50 tons of ukrainian grain. on september 28, 2022 , the sbu notified him of suspicion of collaborative activity. in march 22 , saulenko was sentenced in absentia to 15 years of imprisonment for treason with confiscation of property. a new suspicion was announced to him on july 17 for carrying out information activities in cooperation with russia. the return of our territories to the native harbor as part of the russian federation. will be a new stage in the revival of our regions. saulenko was also placed on the nsdc sanctions list by presidential decree, and later on sanctions eu and great britain. this traitor is getting a good term, but saulenko will not necessarily put him behind bars. as i already noted, the life of a collaborator is so fragile and unpredictable. today you are sitting at an oak table in your office, and tomorrow you are already lying in the same oak. and finally

, i will tell you about 38-year-old oleksiy yehorovych alipov, the self-proclaimed mayor of occupied tokmak. despite the fact that we recently became part of the russian federation, all people feel the importance and significance of these events that are taking place now. before becoming a collaborator, oleksiy worked in the state executive service and... according to journalists, he simply did not give up, because for that amount he assisted some entrepreneurs in non-compliance with court decisions. after some time, alipov went to work at the military commissariat, and when the full-scale invasion began, oleksiy remained in the temporarily occupied territories of zaporozhye. i abruptly forgot the national language, hid the passport of ukraine in a drawer and got a new one with a chicken. we need to unite. first, the occupiers

appointed him to the position of the so-called head of the administration of the city of molochansk. apparently, this werewolf proved himself very well, because soon he became the fake mayor of tokmak. to date, the situation in the city of tokmak is stable. all city and district services are in place. our main enemy. is on the other side of the front, and he will be defeated, victory will be ours. alyosha is always for putin, for russia, for a great victory. in general, everything follows the krem method, which the collaborators wear in their chests pockets, everything is already written there for them, just repeat on the camera, and you will have rubles dripping and you will sit in a chair. and while ali jumped from one fake chair to another, our law enforcement officers recorded everything. his

treasonous actions to serve suspicion for holding a position in the occupation institutions. the khortytsky district court of zaporizhzhia has already sentenced this traitor to 14 years of imprisonment with confiscation of property. absenteeism for now. and recently, on september 2, 2024, by presidential decree, alipov was added to the nsdc sanctions list. oleksiy, in a ukrainian prison you will not be offered two small chairs. and here are two chairs, so it is with joy. and it seems to me. you will have to sit on both. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you want to tell us about the kremlin salesmen, write to this e-mail address or simply on facebook. together we will send all the traitors after the russian ship. see you in a week at espresso. vasyl

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good evening, friends, good evening to all viewers of the espresso tv channel, saturday politclub, live ether, and we traditionally begin to analyze everything that happened in the current week, everything that is important for ukraine, everything that is important for the world and, of course, everything that will happen in our ukrainian society that is important for your life. andriy smoliy is in the studio, and now in... vitaly portnikov joins in, mr. vitaliy, good evening to you, congratulations, mr. andriy, well , it has been such a busy week that i think it takes two hours, but four, for everything to mention what happened this week, not every week, however, is so full of events, in fact i completely

agree with you, as they say, we have what we have, but today we traditionally have two hours, so we have to stick together, we all have to speak today. topics, all topics that are important to us for our country are declared. so let's start with the traditionally secure block, it is our number one in every saturday political club, here we talk about the situation at the front, we talk about the threats to our country that come from the aggressor state in and we talk about how ukraine will defend itself and defends now, but let's probably start with putin's threats, or rather, his so-called threats of the new nuclear doctrine, after, in fact, the whole world began to actively talk about the possibility of giving ukraine, ukraine the opportunity to carry out strikes on the territory

