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no less, in fact, there are other opinions, there is one position, more precisely, not one, a whole range of positions regarding the so-called plan, this time we already have a chinese or brazilian one, hungary joins them, and we see that even switzerland, china and brazil with a group of its supporters, we see that switzerland does not hold, in particular they stated that they actually see the possibility of a peace initiative, in addition, even we do not we are surprised by this, but victor of hungary is also essentially that he is ready to come to the ural group of china, brazil or the global south, and that they offer china, they include the following formula: first negotiations, i apologize, i will start, then i will refrain from sledges, that is, but consider this plan... as one that plays into putin's hand, and

china and brazil, after all, have the same choices, the same plans, ukraine and our allies. the question is how much this game has been played with the large number of countries that should support our peace formula, how much we have representative international forums like these are important, don't we think that someone else can also hold them, because we understand that on the eve of the first peace forum. and refused to participate in it, instead the ministry of foreign affairs of this country organized such a large international tour of its special representative lihui to the countries of the global south, then in this situation it naturally became clear that china has an alternative agenda, and when wang yi and the main advisor to brazilian president celso amari agreed that it will not only be a chinese plan, but a sino-brazilian plan, it has already become clear that china wants to give it... the appearance of at least a major international

alternative, and it seems to me that this is understood in kyiv from the podium of the un general assembly session , volodymyr zelensky condemned this plan, called it unconstructive, this too. i would say that such a rather unexpected decision for diplomacy is that if you want to build some kind of relationship with china there, you definitely do not condemn its peace initiatives from the podium session of the general assembly, but this is by and large zelensky's style to say from high platforms what he considers to be true and real, that's how he works, so here again the question is not about zelensky, the question is about shizen pin, of course, so what does he want shidzempin, he wants to demonstrate once again that there are two worlds, there is the world of the west, which is for... sanctions, and there is the world of the global south, which can save anyone from these sanctions, if you are a good partner of this global south. and that's how iran exists, and how russia exists, this is once again demonstrates this story. it shows that there is a world in which one group of countries does not maintain

ties with the conflicting party. these are the united states and the european union, which broke off relations with russia. and there is a world in which they try. to talk to everyone, and by the way, we ourselves, i would say, also from our purity and rather childish understanding of reality, give china this opportunity, because look, vani is gathering this group of friends of peace, yes, on the other hand, he is coming to meeting of the un security council, which was organized, of course, for volodymyr zelenskyi, in order to he could make a clear speech about his formula for peace, about his vision of peace, and there wang makes it, despite the fact that he is the representative of russia at the un security council. nebendzi calls this meeting a theater performance for zelenskyi, but vani participates in it, that is, shows that this is not a performance for zelenskyi, and he is ready to participate in events held with the participation of zelenskyi, then vani meets with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine andriy scebigo and, most importantly, the real head

of ukrainian diplomacy andriy yermak, well because we understand that in our conditions the minister of foreign affairs is not the chief diplomat, the chief diplomat is the head of the president's office, and the minister of foreign affairs is actually a minister. of the ministries, too, so if everyone sees that he is not just talking to sibyga, but to yermak, that is, there is a conversation at the level of leaders, because ivan is not only the minister of foreign affairs, but the head of the party's office of foreign policy, it is approximately the position occupied by yermak is real, but if you find an analogue of yermak's position, then it is vaani, the leader of the international office of the central committee of the communist party of china, so it is clear that the ukrainians also want to talk with china and... i don't want to, because at the same session vani meets with sergey lavrov, they have a friendly meeting, and then who are the friends of peace, the americans or the chinese, well, of course the chinese, if they talk to both of them and i want to do business with them, an alternative track is created, and here again there are already

many participants at this meeting of friends of peace, that is, i am not surprised, because there there is hungary, because i would say so, is leaving polarization, and you really have to be the first to catch this chinese... boat, because the next ones may simply not be taken, they will be unnecessary, so turkey, so switzerland, and switzerland, what, and switzerland, what is it doing there? switzerland is a neutral country, if it maintains neutrality, it should be a participant in all formats, this is their foreign policy logic, kazakhstan, pakistan, pakistan, why, because india is not in this format, then pakistan wants to be in good relations with china. he believes that china has to be his main speech partner, when india is getting closer to the united states, here is pakistan, and yes, and this can be said about every country, but i assure you, if china decides to gather a large representative forum of these friends of peace, there

