this letter, which was sent by one of the ukrainian diplomats, on behalf of zelensky, to the name of trump, dear donald, we need to meet, talk, i really respect, all that, and it's as if zelensky is apologizing, admitting how great trump is, well , trump is ready to meet with him then after this letter, but i want to remind you that other heads of state did not have any problems and meeting with trump, no one made any claims to them, no one demanded. letters from them, no one published this official correspondence on social networks, the desire to humiliate in this way was only in relation to zelensky, to show that he should respect me there and understand how great i am, and what i did not lead, and what you did not lead, with the prime minister of great britain, keir starmer, it didn't happen, his teams arranged a meeting, agreed, they had dinner with the president of the united arab emirates, as you... you know, it didn't happen either,

he met with trump, it was a cordial meeting, trump didn't ask him any questions , although all these people, they met with biden, and with harris, that's it trump understands very well that ideologically, the prime minister of great britain is much closer to kamela harris than to him, but this did not stop him, trump in great britain is supported by completely different political forces, he supports nigel farage, he supported the most of them, i would say . inclined to the exit from the european union of the leaders of the conservatives , calmly eats dinner with kir starme, that is, he needed not just to meet with zelensky, but to show the dependence of zelensky on him before this meeting, and that he can even do something it is bad to talk about zelenskyi, to call him a salesman, to say that zelenskyi is spreading some dirty things about him in public, and zelenskyi will still ask for a meeting, it will not go anywhere, and that's it...

this is also his behavior towards zelenskyi to ukraine, who should simply give himself an account of the fact that he perceives it this way, that for him ukraine is such a subject or object that he can simply publicly despise and negotiate about ukraine , he can with putin, he about it actually also said during his election campaign that he would come to an agreement with putin, and he is on good terms with him, so he would come to an agreement with him. well, as they say, we have what we have. one more thing is very interesting. in fact, you and i already started talking about the victory plan, about the fact that at first it was very brilliantly announced, for a month in a row in the ukrainian information space, it was talked about, foreign media wrote about it, zelensky and ukrainian experts spoke about it personally, there are ukrainian politicians, yes, but you really... absolutely noticed that

the last two days of zelenskyi’s stay in the united states of america, at least today, are already about the victory plan, for some reason all these people either prefer not to mention, or at least try to smooth out mentions of him, and in that at the same time, a number of western, american, in particular publications are saying that the united states was not satisfied, or the united states of america... was not satisfied with this victory plan, that the white house was also quite skeptical of this victory plan, in particular the writes about it wall street journal, and you really mentioned it, what was the point of going with this plan of victory then, if you and i were talking, and in principle, before that , information appeared in the foreign press that, well, we apologize, but all these points, they are practically unreal.

to implementation at least now, and now we observe that we really have to put this whole issue to rest, as they say, put the brakes on and now, probably, try to talk about it much less, here is the question, why was it all done, and the second question, that's all anyway, do you think the ukrainian authorities are going to mention and force this issue in the future? shall we forget about it, throw all these things into such an informational dustbin and talk about something next? well , of course, this is a plan of information measures, which, it seems to me, is designed not so much for western partners, but for ukrainian society, so that ukrainian socialists there understand a simple thing, and this is dangerously enough, by the way, zelensky will go to the united states, offer a plan , the plan is calculated until the end...

of president biden's term of office, they will quickly give us everything we need, they can't help but give it, and the war will end in a few months, and... otherwise, well, again, when they said that this plan is a plan for the current administration, it’s just that zelensky wants to introduce trump, trump and harveys to him, then it looked very strange to me, incredibly strange, but for people, you, if you understand, for people who are used to perceiving information measures of the authorities as a political reality, this does not look strange, and you can see for real that many people they say, listen, well, in another month , the war will end, why... buy these inverters there for houses, why, why send the child somewhere to school in places of temporary accommodation, when in a month we will move anyway, the war will be over, you have you not seen or encountered such situations? well, this is actually, mr. vitaly,

