let's face it, i was the commander of a reconnaissance platoon, and when two reconnaissance groups are put forward for a mission in parallel, they do not know the mission of one of the other groups, because if one of them gets captured, god forbid, he can tell about the mission of the other group, which is doing tasks in parallel, so there are many safeguards to avoid that, because it's war, that's how people die, people get captured, and that's what we understand, and when we join the troops, and when we are united, not separated by ipsoros. by what federation our some misunderstanding situation, then we will be effective when we go to the army, we join voluntarily, now recruiting is taking place in our unit , the third assault 58th, 28th, 54th brigade, a separate artillery brigade, that is, you can apply to come immediately, for example, to a separate artillery brigade, you say i want to be an artilleryman, that's all, we take you, you become an artilleryman, that is, it should be done when, not when, er... you they stopped tsk, they took you

away, you went to bzvp, passed, got into some unfamiliar team, that is, now many recruiting centers, i.e. military personnel, brigade commanders are engaged in recruiting, recruiting personnel, and i am saying this, well, about the national guard of ukraine, because a serviceman of the national guard of ukraine, these processes take place constantly in our country, they are the same in the armed forces, we see bigboards happening and the military is working on it at... 120% some are there at 150 doing hr, pr, everybody these buzzwords i learned during a full scale invasion because we have to advertise, recruit personnel, we are already, you know, business projects, we are stupid, the brigade is a company that provides certain services for the state, so you hunt for so and so, and we collect personnel for ourselves, we transfer from other parts, you know, somewhere there we go to another brigade. well, come on, we have better, our borscht

is redder than yours, yes, yes, yes, and we are recruiting personnel, and you know, maybe someone there is in the military and political leadership , consider what someone is doing somewhere, some there deputies receive money, construction, and now many unfortunate situations are happening, speculative situations, such are the last two situations, these are ternopil-ivano-frankivsk regarding the construction... of the constructed building will be 25%, everything else will be commerce, that is, there is already speculation by certain citizens about veterans, military personnel, to get some profit, and these situations will arise, we can see the ukrainian truth, bigus, others. there is butusov plus, espresso, all

other media, some independent media, they cover situations, corruption schemes, some unscrupulous citizens who flee abroad, who are now detained there, and this will happen, these are normal processes for a state in which there is a war going on, which is engaged in the struggle for independence, and if you take the percentage ratio, there are corruption schemes, and i spoke with ... with certain by categories of people, officials, which is now corruption in the ministry of defense, v the ministry of internal affairs, i.e., in the law enforcement agencies, the smallest in the entire history of ukraine's independence. when some precedents arise and the mass media cover them, it shows the capacity of those media, the influence of media, the influence of social networks, the raising of some social problem, an important problem for the army, for the formation of our state and defense.

abilities and then the state and the leadership of our state takes some kind of lever, or someone is removed, or you already know that, or it is not accepted, and even now it may be superfluous, let's talk about the situation when dmytruk fled and the supreme commander initiated a meeting about this situation, that in two weeks there will be some kind of decision, when it was like this a month and a half ago. in my opinion, maybe these decisions were made, but they were not made public, that is, i am talking about the fact that now we all need to communicate with each other, i, as a commander with personnel, the military and political leadership with the military, my subordinates and our citizens also need feedback, a situation has arisen, it needs to be discussed, a solution and not to spread, someone can say, this is secret information, i understand all this, but you can say, we have made a decision, it is happening now. processes to improve this

situation, we went deeper and the minister or deputy minister there, because the minister may be on some trips to improve our influence there on the inter. the people's arena, i understand all this, has spokespersons, there are press officers who can communicate this with the citizens and military personnel of their country, so that this situation is not silenced and there is no heat of this situation and the russian federation is not used, i.e., any situation, whether it is the szch, a serviceman who left and flaunted it, or it is dmytruk who escaped, all this must be communicated and explained to every citizen that these... processes we see, they are happening, and that , that this does not affect the further there, precedents for the arbitrary leaving of parts, we consider why he left, how we can analyze this situation, how we can improve it and what in the future it no influence, commanders, here i can say,