will be about as many countries , as much as there was at our summit, because it will be, let's say, how participation in the peace forum was by and large... a manifestation of commitment to the civilized world, to america, to the group of seven, so this forum of friends of peace will be a show of affection for china, and between us, so to speak, we will have a big dilemma, if we avoid this format, call it non-constructive, and russia goes there, then china will nullify all the diplomatic results of our peace forum, because with .. almost the whole world, without the united states, without canada, without the european union, but all the others, those whom we always wanted to see for reasons i do not understand, they will all go there, and the russians will come there, we

will not be there , and everyone will say, well, who wants to peace, ukraine is simply not an independent state, when the americans told it to leave, they went to switzerland, now the americans, when the real one is really approaching. peace, then they have not gone anywhere, and if we go, as you understand, it will also be a diplomatic disaster, because we will end up at the same table with the russians, when we did not invite them, but when they invited us together with them, such two brawlers who need to be killed, this will be a clear equalization of the victim of the aggressor, and of course, it will not happen under the conditions that he thinks about ukrainian society. this is also, by the way, a big problem that you should always remember, andrii, that any negotiations will happen, even if you imagine a ceasefire, it will not end as most of our compatriots think, if there will be any at all peaceful conditions, then they may be difficult for the majority of ukrainians to perceive, and we are not preparing for this either, because our people... still live in a situation where we decide what peace will be, but we are fighting now, and if we decide , then there will be peace

as we want, this is one problem, but of course, china is playing its own game, and i keep saying that we will not be able to sit on these two chairs, because these two chairs are finished, that there are two worlds, the world, relatively speaking, of america, the european union, the world of this group of seven, and world... global rooster, the biggest problem is when you fall out of one world, you fall out of both worlds. this is a real problem. it used to be called a multi-vector foreign policy, but on the other hand, when there was a multi-vector foreign policy during the time of the kuchvs, we understand, we were just in the field under the influence of russia, they were already playing with some kind of multi-vectorness. they had their own relationship with the approach to a certain, at least economic, border. well, now. everything, now everything is clear, everything that happens with this situation, that is , either we will achieve peace with the help

of the west, or we will achieve peace with the help of china, but each time it will not be the peace that we think of the most comfortable for myself, well, that’s all, by the way, the political publication came out with a publication that ukraine allegedly sends some and... no letters, well , secret, not secret, not secret anymore, if that’s the case writes a politician, but less so and asks countries not to support china's peace plan, i don't know to what extent, since china sent letters and asked not to support ukraine's peace formulas, uh, remember, and and and besides that anthony blinken, secretary of state of the united states of america, at the meeting with onei, which we also mentioned, stated that the talks of china... about peace in ukraine differ from actions, including, in the same place, there was

information from blinken that about two-thirds machine tools, which are understood to be used later for the production of weapons and 90% of microcircuits, microelectronics, that is , what is used to produce rockets, shaheds, others there... the same ones that hit our border, in sumy, in kharkiv, in zaporizhzhia, 90% actually imports russia from china, but that's not all, in the current week, information appeared , including in the western media, that russia allegedly established some kind of joint production of drones on the territory of china, and these drones are either already being delivered, or will... in the future be supplied to the territory of russia for the war with ukraine, i.e

you see, there is already a direct statement by the us secretary of state, there is direct data on how much is being supplied, there is parallel information that china is actually arming russia, and if indeed there is information that there is a joint production of drones there, that there are some russian production facilities. weapons on the territory of china, this essentially means that china no longer just indirectly supports russia in the war, is not just a so-and-so country that sits on two chairs, but in fact is the state that de facto provides russia is lethal weapons, how do you comment on this entire array of information that we have, both from officials and... from mass media , this is what the state secretary of information is talking about, well, i have a counter question,

the united states, that is, the head of the country's diplomatic mission , which no one attacked. and how does ukraine behave with the chinese? so when the president of ukraine was asked if he knew about the supply of weapons from china to russia, he said that no weapons were being supplied and had not been supplied and that he had been promised this all day long. ugh. that is, the president zelenskyi is still proud of this. conversation with sidzempin as the highest diplomatic achievement, because we in dolsi's power circles have an illusion that sooner or later china will decide to reconcile us with russia on good terms, we will come to an agreement with him, he will give us money. in all these illusions, these people continue to live. this is when dmytro kuleba met and called her in gongzhou, and now when andriy sivbiga and andriy yermak met vaani in new york. on the ukrainian side, the question of supply by china was generally raised publicly, although b- dual technologies. we behave with the chinese like people who really want

