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and then there were pennsylvania posters appealing to the polish diaspora of pennsylvania, and now zelensky is going to a weapons factory in pennsylvania, right? where is governor shapira, where are these poles, so to speak, from the point of view of the republicans, supporting this entire harris company with his own presence, it is no longer just an appeal by harris, it is no longer just crying, and now zelensky himself, well, it is obvious that. .. it annoys the republicans and they are just freaking out, and in this situation, i think that the letter that the speaker of the house of representatives of the american of congress, mike johnson sent an ultimatum to volodymyr zelensky about the need to refuse the services of the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, mrs. oksana markarova, but this is just a sign of this, i would say, such a harsh reaction, but precisely...
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could such a scandal have been avoided in some way, from the point of view of our authorities , to build either a visit or a behavioral model in order to smooth out the corners as much as possible and avoid this scandal as much as possible, or after all the scandal that arose because of the visit to the zelensky plant in pennsylvania, it was already too... invested, and it could not be avoided at all, well, look, zelenskyy is not the first time visiting a military factory, he was still cozy at the factory of such a republican governor there, it was earlier, in a few months before the elections, and it didn't cause anyone any reactions. of course, from this, i would say, purely professional point of view, if you come to the states a few weeks before the election campaign, you don't need to meet anyone at all, no. not to go anywhere,
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not to visit any factories, limit yourself to three meetings: biden, harris, trump and all. but i would like to remind you of one important thing, we are talking about this plant, right? and i saw an interview of senator linsey graham, i think, who said that the plant is fine, it does not cause real emotions, it is just an excuse for ours. because it is clear that this is a state plant, zelensky went to this plant as the president of a country that needs weapons, the governor is with him - he is also a public servant, well, all this , so to speak, is part of the protocol, it is not known how easy this protocol is refuse when the white house offers it as part of zelensky's stay in the usa, but we were really puzzled by zelensky's interview with the new york magazine, uh... in this interview,
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zelensky was quite skeptical of donald trump's approaches to the end of the war in ukraine and disapproved of this concept of the republican candidate for the position of vice president of the united states jay dee vance. but here again the question arises. then it turns out that the president of ukraine should, in principle, refrain from any evaluations intentions of american politicians. regarding his own country during the presidential election period, and can you find out why? why can all other western politicians evaluate the words of biden, karis, trump, vance, well, the same viktor orban, let’s say there or someone else, they absolutely calmly comment on various statements of the american administration regarding the war in ukraine, or the statements of garis, right? and no one believes that this is interference in the american elections. why exactly, when zelensky
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talks about his attitude to the new yorker magazine j.d. vance's position, which is a national security challenge to his country, he no longer discusses j.d. vance's views on the situation on the border between the united states and mexico, however, he is talking specifically about ukraine. why, from the point of view of linzi graham, this is interference in elections. therefore, a very simple question arises here: what should you not do in order not to inflate them. in other words, at this time of the election, how can you make them think that you are not annoying them, maybe you are annoying them by the very fact of your existence? well, that is, if after all to take it as an axiom that the problem is not in zelensky and not in his behavior and not in the protocol and not in the way he goes somewhere, and not to look for any unprofessional moments in the activities of the ukrainian delegation there or in the statements of our president himself, even if we can to find them, we can sit there and find them and offer them. his help to speaker
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johnson, and if you still agree that this is not a reason, but an excuse, that simply trump's election campaign is built on the idea that he is the president of peace. and haris will be the president of the war, and he said it on election rally in north carolina, and he said it before the meeting with zelenskyi, and he said it during the meeting with zelenskyi, and he said it after the meeting with zelenskyi, so what can zelenskyi do to change this, this election position of his, nothing , that is, the problem, that is, the problem in essence, well, again, in my opinion, not even in them, but the problem in him, that is, in trump , in fact, it is trump who made the whole mess, and by the way, trump spoke in essence such that, in principle, it does not go to the head, and that in general far from any diplomatic etiquette, even despite the fact that, relatively speaking, something could have offended him there, that's what the phrases are worth, there is no ukraine there, it is almost