commanders of units in such a military formations, such as the national guard of ukraine, these processes are taking place, that is , some situation has arisen... either it is of a positive nature or a negative nature, we conduct a briefing on this situation and we see what we can take from this situation that has arisen, how can we improve it, and so that this does not happen in the future, you are now drawing a portrait of an ideal commander of any rank in fact, that is, the importance of knowing, understanding what is happening in the heads and souls subordinates, and therefore to build a strategy of one's behavior with these... people, because you spend most of your life with them now, but i would also like to point out that, well, unfortunately, not always as of now, at least the commanders are different, let's call it in general, but

integrity, yes, so there is a solution , which were deliberately adopted and they were deliberately adopted by the wrong side, could lead to tragic consequences, all this is also there, and... this is also a normal manifestation of war, especially such a crazy one intensity actually, at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, our higher military command was characterized what allowed commanders on the ground of various units to make decisions, that is, the moment of this delegation and understanding that a person on the ground sees and understands, and we also trust this person, it was. is it now and is there not, let’s say, a reverse process, when the commanders are perhaps hostages of the old school, let’s call it that, and somewhere they are afraid to raise the problematic issues of their

unit, where they are, relatively speaking, now lead, do we generally have a problem of state commanders? currently in the ukrainian army? er, you know, the problem of commanders, that she is a question, do we have commanders now, they are the same age as me, battalion teams who directly make decisions on the battlefield, there are older ones, there are younger ones, this is right now about combatants, decisions are made on the battlefield must be taken very quickly, as you rightly say, they can be wrong, because it is very large intensity of driving. hostilities, the enemy is using a large number of its reconnaissance means, military weapons and equipment and a large amount of ammunition and a large the number of personnel conducting assault operations. the battalion commander with the company commander who is working, they make

decisions at their level, that is, the battalion commander is given fire equipment, which is included there in the battalion tactical group or simply in the line battalion, and they make decisions there when to introduce... reserves, what means to use, missions at their level use their fire means, their reserves, that is, it happens because, for example, we take battalion commanders there from our military unit, the border offensive guard brigade, they all passed the ranks, if not the platoon commander, then maybe they were even sergeants, the platoon commanders were sergeants, they performed tasks, they were riflemen, grenade launchers, machine gunners, and more promising. .. they then have a career ladder that allows them, and whether they are a platoon commander, a military commander, they go to battalion management, they understand how these processes happening from below, these teams understand how scary it is to be in the trenches when you they storm the enemy, but you have to take action, you have to

repulse, because if you know, there is such a situation, it is very simple, you are standing in a position and you are afraid to watch, but you don't see that landing, you don't see the enemy, you just crouch down and you ... so more, you know, on some subconscious level it's calmer, but when you understand that if you don't do it, they'll come and kill you, they'll take you prisoner, or they'll kill your brothers and you do it, you are afraid, you do it and you... understand, you see the enemy, you enter into it in a shooting battle, you destroy it, and you know it, a shooting battle sounds very exciting now, for me personally and the personnel, because to conduct a shooting battle you have to survive a lot of artillery fire, a lot of fpv raids and drones with a reset, that is it's very difficult, and these battalion commands, these roth commanders, they were, at the beginning of a full-scale invasion , just personnel who carried out the task and... and when they rise, they want to make the right decisions, and for example, by

to the national guard of ukraine, i want to say, personally, who, who should i be afraid of, that is, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow i will go to the line of combat collision and me, if a guided aerial bomb dropped from a plane from the territory of the russian federation does not kill me, or i have an fpv , or somewhere... it will be necessary to go to reinvestment and i will be killed there by some arlan, who will see me and be killed by the artel system krasnopolem, that is, it can happen, and it can happen to anyone, to the brigade commander, because it is primarily these means that are found to destroy ksprigada that there was a loss of leadership, there are many competent battalion commanders and rod commanders, and for example, in our part i do not see. there is a critical situation regarding incompetent commanders, because

