done to the owner, i.e. these are all video recordings, of course. what can anyone do, neighbors, people who passed by passers-by, yes, who are in the vicinity of this place and can do it, let's say this, yes within the framework of their emotional or physical state there, but

such are very important steps to be taken by the owners or co-owners of the damaged property, it is necessary to register an application in action. that is , it can be done through the portal or through an application on a mobile phone, it is also possible to do it through the provision center administrative services, and necessarily during the aftermath of a war crime, the police, emergency services, ambulance, i.e. all services, go to the scene, the police must communicate with the residents of the damaged building, and they must write a statement about a crime, a statement about a crime , they failed to meet collectively, and then i advise to come to the police, or this person, or there a family member, or a co-owner, and then

personally take an extract from the unified state register of pretrial investigations, that is, that the proceedings are open, criminal to open proceedings, and here is an extract from the unified state register as proof of this, and then, of course, representatives also travel to the place. local self-government or executive power or rural, well, depending on where the house is located. the owner directly submits an application to the authorized bodies for the purpose of recording damage and destruction. look, the police record this for themselves, they draw up reports of damage, they do an apartment- by-apartment tour, and they record it all in the reports. also, such acts of destruction are recorded by the body local self-government, that is, if there is already a complete package of documents, in principle, they

all work efficiently enough, i do not have any comments about it, well, no one appealed, that there were no such problematic situations, that no inspections were carried out by representatives of local self-government or the executive branch authorities, they can be phased, i.e. not today, not tomorrow and not the day after tomorrow, they are in the order of... it is specified that they should post, representatives of local authorities should post on their website, such as a list of schedules, surveys of these commissions, you can follow this way, you can directly ask when or where the person’s phone number is still in the application, mrs. yulia, please tell me what programs are actually currently in ukraine for which ukrainians can apply for reimbursement, is it currently available do we have a single program? are there several of them and under what circumstances, which program can be used? well, at the moment,

in relation to destroyed or damaged property, local self-government bodies from their own budgets provide assistance to people, be it building materials or any other necessary, necessary materials, or is it financial assistance, it all depends on the local self-government body, that is, on the local government, the general program, this is our recovery. i would like to dwell on it, because it is simple and clear, there is a procedure according to which anyone can use it, this service is provided on the basis of an application submitted to the state register of damaged and destroyed property, this is all in action, or the portal is in action , or the action application, or through the center for the provision of administrative services, as defined by law. that the recipient of this compensation, that is, it is compensation, it is not compensation, it is compensation, it can be

a natural person who is a citizen of ukraine, who in our country is of legal age, has reached the age of 18, is the owner or co-owner of the damaged object, and what is very important, that the right of ownership is confirmed, that is, there we will talk a little further about the problematic points, but i want to emphasize that the right of ownership... should be, er, further, er, some categories of persons, they have a priority right to receive compensation, among them - these are combatants actions, persons with disabilities as a result of the war, there, ah, well, large families, there is a certain list, compensation is provided for damage to single-family houses, manor-type houses, dachas, garden, er, blockhouses with separate apartments, which for example, there are some... remy entrances from the street and apartments already in high-rise, even multi-apartment buildings, if

the common areas are not damaged, this is also a very fundamental point, and the houses must be subject to current or major repairs, that is, if the deed states it is stated that the house is not is recoverable, is not subject to recovery, then here regarding this compensation, then it is not covered and... compensation according to this procedure is provided under certain conditions: first, the object must be damaged already after february 24, 22 -th year, it is located on the theory of ukraine, not on... active hostilities, not in occupation, that is, there must be access to it, access for examination, and there is also a certain list of persons who cannot apply for these compensations, these are people who have been convicted, do they have accusations on which

sanctions have been imposed, their legal successors, there well, there is... i think that these are already such details, uh, this monetary compensation, it is provided in the form of monetary assistance precisely for the purchase of building materials for independent or commissioned repair, there is a certain procedure, that there are certain institutions that can provide these repairs, that is, a separate account is opened, money cannot be withdrawn from it, money cannot be deposited into it, that is, a person is a target for the reconstruction of this. population, a very important point: in the case when repair work has already been done partially carried out on the date of submission of the application, and there are such situations, the recipient of compensation has the right to submit an application for reimbursement of repair costs, regarding this completed part of the repair work that they have already done, and an application for

carrying out repairs according to part of the repair work there, which has not yet been done. completed, had not yet been completed by the date of submission of the application, i.e. the person independently repaired something there somehow, applied somewhere, but this does not deprive him of the right to apply for this compensation, and what i said, that the money is transferred to a special account opened in one of the banks, is on the website of the ministry of digital affairs, where there is an agreement for this information interaction, but... while hearing the question, you mentioned simply that , which may be that a person has already started some restoration work on his own, will he be reimbursed for the cost of these works, or is he already, yes, yes, yes, yes, it is provided that he submits an application, and submits an application for compensation, reimbursement of that , which she has already spent on construction work, and on that

