the situation during zelenskyi's visit to the united states of america about the need for bipartisan support, can we say after this visit that ukrainians and the ukrainian authorities finally understand the need for this bipartisan support, and that we will not give preference to one of the candidates and the other the candidate will be offended, and like the current one, during the current election race in the united states of america. will and will the ukrainian card be played, the ukrainian question? the ukrainian question, it is in general one of the key issues in these pre-election races, and here we must not forget that on november 5 in the usa, not only presidential elections will be held, but also elections to the capitol, that is, to the american one, to the american parliament, and below. chamber and to the senate

partially, so in this case we have to understand that there is a comprehensive approach to ukraine, and in general the support and somehow the influence, influence and participation of the usa on the situation in the war between ukraine and russia, it is key, and precisely ago, when zelensky was going... to washington, i was on one of the marathon channels they asked me what i expected from the visit, i said that in this situation at a specific time period i expect caution, of course bipartisan support for ukrainian diplomacy, especially at a time when ukraine is dependent on military and financial aid from the united states states, it should be something on the level of religion, simple. and therefore every step must

be checked, understanding that the influence of the republican party is strong enough now, and it will still be quite strongly represented in the parliament, let's say, in the lower house of the congress of the united states, you just need to understand that it depends not only on who wins trump or harris, but also on what configuration ... will be there and take some steps that could, let's say, interfere with normal relations , and or create some kind of negative post scandalous residue for ukraine, it was simply unacceptable now, we passed now in this situation, when it was not possible to maintain the necessary balance for... that

the radical wing of the republican party clung to, we passed now simply by cutting edge thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. yulia, how successful do you think the visit of our delegation to the united states of america was, where the victory plan was presented, we will talk about it a little later, because yermak has already announced that this victory plan will finally be announced. in ukraine, do you understand what, in general, with what proposals the ukrainian delegation went, what we got as a result? well, we don't really know what proposals the ukrainian delegation came with, this information was hidden, i think, not only in ukrainian society, in principle it's further from the president's office, five or six managers didn't make it, so maybe it's good if it's about... a list of weapons,

for example, if it's about some kind of comprehensive victory plan that talks about funding and ukrainian territories , and about the occupied territories, and about nato, i would still like to hear it, so we don't really know what they were talking about in washington, just as we don't know what the result was and how the presidential candidates perceived this plan, in fact, any politicians and diplomats the main rule is not to visit countries 60 days before the elections in these countries, because either one power, or the second, or the third, will definitely use you against the other, this actually happened with the ukrainian delegation, well, if they put a bar in pennsylvania, and really the issue is not only in the radical wing of the republicans, the republicans in general took it very badly, and we can see. critical letters of johnson

and not only johnson, in fact, all republicans have big questions about it. visiting, so at this point, i would said, we have complicated our relations with the republican party, and this is not only about the radical wing and not only about trump, so we need to somehow find a common language and start cooperating with them, as my colleague volodymyr rightly said, he will one way or another, they will be in the congress and the senate and will vote or not vote for the aid of ukraine. it's such a big bar so far, i'd say. hall i want to give you an example, modi, who at the same time attended the general assembly, as well as ukrainian delegation, and he refused to meet with all the candidates, including the current president biden, that is, he

decided for himself his neutrality, and although he had an invitation, he said that he would not be able to meet this time, he would definitely come after the election. well, but, but modi could not... not meet with the candidates for the presidency of the united states of america, because he does not have such a harsh and aggressive war, they do not have such neighbors as russia nearby, which are launched on us every day dozens, hundreds drones and missiles, therefore, in principle , fashion can be understood, but in this situation, perhaps president zelensky did not have such a big choice, ms. elizaveta, well, perhaps it is... it is justified that zelensky wanted to meet with everyone, with the current president, with the vice president who is running for president and trump, who is also running for president, that is, this is a no-win, no-win option, when it was necessary to tell everyone about this

victory plan, which, well, i don't know, you probably too did not see the victory plan, forgive me i will ask you, you are a representative of the servant of the people, yes, but i will start by saying that i want to remind you that... this is the second presidential election in the united states, where they want to use ukraine as much as possible politically and technologically within their election races, and this is very unpleasant, it's very bad, but we have to reckon with it, and i think that, given that the americans are the greatest political technologists, they know how to conduct this or that company, how to conduct discredits, che... lations on one side, and all this time, well, basically, this for four or five years now, thank god, we have not had any serious scandals, we have always maintained a position of bipartisan support, communicated with democrats and