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destroyed, millions of people died in ukraine, civilization was destroyed there, destroyed cities, in fact he said that there is no such country. well, i’m sorry, it was just a stream of lies, a stream of fakes, and these things, they are far from any protocol at all, even, well, i’m not talking about diplomatic protocol, of any adequacy conducting a political campaign, well, why, well, if trump knows that the people to whom he appeals want to see such a picture of peace, uh, in ukraine and such a picture of the world. in which they are, he paints such a picture for them. by and large, what trump said is exactly the same story as those haitians who eat pets, remember? yes, he saw it on tv, you have to, you have to understand, trump is not making anything up. he saw something,
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someone told him something, he talked to someone. trump in general, this is how he builds his information campaign and his vision of the world from conversations with some people whom he... trusts, this is what trump tells, it means that there are some people next to him who tell him all this, he perceives it that way information, you will understand, trump is not a person who sits day and night with the newspaper new york post or new york times, and studies some serious news, reads some official memos, as you remember when he became the president of the united states, he even refused reports from the united states intelligence services. and said that he does not need all these documents, he is not interested in it, he works differently, he selects some people whom he trusts. the quality of these people is already on the conscience of donald trump. these people can live either in their own world, or be guided by some narratives that are beneficial to those with whom they themselves cooperate, and they
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put all this delusion in his head and he then broadcasts it, this is reality. and by the way, it is necessary to clearly understand that when he becomes the president of the united states, if he becomes, then it will be what it will be. determine his policy, well, me i'm not talking about anything else, you see that zelensky met with him, but can we say that he convinced him of something, no? trump continued to repeat in the presence of zelensky that he is on good terms with zelensky, and he is on good terms with putin, that putin wants to stop the war, and that this is a wonderful vision, and that this is the way to act, and it is necessary to understand that if trump becomes the president of the united states, he will clearly tell zelensky that he is on good terms with putin, and if zelensky wants something... then he should talk to putin, and with him, as with friends, yes, if they are on good terms, and all these phrases of zelensky that putin killed many people and destroyed, they somehow do not scare trump, trump says that ukraine destroyed, so that millions of people died in ukraine, that
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children are fighting in ukraine, that this is a terrible situation that has never happened, it is true, but at the same time he considers it absolutely normal in this situation from the field. from a moral point of view to be on good terms with the person who did all this, well, according to his own statements, she destroyed the whole country, killed millions of people, even if it is a lie, but we are talking about now , we are quoting trump himself, he is at war with children and the elderly, and he is donald trump on good terms with this person, and why, the question arises, what kind of friends do you have, but a good question arises, why... this person, who committed such crimes according to your own version, is your friend, why should you not be on good terms with him, well no i know, this also raises questions for me, but if we are talking about the fact that trump, after all changed his mind, i.e. trump essentially first, as
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they say, threw mike johnson to the forefront of this election campaign, yes, that is, soon mike johnson did not make such a decision himself, rather than... all that this decision to write this letter in such a also in an aggressive, non-diplomatic way, in relation to markarova, in relation to ukraine's actual support there, zelensky allegedly said. so, in essence, it was trump who was most likely an accomplice to this, first of all, whether trump’s team or trump’s team, or his team, or the entourage that trump has, and then trump changes his point of view, still meets with zelensky, here his technologists or his entourage told trump that it is still better to meet and demonstrate that he is such a president, supposedly a peacemaker, or is it just that trump has a different point every day sight in principle on
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something, because very often, and i honestly don’t think, you know, we just very often observed that trump says one thing on monday, says another thing on tuesday, says a third thing on thursday, already a fourth thing on sunday, well, look, i don't have any clear understanding at all whether the meeting between zelenskyi and trump was agreed upon at the time of zelenskyi's arrival in the united states, you and i must also remember that we have a team from the ukrainian side. who believes that she can coordinate everything and inform about it in advance, because she can't not meet with zelensky, right? we live here in the same situation as there. and they imagined that they were preparing this meeting, they had no confirmation, but here, in the background of the preparation of this meeting, that they asked for a meeting, a trip to this plant, and trump just starts to get mad, what is it here... you want to meet with me, and you stab me in the back, you spit, ah, i will show you, and starts to declare all this, it may