you know, the entire infrastructure of the national guard of ukraine, we are such a closed military formation with many functions, protection of important state facilities, patrolling of territories, mass events at which representatives of the national guard of ukraine are also present, i want to say that i started my service in the 14th year in the 50th regiment, which is based on ivano-frankivsk region. and those military personnel who guard burshtynska tes or patrol the stations in ivano-frankivsk, they fought for our independence in the sereblyam forest six months ago, and these teams of sergeant-major soldiers, they lost their comrades, they saw the enemy in the crosshairs of their small arms, they were destroying it, and now they're back there on rotation, somebody got hurt, they're dealing with that now patrolling, and i really, well , honestly... i was driving here, i thought about it, i really did i am proud because i am serving in the national guard of ukraine, because from us,

if servicemen or officers are transferred somewhere, they are transferred either to the security service of ukraine or to the main intelligence agency, because there are prospects there, someone understands that he is better in this or that, and we have our own academy that trains officers, and many officers and brigade commanders are sent to that academy with injuries, who in the future , they teach our future officers their experience, that is, this experience is analyzed and such processes are taking place, yes, in some directions, in very important directions, there, for example, let's take the pokrovsky direction, to which all the attention of the ukrainian society is focused there, we are looking, we are losing, as you said, the situation there is very difficult, and also units of the national guard of ukraine are also deployed there, and maybe somewhere... with some vision, he wants to improve the situation and descends to the bottom

of his seats there from kyiv and wants to help there, and you know, well, i hope in because people who go down to that level and give instructions there, they want to help brigade commanders and battalion commanders conscientiously and from the bottom of their hearts, there are simply many situations and mr. korotevych steps up. regarding the release of sodol, and there are many others, as i said, this is the same process as with corruption, that is, we are all people, military personnel, the armed forces, the national guard of ukraine, these are ordinary citizens who you can meet in the subway, in the cinema , in any coffee shop, because in the same coffee shop as we are sitting with you now, in short, some of them are unpleasant, this is normal, as ukrainian society, none of us are 100% cool, i just can't say that, i... i can afford it, but i totally understand what you're talking about, especially when we live in a world

of total live air, sometimes its so much that it seems to us that all we see is, you know, all this is our planet, and it is everywhere, and this is how it happens absolutely 100%, although we must understand that journalists always tell individual stories, which can definitely indicate some trends, but that's what we're talking about. about them, so that it does not turn into a trend, but ok, i actually wanted to ask, you are a hero of ukraine, but i was thinking about it... should you have gotten a gold star, right? er, it was such a situation in june of 22nd, er, you know, there the day happened in such a way that if you survived until lunch, that's good, if you survived that day, it's generally chic, and looking at some material values , merits, i had personnel when i was called to the ksp of the rubizh tactical group,

to inform that it might or might not be there. the supreme commander in our ksp, i i want to award you the title of hero of ukraine with the award of the order of the gold star. i say, what is the order of the golden star, i have guys there in positions, i took some water, took food and went back to the platoon stronghold, because there were constant assaults, it was then, we were in the middle of the severo-donetsk area, and the enemy wanted to destroy the bridges, the enemy wanted to break through, i.e. in any way there were constant air raids, constant artillery strikes, constant tank strikes, i.e. armored groups that attacked just ours platoon companies of the base point and there the battalion lines of defense, it happened along the entire line of contact of ours in the settlement of severodonetsk, and i simply did not have time, i did not think about it, i had to return, just to leave the base point and get to

the command post of the tactical group, it was necessary to carry out a special operation during which you could be killed, you had to be there. to run under artistic shelling, then under the fire of an enemy machine gun it was necessary to run across, that is, it was a very difficult situation. you had problems with logistics, problems with logistics, and taking into account all this, i simply did not see the expediency of presenting any awards at that stage of the conduct of hostilities by me personally, by my personnel, and it was not important to me at all, that is, i have, i have the area for which i am responsible, and for me there were very important processes there. that were happening, and i didn't want to leave there for a minute or an hour, because i'm leaving my staff, i'm leaving units to the left, to the right without intelligence, that is, they were complexity, and in my opinion at that time there were many servicemen who deserved this award more than me, and therefore i refused, said that i did not want to receive it, i was going to my staff,

