should list, because this is how the western decision-making system works, and they are basically engaged in this, whether some real impression is made on them and forces them to abandon their actions there, i think not quite, because indeed, after the start of a large-scale war, the russians more than 30 times made official statements about, well, with threats of nuclear strikes, and it is clear that many in the west do not react to this, but they cannot at the same time abandon these... er minimal there is a certain percentage of probability that it can still happen, so all that putin gains here by making such statements is that he slightly postpones the adoption of those decisions that are important for ukraine itself, or forces, for example, partner countries, well in this case we are interested in three countries, it is the united states, france and britain, so it forces them to do something, for example, to review how this permission will be given, what will be the format of this. permission, maybe at first

they wanted to do it more publicly, now they will do it there not publicly at all, well that is, there are options here, i think that these options are being talked about quite actively now, and we had to and our delegation had to be ready for these options, well, listen, right here it is elementary, well, you can calculate and expect that when we fly with such a proposal, there will obviously be some kind of reaction from the russian federation, well, what, well, nuclear threats, nuclear threats, especially since they discussed these changes to the nuclear doctrine a couple of months ago, this too something is not new there, so you need to have a ready-made set here arguments why it won't work, we already included the anti-crisis a little later, the interviews that began to appear there , including from the president, and after the visit of the delegation, they showed, as it were, that we expected that russia would will do, it should not become an obstacle there and so on, but our partners need to understand it to some extent, so a little time. putin,

relatively speaking, won for himself and for russia, but this time, well, at least as of today, it is not critical, that is, it is not a strategic decision, it is a tactical decision character ugh. i also want to talk to you about dubious peace initiatives. in fact, switzerland supported the so-called peace initiative of china and brazil, it really appeared, and conditionally speaking, it is being discussed. including the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, but let's put it in order, the department of foreign affairs of switzerland stated that the country would support the so-called peace initiative of china and brazil regarding the war in ukraine, but emphasized the importance of sending a reference to the un charter in such peaceful plans and in that at the same time, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine expressed disappointment over switzerland's support for the sino-brazilian initiative. census regarding ukraine. we cannot

understand the logic of such a decision. we call on the swiss confederation and all countries that support international law and the un charter to avoid participating in so-called peace initiatives that can only complicate the process of achieving a comprehensive, just and sustainable peace for ukraine. actually, this is a statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. but in the same time by the way appears viktor orbán, prime minister of hungary, during the un general assembly in new york he worked according to some media on the organization of a peace summit, which should be a continuation of his so-called peacekeeping mission, we remember this peacekeeping mission, when he came to kyiv, to moscow, and in fact, where russia should be invited, and in fact

in this way he supported this peace plan of china and brazil, mr. igor, to what extent do you consider such initiatives to be real, can it really be assumed that it will play a role any significant role in the international arena, is this information noise of china that wants to advance... its position and its certain hegemony in the international arena, please, i would say that it is even, you know, information spam, so they are trying to in a way to draw attention to itself somewhere, while it looks like this, for two reasons: firstly, they never presented a normal plan of any kind, that is normal, there are some six points that they they said, well, it's not serious, you will then come up with something serious a document where each point, each point will have an explanation of why it is. and why exactly in

this wording, they don't do it, and i'm convinced that they won't be able to do it, because they will immediately get involved in the charter of the united nations organization, you understand, they will immediately get involved in the fact that... how to interpret these or those provisions and certain actions of the russian federation. the phrase, which the russians like to use, about the nation's right to self-determination, is ridiculous in relation to certain regions of ukraine, because no donbas, luhansk or crimean people does not exist a priori. and they all know this very well. and the same china cannot even complain about this matter, because there are at least two peoples, two nations living on the territory of china, which have tens of millions, and which do not. of their country, the uyghurs and tibetans, actually, yes, and in this context, china, well, it will not be able to somehow come up with a real concrete plan, this is the first point, and the second point, why it is still nothing more than informational spam, because the so-called this platform is friends of peace and so

on, and what exactly will it do, what kind of work will they do there, what will they do, communicate via skype, zoom and hold some meetings there about what, who authorized them, they are in... talks with ukraine, if you are talking about the end of the war, which is going on in ukraine, then first of all you should probably turn to ukraine, they are not doing anything about it, and you know, one more interesting point, the chinese representatives are very fond of saying, and the russians repeated them, that the chinese peace plan, the so-called was supported by more than 100 countries, but i really want to to look at these 100 countries, while there they collected a little more than a dozen, and of course the position of switzerland is a little disappointing, because it is an attempt for two... to sit somewhere, but in the end, you could expect something like this, as, by the way, from the hungarians , but this will actually be a problem for europe and about hungary specifically for the european union, where they participate and in what format they participate, we need to be ready for this, that there will be such initiatives are yet to appear,