republicans, and that is why this time president zelensky planned a separate meeting with democrats and with republicans, probably it so happened that the republicans were waiting for such a meeting to take place from... and accordingly conducted a very, as i said, political-technological simply uh story, where they positioned as they positioned that this was allegedly an intervention in american elections, although this is not interference, this is diplomacy, the president has to meet with two candidates really, and you are right that we have a war. we are not india where we can choose, the united states is our biggest strategic partner and really, especially when we went with our peace plan, with all the details, i didn't see all the details, but we had a meeting where we

talked about certain moments, there is nothing super secret, is it really about military aid, is it about... ukraine's accession to nato, andriy yarmak announced this publicly today. and we had to talk it over with both biden and trump. i believe that volodymyr zelenskyi's meeting with trump, under the conditions in which it took place, actually went very well and successfully. you mentioned the year 2020, but do you remember, then it all almost ended with the impeachment of trump. because the conversation was between zelenskyi and trump, and trump demanded that zelenskyi influence the case of his son, joseph biden, the main competitor of trump, who was in the burizma case in ukraine and made the aid of the united states of america dependent on whether

zelensky would give in or not, then this phone conversation got into the american media, her bodyguards got angry and this started. this procedure, but it turns out that zelensky is already with trump for the second time, and for the second time this is a story when it is clear that they are... well, if they find a common language, then it is difficult enough, and especially on the part of trump, but less so, you mentioned the victory plan and yermak's statement that this victory plan will be presented to ukrainians without some closed details, let's listen to what the head of the office of the president of ukraine said, because it is very interesting, this is the president's plan, and of course, how he will... after the presentation of the presidents and the united states, partners, i think that he will

presented to ukrainians, but i can tell you, of course, there are parts, they are so very sensitive, they are closed, and not because there are secrets, this is our country, we all, you know, today, in a good way. this word, we are really a single family, in which there cannot be secrets, especially during the war, but still, you know, everything that happened becomes public, and it is heard not only in our country, the enemy also hears it, mr. volodymyr, to present and present to ukrainians without some hidden details, this victory plan, it is obviously the right decision, but why... for example, in the closed mode of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, in a closed session, it would not be possible

to present this entire plan and show that the highest legislative power in ukraine also participates in the preparation of this plan , or at least this supreme legislative authority hears it, and she has the right to vote in the current state? unfortunately, today the parliament of ukraine is not a subject and... mainly it performs the function of approving those bills that are submitted or agreed upon in the president's office, so in this case, if it were in a democratic country, it is clear that it should have been would present it to people's deputies, especially because people's deputies have access to state secrets and documents of all forms of secrecy, but we see. in fact, that there are people's deputies in the president's oat they hold for nothing, well, in general, i believe that

all these plans, all these points, they are a secret of polisheneli, i can recall the statement of zelensky himself, who, after the counteroffensive promised in the 23rd year, failed, he stated that the plan of a counteroffensive was on the table of the enemy of ukraine. the president has the dictator of russia vladimir putin, so in this case, if where two know, as they say, a pig knows, and therefore, in this case, i see no need to hide anything from the ukrainians, i am more embarrassed by others that in fact they are statements should not be made by the head of the president's office, but always by such... statements on behalf of the commander-in-chief should be made by the press secretary, because in this case article

106 of the constitution of ukraine clearly states that the president cannot delegate his duties to anyone, in this case, he transfers, transfers his duties to the head of the office yermak, and this position as the head of the president's office is not in the constitution, nor in the laws of ukraine, it is only in the presidential decree and in fact... a person who has access to document to which must have only the supreme commander-in-chief and a limited number of relevant ranks of the ministry of defense, the general staff, the intelligence service of the security service have access to a person who actually has no state status, this is what worries me the most in this case, and when we talk about what we do not need to know about these plans as for the enemies, i want to remind you of 2020, when after being in

