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the official pages of the sbu. so, we will continue to talk about zaporizhzhia, deputy of the zaporizhzhia district council alisa sysoeva is in touch with us. ms. alisa, glory to you ukraine. glory to the heroes, congratulations, we know a huge amount about 10 cabs, and for zaporizhzhia - this is still very, very new. what are the consequences? already in polyutka, the police made public the number 13. 13 strikes in zaporizhzhia. in fact, it can be said that... this was the most massive attack on zaporozhye, although literally a week ago we they said that then there was the most massive blow, well , of course, the consequences, unfortunately, were disappointing, completely destroyed houses, and there were hits on many floors, there was just a huge hole in the house, it was destroyed, they also announced that 15 private houses were destroyed, even in 15 windows and doors were blown out, just a few minutes ago they released a video of how... a woman was taken out from under

the rubble, because there was information at 8:30 that the woman was still under the rubble, literally a few minutes ago journalists filmed her being delivered to the carriage ambulance, fortunately the woman is alive, and in general it is reported that there are six wounded, two are in the hospital now, and people were given help at the scene of the impact, well , we are all shocked, because this shelling was launched. it started at 5:30 a.m., well, everyone woke up, probably from these explosions, i judge for myself, this is when you wake up from this terrible sound, and for more than an hour they searched zaporizhzhia, so they arranged for you to tell me, but before the first blow, before the first explosion there were warnings, there was a signal, there was a signal, indeed, well, it was somewhere at 5:17, i looked later, but really, there was very little time.

passes and if you follow exactly the monitoring channels, they report that the launch of the cabs is flying, well, it is less than 5 minutes, not to go down into the shelter for many to at least find him, very, very little time actually, and this is precisely the question, because i looked at these photos, of course you know better, these are buildings, these are buildings of such an old residential structure, yes, that is, in there or in the basement. are there any in this area, where the most flights came, the most destruction, individual, some, well, let's say, shelters or something like that, actually three areas were affected, that's what you probably say about this high-rise building, but really this old type, i want to say to note that this is the city center, it's really part of the city center, and these are such older buildings, well, in general, we have them. shelters

mostly refer to basements in houses, but not all of them have been converted into shelters, those that have been converted, well , they have been renovated, benches were placed for... for people to sit, somehow they were ennobled, but this, well, in fact, it is not a bomb shelter, it is a shelter, it is the basement of a residential building and not every building has such a shelter, is there a place to resettle the residents of the buildings , which are destroyed, do you have a plan of action, unfortunately, this is not the first case, so here is the military administration and some algorithm, as far as i understand, first people to people... there is some kind of numerical housing, it is either dormitories or shelters, and then people whose houses are unlivable , they apply, they too receive 10,000 hryvnias from the city every month for housing rent, and the liquidation of the consequences itself

must already be covered by the program, there are relations, of course, ms. alisa, thank you for being with us, alisa sezoyeva, a deputy of the zaporizhia district council and from the city that became ... the third in ukraine, where cabs began to fly in massive numbers, this terrible weapon, with which we cannot fight at the moment. kharkiv, sumy, and now zaporizhzhia, these are the three cities that, in their example, cry out that f-16 with air-to-air missiles land is needed yesterday, so this is the only option to secure it. next, we will talk about the issue of mobilization and demobilization. they are the sharpest now, in principle, in the public rear, despite numerous appeals from the military, their families and public organizations, there is still no concrete plan for demobilization, we remember that it was in the updated draft law on

mobilization, then it disappeared, and now they promised some decisions, now there are more and more cases of arbitrary abandonment of a part, well, here in the intricacies of this sensitive and complex question. tatyana golonova explained, let's see, the demobilization of military personnel, who have been on the front line for almost three years without change, is one of the most pressing and debatable topics in ukraine. on the one hand, the armed forces are facing a shortage of personnel against the background of active pressure from russian forces. on the other hand, our soldiers are exhausted and need rest and recovery. discussion of deadlines. service began in early 2024 during the consideration of the mobilization law, however, relevant provisions were excluded from the document that entered into force on may 18. since then, there have been very few public statements about demobilization. we don't have clear terms