perhaps this is not the only such platform out there will still be formed, but in fact, commenting on all of them, as the ministry of foreign affairs does, is the right reaction, sufficiently operative, justified. in principle, there are no major issues, but again, we must not forget that we must present our plan at that time, which will interrupt all these plans presented by some other countries over there, and when our delegation goes, the plan is presented to the united states states to our partners, and until now you and i do not know anything about him, so about him then other countries of the world, which are not our concrete allies in this war, do not know anything and do not help us fight back. from the aggression of the russian federation, maybe the time has already come, in principle, to publish this plan, at least in general terms, and in this way to intercept even this information, well, information initiative, which china is now trying to kill behind itself, and hungary is somehow there

before that joins, and some other countries are speculating, so the turn is actually ours, the reaction of the ministry of foreign affairs is great, but to say your idea is bad. you need to come up with your idea and prove how it differs from this so- called platform, and why this platform cannot exist in this format. well , we hope that the promises made by our head, who is responsible for foreign policy, i mean the head of the president's office, will come true and soon this plan will finally be published, and not only ukrainians, but also all other countries will get to know it . well, of course, we will wait for this complete plan, i think that it is ukrainian society. including should know and should see what the president of ukraine traveled to the united states of america with, but we will watch all this, mr. igor, we are sincerely grateful to you for joining the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. thank you ihor aiterovych, political scientist, head of

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our analytics, now khrystyna yatskiv will join us, and we will start talking about all the topics that i have already announced, but before, yes, khrystyna is already here, khrystyna , good evening, viewers, glad to see, but before we'll... start talking, i'll remind you about our survey, and then we'll start, we're asking you if you're satisfied with the results of zelensky's visit to... the united states of america, if you think so, you can take your phones absolutely free or smartphones and vote 0800 211 381, if you think not, 0800 3802, 211 382, ​​you see all the numbers on your screens, and more once i emphasize

that your calls are absolutely free, at the end of this hour we will sum up the results of our vote with you, and today at we will have two main such topics, the first topic is, of course, negotiations or peace plans, which are increasingly being talked about, written about by western mass media, about what ukrainians say on the streets, in kitchens, what is discussed on youtube channels and tv channels, that is. negotiations, this is, of course, a victory plan and actually what may or may not happen in the coming months, we will figure it out, but the most interesting thing is that this is the victory plan that we have been talking about with you, probably for more than one week, its ukrainians not yet shown, that is, we saw some pieces

in foreign mass media, we saw what american experts said about it. and american politicians, but they haven't talked about it with the ukrainians yet, you see, and the head of the president's office, andriy yermak, said on the air of the one news telethon that this victory plan will finally be shown to the ukrainians, but be careful, without some hidden details. let's listen to what mr. yermak said, this is... the president's plan and certainly as he promised after the presentation to the president of the united states, partners, i think it will be presented to the ukrainians, but i can tell you, there are definitely parts, they are so very sensitive, they are closed, and not because there are

secrets, this is our country, we all, you know, today ... in the good sense of the word, we are such a really single family in which there can be no secrets, especially during the war, but still, you know, everything that happens becomes public, and it is heard not only among us in country, even the enemy hears it. at the same time, part of the western press writes about possible negotiations, and talks about it... differently countries are talking about it, we have already repeatedly emphasized it and in germany, olaf scholz says about it, they are talking about it in china, in brazil, we see that hungary is joining, switzerland is joining this, but actually including the press writes, actively writes about it, writes about the victory plan,

writes about possible negotiations, in particular elpais, there is such and such a publication. it says that zelensky is preparing for negotiations, under this heading appeared an article in the spanish newspaper that i just mentioned to you, in particular, it is about a critical crossroads, in which ukraine found itself on the eve of the presidential elections in the united states of america and after 2.5 years of a full-scale invasion, in particular, a quote: a war that has reached a stalemate on the battlefield has reached the stage of maturity which... is and which is the most dangerous the future of ukraine and europe as a whole will be uncertain if its allies simply give in to the aggressor's blackmail. as in any peace negotiations, as zelensky knows, each side will have to make concessions. but what cannot be given up is safety and security

of free and sovereign ukraine - writes el pais. here are two such theses, in particular, khrystyna, i don’t know if you watched the first part of our program, we talked about this chinese-brazilian plan, where they want to advance something, orbán is already communicating with these countries, traveling back and forth within of its peace initiatives, switzerland allegedly joins proposals for such negotiations, at the same time... we see that president zelensky is traveling to the united states of america, meeting with trump, with harris, with by current president joe biden and represents the victory plan, as i have already emphasized, this victory plan was talked about many times and even some part of the points, there are five, six, nine, someone demonstrated in

the western press, in particular, the times newspaper published about it, but here we see such a statement by yermak, when he talks about the fact that some part will still be closed, well , to be honest, let it be... will be my subjective opinion, it seems strange to me that the situation that after this plan has already been seen by a huge number of people and when it was already published in the press that some points of this plan should be closed, and actually so that the russian federation would not see them, well, unless they are some kind of appendices, unless it is something related to, let's say, the military some kind some specific things, yes, but in general, if we talk about the general, general postulates of this victory plan, i think that, in