and it is the biggest problem that we are essentially misleading people in this way, that is, in my opinion, in my opinion. yes, in my subjective opinion, i think it's better for people to tell the truth as it is, because the situation turns out that then we fool people in something, they count on something or don't count on something, don't plan their life correctly, and then get even more disappointed, and we talked about this with you last time and the time before last, that people should understand how they should build their lives at least there for three months, six months, a year, two years, if they... don't do that, they will then face the further disappointment of being told every month, listen, all in a month the war will end in two in three, six months, well, it probably won't have a positive effect there on the same energy efficiency, on education that you mentioned, on people's lives in general, on

their planning, i'm sorry, of family life, employment, their place of residence. mr. andriy, the most important thing, because if i believe that the war will end in two months, the question arises, why should i go to the armed forces now, and risk my life in the last two months, when it is still clear that everything is coming to a finalization, well, that's how it is, but you know, it's from our point of view, but it is possible to apply another point of view, as you understand, which will consist in the fact that people have a short memory, especially during such critical events, and each time they are from faith, from a new faith at the end of the war , they switch to a new faith, but now the victory plan did not work, and they have already

forgotten about it, as you rightly say, we still remember it, it is almost absent in the information space. zelensky returned from the united states, talked with biden there, talked with gaius, talked with... trump, everyone talked to him, and it's true, it's a reality, he met with the current president, with the candidates for the post of president of the united states, which was supposed to be the political content of this visit, not a victory plan. it all just happened, what had to happen, because the plan for 40 days before the presidential election of the united states, none of them will work, none of them. oh, now there will be other important events, ramstein, the summit of the four, yes, the peace summit on... for example, yes, now you can prepare the peace summit, and say, there will be a second peace summit, there, remember, it wanted to hold before the presidential elections in the united states, they also seriously talked about it, that it should be held before the presidential elections in the united states, and i

also cannot understand in any way, and why, and for what, and what is the point, but seriously about this they said, absolutely, well, here is the answer to your question, that means there will be a new... information plan, and if we live in this world of information activities of the office of the president of ukraine, and our main idea will not be how to survive during years of endless war, how to convince us people, to convince people every time that it is about to end, then this basically means that we are talking to people like small children who do not need to plan anything for the future. who just have to live off the money in a fairy tale, and the main thing is that this fairy tale does not end, the main thing is not to lead to a situation when they suddenly find out that for this saint nicholas does not exist, can you imagine, there is no need to bring them to such disappointment, saint nicholas is here,

he will bring gifts, the war will end in a month, if it did not end in november, so it ends in january, well, remember that in 2022... the president, during his address to the citizens of the first on the night of december 31 of the 22nd year, on january 1 of the 23rd year, said to me: well, in the 23rd year, yes . how it can't be in the 22nd, i couldn't understand why he says that, which means it can't, in the 23rd year it can be worse than in the 22nd and the 24th worse than the 23rd, this is a war, a multi-year war in some new year can be worse than in the previous one, why set people up for this, even on new year's eve, but sometimes it seems to me, you know, that the president himself believes in this, that we are talking about some information measures, and the problem may be in the reality in which... the president himself is, that it is easier for him to find himself in this reality, that if he will give himself an account

of where he actually ended up as a result of his actions, as a person, i don't have, as a head of state, but as a person as a result of the fact that he decided to change his career from an actor to a political one, he will be much more difficult to fulfill his duties, because he will all the time asking myself questions, well, how did this happen to me, well, why, i should have... understood, and it seems to me that the president should be in such a shape that he, as much as he can, as much as he is capable from the point of view of effectiveness, for him to protect the state interests of ukraine, because again, you and i do not have any opportunities to elect a new government, which means that for as many years as the war will continue, there is an option that this government, even in an imperfect form, because she is against any national government unity, will exist, and that zelensky will have to fulfill his duties as head of state, maybe for another 5-7 years, i don't know, again, i won't say that the war will continue for 5-7 years, but it could be... be, we have to tell people again that there are no political prerequisites for ending this war, there are none, if

