ukrainian society, this is also, by the way, a big problem that you should always remember, andriy, that any negotiations and any - even if you imagine a ceasefire, it will not end the way most of our compatriots think, if at all there will be some peace terms, then they may be difficult for the majority of ukrainians to perceive, and we are not preparing for this either, because our people still live in a situation where we decide what peace will be, but we are now fighting, and if we decide, then there will be peace such as we have we want this is one problem, but of course, china is playing its own game, and i keep saying that we will not be able to sit on these two chairs, because these two chairs are over, that there are two worlds, the world, relatively speaking, of america, the european union, the world of this group of seven, and the world of the global south, the biggest problem when you fall out of one world, you fall out of both worlds, that's it. this is a real problem, it

used to be called a multi-vector foreign policy, but on the other hand, when there was a multi-vector foreign policy during the kuch era, we understand, we were simply in the sphere of influence of russia and thus played in some kind of multi-vectority, had some kind of relationship with the west to a certain, at least economic border, well, now everything, now everything is clear, everything that happens from this situation, that is, either or we will achieve peace through the west. or we will achieve peace with the help of china, but each time it will not be the kind of peace that we consider the most comfortable for ourselves, and that's all, by the way, the political publication came out with a publication that ukraine is allegedly sending some secret letters , well, secret ones, no secret, no longer secret, if a politician writes about it, but less so and asks the country not to support the peace plan. china, i don't know

to what extent, well, how china sent letters and asked not to support the peace formulas of ukraine, uh, remember, and and and in addition, anthony blinken, secretary of state of the united states of america, at the meeting with wang, whom we also mentioned , stated that china's talk about peace in ukraine is at odds with actions, including there was also information from blinken that... about two-thirds machine tools, which, of course, are then used for the production of weapons and 90% of microcircuits, microelectronics, that is, what is used to produce missiles, shahedis, others, there are cabs, the same ones that hit our borders, on in sumy, in kharkov, in zaporizhzhia, 90% is actually imported by russia from... china, but that's not

all. in the current week, information appeared, including in the western media, that on the territory of china, russia has allegedly established some kind of joint production of drones, and these drones are either already delivered or will be supplied to the territory of russia in the future for the war with ukraine. that is, you see, there is already a direct statement from the secretary of state. the usa has direct data there, how much is being supplied, there is parallel information that china is actually arming russia, and if indeed there is information that there is a joint production of drones there, that there are some russian weapons production facilities on the territory of china, this essentially means that i no longer just indirectly support china. in the war

is not just a so-and-so country, which sits on two chairs, but in fact is the state that de facto provides russia with lethal weapons, so how do you comment on this whole mass of information that we have, both from officials and from the mass media? well, i have a counter question, this is what the united states secretary of state, that is, the head of the country's diplomatic mission, is talking about. which no one attacked, but how does ukraine behave with the chinese? when the president of ukraine was asked if he knew about the supply of weapons to china to russia, he said that he did not have any weapons delivered and not delivered, and that it was promised to him by zenpin, ugh, that is, president zelensky is still proud of his phone conversation with zenpin, as the highest diplomatic achievement, because we in dolsi's ruling circles have an illusion that sooner or later china will solve us with russia. .. to die

on good terms, we will agree with him, he will give us money, in all these illusions, these people continue to live, this is when dmytro kuliba met and called her in guangzhou, and now, when i... from the ukrainian side in general questions about supply companies were publicly raised china has at least dual technologies. we behave with the chinese like people who really want to please comrade wan'i, and under no circumstances say no to him that will make him uncomfortable. here is an important moment of this trouble, the first such one of the first, which occurred, is the criticism of china by the president of ukraine at the session of the general assembly of the united nations. this is not china, but a chinese plan, exclusively a chinese plan, but no one criticizes chinese policy. this is what blinkin says, zelensky should say, tsibig should say, vanya, it should be in the press service of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine that

the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine asked the minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china about supplying russia with technologies that can be used in the war against ukraine and emphasized that no china's peacemaking efforts cannot be considered fruitful if china helps with its industrial role in the continuation of the military-industrial complex of the russian federation. it all sounds not. we are now with china we behave the way we behaved with russia at one time. god forbid, in meetings with russian officials, say something that they will not like. after 2019, when it is clear that we cannot say what they don't like, at least not to mention their surnames, but no matter how the president of ukraine from 2019 did not mention putin's surname in a negative context or in any context, he now does not mention the name of

