fact confirmed it, here are these controversies, yes, here is this struggle, even to some extent such a fierce struggle between the two candidates, in particular, the american analyst peter dicken, he explains that trump's rhetoric has changed, i will remind you that at first trump allegedly refused meetings with zelenskyi, and mike johnson, the speaker of the house of representatives, he sent such a rather unsympathetic letter to the president of ukraine demanding the dismissal or recall of ms. markarova ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america and we remember this speech by mr. trump, where he did not quite correctly express himself about ukraine, well, let's not mention it now, because there is really no time, but here is this sharp rhetoric, a change. which took place during the last

two days of zelenskyi's stay there, why did trump still decide to meet, mr. dickenson actually explains this by the fact that the ukrainian and polish diasporas play a big role during the elections, or rather on the day of the elections, and it is clear that the same trump does not want, even after his eccentric ... such statements, does not want to reject these voices, and i will remind these are hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of votes, in your opinion, it is yes or no, can you really confirm such a hypothesis, and how much did you like or dislike this meeting with zelensky trump, how trump behaved there , its support or not support of ukraine, all the same. well, what started the week with, as you

said, such an undiplomatic letter, it's completely against against any protocol, and it came out again from the dark corners of the online, and did the turner carlson who spoke about it immediately when president zelenskyi came to america, so carlson immediately began to speak against him online, to complain that he had come. america, as well as some other such strange online stars, from wild corners, but that it rose to the former president, since he two weeks earlier raised conspiracy theories about immigrants from the ghetto, that they eat cats and dogs, from time to time , this is the logic of the former president, who wants to change the opinion, change the rhetoric online or in the media. to

return attention to him again, and he is all that did, most of the attention was on the former president, not on the direct meetings that were, we saw the live broadcast of zelensky's meeting at the white house or the meeting with the vice president, all the talk in the press was about the former president trump, and when he got that attention, we also saw that there is an approach to president trump's team or... without normal resources, that the request was that president zelensky would still like to have a meeting, and so normality has returned a little, but regarding those who vote, you americans planted ukrainian, polish, of any eastern or central european descent, i think in general their campaign for president trump has completely abandoned those votes. but there's still quite a few here

that will vote for president trump from that background, i'll still get, i'd say 55 half-and-half, emailing me to our office or to my private, our, our community is divided as much as any- what communities, and they're willing to vote for their opinions, for one candidate or the other, but the campaign itself, i don't see that either uh... president trump, or this senator j. vance, who is a senator from the state of ohio, where there is a fairly large number of ukrainians, but to this day has not visited a single ukrainian center, either before he became a senator or after, and wants nothing to do with such ethnic americans we will follow the situation, we will usually watch the elections in the usa, because it is very important for us. for

the support of our country, i am very grateful to you, mr. andriy, for finding time to join our airwaves, until the new week, andriy dobryanskyi, spokesman for ukrainian. of the congressional committee of the united states of america was just broadcast live on the espresso tv channel. i remind you about our survey, today it sounds as follows: are you satisfied with the results of zelensky's visit to the united states of america. if so, you can take your smartphones or phones and vote absolutely free. 0800-211-381, if not, 0800-211-380. and in just 19 minutes we will tally up the intermediate results, and for now we continue our live broadcast, and we already have the next guest, yes igor reiterovych,

mr. igor, good evening, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the geo ukrainian center for social development, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes, congratulations, mr. igor, let's start, of course, with those statements that come from the occupying state, there lavrov said a lot of things, of course, there is another nuclear blackmail, from putin, lavrov, from all these russian people, in fact, foreign minister serhiy lavrov, during his speech at the un general assembly, threatened again... let's listen to what he said. as for russia, the purpose of the task has been announced her strategic defeat, almost as planned by london and washington in may 1945,

developing even before the end of the second world war an operation called "the unthinkable" to destroy the soviet union. then it was kept... in strict secrecy, and the current anglo-saxon strategists do not hide it. i will not talk here about the absurdity and danger of the very idea of ​​trying to fight to victory with a nuclear power, which is russia. at the same time, a few days ago, the president, the so-called president of russia, vladimir putin announced about that they are actually changing the nuclear doctrine. i think that the audience should no longer be told what was being discussed there, well, another nuclear, so-called scarecrow, however, today, putin's press secretary, dmitry piskov, stated that it is not necessary to connect ukrainian drone attacks with the actual possibility of nuclear