piece that still remains, or partially, or she has already completely repaired her building, then she is simply given this compensation based on her application, that is , it does not deprive the person of the right to apply for these for this monetary compensation and let's talk with you right now about who actually received such, you know, not very complex consequences of these russian attacks, that is, if there is a certain partial destruction, but let's talk about those people in whom is everything completely broken or is there a certain other one? algorithm, is it possible, do we need to submit some more documents and is it possible, is this some other procedure, is it no different from the one we already talked about, well, there is an opportunity to ask for help from the local self-government body, they have to heal people, to provide, help, provide housing, we have such a program as eselya, where a person can

use this program and take a... with minimum credit funds there this this this this this accommodation, but there is a plus in some communities are provided with temporary housing for people, but as for whether they can take advantage of this restoration program, no, of course, if it is completely destroyed and it is impossible to repair it, then of course they cannot use this program. very often, unfortunately, it happens that people run out during explosions directly, you know, what were they sleeping in and did not have time to take documents with them, and, for example, well, unfortunately, they were lost, or if there are no housing documents , or in general your somehow personal passport documents and so on, is it possible in principle to restore

these documents and somehow still submit an application for this compensation, yes it is necessary, it is... it is necessary to restore everything first, because there are such situations not only after this, but there are still such situations , that people left when they left the occupation, they did not take these documents, part of ukrainian citizens are like that, not all packages of documents, of course, that is one of the problems - this is exactly what could not be saved, of course, that first you need to restore the documents on the right of ownership, restore passport data, that's it again, i was not approached with such problematic points. i know that the state authorities, well, local authorities, i would say, authorities, help to restore documents and passports and the registration number of the tax payer's registration card, that is, i haven't come across it. with problems, that a person there for a long time cannot restore them, if they were, then they need to be restored and they are helped in this, if they were not, this is already a problem, because

there is restoration, then it is fundamentally important that this property , it was located in was registered, that is, it was located in to the register of rights to real property, and i attributed this to certain problematic points, regarding the fact that we currently have a state register of real rights to immovable property, not all real estate objects are entered, in particular , a lot of unregistered objects are not entered real estate and property rights, which were acquired before 2013, and there is a problem of lack of data, because these are documents on ownership, they are mandatory for submission for ukrainians to update. your data for to update, firstly, update, check everything, secondly, as a recommendation, but this is already such a life, let's say

that to make a notarized copy of these documents and not keep everything in one place, unfortunately, we live in such times, that or at least take a picture, so that at least there is a number so that it is possible to restore them, whatever. water data, because the situation is, i know, i have drawn it up, but when i don’t know, here it would be a little longer and more problematic, i would say that if a person already knows, he has at least from if at least some copy is photographed, or, for example, it is stored there or with friends, or with parents, or somewhere else, then it will be more, well, let's say, easier. ms. yulia, let's talk with you again about how much time you have to spend, first of all, on this bureaucracy, on

average, from your experience, and how long people have to wait for this compensation, is everything like that, you know , easy and simple, or could it drag on for months, or even years? well, look, the order of acceptance before considering applications, it is determined automatically, that is, it is an automatic queue. here , there, not lists on the knees, on slips of paper, on some piece of paper, but here is a register in the order of receipt of these messages, but this sequence is preserved, taking into account the priority of the right, what i talked about above, that is, there is a category of people in which the right has priority, so the term of consideration should not exceed 30 calendar days from the date of its submission. report to the commission and enter this into the register of damaged and destroyed property. if the application is submitted before the date of formation of the commission, then the term for consideration of the application is already calculated from

the date of formation of this commission. that is, relatively speaking, it is 30 calendar days. i will tell you that i have not encountered, nor have people approached me about something that has been under consideration for a very, very long time. the only thing that can be is how a person could do it all. online and not wait, relatively speaking, for the notification of acceptance of the application, thinking that she has already done everything, and actually, of course, that the application is not submitted, and the person is waiting, waiting, waiting, and there is no greeting, no answer, and then it already begins, when you start to understand, you begin to understand that the person did not complete the algorithm or did not add additional documents, although the order states that if the person did not add any necessary documents, then he should be contacted, but it passed and the person was at the end of this path on this portal, relatively speaking, or in action on the phone, it came that the application was accepted,

but if someone from the commission contacts her and says that some documents must be added, then they must be added these documents, of course, that is it complicates things a bit, dear, well, in general, i think that ukrainians should, if someone answers for them for a long time, also try to take the initiative and actually also remind themselves, well... themselves, because, well, in reality, there can be a lot of things, and accordingly, well, no, no according to all of ours, people can do so, and i also want to say that sometimes it can hang or something else, because this is an electronic portal, if a person is not confident in his abilities, skills or something else, then everything is better still contact the center for the provision of administrative services, we will come there on foot with all the documents and, in fact, so that the girls would help to make it happen. thank you , thank you, let me remind you, it was julia polekhina, a lawyer-documentarian of the public organization pravozakhna group sich yulia polehina, on espresso there was a special

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