of russia, deep into the territory of russia, with long -range missiles or medium-range missiles, putin sharply gathered the so-called sovbes. and accordingly, the so-called nuclear doctrine was adopted or is being developed there, and what does it mean? russia is actually expanding the list of these grounds, with the help of which or through which they can allegedly use nuclear weapons, by the way, not only on states that also possess nuclear weapons, and also by states that pose no... average danger to russia and cooperate with or that are actually assisted by nuclear states, i.e. the so-called next such red line, mr. vitaly, perhaps we will start with this, and why putin

talked about this, why these doctrines are being changed in the last few days, and whether these threats can really be considered real and not just another bluff. russian dictator? well, i will say right away that i believe that this story with putin's speeches cannot be considered in departures from what was happening in the united states. in principle, this is the main event of this week - this is the stay of ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi in the united states, this is his talks with president joseph biden, this is meetings with kamela harris and donald trump, these are meetings. congress and these are the initiatives that are being talked about in the united states. i mean not only the allocation of aid to ukraine, but first of all the situation related to the fact that joseph biden decided at the end of his presidential term to conduct such

a very important summit, at which the prime minister of great britain keir starmer will be, the federal chancellor rolav scholz will be there, the president of france emmanuel macron will be there, all this. will be in germany, and in parallel there will be a ramstein summit within the parameters of the 50 ramstein countries, which will be represented by their leaders, and of course, in this situation, we understand that this will be such a long-term plan as the western powers to help ukraine in the future, how they will react, if the president the united states will become donald trump and will not be wanted to help ukraine, that is, these are... quite serious meetings and quite serious decisions of a strategic nature, even if you and i do not learn about some decisions, this does not mean that western leaders will not learn about them, and by the way, it does not mean that putin will not find out about them, and of course there is always a threat, i think that this threat to russia,

it is obvious, and it is reported in the statements that putin receives from his intelligence services, in the analysis of the situation, some information from... agents, which speaks of what ukraine can really do to obtain in one form or another, openly or secretly, permission to hit the territory of russia with western missiles. and this is also an important issue for him, because of course, like any person who cares about the security of his own territory, about the safety of his own army, who cares about the need to continue the long war, putin needs to stop it, and how can he realistically do it to stop, if he has already actually applied all the force methods, only by means of new nuclear threats, and these nuclear threats now concern not so much ukraine, it must be understood, how many countries. because in principle you can think that with the concept of what to do if

russia launches a nuclear attack on ukraine, the western partners have already decided, but we have said many times that it is impossible, but i think that the question is not that, maybe is it impossible, the question is that in state practice the question is not what to do, what is possible and what is not possible, the question is what to do if. well, that is how any state apparatus works and, of course, any serious state, it has already seriously considered the consequences nuclear attack on ukraine. that is, what to do if there is a nuclear strike, will be inflicted on some group of ukrainian troops, how to react, and what to do if a nuclear strike is inflicted on some large ukrainian city and will lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of people from such a nuclear strike, its consequences, i think that there are already protocols, reactions, there is a clear understanding of how to act both in the political... and in the security sense of the word, and of course, it depends on where this will be a nuclear attack was carried out, close to the borders

of the european union, there, say, in the west of ukraine or far from the borders of the european union, say, in the center, east, south of ukraine, which place will be the subject of such a strike, i am not saying that it will be struck, i am saying that there are, in principle, clear protocols of actions in case it will be inflicted, and this is basically what the director of the central intelligence agency. of the united states bilburst told the head of the foreign intelligence service of the russian federation, sergei naryshkin, when they met in 2022, it seems, and beers recently said that at that time they believed that there was a danger a nuclear attack on ukraine, and in that situation they decided to communicate how they would act, and i think that this conversation between joros and naryshkin, it convinced putin that the united states would not be very scared. if, let's say, he launches a nuclear attack on ukraine, that this does not cause them some feeling of an apocalypse to their own interests, and