of service, because we have problems with mobilization, and i will say that it has gotten a little worse there recently than it was before, and my question is how we can define these, these ... clear terms services, for which i also advocate and also prescribed it in my bill on motivation, if we have no one to replace. in september 2022 a petition appeared on the president's website with a request to demobilize at the request of military personnel who have served a year. oleksiy reznikov, who held the position of minister of defense, commented on this request at the same time. he stated that if a million people are fighting and they need to be demobilized, then instead it is necessary to... and prepare a million as well. exactly one year ago , the new minister of defense rustem umerov spoke about demobilization. he stated that this mechanism can be used only after the end of the war. hope appeared when the military command agreed to

the new law included a provision on demobilization after continuous 36-month service. together with the ministry of defense, we agreed on a figure of 36 months with... hoping for two points: firstly, that there will be no escalation at the front, this is one time, and secondly, the most important thing is that these people will be who after 36 months to replace, and this is already the government that has undertaken, let's say so, to implement this law, i think that they clearly understand what opportunities our country has, i hope that after 36 months we will be in... for to replace those people who really in extremely difficult conditions. in february 2024 , the verkhovna rada adopted the draft law on mobilization in the first reading. in that version of the document , there was still a provision on demobilization, but before the second reading in april, such

a provision was excluded, as oleksandr zavitnevich, the head of the national security committee later told, the provision on demobilization was removed because it was at the front during the drafting of the draft law. one situation, at the time of its adoption is already completely different. and while legislators cannot find a common denominator and adopt the decision is the most difficult for active servicemen and... their families, if you take half-year contracts, it is morally easier than to stop by for a year, for two, the way the guys are fighting now, who, well, who are not simply changed, well, that is, i won here for six months, came home, rested, well, recovered and can go again, and since we don't have a clear framework now, when it will be... demobilization or rotation or replacement, well, that is, it is very difficult.

recently, the commander of the air reconnaissance department of the 56th separate motorized infantry brigade of mariupol serhiy hnezdilov said that voluntarily leaves his unit after 5 years of service. this step, in his opinion, should draw attention to important problems, in particular, the lack of a clear policy on demobilization. according to him, during the 11 years of war with... russia, society and the authorities have not found the strength to seriously and honestly talk about the complex realities of a protracted war. when i joined the army 5 years ago, for some reason i believed that it was important for the country and that i was needed where i was. and i did what i had to do. 5 years with no bad service but... total no, total uncertainty as to how much years of my life i have to give to the country, it

oppresses and kills, in fact. more than 100,000 servicemen have voluntarily left their units since the beginning of 2022. military lawyer of the center for providing support to veterans and their families, roman lykhachov, announced such statistics on the kyiv-24 tv channel. he also noted that in 20-30 people at the same time appear in some cases of szh. according to the sbi lawyer, there are currently no resources to investigate these criminal proceedings. the question of demobilization hung in the air, because russia's brutal war against our state continues, and the pace of mobilization of new people to the army does not meet the existing needs of the defense forces of ukraine. tatyana golonova, espresso tv channel. the new season is your pair, order

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we are coming back. before the conversation, i remind you that the qr-code - this is for means of radio-electronic warfare and drones, this is the collection of a tv channel for three ukrainian units, 3.5 million, this is our ultimate goal, please donate, and to make it more fun and interesting for you, we will conduct important conversations and question professional experts , vadim denysenko, with us, a political expert and journalist, mr. vadim, we welcome you to our airwaves, glory to ukraine, sir. and today we see such a well -scaled coordinated attack by the armed forces of ukraine much deeper into seven regions of russia, in particular in kotluban, where the arsenal very important targets, this is actually a target where a whole trainload of fresh iranian weapons arrived, and there it explodes, nasa says that