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not be a cancellation of the meeting, mr. andriy , this may not be a confirmation of the meeting, which was not agreed upon, but what happens next, it is necessary to show strength, but also nobility, respect for the one who declared himself the winner, trump is no longer just meeting with zelensky, he is printing... in his social networks a letter from zelensky, who asks him about the meeting, do you remember, yes, this is the letter that was sent by one of the ukrainian diplomats on behalf of zelensky to trump, dear donald, we need to meet, talk, i really respect, all that, and as if zelensky is apologizing, admitting , how great trump is, well, trump is ready to meet with him then after this letter, but i want to remind you that... other heads of state did not have any problems with meeting with trump, no one made any
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claims to them, no one demanded letters from them, no one published this official correspondence on social networks, but the desire to humiliate in this way was only in relation to zelensky, to show that he should respect me there and understand how great i am, and how i did not lead, and how great he is from the prem 'there are. great britain's kier starmer was not like that, his team arranged a meeting, agreed, they had dinner with the president of the united arab emirates, as you understand, it was not like that either, he met with trump, there was a cordial meeting, no questions for him trump did not express, although all these people, they met with both biden and harris, so trump understands perfectly well that ideologically, the prime minister of great britain is much closer to kamela harris than to him, but... but it didn't hurt anything. trump in great britain supports completely different political forces, he supports nigel farage. i supported
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the most, i would say, conservative leaders inclined to leave the european union, nothing. he will take it easy after dinner with kir starr. that is, he needed not just to meet with zelensky, but to show zelensky's dependence on him before this meeting. and the fact that he can even say something bad about zelensky, call him a salesman. to say that zelenskyi is spreading some dirty things about him, publicly, and zelenskyi will still ask for a meeting, will not get anywhere, and this is also his, his behavior in relation to zelenskyi, to ukraine, who should simply give himself an account in the fact that he perceives it that way, that for him ukraine is such a subject or object that he can simply he can publicly disparage and agree on ukraine with putin, but he has facts about it... he also said during his election campaign that he would agree with putin, and he has good relations with him, so he
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would agree with him. well, as they say, we have what we have, one more thing is very interesting, in fact, you and i have already started talking about the victory plan, about the fact that at first it was very brilliantly announced, it was talked about in the ukrainian information space for a month in a row, foreign media wrote about him. about him zelenskyi and ukrainian experts, ukrainian politicians there spoke personally, yes, but you really rightly and absolutely noted that the last two days... in essence, zelenskyi’s stay in the united states of america, at least today, is already about the victory plan, for some reason all these people , or prefer not to mention it, or at least try to smooth out mentions of it, and at the same time, a number of western, american, in particular publications say, say that the united states was not
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satisfied, or the united states of america was not satisfied with this victory plan, that the white house... was also quite skeptical about this victory plan, in particular the wall street journal writes about it, and you really mentioned it, then what was the point of going with this victory plan, if and we talked with you, and in principle, before this , information appeared in the foreign press that, well, we apologize, but all these points are practically unrealistic to implement, at least now, and here... we are observing that this whole issue is really being proven, as they say, bring down, let go on the brakes, and now we should probably try to talk about it much less, here is the question, why was it all done, and the second question, after all, whether in the future , in your opinion, the ukrainian authorities are going to mention,
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force this issue, or everything well, we will forget about it, we will throw it into such a ... information trash can, that's all these things, and we will talk about something next, well , of course, this is a plan of information measures, which, it seems to me, is designed not so much for western partners, but on ukrainian society, so that ukrainian society understood there just one thing, and it is dangerous enough by the way, here zelensky will go to the united states, propose a plan, this plan is calculated even before the end of his term of office. president biden, they will quickly give us everything we need, they cannot help but give it, and the war will be over in a few months, and how else? well, again, when they said that this is a plan, this is a plan for the current administration, it’s just that zelensky wants to introduce trump, trump and garis to him, it looked very strange
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to me, incredibly strange, but to people, if you understand , for people who are used to it to perceive information measures. power as a political reality, it doesn't look strange, and you can actually see what many people are saying, listen, well, in a month, another war will end, why buy eyes, inverters there for houses, why, why send a child to school somewhere in places a temporary stay, when in a month we will move anyway, the war will be over, you have not seen or met with such situations, well, this is actually, mr. vitaly, and it is... a bigger problem that we are essentially in this way we mislead people, i.e. people's opinion, in my subjective opinion, i think it's better for people to tell the truth as it is, because then a situation arises that then we fool people in something, they count on something or don't count on it for something, they don't plan their life