then it can be considered that their hands are free, that they can, in principle, continue to help ukraine, because they do not fear the consequences of some too serious russian reaction for your help. then it is necessary to change the situation, then it is necessary to show the west that the problems will not be with ukraine, but with those countries that help it. what is the point of changing this nuclear concept, that if it is not a nuclear power, it is ukraine, let's say, that strikes with conventional weapons, but the production of a nuclear power on the territory of the russian federation, then this nuclear power is considered an accomplice of such a strike, and even if this nuclear power uses conventional weapons for attacks on the territory of the russian federation, not a nuclear state uses, but... ukraine uses, but the weapons of a nuclear state, then russia can respond with a nuclear

way if this will threaten its national security or the very existence of the russian state, that is, what is meant, if we simply say, ukraine strikes with british missiles, conventional, and russia corresponds to nuclear strikes on britain or on american military bases, if it 's an american missile, that's the idea, and he suggests that they... think, well, you absolutely don't i feel sorry for the ukrainians, if you are there, you are ready to sacrifice the ukrainians there, if i am will launch a nuclear strike as part of our confrontation globally, and you do not consider it a serious risk to yourself, we already understood that, and you are ready to sacrifice yourself, you are ready to make decisions that will lead to a nuclear attack on london or on new york, well just curious, this is the essence of this new blackmail, it raises the stakes to a possible nuclear clash between nuclear countries and says that even... if you are not a nuclear country, you give conventional weapons that hit the territory of a nuclear state, this nuclear state

will respond to you there, which you almost show, not ukrainians, everything is clear with ukrainians, you, i.e. you will decide whether the life and safety of your own citizens is important to you, or whether you are ready to fight the russian federation in the future and deny it a natural sphere of influence, that is all this blackmail, i.e. it is not even meant bluff, is it not bluff. this is the transfer, mr. andrii, of this diplomatic dialogue from a completely different level of confrontation. and that's it for you, and do you think it will work or not? i can't do that. to say to stemmen, because again, it depends on the intelligence, and not from putin's declaration at the un security council, the russian federation, i apologize, because by and large, as you understand, the americans again rely on the real information they have, which comes first from the analysis of open sources, secondly

, from the analysis of closed sources, thirdly, from the report of agents working for the cia and other western intelligence agencies in the russian higher education. we understand that there are such people, and they regularly transmit information, and disinformation, of course, about the real intentions of the russian leadership, because in politics, well, for serious politics, i mean , all these meetings and all these speeches do not matter, only what is decided behind closed doors matters, when it comes to the possibility of a nuclear war, it is precisely what happens behind closed doors that matters door, i always say that any words of putin should always be... taken seriously, because you know, when every statement of putin's is called a bluff, it really surprises me, i want to remind you, that when putin threatened to attack ukraine in 2021, it is true, everyone also said that he was bluffing, and that this is all done specifically in order to induce the west and ukraine to make concessions , most ukrainian

politicians and experts, if you recall, said that this is a bluff. back in january 2022, when i advised to take seriously the statements of the former president of the russian federation, dmitry medvedev, who in fact published this plan for the future attack on ukraine on his social networks, everyone said that medvedev is a clone who consumes a lot of vodka, well, in his case, it's vodka, and you don't need to take seriously what he says, although it's clear that not a single post by dmitry medvedev is written by dmitry medvedev himself, but it is... information and propaganda operations in the administration of the president of the russian federation, the office of the press service of the president of the russian federation, which simply reports certain narratives on behalf of medvedev, so in principle, to perceive any putin's statements as blav to rule his own graves, to any statements of putin and regarding a possible attack on this or that country, and regarding the use of nuclear

weapons and the willingness to fight for a long time should be taken absolutely seriously, as if it were real. threat and to prepare for such a threat, but we are not talking about it now, because it is not entirely our business, it is already a question for our allies, how seriously they assess the level of such a threat today, you understand, that in order to, in principle, take such a step as the use of nuclear weapons, it is necessary to conduct real nuclear exercises, not the virtual exercises that russia is currently conducting, by the way, this is also an important propaganda step, as you understand in its activities, and... the real exercises here on the training ground in the new land, which they keep scaring and saying that they are ready to conduct them and that they will conduct them at any moment, and they do not conduct them only because the united states does not conduct them, in fact, in fact, if there are no such exercises, then they cannot themselves assess the effectiveness of their own nuclear weapons, that is, all this will not happen