swedzenpin, and it would seem, but we already see that such a policy has undergone an absolute fiasco, once, we continue it again, well, what can i do, i can't... rework the brains of people who make decisions. so this is reality. this reality, by the way, applies to many things in terms of approaches to china. if you remember, i have been explaining since 2022 that if you want to have any serious relationship with china at all, you should not treat it as if you are a potential colony of china, because you are only whetting its appetite, as you did before this whetted russia's appetite. you can do business with china only when you pursue a policy of strong partnership, that is, if... that is why don't we discover in ourselves, i said in 2022, at least the representation of this taipei economic commission, which works in every better capital of the civilized country in the world, which is in warsaw, which is in moscow, for many decades, and nothing china and russia ,

as you can see, will not fall down on this matter, because russia has shown that it can support economic relations with taiwan, and let china avoid it, it recognizes the one-china policy, but economic relations, you will not dictate to us here, because we russians... you don't dictate to us, but we behave yes, as a country that can be dictated to, we keep our deputies from traveling to taiwan all the time, we prevented the trip of the head of the committee on international affairs of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, when it was already an almost announced unofficial visit, despite the fact that taiwan absolutely supports ukraine , and taiwan can be a source of technology supply for ukraine, and taiwan is a country with a very influential lobby, let's say. those republican, american, favors that we are so looking for, and taiwan perfectly understands what if russia will solve the issue of ukraine's statehood, then taiwan will be next, it doesn't completely bypass us, only at some moments, when zelensky is already seriously offended by

these jiangpins, the question arises, instead of going to taiwan for someone, then this great china appears again the chinese illusion and all that fades away, and my premise was that if... you have a level of relations with taiwan, you can manage that level, it's a managed conflict in relations with chinese partners, let 's say when mr. sebiga says to comrade vani, you know, here we have the speaker of the verkhovna rada going to taiwan with a trip, but if you don't hold this summit of your friends of peace, the vice-speaker will go, not the speaker, then vani will seriously think about who to invite to such meetings in order not to receive a new defeat in this policy of one china, which for china is 100 times more important than 10 ukraines, so is this whole diplomatic game even worth such

a loss in the asian-texas basin, and if we all the time we talk to china from the point vision, what should we do to please them, then i will tell you what must be done to please them. establish friendly, close relations with the russian federation, negotiate with the president of the russian federation vladimir putin on his terms, give him as much territory as he wants, announce his neutrality. denazification, then you know everything, and you will have friendly relations with china, surrender, in short, if you do not want to surrender, you will not have friendly relations with china, as long as you have not met wang sit down, don’t look at them with dreamy eyes, don’t dream about some of your business interests in china, it won’t matter, throw this stupidity out of your head, like all the previous stupidities that you had in your head before the fiasco of february 24, 2022, so what needs to be done, and we can't figure it out, by the way, because... we don't judge february 24 , 2022 as a fiasco, because if we told ourselves that the course that was chosen in 2019

, which led to the victory in the elections of volodymyr zelenskyi, the fiasco ended, not the president himself, this issue is not in zelenskyi’s hands even, and the supporters of this course, this is such a national fiasco, we believed that it was possible to come to an agreement with putin, we tried to persuade him, at that time he was preparing to attack us if... we assessed it as a national fiasco, then we could correctly build our policy towards china, and if we all the time believe that it just happened that way, because it happened, we are victims, we have nothing to do with it, we have absolutely nothing to do with the development of events, that we are in political kindergarten all the time we are where we are not responsible for anything, even for our own stupidity, then we will make new mistakes, and china will take advantage of these mistakes, because china is a communist state with cynical leaders, they have a completely different system than the americans there or europeans, they will say to you, as kamela harris said to donald trump about

putin, the chinese will definitely eat you for lunch and leave a piece for dinner, but what could be the consequences of such a ridiculous policy towards china, what what what eventually can ukraine get anything negative from this? well, you have already partially answered the question, but in general. we have to explain to the audience, after all, how about russia, we saw the consequences, we reaped, not only there, if we are talking about the 19th and 20th, but in general, in principle, after the restoration of independence, i will tell you in why, what, what can we have at the exit, and i will tell you that we should now be interested in stopping the export of technology from the people's republic of china to russia. that is, we have to act with united front by the united states and we should