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correctly, and then they become even more disappointed, and we talked about it with you there and then. and last time, that people should understand how to build their lives at least there for three months, six months, a year, two years, if they don't do it, they will then will face further disappointment that every month they will be told that listen, that's all, in a month the war will end in two, three, six months, well, this will probably not have a positive effect there on the same energy efficiency, on education, which you mentioned , on on on in general life. people on their planning, i'm sorry, family life, employment, their place of residence and so on and the like, you can give many such examples, mr. andriy, the most important thing is because if i think that the war will be over in two months, the question arises, why should i go to the armed forces now, oh and risk my life in the last
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two months, when it is clear that everything ... is finalizing, well, it is, but you know, this is from our point of view, but it is possible to apply another point of view, as you understand, which will consist in the fact that people have a short memory, especially during such critical events, and they are always from faith, from of the new faith at the end of the war , they switch to a new faith, but now the victory plan did not work, and they are already talking about it forgot, as you rightly say, we still remember him, he is almost absent in the information space. zelensky returned from the united states, he talked with biden there, he talked with harris, he talked with trump, everyone talked with him, and this is the truth, this is reality, he met with... the current president, with the candidates for the position of the president of the united states, which is not enough to be the political content of this visit, not a plan to win, it all just happened what was supposed to happen, because the plan for 40 days before
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the presidential election of the united states none will work, none, but now there will be other important events, ramstein, the summit of the four, yes, the peace summit, for example, yes, now you can prepare the peace summit. and to say, there will be a second peace summit, there, remember, they wanted to hold it before the presidential elections in the united states, they also seriously talked about it, that it should be held before the presidential elections in the united states, i also cannot understand at all, but for what, and for what, and what is the point, but they talked about it seriously, absolutely, well, here is the answer to your question, so there will be a new information plan, well... and if we live in this world of information activities of the office of the president of ukraine, and our main idea will not be how to survive during a long-term endless war, but how to convince
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people, to convince people of everyone once it is about to end, this basically means that we are talking to people like small children, who do not need to plan anything for the future, who just have to live with ka in a fairy tale, and this fairy tale. .. the main thing is that it does not end, the main thing is not to lead to a situation where they find out suddenly, that saint nicholas does not exist for this, you can imagine, there is no need to bring them to such disappointment, there is saint nicholas, he will bring gifts, the war will end in a month, if it ended in november, then it will end in january. well, remember that in 2022, the president will be at his best. it seems to me that he said to the citizens of the first on the night of december 31 of the 22nd year, on january 1 of the 23rd year: "well, in the 23rd year , it cannot be as it was in the 22nd." i couldn't
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understand why he says that, what does it mean he can't? in the 23rd year it can be worse than in the 22nd and the 24th are worse than the 23rd, this is a war, a multi-year war, in some new year it may be worse than in the previous one. why should people be set up for this, even on new year's eve, but i sometimes feel... it seems to me that you know that the president himself believes in this, that we are talking about some information measures, and the problem may be in the reality in which he himself is president, that it is easier for him to find himself in this reality, that if he gives himself an account of where he really ended up as a result of his actions, as a person, i do not as a head of state, that is, as a person , as a result of the fact that he decided to change his career from an actor to a political one, it will be much more difficult to fulfill his duties, because he will constantly ask himself the question: how yes, well, how did this happen to me, why? i should have understood this, and
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it seems to me that the president should be in such a shape that he, well, as much as he can, as much as he is capable in terms of efficiency, that he protected the state interests of ukraine, because again, you and i do not have no possibility to choose a new one power, that means for as many years as the war will continue, there is an option that this power, even in an imperfect form, because it will exist against any government of national unity. and that zelensky will have to fulfill his duties as head of state, well, maybe for another 5-7 years. i do not know, again, i will not say that the war will continue for 5-7 years, but it could be so. once again, we have to tell people that there are no political prerequisites for ending this war. if military-technical issues arise, we need them for this to do a lot: stop russia, overcome infrastructure problems, create a situation where russia will not be able to continue economically. war, we and the west must create it, and it is not just one year, as you understand, and certainly not one day, so this power must be effective, if we