in one moment gradually, but the fact that we are certainly sliding towards... a new escalation with the use of a nuclear component, i always said, i believe that the indecision of the west in confronting russia, it will eventually lead to this result, why, because there is an idea in the west that they are simmering this frog, so to speak, and not giving putin the opportunity to go into a hysterics that would allow him to use nuclear weapons, in fact, putin has a sense of impunity, he has a sense that the west is afraid of him, and even when he is bluffing, he means that he can actually carry out his threats. why there was no nuclear danger until this day, i can tell you, because russia by and large and still does not feel that these goals of special operations, which were set so-called, that is, the destruction

of ukrainian statehood, the transformation of ukraine either into russian territory or the sphere of influence of russia, that they cannot be from correspondence. it is simply believed that it will take more time, and many observers who speak with representatives of the russian political elite see that in moscow they are absolutely sure that they will win, that it is a matter of time, well, not three years, yes seven more years, well, in principle, there is no way meaning, because for russia this is a state of confrontation of war, it is natural, well, we will fight until 2030, well, until 2032, but why go to such a global escalation and use nuclear weapons, when ukraine is still from... it does not matter that this territory sooner or later will become part of russia, but if the very nature of the game changes, if russia... begins to realize that it will get nothing, if it sees its own infrastructure facilities being destroyed for with the help of western missiles, this of course changes

the situation itself, and here we do not know how putin behaves in this situation, does he understand that it is necessary to at least suspend or stop this war, he may also be a supporter of such a variant of the development of potions, or he may consider that this is the last proof in the form of applications. of nuclear weapons, at least will help to intimidate ukraine itself, so that not so much even its leadership, but so that its society realizes that resistance to russian ambitions will lead to absolutely nothing, and it is better now, after such a first use of nuclear weapons, to agree on some terms, surrender is more or less comfortable than living in a situation of waiting for new russian nuclear strikes on ukraine, this can be such a part of the bluff, you understand, but again, how much this bluff... can be carried out from a military and technical point of view , this should not be asked of me, but of the director of the cia. it will happen, we will definitely follow this, because really i absolutely agree

with mr. vitaly, who says that we should respond to the words, actions, and threats of the highest officials of the occupying state, and not reduce it all to some kind of scoffs at it. only, as they say, in a healthy real analysis and a healthy real reaction to certain statements can we see the truth. we have a small break, a few minutes, and we will return again to the live broadcast of saturday's political club, do not switch from tv channel.

we are back, the live broadcast, the saturday political club, continue to summarize the most important events of the current week, and perhaps the most important thing is what was on the lips of the whole society, all mass media. this is the visit of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi to the united states of america. the visit lasted more than five days. the president met with the leaders of the united

states of america, with the president of the united states, joe biden, with the vice president and democratic candidate kamala harris, and in the end , he still managed to meet with another candidate for the post of president. and the usa by donald trump, even after a certain scandal. in general, during this meeting, the president presented a victory plan, met, by the way, also with congressmen and senators, there were also meetings with the defense by the industry of the united states of america, well, in short, many, many things. mr. vitaly, if we summarize like this first, how do you... will you characterize this visit, relatively speaking, was the victory plan, as they say, presented positively, did this

chip work with him, and did the victory plan succeed, sir andrii, did you notice that in the last days of the visit, almost nothing was mentioned about the victory plan, and no one spoke anymore, that is exactly why i am asking you, how do you feel in the context of this describe all this that happened, well, this is... what we talked about last week when i asked you, and what is the point in principle of providing some kind of plan 40 days before the presidential election in the united states, because if you really want some kind of strategic engagement plan, then you need to pitch this plan to the new president of the united states. the president said again that there is a need for some decisive changes, a decisive end to the war. ensure even before the presidential election in the united states, i do not understand how, frankly, when left month, miracles do not happen in war, and in such a war, in which russia is now advancing. and