response blows, in particular against the background of the recent change in this nuclear doctrine, which we just mentioned here. mr. igor, here is such a galaxy of statements, on the one hand intimidation, on the other hand we see a change in the nuclear doctrine, putin's scarecrows again. at this point piskov declares that no, well, we will not use nuclear weapons, it is clear that every night ukrainian drones fly over russian facilities and strike russian military facilities. in your opinion, this whole catavasia with nuclear. what does it testify to and does anyone in ukraine or the west really react to it and fear such statements or actions? well , today's statement by piskov is essentially the quintessence of this so-called nuclear doctrine of the russian federation, it is nothing more

than words that they can say change depending on the situation, there are some mythical red lines that they draw, but which they... are not going to implement in any way, because they simply cannot do it, i mean precisely in the context of the russian-ukrainian war, so that it is clear that the doctrine, it provides for a confrontation with a nuclear country, and a response to some nuclear strikes there or the delivery , including a preventive nuclear strike, because it is also laid down in those strategies that are currently on russia, and what to do for example, with ukraine, they still don't know , and that's why there is such a polarity of statements: lavrov says one thing, then it means there... putin says the second, and piskov finally, clearly referring to the same putin, says absolutely the third, so that he perfectly understands that no one will actually respond with any nuclear weapons, drone attacks, missile attacks, because this is an impossible

story, against which even countries that have some partnership, well, primarily economic relations with the russian federation, but they will continue will push this topic, why, because well... they believe that it is still, well, such a sufficiently effective mechanism of influence on individual western elites, on individual western countries, they will be able to achieve their goal in this way, in this case in their goal is very simple and banal: not to give ukraine the opportunity to obtain permission to strike there with western long-range weapons on the territory of the russian federation, for this they constantly disperse these theses, but then they have to surrender little by little back for one simple reason because when you say that an attack by a large number of drones there is a challenge to the existence of russia there, we will strike back, even when the drones are just taking off, they will really fly into you in the morning... there are 120-130 drones and a certain part of them actually fall on to russian

military facilities, then you look like an idiot in the eyes of your electorate of your so-called people, well, because you are shouting here, you stomp your feet, you can't really do anything, that's why piskov is immediately released into the arena and he explains that no, well, there is a specific and it does not apply to these things, or the president makes the decision in each case separately, by the way, the russian right-wing absolute experts, well, that is... who are not in the opposition, who are on the territory of russia and are admitted to various tv channels there, and so on, they themselves say that this is such a strategy, a piece of paper, the decision on its application is made by the president himself, he may or may not accept it, and now they are simply implementing it in practice, because there are words, there are real actions, they are real actions not that that they are not ready to do, they are afraid to just do them, therefore, peskov's lips are forced to roll back a little further, and believe me, the situation will be exactly the same. when we get permission, the permission will not necessarily be public, they will fly further into the airfields and many

other strategic facilities there, and they will say that no, no, no, this does not correspond to the strategy in any way , and we will not actually use it in practice, you mentioned, by the way, the permission, this one, we just spoke with a previous interlocutor from the united states of america, that it is possible that this permission will be granted already after the presidential... elections in the usa, that is, during the period there, relatively speaking, from november to january. but still, going back to these nuclear threats, don't you think that these scaremongers are really, they are directly related to this possible authorization in order to delay, or at least prejudge in their opinion, the possibility of giving ukraine, here permits to use long-range missiles on the territory of so-called russia. well, again, the question here is whether , for example, the white house or our others react

international partners to such nuclear, nuclear statements, and thus there is delaying the granting of this permission, or are these things, they are completely unrelated, and no one in the civilized world actually reacts to putin's conditional nuclear blackmail? no, these things are connected and... look, putin's statement was made during the visit of our delegation to the united states of america, and in this way they tried to distract attention as much as possible, to intercept the information initiative, and, as putin believes, to push the west, means on western elites to give in to this blackmail and, accordingly, not give permission to ukraine to use weapons. moreover, their propagandists picked up on this thesis that, look, the ukrainian delegation returned without permission, read our statements. spat, they are afraid of us, this is not quite to say the least, yes, because there are other reasons why the decision

is being postponed for the time being, and about this, by the way, the same biden directly said that it is necessary to hold negotiations with partners in europe, we should discuss it in the ramstein format and so on, but well, there is a certain element of influence, it is definitely present here, you see, our partners are western, they cannot, after all, cannot ignore even the minimum of what putin says, and he can actually implement it in practice, so they must for some period time, not too long, but review including those plans and the strategies they have for such a case, if, for example, there, well, relatively speaking, the risk of a nuclear war was laid at the level of fifty percent, after putin’s statements, it may increase there to 0.7%, but they should these 2% list, because that's how the western decision-making system works, and that's basically what they're doing. is there any real impression on them and makes them abandon their actions there? i don't think so, because