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cannot, we believe that resettlement into the world of reality, it would not only the citizens as such, but also the president of ukraine himself, what is he like, i would say, a bright model of an average ukrainian, maybe that's why people voted for him, he is like them, and not like these politicians whom they did not want to see on the whole state, then maybe we... it would be more comfortable with you too not to tear the world president from his own illusions, it's just a question, i don't know , i don’t have an answer to this question, actually i also wonder why we constantly find some excuses, at least to talk about what in principle cannot be in theory, or what will not be in theory, but alas, you see , we are talking about it. by the way, another topic that we never discussed in the security block, but which is direct concerns and in particular these visits to the united states of america, this is an opportunity to beat
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the odds. the depth of the enemy with long-range missiles or with any missiles there is 300-400-500 km , it doesn't matter, but to hit the enemy's territory, on his infrastructure facilities, on his logistics facilities, on military facilities, that is, on everything , which should have stopped the russians on the battlefield. for two weeks, at least, this... the informational one is red tape again, for two weeks we expected that there would be such permission, but we did not receive this permission received even after zelenskyi's visit, at least officially, and at least we still do not have such applications, examples of such applications, nevertheless, why in this case is biden hesitating, biden is hesitating, the biden administration is hesitating.
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well, accordingly, the united states of america hesitates to provide such an opportunity to ukraine, even now, is it possible that biden is waiting for the presidential elections to be held, i also have a theory that maybe he does not want to do it until the conditional day x , in order not to give, for example, there the trump himself has some trump cards in his hands, yes, informational trump cards, that too. there may be an opinion, whether it is possible that these things will be transferred with such baggage to the new administration, conditionally speaking, in your opinion, we have been discussing this for so many days, and there is still no definitive answer, why we did not receive permission to strike on the territory of russia, which had would at least partially stop the advance of the enemy, which
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you and i, including... talked about, well, first of all, i really agree with you completely that if i were in biden's place, i would not approve no sharp decisions, on those issues that are part of the election campaign, if trump says during the election campaign that if they give permission to ukraine to attack russian territory with our missiles, then they will create the conditions for the third world war, and i will save you from world war iii, then you should definitely not make any decisions that support this statement. and by the way, i think that when vladimir putin changes the nuclear doctrine, he is also messing with the american elections here. that is, actually by his actions confirms trump's words. so, at least until november 5, you are absolutely right, you need to get not only permits, but also any actions in this direction. secondly, i am inclined to the opinion that
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there will be no public permission for ukraine to bombard the territory of russia with western missiles at all. russian allies do not give any permission to russia, we simply find fragments of iranian shaheds or north korean missiles there, but no one in tigheran comes forward and says: we allowed them to hit ukraine with our shaheds, on the contrary, the iranian president says that we have never delivered anything, and we even condemn russia's aggression against ukraine, as masoud pezuchkiyan said at the session of the un general assembly, let's talk. and why the western allies of ukraine? have to make public statements, so that could be the situation, and i think that it continues to be debated, i don't think that if the matter had not been discussed, the secretary of state, antony blinken, and the british foreign secretary, david lemin, had not come b to kyiv, there would not have been this long meeting between starmer and biden, after all, this dinner between starmer and trump would not have happened. such issues
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are usually discussed during such events. meetings, it is absolutely obvious to me, but in any case i assume that the final decision, if there is any, will be during this summit of the four in germany and during ramstein at the level of the leaders, it can again be discussed there , whether this latest escapade of putin will affect the adoption of this decision, yes. i'll tell you honestly, it can affect, maybe, as far as i don't know, whether or not it will affect it the solution in general is the number of missiles that we have at our disposal, this is also a very good question, with what arsenal we can operate now, and how much the number that we have, even if it will be used on the territory of the russian federation, will change the military-technical course of the war , that is, if correct...

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