principle, it should have been known to ukrainians for a long time, that first of all, people and society are ukrainian, it is number one, who must know for what purpose, with what plans, with what the government is going somewhere with a vision, strategically, i mean. strategically, where we are moving, and here we are still, today is already september 30, today is already the end of the first decade of autumn, and we have not actually seen a detailed plan. what is your opinion, khrystyna, about this whole situation? there are many plans, and of course, we, as ukrainians, are guided by the plan declared by the president of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyy does this in his meetings with those who are directly involved in making decisions about helping us, and

in general, in the implementation of this plan, but i always have a question about how different plans converge, in which points, how much they diverge, and we understand that, well, these are very often fundamentally completely different things. in some plans, we have already seen how they are trying to highlight the interests of the russian federation, at least from those that it declared at the start of a large-scale invasion, and we have seen how with these plans they are trying to save the resource potential of russia, because it is also being depleted, despite a rather large this potential, and on the other hand we see that... each of the plans that are proposed, or that are ready to be supported by our allies, is still about the fact that ukraine should remain a sovereign state, and that is already

good, although, in my opinion, this is somewhat insufficient, because certainly, the plan is the minimum, on the other hand, and the maximum of our victory in... in this war is the preservation of the sovereignty of our country, another question, unfortunately, i think it might sound a little cynical, another question, within what limits, in whose borders, on what conditions, on what basis, the main thing is to preserve, again, you know, everything else will already be strung on this basis, and there are many plans, i personally was a little confused by ermak's thesis... on the topic that ukrainians will be ready to understand why some of the points of zelenskyi's plan are being hidden from them for now , the enemy hears everything, says the head of the president's office, the main thing is that we

see the results of these points of the plan on the battlefield and inside the russian federation, hinting that we are talking about the military component, and they are not ready to show it to us yet, but we hope they are already showing it to those on whom approval depends. decisions, no matter how much we talked about the plans, i do not see the main thing, the readiness of the russian federation , at least somehow in general, at least somehow to cast an eye on any proposals, well, ours, not ours, chinese-brazilian ones, well, i do not hear from public figures of the russian federation that they are ready to consider something there, no, randomly, of course they have... but well,

the russians do not see for themselves the need for any plans for peace negotiations and so on, they have in principle, as i understand, everything is going quite well for putin, they they are advancing, they plan at least in principle, as i understand it, they want to achieve and capture the entire donetsk-luhansk region, of course , after that they will talk about the need to capture kherson and zaporizhzhia, because they have written it into their constitution , it does not change the essence, no matter how many plans you produce, no matter how many concepts even, even if you do not offer such plans, concepts, something has to break in the spine of the russian regime so that they at least stick to something, and here it is really important for us to have at least some kind of stencil. i hope that the plan proposed by president zelenskyi will be the same

traparets normal in our interests, first of all. everything in order for something in the backbone of russia to break, something must change in the world community's vision of russia itself on the map of the world as a whole, as i have already repeatedly said, in order for something to change, something for russia to fundamentally change or disappear in that form , in which it is now, for this it is necessary to revise in principle the concept of the approach to what and how russia is seen... to be honest, i am not very happy in in some aspects, the article in zaeconomist, which is being discussed today, by the way, surprised me, and it seems to say that ukraine really needs to be supported, that the west really needs to change its approach, but again, some aspects in this article, so we now see her on the screens, they are so

russian-centric or russophilic, for example, there is a quote about the rise of nationalist views in ukraine, or for example, there is a quote that is again absolutely manipulative, where we are talking about russian speakers, that is, the problem lies in because the world still looks at russia as a whole. a valuable subject, ukraine is often looked at as such a subject, but to some extent an object, as a country that is still somewhere in the sphere of influence of russia, i really, really don't like that this position is still valid, and i don't like the fact that the world is still not ready

to completely cancel... russian, russian culture, russian in principle vision of our world, russian centers that are all over all countries world, they are, the problem here is still in to another, the problem is that we did not offer the ukrainian point of view to the world, by the way, i was directly talking about it, i mentioned the small article i wrote. holobutsky, a political scientist, he said that, i will quote, the essence remained russia-centric, because we did not manage to transfer the west to ukrainian-centricity, or does it want equidistant distancing from russia and the rest, because our elites for decades, instead of implementing the ukrainian order

daytime on cultural, information. economic, political levels, simply considered ukraine a feeding territory and acted accordingly. and here, in fact, when i was driving in front of our ether and read it, it is straight to the point, it is straight to the point, that on the one hand there is a world that has not canceled russian, and on the other hand there is ukraine, the state, the authorities, the authorities , i would say, different authorities. which were in ukraine, which also did not cancel the russian one in ukraine, and which also, we are talking about the present, did not advance an adequate, full-fledged, pro-ukrainian one.