indeed, after the start of a large-scale war , the russians made official statements more than 30 times about, well, with threats, about nuclear strikes, and it is clear that many in the west do not react to this, but they cannot refuse at the same time from these minimal percentages, there is a probability that, after all, it can happen, so everything that putin wins here... by making such statements, well, he slightly postpones the adoption of those decisions that are important for ukraine itself, or forces, for example, partner countries, well, in this case, us. three countries, this is the united states, france and britain, so it forces them to do something, for example, to review how this permission will be given, what will be the format of this permission, maybe at first they wanted to do it more publicly, now they will do it there not at all publicly, well, that is, here it is options, i think that these options are being talked about quite actively now, and we

had to and our delegations had to be ready for these options, well, listen, you can do the math right away. and to expect that when we fly with such a proposal, there will be some kind of reaction from the russian federation, well, what, another nuclear, another nuclear threats, especially since they discussed these changes to the nuclear doctrine a couple of months ago, this is also some kind of is not news, so here you need to have a ready-made set of arguments why it won't work, we already, so to speak, included the anti-crisis a little later, the interviews that began to appear there, including from the president, and after the visit of the delegation, they sort of showed that... we expected that russia would do that, it should not become some kind of obstacle there and so on, but our partners need to understand it to some extent, so putin won some time, relatively speaking, for himself and for russia, but this time, well, at least as of today, he is not critical, that is, it is not a strategic decision, it is a decision of such a tactical nature that it is doubtful

peace initiatives, i also want to talk with you, actually... switzerland supported the so-called peace initiative of china and brazil, it really appeared, and conditionally speaking, it is being discussed, including by the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, but let's go in order: the border affairs department of switzerland said that the country would support the so -called peace initiative of china and brazil regarding the war in ukraine, but emphasized the importance of strengthening the reference to the un charter in similar peace plans. at the same time, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine expressed disappointment over switzerland's support for the sino-brazilian consensus regarding ukraine. we cannot understand the logic of such a decision. we call on the swiss confederation and all countries that support international law and the un charter to avoid participating

in so-called peace initiatives that can only complicate the achievement process. comprehensive, just and sustainable peace for ukraine. actually, this is a statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. but at the same time, by the way, viktor orban appears, prime minister of hungary, during the un general assembly in new york , according to some media, he worked on the organization of a peace summit, which should be a continuation of his so-called peacemaking. mission, we remember this peacekeeping mission when he came to kyiv, to moscow, and actually, where they should invite ukraine and russia, and in fact in this way he supported this peace plan of china and brazil, mr. igor, how do you assess are

such initiatives real, can it really be considered that it's going to be from... play some significant role in the international arena, is this information noise by china that wants to advance its position and its certain hegemony in the international arena, please, i said it's even, you know, information spam, that is they try to draw attention somewhere to themselves in this way, while it looks like this for two reasons, firstly, they never presented any normal plan. that's fine, there are some six points that they said, well, it's not serious, you will then come up with some a serious document, where every point, every point will have an explanation, why exactly it is and why exactly in this wording, they do not do this, and i am convinced that they will not be able to do it, because they will immediately interfere with the charter of the united nations organization, you understand , they will immediately get into the fact that how to interpret

certain provisions and certain actions of the russian federation, a phrase that russians like to use about... the right of a nation to self-determination, it is ridiculous in relation to individual regions of ukraine, because there is none the donbas, luhansk, or crimean people do not exist a priori, and all of them know this very well, and the same china cannot even complain about this matter, because there are at least two peoples, two nations, tens of millions of whom live on the territory of crete, and who do not have of his country, the uighurs and the tibetans, actually, yes, and in this context, china, well, it will not be able to ... somehow come up with a real concrete plan, this is the first moment, and the second moment, why it is so far no more than informational spam, because this so-called platform is friends of peace and so on, eh? and what exactly will she do, what kind of work will she do there, what will they do via skype, zoom, communicate and hold some meetings there about what, who authorized them, they held talks with

ukraine, if you are talking about the end of the war , which is going on in ukraine, then first of all you should probably contact ukraine, they don’t do anything like that, and you know, one more interesting point, the chinese representatives really like to talk, and the russians repeated them that the chinese the so-called peace plan supported by more than 100 countries. i really want to look at these 100 countries, while there they have collected a little more than a dozen, and of course the position of switzerland, it is a little disappointing, because it is an attempt to sit somewhere on two chairs, but in the end something like this could be expected from the citizens of fissia, as by the way, and from the hungarians, but this will actually be a problem for europe and about hungary specifically for the european union, where they participate and in what format they participate, we before that , you have to be prepared that such initiatives will still appear, maybe not eat... such a platform will still be formed, but in fact, well, comment on all of them, as the ministry of foreign affairs does, here the correct reaction is quite prompt, reasonable, in