the fire there is more and more visible, even from space, it is 400 km away from the borders of ukraine, so we see that the number of such strikes deep into russia is scaling up and increasing, how much does this change the behavior of the russian aggressor now, what do you say? well, i do not think that this will change the behavior of the russian aggressor, that is, in this case, it is really the fact that, well, we have confirmation from two major sources, regarding katlubani, now that we don't have official confirmation that we hit a warehouse with ammunition and... there is enough conflicting information, and until the russians have announced their evacuation from this katlubani, to talk about the fact that warehouses are exploding there, well, that 's probably all it's still a little early, but globally, in principle, unfortunately, it certainly makes it somewhat difficult for the russians to deliver weapons, but at the same time, unfortunately, to talk

about the fact that they stop hostilities, or they lose the desire to fight further, we are not we can... in principle, if it affects hostilities, then only somewhere locally and somewhere, in principle, not on a large scale, the main question is how often we will be able to continue to hit their warehouses and their logistics, if we have there were really long-range weapons, in reality all this could repeat the situation when they were forced to leave kherson oblast, when they simply did not have any, we simply disrupted all their logistics, if we had... the opportunity to fire long-range weapons, of course , this greatly facilitated the situation for us in donetsk region first of all. and in your opinion, why then, the americans are afraid of the west in general to give ... permission to disrupt their logistics, they really think that putin will use nuclear weapons, that is, they really fear for themselves, or is there some other

reason? well, part of the establishment is certainly afraid of nuclear weapons, although it is not critical. from my point of view, the key story is that last week the new york times wrote, i forget one of the major american newspapers, that they have data from one of the secret evidence that the americans... believe that if permission is granted for bulk weapons, the russians will start engaging in sabotage on the territory of the eu and the united states of america, this is the burning of warehouses, this is the destruction of infrastructure, and some such terrorist acts, but as of as of this morning, it looks like this, when putin said that we are changing the nuclear doctrine, then in it with... krema came up with this option, if something flies massively into the airspace of russia, for example, from ukraine, then this will allow striking ukraine , this is how these can be rephrased

the changes that have been made to the nuclear doctrine, well, more than 100 uavs entered, that is, in fact , once again the red line did not work or something, because, well, direct confirmation took place today, well, i have my hypothesis, that is, i believe that putin will... by nature, in principle, he is very afraid of using nuclear weapons, yes, he really raised the stakes, indeed, he even sharply raised the stakes, i can say by personally stating what the red line is, because before that, various speakers from medvideva to unknown to whom, but in in this case, i think, after all, that his history with this statement to date, at least to date, is not connected with ukraine, but with ... good people in the united states of america, the fact is that trump, alone one of the key theses with which trump is going to the elections is that the third world war is brewing, and only he can stop putin. in this

case, putin plays along, clearly plays along with trump and says that i am ready for a nuclear war, and the only answer he gets is that i attracted vladimir putin, and that's it repackaging, in principle, is a clear strategy to promote trump in the united states of america, i will say right away, i do not have any conspiracy theories about the fact that trump is cooperating with putin, but the fact that in this case putin is playing along with him, moreover, he deliberately plays along, there is no doubt. i wanted to ask a little more about the mood from below, whether they are beginning to change, whether it is necessary, as they say, to rock yourself, to lull you to sleep, in kursk there are more and more in the northern cemetery. centuries are taught by video, on him emotionally the chickens react, let's look at the story, it's a very funny story, the russians themselves brought it to light in

novocheboksarsk, there one of those veterans, including the chechen russian-ukrainian war, made a call to make a pilgrimage in support of the participants in the war in ukraine, well we will show these photos now, that is, well... he came out with the cross, as a result, no one came, and this goat himself, a good name, by the way, himself complained to journalists that he would call people to come, but no one came, that's it in this case, these are the usual two or two funny stories, but what do you say about the sentiments of support for further military actions? support is falling, we can clearly say about what has happened now, at least half of the population, at least 50% of the population, say that they are ready for the cessation