military-technical ones arise, then for this we need to do a lot, to stop russia, to survive infrastructural problems, to create a situation in which russia will not be able to economically continue the war, we from the west has it to create, and it is not just one year, as you understand, and certainly not just one day, so this power must be effective. "if we can't, we believe that resettlement into the world of reality, it hits the psyche not only of citizens as such, but also of the president of ukraine himself, well, what is he like, i would say, a vivid model of an average ukrainian, well, maybe for him that is why the people voted that he is like them, and not like these politicians, whom they did not want to see at the head of the state, then maybe you and i would also be more comfortable not to tear the world president out of his own illusions, it's just a question, i don't know. i don't have an answer to this question, actually i also wonder why we

constantly find some excuses, at least to talk about what in principle, in theory cannot be, or what will not be in theory, but unfortunately, you see , we are talking about it. by the way, another topic that we never discussed in the security block, but which directly concerns and in particular these visits to the united states... of america, is the possibility of hitting the enemy's territory deep with long-range missiles, or any with missiles, it is 300, 400, 500 km away, it doesn't matter, but hit the enemy's territory, his infrastructural facilities, his logistical facilities, military facilities, that is, everything that should stop the russians battlefield, two weeks. at least this informational process lasted, again red tape, for two

weeks we expected that there would be such a permission, but we did not receive this permission even after zelensky's visit, at least officially, and at least we do not have such applications, examples of such applications so far, still anyway, why is biden hesitating in this case? biden is hesitating, the biden administration is hesitating, and accordingly the united states of america is hesitating to give such an opportunity to ukraine even now, or is it possible that biden is waiting for the presidential elections to take place, i also have a theory that maybe he is not wants to do it before the conditional x-day, in order not to give, for example, trump himself some... trumps in his hands, yes, informational trumps, there may also be an opinion, whether it is possible that these

things will be carried with such baggage to a new one administration, relatively speaking, in your opinion, we have been discussing this for so many days, and there is still no definitive answer as to why we did not receive permission to strike on the territory of russia, which would have at least partially... the enemy's offensive, which you and i are talking about number of people said, well, first of all, i really agree with you completely that if i were in biden's place, i would not make any sharp decisions. on those issues that are part of the election campaign, if trump says during the election campaign that if they give permission to ukraine to attack the russian territory with our missiles, then they will thus create the conditions for the third world war, and i will save you from the third world war, then you should definitely not make any decisions that will benefit this statement, and by the way, i think that when

volodymyr putin is changing the nuclear doctrine, he is also interfering in the american elections, that is... he actually confirms trump's words with his actions. so, at least until november 5, you are absolutely right, you need to get not only permits, but also any actions in this direction. secondly, i am inclined to of the opinion that there will be no public permission for ukraine to attack the territory of russia with western missiles at all. but the russian allies do not give any permission to russia. we simply find there fragments of iranian shaheds or north korean missiles. but no one in tehran speaks up and says: we allowed them to hit ukraine with our shaheds, on the contrary, the president of iran says that we never supplied anything, and we even condemn russia's aggression against ukraine, as masoud petuchkiyan said at the session of the general assembly un, let's talk. and why then? ukraine's western allies should make public statements? that is, such a situation can

be, and i think that it continues to be discussed. i do not think that if in this question. had not been considered, the secretary of state antony blinkin and the minister of foreign affairs of great britain david lemina would have come to kyiv, there would not have been this long meeting between starmer and biden, in the end there would not have been this dinner between starmer and trump. such issues are usually discussed precisely during such meetings, this is absolutely for me an obvious thing, but in any case i allow that the final decision is made. if it will happen at all, it will be during this summit of four in germany and during ramstein at the level of leaders, it can be discussed there again, whether it will affect the adoption of this decision, this latest escapade of putin, yes, i will tell you honestly, it can affect,

maybe, as far as i don't know, if it affects the decision at all. the number of missiles that we have at our disposal, this is also a very good question, what kind of arsenal we can operate now, and what is the number that we have there are us, even if it is applied on the territory of the russian federation, it will change the military-technical course of the war, that is, if we formulate this formula correctly, andriy, how political risks are worth the military-technical effect, if not, then maybe... . it is necessary - the western leaders will tell you, they can proceed from this complex of issues, which is undoubtedly the subject of their constant discussions when they meet among themselves, but the fact that they do not leave this issue is also obvious to me . well, in particular, new the york times, as recently as friday, that is, yesterday