, on the contrary, force european countries to introduce secondary sanctions against the people's republic of china. what can we get if we do not do this, and if when the americans talk about the fact that the chinese are helping russia with armaments, then we pretend that we do not see or hear this, and the americans look somewhat hysterical in the eyes of even ukrainians, europeans, an ordinary canoe... the americans will say that, well, they are just in a confrontation with china, and what should we turn to this attention, do you understand how many people in the world want to make money in china, especially in european countries, you saw how they all go there, as if they were smeared with honey, macron, scholz, melons, you can imagine what about the lobby in china in the world about, i am already saying, even in ukraine, when i look even at some ukrainian experts who talk about... ask, i definitely understand in general what political course they follow and why, in our country,

i i would say, now our entire informational world, business and so on, has been infiltrated china as it was infiltrated with russia, only from this difference that it can cost us statehood, which means that if we do nothing, we do not stop china, we do not introduce secondary sanctions, russia continues to build up its military-industrial complex, have a new weapons, new projectiles, new drones, new tanks, that means... she is fighting us as much as she needs for the final liquidation of ukrainian statehood, but all we can have are interconnected things, first, second, we have clearly understand that we are not a country of the global south and that the countries of the global south do not play any role in our survival at all, and that this is a game of numbers, some very childish game, how many countries support us, what is the difference, how many countries support you, it is important, how many countries give you money, it is important , how many countries give you weapons, not as many as how many countries vote for you in the un, here is a simple example, how many countries vote in the un, now in support of israel,

no how many, however, not many, the majority votes against, there are many countries, who abstained, voted to support israel just a few countries in the united nations, right? how did this vote help hasan nastral, don't you know? we fight all the time for this resolution, the session of the un general assembly, as if it matters from the point of view of our reality. survival, well, these countries will vote for our support, even when russian troops are stationed in uzhhorodka, it does not matter, our task is to ensure that there are no troops there, if even 60% of countries globally. the south will not support, even 80, this is the problem of the countries of the global south, if against us will vote, conditionally speaking, kazakhstan or azerbaijan or turkey, if they change their position, well, for god's sake, they won't deliver something to us there, some yurts, no

, they won't deliver some humanitarian goods, well, for god's sake, of course, let it be delivered, but we will do without it, but we will not do without weapons, without missiles, without patriots, we will simply die, one should not just call a spade a spade, diplomacy in war has zero meaning, the very idea that all the countries of the world will gather and they will say for putin, the fact that he got away from ukraine has nothing to do with reality, because putin is the president of a nuclear country, he spat on all these countries together, he only understands the language of the power of economic exhaustion. and we, with our illusions of a foreign policy nature, i would say, not professionalism, actually give china the opportunity to be where it is, to create alternative plans, we always wanted to lure this china to this peace forum, remember? as if it had any significance, well, i would come there in ani, well, by the way, a good illustration,

vani came to the meeting of the un security council, which was attended by zelensky. he came, he came, he spoke, he spoke, what would have changed, well , he would have come to this peace forum, well, he would have also spoken there, he would have left his chinese, brazilian plan, he would have shaken the hand of zelensky, the president of switzerland, and he would have left, what would have changed from his presence , nothing, except for some of our satisfaction that we still have china in the collection, well, it's not cars to collect, i say again, i don't see anything wrong with the peace forum, i always said: that the peace forum from the point of view of diplomatic support of ukraine is an important thing, that we play our role in the international arena as a victim of aggression, but then let's not confuse it with the end of the war, i only mean that, because it has nothing to do with each other, and about nasrali, and we, you have eaten,