of hostilities without any conditions, that is, without any special additional conditions, just stop and everything, i.e. tell us that victory and everything will be fine, but there are about 30%, on which 30-32% lean, on which putin leans, this is hurrah, patriots who are ready to fight to the last russian, and strictly speaking, is this 30%, this is the support of the regime, and the main thing is that putin is not going to change anything in particular, because he understands that the population is so determined, so apathetic that no one is against anything will not speak, so unfortunately, in principle, we have such a situation, when the russian population as a whole would probably be ready to be told tomorrow, let's stop the war, and all of them in the main mass will say everything is fine, but in that it's performance time. against continuation of the war, they are not going to. mr. vadim, i would also like to take a look at china, because on the one hand, we see that some elements,

some components, whole drones. they still transfer, sell in russia now a whole batch of newly developed military drones for testing in ukraine, as they transfer on the training ground, on the other hand, they openly said that there are no nuclear weapons, and they do not welcome all this, and at the same time their this concept is being created with the friends of peace, and the goal is clear, it is immediate actually negotiations, what kind of chinese policy is this and actually? putin's nuclear statements can somehow change china's position, well, look, you only read about drones in a magazine, only there, that is, in this case, let's not forget that america has bipartisan support for hatred of china, and they understand that china is their key opponent at the moment, and actually, given

the situation in general. usa china, through the prism of the usa china situation, they consider the war in ukraine, among other things, but that's why, in principle, we don't have confirmation from the fields, we don't have confirmation from the fields that chinese drones are working on our fronts, that is , well, this is just an important point so that we also understand this, regarding the fact that or china, how strongly china supports or does not support. the idea to stop putin in nuclear rhetoric, for china it is an absolute red line, for china it is an absolute taboo, and they have repeatedly explained to putin that they did not allow any nuclear stories for them for one simple reason, because they there is no need to break the system, the security system in the world at the moment, until they have solved a few key, a few key issues for themselves, actually, this is...

something that we don't talk about very much now, but we have to understand that the key war, it is meant, is not a war as a war, a trade, political, geopolitical war, in the coming years it is a war about whose side the european union will be on and whose side australia will be on, australia as a huge resource region, the european union as a large financial region , and on on the side of the usa or on the side of china, and of course, the use of nuclear weapons will put an absolute cross on china's capabilities in europe and... in australia for the next decades, and therefore from this point of view, of course, china is telling the russians harshly that they categorically against any nuclear tests. i also wanted to ask about another russian-american line of hostilities, do they scale it into money, money and people, attract useful and not quite idiots to the usa, in order to twist the whole story with the russians. who

the orthodox church as, let's say, a structure that is a component of hybrid aggression in ukraine, and not only, as they say, all this is done by the hands of novinsky, as much as the russians in the states will be able to persuade politicians that in ukraine it is not a struggle with the subversive organization of the uocp, and that this is a struggle against christianity, as they say, well, i think that nothing will succeed. point of view, it is very important that we simply keep our finger on the pulse, that we give our counterarguments and really, in principle, exactly the same as they do worked diplomatically and explained our position, if we do this, they will not succeed in anything, i am no longer in this. mr. vadim, thank you for being with espress viewers on sunday morning, vadim denysenko, political expert, journalist and former member of the verkhovna rada. thank you and what, now

the time of news is approaching, because christ... porobi already knows much more, together with the entire editorial team, they have collected all the information from ukraine and from the world, they are ready to share it with all of us , and we are passing the word, because it is important, important to be with espresso, it is important to follow the latest information and it is also important to inform, i remind you that we collect for drones and for slaves, our khrystyna, by the way, also constantly communicates with the military and herself always emphasizes to us that... any collection, it it is very, very necessary, so now is actually the time to pass the word, khrystyna, we are listening to you, congratulations, colleagues, thank you about the situation in zaporizhzhia, i will tell you in the release, there the rescuers got a woman out from under the rubble, as well as about the large-scale attack on russia, about all this later , please wait.