the brigade commander persuaded me, did not persuade, but communicated, caused psychological pressure on me. in my official duties, the commander of the tactical group, and my comrades, when they said, yes, commander, you are worthy, you must take, take everything, and then i stayed and got the rank, thank you for that, for what you then got, and for the fact that i now i have the opportunity to talk to you about this, in particular, and 8 hours at the start of a large-scale invasion, gostomel, the importance of the airfield and understanding why the russians focused on it in such a way. it is not a secret for anyone now, well at least for people who are interested in our war, that the russians needed this site in order to land their military transport planes with everything they need in the future and thus already work up the resource that should engage in the occupation of our capital, and this was avoided thanks to

to you and your brothers, in your other interviews you called the first eight hours a decision... and ukraine correctly used this time, mobilized, were there other such peak moments for you during these 2.5 years that you at least saw for yourself , which we took advantage of and actually had certain periods, and maybe peak moments that we missed, you know, those... hours, actually, as i said in past interviews, they were very important for our citizens, and a full-scale invasion began like a war, the enemy attacked us in the morning, struck suddenly, and i understood that all day our citizens can have a military presence, there is a general headquarters,

the national guard of ukraine can mobilize, plan and everything, we have to do our duty as military personnel. to restrain the enemy, it is possible to die, and everyone in me was ready to die, we were then in the luhansk region, our part of the servicemen, the military unit was in gostomel, and these servicemen, you know, this was the unity between all the commanders and all the personnel of the defense forces and security of ukraine, so that everyone understands, now or never, and the strength of the defense and security of ukraine, they fulfilled their function and held out, holding back a colossal number of the enemy. aviation, because serhii falatiuk was there, at the gostomil airfield, he shot down the helicopters that came in, and he was there with the conscripts of our military unit, they restrained the enemy, and that's from'. along our entire line of contact and along the entire border with the russian federation, that is, each commander fulfilled these tasks, and you know, in the future of such a more significant, more

weighty, social unity, i may not felt for 2.5 years, there was a path ahead, you know, the path along which we were walking, there were obstacles somewhere, a certain number of military personnel, it will continue to be united. with this common opinion, which began at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, that is, this unity, and my personnel, the military personnel with whom i met, we continue to communicate, and no one is ready and does not want to leave the defense and security forces, these are my brothers, paratroopers - assault troops, air forces, ground troops, tank formations, reconnaissance units, the sbu, the group, that is, everyone. i know, i met many strong, worthy servicemen, servicemen of the defense forces of ukraine, and this is one that still holds, there are situations that we took advantage of

and that will be in the future, this is the defense operation in kurshchyna, a situation that did not work out for us, this is our counteroffensive in the south of ukraine, that is, you know, there are many such situations, and the situation... the greatest tragedy, and perhaps the greatest joy, can happen in a small circle, let's take the zaporizhia direction there, any direction, limansky direction, the greatest tragedy can happen when a bullet fired by some russian military kills someone's son, someone's daughter, or someone's father, or sister, it will be the biggest tragedy on our planet, for the family, for our nation, for our of the state, because... our citizen died, who should live and advance our country into the future, into our prosperous future, and this situation they for

many citizens, they are special because that's when i was, you know, these situations are the most difficult, when you attend a funeral, or you it is reported that someone has died, and recently we were hiding a scout from our military unit. yehor, and i handed over the flag with the words on behalf of the president of ukraine, supreme commander-in-chief, i ask you to accept this flag as a symbol of the state, which your son served faithfully and to the end, and when the mother began to just sob and cry, and she accepts this flag, and she understands that our struggle continues, she has lost her son, but she has not lost the country. and my voice is shaking when i say this, she did not lose the country, and this unity, it is still in there are us, and we unite in such difficult critical situations, and

we still have this critical situation, because as we talked with you at the beginning, when the enemy hits the vivat publishing house in kharkiv, he destroys our books, he destroys our culture, when he hits institutes, when he hits schools, he wants to destroy our intellectual component so that we don't develop. but our citizens continue to print books in the ukrainian language, write poems, develop new means of reb, develop new uavs that can smoke warehouses in the depths of the russian federation, new citizens who carry out security operations in kurshchyna are also joining, the same ones who have been fighting for 2.5 years, they are losing their health, and they are not going to the szz, and they will continue to fight in the pokrovsk region. and we have enough strong citizens and enough strength and motivation to resist the russian federation in the future. thank you for this conversation. i will remind our viewers that we had the opportunity to talk

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