, i found it, i found it had just specially written an article about the fact that the intelligence of the united states... of america stated the risks due to possible strikes by ukraine on the territory of russia, this is about what mr. vitaliy just said , that they will also calculate, and whether it should be done or not from the point of view of some certain expediency, the number of missiles there, the possibility of hitting targets with these missiles, why the us intelligence supposedly thinks so, because russia... has already carried out some part of his aviation, some of their warehouses or something else, already to a more distant territory, accordingly , they believe that in fact the potential risk is greater than the potential benefit, but at least there is such information, here, here,

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them. however, it was not enough to know what was happening. need understand. antin borkovskii and invited experts soberly assess the events, analyze them, modeling our future. every saturday at 13:10 with a repeat on sunday at 10:10. studio zahid with anton borkovsky. we are returning to the saturday political club pryamii eter, andriy smolii and vitaly portnikov, and from one diplomacy, from one part of the world, we will move to another, no less important, in fact. there are still other opinions, and there is still another position, or rather not one, the position of a whole number of states regarding the so- called peace plan, this time already in our country

chinese or brazilian diplomacy, and they are joined by hungary, and we see that even switzerland, china and brazil are gathering their own group of supporters of their plan, and we see that, unexpectedly, the plan is supported by switzerland, in particular. they stated that they also see the possibility of actually participating in such a peaceful initiative, moreover, even we are not surprised by this, but viktor orbán, the prime minister of hungary, also essentially said that he is ready to join this informal group china, brazil, or the global south, and what is offered in china. they, in particular, onei offers the following formula: first negotiations, or rather, i apologize, first a ceasefire, then

negotiations and refraining from sanctions, that is, such a triad. mr. vitaliy, i have a question for you regarding this plan, can this plan be considered to play into putin's hands? and what game are china and brazil playing now against the background of the same elections in the usa and the same plans presented by ukraine and our allies? well, by the way, this is the answer to the question, how much we have played this game ourselves with a large number of countries that should support our peace formula, how important are these representative international forums to us, do we not think that someone else can go? to hold, because we understand that when, on the eve of the first peace forum, china refused to participate in it, instead, the ministry of foreign affairs of this country organized

such a large international tour of its special representative lihui to the countries of the global south, then in this situation it naturally became clear that in china has alternative agenda, and when wang yi and brazil's top adviser to the president, celsua marie, agreed that it would not be... just a chinese plan, but a sino-brazilian plan, it was already clear that china wanted to give it at least a major international alternative. and this seems to me to be understood in kyiv from the rostrum of the session of the un general assembly, volodymyr zelensky condemned this plan, called it non-constructive, it is also, i would say, such a rather unexpected decision for diplomacy that if you want to build some kind of relations with china there, you sure do not condemn his peaceful initiatives from the rostrum of the session of the general assembly, but this is , by and large, zelensky's style to say from high rostrums what he considers to be true and real, that's how he works, so, again, the question here is not about zelensky ,

the question about shizen ping, of course, means what do you want shizen ping, he wants to demonstrate once again that there are two worlds, there is the world of the west, which imposes sanctions, and there is the world of the global south, which can save anyone from these sanctions , if you are good a partner of this global south, and the way iran exists and the way russia exists, it again... demonstrates this history, it shows that there is a world in which one group of countries does not maintain relations with a conflicting party , it is the united states and the european union that broke off relations with russia, and there is a world in which they try to talk to everyone, and by the way, we ourselves, i would say, also from our love of purity and a rather childish understanding of reality, give china such an opportunity, because look, wanyi is gathering this group of friends of peace, right? with on the other hand, he comes to the meeting of the un security council, which was organized usually for volodymyr zelensky, so that he could make a clear speech about his