and you have already eaten, you have already mentioned about hassan nasrali, became. in fact, the target of the attack was eliminated, as well as the absolute majority of the leaders of hezbollah, in particular, in fact, in fact, we observed during the last several days of hundreds of strikes by israel on the targets of ezbola in the territory of lebanon, and today it was already officially confirmed that hassan nasrallah was eliminated. one and only one of the strikes on these objects, mr. vitaly, we can claim that hezbollah is the end, will it actually continue to act, will it continue to take some action against israel, because in fact we have witnessed a very effective, fast, i would

i would say lightning operation. these states of israel against this de facto terrorist organization of hezbollah, when essentially liquidated almost all managers, both top and middle level, well, not all of them, it should be said that i, as far as i understand, this is the head of the executive committee of nastral hachem sofia din, he is alive, he can become the new head of the organization, what in such an organization there is always someone. after, but after such insignificant strikes, is there a future for this organization, or will we see a de-escalation in the north of israel, and we will see that its influence on the territory of lebanon begins to decline sharply. well, look, this organization, it exists precisely because in lebanon has a radicalized shiite population,

like hamas exist because there is a redlocalized palestinian population in the gas sector, while such organizations have a social. the basis is the money that iran gives, they will certainly establish it. another issue is combat resources. basically, let's think, hassan nasrallah became the head of this organization in 1992, right? how many years has it been? 32 years, or 33, do you think, during this time the israeli special services had the opportunity to eliminate him? and why not? well, but they don't did although i think that there were much easier ways to eliminate hassan shit than hitting this bunker with these famous bombs that can penetrate the bunker. the problem is that. that there have always been certain red lines in the middle east that allowed us to live in the conditions, i would say, in the management of the conflict, after october 7, 2023

, these lines, they are destroyed, and therefore everything is happening in completely new conditions, and therefore no one knows what will happen tomorrow, and i can't tell you what hezbollah is there. will cease to exist, or it will lead to de-escalation situation, i think that this can lead to a de-escalation of the situation for only one reason, if hezbollah now definitely does not have a control center and arsenals for strikes on israel, if it turns out that the death of the leaders will not have much effect on this, then there will be an israeli ground operation in lebanon. israel does all this with one really real goal, it does not want to stretch the front. in a situation where he cannot end the gas war, when all these goals of ending the gas war, they move from week by week because there is no peace agreement,

no appeasement, no hostage release, none of that, and we're already approaching october 7, 2024, it's a few days away, it's a year of war, it's not just a lot for the middle east, it's a lot a lot, a year of active hostilities, as you understand, and israel as a state has never existed in such a situation, we do not even know how it will continue to exist, how it will affect the safety of the population, the readiness of the people, repatriation to israel, on their own readiness israelis are in this country, people are used to the fact that this happens every other week, that they are safe, that just such a clash of the army, everything stops, here people understand what it will do to them... to live like ukrainians for years, and so think, netanyahu is doing all this because he wants to return people to the north, to hiria chmana, metula, other cities

and settlements, all these people, they have become internal refugees in a small country, and imagine what you have to stelavi to kiel chmana, well, how much is 2.5 hours to drive there, maybe less, and you cannot go home, it is not the distance between donetsk and kyiv or from. to kyiv, this is the distance from the white church to kyiv, relatively speaking, well, well, to the white church, well, cherkas, no cherkas - it’s even too much, probably still a white church, but imagine that you have a house in white church, and you are somewhere in a shelter in tel aviv or freaks in kyiv, and you cannot go to the white church, how do you feel, how safe do you feel in such a country, we have a large territory here, a person can from the shelled kharkov, if she feels... in danger to go to kyiv or to ternopil and it is safer there, but it is a long distance, you drive a long distance, here you don't drive anything, well

, i don't know how to explain it, but i used to go there from shmana to tel aviv during the day , going back and forth when i needed to, and when i lived near kiryachmanaya for a month, so i can imagine very well, no, i think that our viewers can imagine this if we take one region at a time, let's say the kyiv region. and there to the white church or to pereyaslov, that is , of course you can imagine, because in reality israel is somewhere approximate in size, as it seems to me, like one and a half of our region, that one important thing still needs to be understood, that you live in this kyiv region, but if you enter, relatively speaking, in the conditions of... some area in this region, you can be killed there, you should avoid this area, because there are people living there who are ready to kill you, literally, without telling you something bad, but just to kill you, well, you know