to please comrade vanya, under no circumstances should we say anything to him that will be unpleasant to him. here is an important moment of this trouble, the first such, one of the first that occurred, is the criticism of china by the president of ukraine at the session of the general assembly of the united nations, not china, but the chinese plan, exclusively the chinese plan, but no one criticizes the chinese politics this is what blinkin says, zelensky should say, must say tsybiga, vanya, it must be in the press service of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine that the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. e asked the minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china about supplying russia with technologies that can be used in the war against ukraine and emphasized that no peacemaking efforts by china can be considered fruitful in the event that china helps with its industrial role to continue the work of the military-industrial complex complex of the russian

federation, it all sounds, does not sound, we now we behave with china the way we used to behave with russia, god forbid we say something in meetings with russian officials that they will not like, after 2019, when it is clear that we cannot say what they do not like would like, if only not to mention their surnames, but no matter how the president of ukraine from 2019 did not mention putin's surname in a negative context or in any context, he does not mention the surname of shizen pine now. and it would seem, well, we already see that such a policy has undergone an absolute fiasco, once, we let's go again, well what can i do, i can't rewire the brains of people who make decisions, so this is reality, this reality, by the way, applies to many things in terms of approaches to china, if you remember, i'm from 2022 year, i explain that if you

want to have any serious relations with china at all, you should not treat it as if you are a potential colony of china, because you are only... its appetite, as you previously whetted the appetite of the russians, with china you can do business only when you conduct politics strong partnerships, if so why don't we open up in ourselves, i said in 2022, at least the representatives of this taipei economic commission, which has been working in every better capital of the civilized country in the world, which is in warsaw, which is in moscow, for many decades , and nothing china and russia, as you can see, are not quarreling about this. because russia has shown that it can maintain economic relations with taiwan, and let china not bypass it, it recognizes the policy of one china, but economic relations are mutual, not you will dictate to us here, because we are russia, not you to dictate, and we behave like a country that can be dictated to, we keep our deputations from traveling to taiwan all the time, we prevented the trip of the head of the committee on

international affairs of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, when it was already an almost announced unofficial visit, this.. . in that taiwan absolutely supports ukraine, and taiwan can be a source of supply of technology for ukraine, and taiwan is a country with a very influential lobby, let's say, among those republicans, american, favor that we are so looking for, and taiwan perfectly understands that if russia will solve the issue of ukraine's statehood, then taiwan will be next, it does not completely bypass us, only at some moments when zelensky is already seriously offended by shizen pin'. the question arises, not to go to taiwan for someone, then this china, the great chinese illusion appears again, and it all fades away, and what i get from this is that if you have a level of relations with taiwan, you can manage this level, it is managed conflict in relations with chinese partners, for example, when mr. sebiga tells a friend

wanyi: you know, here we have the speaker of the verkhovna rada going to taiwan with a trip. but if you do not hold this summit of your friends of peace, the vice-speaker will go instead of the speaker, then comrade wangyi will seriously think about whom he should invite to such meetings, so as not to get another defeat in his one-china policy , which is 100 times more important for china than 10 ukraine, so is this whole diplomatic game even worth such a loss in the asian one. the stikhakan basin, and if we talk to china all the time from the point of view of whatever we need to do to please them, i will tell you what we need to do to please china, to establish friendly, close relations with russia. federation, negotiate with the president of the russian federation vladimir putin on his terms, give him as much territory as he wants, announce his neutrality, demilitarization, denazification, then you

know everything, and you will have friendly relations with china, capitulate, in short, if you do not want to surrender, you will not have friendly relations with china, as long as you have not met with wang yidzenping, did not look at them with dreamy eyes, did not dream of any business interests in china, it will not matter, throw this stupidity out of your head, like all the previous stupidities that you had in your head before the fiasco february 24, 2022 year, that's what needs to be done, and we can't figure it out, by the way, because we don't judge february 24, 2022 as a fiasco, because if we told ourselves that the course that was chosen in 2019, which led to the election victory of volodymyr zelensky ended in a fiasco, not himself president, this is not a question for zelensky, even, but for supporters of this course. this is such a national fiasco, we believed that we could come to an agreement with putin, we tried to come to an agreement with him, he was preparing to attack us at that time, if we had assessed it as

a national fiasco, then we could have correctly developed our policy in relation to china, and if we all the time believe that this just happened, because it happened, we are victims, we are here for nothing, we have nothing to do with the development of events at all, that we are in political kindergarten all the time, where we are not responsible for anything, even for our own stupidity, then we will be new... mistakes will be made and china will take advantage of these mistakes, because china is a communist state with cynical leaders, in they have a completely different system of values ​​than the americans there or the europeans, they talk to you like kamela harris told donald trump about putin, so the chinese will definitely eat you for lunch, leave a piece for dinner, but what could be the consequences from such a senseless policy towards china... what, what, what can ukraine gain from this in the end? well, in part, you have already answered the question, but in general, we must explain to the audience, in the end, how about