peace formula, about his vision. of peace, and vanya speaks there, despite the fact that the representative of russia at the un security council, not bendzia, calls the meeting a theater, a performance for zelenskyi, but vanya takes part in it, that is, shows that it is not a performance for zelenskyi, and he is ready to participate in events held with the participation of zelensky, then wang yi meets with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine andriy scebigo and, most importantly, the real head of ukrainian diplomacy andriy yarmak, because we understand that in our conditions there is no minister of foreign affairs. the chief diplomat, the chief diplomat in our country is the head of the president's office, and the minister of foreign affairs is the manager of his own ministry, and so too, so if everyone sees that he is not just talking to sebiga, but to yermak , that is, there is a conversation at the level of leaders, so that ivan is not only the minister of foreign affairs, but the head of the party office of foreign policy, this is approximately the position that yermak actually holds, but if you cannot find an analogue of yermak's position, then it is wang yi, head of the international office of the central committee of the communist party of china. so

, it is clear that the ukrainians also want to talk with china, and the russians want to, because at the same session they meet with sergey lavrov, they have a friendly meeting, and then who are the friends of peace, the americans or the chinese, well, of course the chinese, if they talk to those and those and they want to do business with them, then an alternative track is created, and here again , there are already many participants at this meeting of friends of peace, that is, i am not surprised that hungary is there. because i would say so, there is polarization, and you really have to be the first to catch this chinese boat, because the next ones may simply not be taken, they will not be needed, that's why turkey, that's why switzerland, that's why hungary, and switzerland that is he doing there? switzerland is a neutral country, if it maintains neutrality, it should be a participant in all formats, this is their logic of foreign policy, kazakhstan, pakistan, pakistan, why, therefore

what... india is not in this format, so pakistan wants to be in good relations with china, it thinks that china should be its main partner in the conditions when india is getting closer to the united states, there is pakistan, and yes, and you can say that about every country, but i assure you, if china decides to gather a large representative forum of these friends of peace, there will be about as many countries as there were at our summit, because it will be like... let's say like participation in in the peace forum was by and large a show of affection for the civilized world, to america, to the group of seven, so this forum of friends of peace will be a manifestation of affection for china, and speaking between us, we will have a big dilemma if we avoid this format, call it non-constructive, and russia there goes, then all the diplomatic results

of our peace forum will be nullified by china, because almost the whole world will gather without the united states, without canada, without the european union, but all the others, those whom we wanted to see all the time for reasons i do not understand , here they are everyone will go there, and the russians will come there, we will not be there, and everyone will say, well, who wants peace, ukraine is simply not an independent state, when the americans... told it to go, they went to switzerland, now the americans, when it really came close really peace, then they didn’t go anywhere, and if we go, as you understand, it will also be a diplomatic disaster, because we will end up at the same table with the russians, when we did not invite them, but when they invited us together with them, as such two brawlers, who must be measured, this will be a clear equalization of the victim aggressor, and of course, it will not happen under the conditions that the ukrainian society thinks about, it is also, by the way,

a big problem... which you must always remember, andrii, that any negotiations and any , if you imagine a cease -fire, it will not end as most of our compatriots think, if there will be any peace terms at all, then they may be difficult for the majority of ukrainians to perceive, and we are not preparing for this either, because we still have people living here in the situation we decide what kind of peace will be, we are fighting now, and if we decide, then the peace will be what we want, that is one problem, but of course china... is playing its own game, and i keep saying that we will not succeed on these two to sit on the chairs, because these two chairs are over, that there are two worlds, the world, relatively speaking, of america, the european union, the world of this group of seven, and the world of the global south, the biggest problem is when you fall out of one of the worlds, you fall out of both worlds, this is...