not the ukrainian troops, i understand that if we were to advance there and we would not have enough strength, the kaza said, we need a few more, maybe echelons of weapons, so that we can break through the russian defense there, but now the situation is completely different, now the situation is that we are losing positions, we need help so that we do not lose them, so that we stop the russians from attacking our territory, and this has been happening for a long time, it has been happening for almost a year, this is the first moment, the second moment, i and then and i told you now that i considered absolutely correct. that if the president of ukraine arrives in the united states for the session of the un general assembly, then he should meet with the current president and with the candidates for the post of president of the united states, because the ukrainian president does not really have any great political choice if he does not go to the session of the general assembly un before the presidential elections in the states, he thus shows disrespect for the current

administration, right? "i didn't come not to meet you, because i don't know if you are win, and what you have done for me, for my country, for four years in a row, it does not matter much, i will talk to the winner, it is so impossible, especially since we understand that there is a person in the current administration who is absolutely has a chance to win the presidential elections on november 5, so you are coming to the session of the un general assembly in any case, if you are coming, then of course you should maintain a balance and not only meet." president, but also with candidates for the position of president of the united states of the states, and ukrainian presidents have always tried to do this, and it has not always been successful, you remember that in 2016 there was also such a problem, because donald trump practically did everything that depended on him not to meet with petro poroshenko, and now, by and large, donald trump did everything in his power not to meet with volodymyr zelenskyi, the fact that this meeting took place says that even in trump's circle now there are influential circles that believe...

that such a meeting should take place and influence the trump in confrontation with trump himself and those of his, i would say associates, assistants who believe that he does not need to talk to zelensky, but this is how zelensky got into, i would not even say, an unexpected scandal with this meeting with trump, it would be very it would be fine if there were no scandals, in a scandal programmed by the very logic of the presidential election campaign, why? because there are certain points, certain topics. according to which one applicant can rebuild from another, there are many of them, and they are first of all outwardly relate to domestic politics, but in the foreign policy segment it is the middle east and ukraine, and by the way, when it comes to the middle east, there is already an exchange of statements that is absolutely incredible, well, that is, when donald trump says that if he is not elected president of the united

states, the american jews will be blamed, right? no american politician has ever allowed himself to do so during the election campaign, but donald trump understands that he can show how much he thinks about security and the future of israel will differ from the position of kamala garis, with ukraine it is absolutely the same, but when kamala garis met with volodymyr zelenskyi, she spoke not so much with volodymyr zelenskyi as with donald trump, she explained why her position... in ukraine is diametrically opposed to the position of donald trump, and it is precisely on this that, by and large , the emphasis is placed in those states where there are vacillating voters, participants of her election campaign, in particular this story is famous pennsylvania, when kamalagaris, during a debate in pennsylvania, was addressing the poles in pennsylvania and saying, look, this man wants ukraine to fall, and it's going to be trouble for your homeland, for poland, for polish americans in pennsylvania, and then there were posters .

of pennsylvania with an appeal to the polish diaspora of pennsylvania, and now zelensky is going to an arms factory in pennsylvania, however, where governor shapira is, where these poles are, so to speak, from the point of view of the republicans, reinforcing this whole company garis with his own presence, not just an appeal by garis, not just crying, but now zelensky himself, well, it's obvious that it's annoying. the republicans, and they are just freaking out, and in this situation, i think that the letter that the speaker of the house of representatives of the american congress, mike johnson, sent to volodymyr zelenskyi as an ultimatum, about the need to refuse the services of the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, mrs. oksana markarova, but this is just a sign of this, i would say, tough such reaction, but clarification.