russia, we saw what consequences we reaped, not only there, if we are talking about the 19th and 20th, but in general , in principle, after the restoration of independence, but china, what, what can we have at the exit, and i tell you... that we should now be interested in stopping the export of technology from the people's republic of china to russia federation, that is, we must act with a united front of the united states and, on the contrary, we must force european countries to introduce secondary sanctions against the people's republic of china. what can we get if we don't do this, and if when the americans talk about the chinese helping russia in ... armed, then we pretend that we don't see it and we don't hear it, and the americans look kind of hysterical in their eyes even ukrainians, europeans, well , of course, americans will say that, well, they do

just in a confrontation with china, and what we should pay attention to is that you understand how many people in the world who want to make money from china, especially in european countries, you saw how they all go there, as if to leave it is smeared with honey, macron, scholz, meloniga. can you imagine what kind of lobby china has in the world, i am already saying, even in ukraine, when i look even at some ukrainian experts who talk about china, i definitely understand in general what political course they follow and why, in our country, i would say now our entire information world and business world and so on is infiltrated by china in the same way it was infiltrated with russia, only with this difference that it can cost us statehood, so if we do nothing, china will not... kick, we do not introduce secondary sanctions, russia continues to develop its military-industrial complex, has new weapons, new shells, new unmanned aerial vehicles, new tanks, which means that it is fighting with us as much

as it needs for the final liquidation of ukrainian statehood, that's all we can mother, these are interrelated things, firstly, secondly, we must clearly understand that we are not a country of the global south and that the countries of the global south play no role in our survival at all, and that this is a game of numbers, some very childish game, how many ... countries support us, what's the difference, how many countries support you, it's important how many countries give you money, it's important how many countries give you weapons, not so much how many countries vote for you in the un, here's a simple example, how many countries vote in the un, now for the support of israel, not much, though, few, the majority vote against, there are many countries that abstain, a few countries in the united nations vote to support israel, so how did it help hassan nastral, this vote, don't you know? we fight all the time for this resolution of the un general assembly session, as if it matters from the point of view of our real survival, well, these countries will vote for

ours. support even when russian troops are stationed in uzhhorodka, it does not matter, our task is to ensure that there are no troops there, if even 60% of the countries the global south will not support, even 80, this is the problem of the countries of the global south, if they vote against us, relatively speaking, kazakhstan or azerbaijan or turkey, if they change their position, and for god's sake, they will not supply us with something there. some yurts are not invincible , they will not supply some humanitarian cargo, well , for god’s sake, it is better, of course, let it be supplied, but we will do without it, but without weapons, without missiles, without patriots, we will not do without, we will simply die, we don’t need to just call things by their names, diplomacy in the very idea that all the countries of the world will gather and tell putin that

he was getting out of ukraine is of zero importance to the war. has nothing to do with reality, because putin is the president of a nuclear country, he spat on all these countries together, he only understands the language of power, economic exhaustion, and we , with our illusions of a foreign policy nature, i would say not professionalism, actually give china the opportunity to be where it is, to create alternative plans, we always wanted to lure this china to this peace forum, remember? as if it would matter. well , vani would come there, well, by the way, a good illustration, here vani came to the meeting of the un security council, at which zelensky was present, came, came, spoke, spoke, what has changed, well, he would come to this peace forum, well i would also speak there, outline my chinese-brazilian plan, shake the hand of zelenskyi, the president of switzerland, and leave, what would have changed from his presence, nothing,

except some of ours. i'm glad that we still have china in our collection, well, it's not cars to collect, i say again, i don't see anything something bad about the peace forum, i always said that the peace forum from the point of view of diplomatic support for ukraine is an important thing, that we play our role in the international arena as a victim of aggression, but then let's not confuse it with the end of the war, i just i mean this, because it has nothing to do with each other, and about shit. yes, we, you have already forgotten, yes, you have already mentioned, you have already mentioned about hassan on strala, he became the actual target of the attack, eliminated, as well as the absolute majority of the leaders of hezbollah, in particular, in fact, we actually observed over the past few days, hundreds of strikes by israel on al-ezbola targets. on

the territory of lebanon, and today it was already officially confirmed that hassan nasrallah was eliminated by one and one of the strikes on these objects. mr. vitaly, we can say that hezbollah is over, will it actually continue to act, will it continue to take any action against israel, because in fact we... we have witnessed a very effective, fast, i would say, lightning operation of the state of israel against this de facto terrorist organization hezbollah, when practically all the leaders, both of the highest and middle ranks, but not all of them, have been liquidated, that i, as far as i understand,