that in principle you are guaranteed safety in such conditions, and now it is difficult to say, so of course the israeli government is making efforts, but i repeat again that since all these red lines have been destroyed, i do not know how these efforts will end, to be honest with you, that is, of course in ... the gift of hasano nastral is a serious crossing of all the red lines that existed in israel's relations with these proxy armies of iran. now everything, you are absolutely right, mr. andriy, depends on how much you understand their military potential. if this military potential is not there, if they have to rebuild all theirs now. organizational character, military potential, if hezbollah's influence in lebanon decreases, it's a completely different story, because then they will even think about

the gas sector at all, because they see it all the time. that they should besiege israel, and yes, if they don't really have the resources, that's the same formula that i offered you when we talked about russia, if iran doesn't have the resources to rebuild and maintain these proxies armies, then iran will have to think at least about a pause, about restoring its forces and about political opportunities and so on, and you understand that hezbollah is also a big social. this is an organization that distributed money to the poor population of lebanon, the shiites, so these people do not understand at all how they will live, because they are used to paratizing with the help of hesbla, that is, on the one hand , hesbla turned lebanon into a state in which there is no work and prospects, there is nothing political, you know that the president has not been there for 600 days, and now there is one of the lebanese politicians, who, of course, who all expressed

incredible regret over the death of such a person. a great patriot like asan nasrallah, he said: our answer to the assassination of nasrallah should be the election of the president of lebanon, and this same nostrala did everything possible so that there would be no president of lebanon, that was his idea, what is the purpose of a president of lebanon if there is no president of lebanon , who is the real leader of lebanon? hassan nasrela, what about the government of lebanon, here we are talking, now there will be a government meeting, and what is the significance of a government meeting when these ministers do not have any functions, did not have, at least until today, when in the lebanese army... there are fewer military personnel than in the army of hezbollah, you understand, that is, they led to the degeneration of the entire state, once the people of a different religion, lebanese christians, sunnis, muslims, druze, have found themselves in this state virtually subjugated to their influence and are now forced to express false regret for the death of a person whom they all hate, this

too must be understood, they hate, but... they are afraid to say it because they hostages in fact, the entire population of iran is not shiite, they are hostages of this terrorist gang, but moderate shiites, even more hostages, because they are afraid to say a word, lest they be killed, here is the speaker of the lebanese parliament in big beeddi, he is the leader of another shiite party, amal, but the problem is that he was the leader of this amal all his life, and hezbollah appeared after the radical forces from this party left amali, that is, they are schismatics of his party, he hates them. but is forced to say that he suffers greatly from about the shit that he kicked out of his own party, killed by an israeli rocket, that's the whole story from lebanon, so we'll see how it all develops, it's a very complicated story, and we see that the israeli government is going to desperate steps, trying not to globalize this war in the middle east, what he will do, i don't know, especially as you can see, there is still arab influence, and we were talking about the session

of the general... the un assembly, you know that at the session of the un general assembly, saudi arabia, we talked about what it does china and brazil, and saudi arabia, which china and brazil want to invite to their platform of friends, it is creating another coalition, a coalition for a two-party solution to the middle east problem, it wants to involve in this coalition as many countries as possible that will agree with the reality of creating of the palestinian state, and now china... brazil is forced to exchange its friends of peace for participation in this coalition, and this is also a problem for israel, because you saw that it is impossible to say that israel now occupies such the obvious positions of the international community, which we would allow ourselves to easily feel on the international arena, no, it does not take, and this is also a new situation for israel, when it does not enjoy obvious support even in the countries of the west, not that there in the countries of the global south, that's right, but

what is the position of the three states that i will name, it is clear, iran, and what iran can actually do, because there have been another threat from the vice president of iran, we see that there is another sometimes some kind of revenge is announced, the next time they tell that that's all there will be the end of israel, well, we already know these scarecrows, we haven't heard anything else yet. the position of the turkish language, or maybe they heard, maybe i didn't hear, they heard, erdogan condemned israel, maybe i didn't hear, because erdogan, we, yes, we remember the howl that arose after the actual operation against hamas, against terrorists, and what in general erdoğan arranged there, and in turkey, what were the rallies, and by the way.