principle there are no big questions, but again, we must not forget, that we then have to come up with our plan that will interrupt all these plans that some other countries are coming up with, and when our delegation goes, presents this plan in the united states to our partners, and until now we are with... you we don't know anything about him, and the other countries of the world who are not our specific allies in this war, and do not help us fight off the aggression of the russian federation, do not know anything about him then, then maybe the time has come in principle for this plan, although would generally publish and thus intercept even this information initiative, which china is now trying to kill, and hungary will somehow join it there. and some other countries are speculating, so that's the way it is now in fact, it's up to us, the reaction of the ministry of foreign affairs is great, but in order to say that your idea is bad, you need to come up with your idea and

prove how it differs from this so- called platform, and why this platform, it cannot exist in this format maybe, well , we hope that the promises made by our head, who is responsible for foreign policy, i mean the head of the president's office, will come true and soon this plan will finally be there.' and not only ukrainians, but also all other countries will get to know it. well, and of course, we will wait for this full one plan, i think that the ukrainian society, including, should know and should see what the president of ukraine traveled to the united states of america with, but we will observe all this, mr. igor, we are sincerely grateful to you for joining the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. thank you, ihor iterovych, political scientist, head of the field. of legal programs ge ukrainian center for social development has just been in a new week. let's move on to the intermediate results of our

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we start talking, i will remind you about our poll, and then we will start, we ask you whether you are satisfied with the results of zelensky's visit to the united states america? if you think so, you absolutely can take your phones or smartphones for free and vote. 0800 211 381, if you think not, 0800-3802, 211 382. you see all the numbers on your screens, and once again i emphasize that your calls are absolutely free, at the end of this hour we will summarize the results of our vote with you , and today we will have two main such topics, the first topic is, of course, negotiations or peace plans, about which more and more often they talk about what

western media write about. mass information, about what ukrainians say on the streets, in kitchens, what is being discussed on the airwaves, youtube channels and tv channels, these are of course negotiations, this is of course the victory plan, and actually what may or may not happen in the coming months, we will understand this, but the most interesting thing is that here is the victory plan, which you and i have been talking about, probably for more than a week, whom ukrainians have not yet been shown, that is, we have seen some pieces in foreign mass media, we have seen what was said about it american experts and american politicians, but they haven't talked about it with ukrainians yet, you see, the head of the president's office andrii yermamak said on the air of the telethon "edyni novyni" that this victory plan

will finally be shown to ukrainians. but attention, without some closed details. let's listen to what mr. yarmak said. this is the president's plan, and certainly, as he promised, after the presentation to the president of the united states, partners, i think it will be presented to the ukrainians, but i can tell you, certainly there are parts of the... they are so very sensitive, they are closed, and not because there are secrets, this is our country, we all, you know, today, in the good sense of the word, we such, really the only family in which there can be no secrets, especially during the war, but still, you know, everything that happened becomes public, and it is heard not only in our

country, it is ... heard by the enemy . at the same time, part of the western press is writing about possible negotiations, and various countries are talking about it, they are talking about it, we have already repeatedly emphasized this and in germany, olaf scholz says about it, they are talking about it in china, in brazil, we see that hungary is joining, switzerland to this, but actually including and... the press writes, actively writes about it, writes about the victory plan, writes about possible negotiations, in particular elpais, so and so, there is such a publication, it writes about the fact that zelensky is preparing for negotiations, under such a buzzword the article in the spanish newspaper that i just mentioned to you , in particular, we are talking about the critical crossroads at which ukraine found itself on the eve of

the presidential elections in spol. states of america and after 2.5 years of full-scale invasion. in particular, the quote: the war, which has come to a dead end on the battlefield, has reached that stage maturity, which is, which is the most dangerous. the future of ukraine and europe as a whole will be uncertain if its allies simply give in to the aggressor's blackmail. as in any peace negotiations, as zelensky knows, each side will have to make concessions, but... what cannot be given up is the security and preservation of a free and sovereign ukraine, writes elpais. here are two such theses, in particular khrystyna, i don't know if you watched the first part of our program, we talked about this chinese-brazilian plan, where they want to advance something, it's already there.