zelenskyi’s office in the presence of yermak, as well as zelenskyi’s secretary, a report was presented on the final part of the special operation against the wagnerites, then this special operation was thwarted precisely because of the leak of this information from the office of the president of ukraine, therefore, in this case, there is no need to make polisheneli secrets and hold ukraine. or not to show everything, because someone can hand over these plans to the enemy, well, if the entire faction of the opzh is still sitting in the verkhovna rada, maybe i was rash when i said that a special session of the parliament should be held and these plans should be shown, because it is clear that there is a whole lot the pro-russian front remains in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but

the war is general, popular, that is it is not a war only from... the zelensk fair against russia, that is, from the first days of the great war, this is a people's war, where both the small, the old, and the average ukrainian take up arms and fight against the russians, and how many there is no information, we read it from various foreign mass media, and it is not clear where is the truth, where is the lie, where is the right plan, where is the wrong plan, then it arises. there are a lot of questions, and maybe there is some kind of stingy plan, or no, no, not quite the kind that will suit everyone in victory, in our victory ukrainians, well, let's say that the president, the head of the president's office, and people's deputies are sitting in their seats

only because ukrainians, including civilians, took up arms and defended, at least, kyiv. therefore, it is necessary to understand that the ukrainians should be the first to learn about the plans, especially peaceful plans, plans for victory, because they are the only ones who will decide which plans are acceptable for us, for which peace is acceptable for us, acceptable, and how we have to move, that's why it's such a humiliating procedure when someone has something abroad present, the media abroad all have... information, they meet with journalists abroad, give them information about the victory plan, while ukraine and ukrainians, ukrainian journalists, de facto do not have access to any information, i already i'm not talking about the deputies, so it's such a situation, i think that if this plan was, let's say, realistic, something new, and

there were no secret parts in it, i guess it would have been presented, no... as far as i'm concerned i understand from the international media what i have read, there is nothing new in this regard, it is still the same namely, the list of weapons, permission to strike in the middle of russia, joining nato, sanctions and the return of our 300 billion, which are so stuck in europe and cannot get out of there, i am talking about frozen russian assets, so this is exactly what we discussed 2.5 years, i think that if there are secret parts, they are definitely, let's say, not pleasant. thank you, ms. yulia, ms. elizaveta, is it possible to put an equal sign between the plan for the victory of ukraine and the plan for the defeat of russia? because this is the most important

question, because we, we understand what is for us victory is russia's defeat. is that clear? to our western partners, i think that for us victory is not only the defeat of russia, it is a just peace, where we want russia not only to withdraw its troops, but also to return all our prisoners, and also to really start paying reparations, we also we want democratic processes to take place in russia internally, and we are fighting, because this is our civilizational dimension, a choice, and i... i am convinced that this is not only a defeat with one part of russia, i think that not everyone in the west understands it is necessary constantly to explain, i am right now in paris, where today, for example, we talked about one of the future resolutions on which he is working on the return of prisoners of war,

just me and at all the discussions we... talked about what the president's peace formula is, what will be the peace , peace, what is the plan, what are we ready for, and very often foreigners say that it is possible that we are ready to surrender some territories, but we say no, we are not ready to surrender territories, and i am convinced that there are no points in our plan of volodymyr zelenskyi those secret ones where we surrender something the only idea and purpose is to keep the points secret so that it really doesn't break. we know that the success of the kursk operation and our other military operations is precisely that... a very limited number of people knew about it, and yes, we may not like it, because we ukrainians always want to know all the information, but if we are talking about

professionalism and the result, then it is not necessary for everyone to know about everything, we will learn about everything already from the result, and god grant that we will be successful in carrying out what we want on defense of ukraine. thank you, ms. elizaveta, well , let's hope that after the presentation of this. well, the victory of the promised fair, we will have fewer questions than now, because now there is only one big question, a question mark, and it is not clear, there are no answers, just as there are no answers yet as to whether they will be introduced from october 1, 24 new taxes that have not yet been approved by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, well, yaroslav zheliznyak said that these tax changes will be approved in october, and from the first of october post, well, that is, post facto will already be introduced, ms. yulia, what do you say about this, because the topic of taxes has taken

a back seat, and it is not clear whether we will pay more to the budget, we will not pay, when we will, whether from october 1 or january 1, or whether it is correct to introduce these taxes retroactively, well, actually, the draft law is not yet ... er, it has been passed, it will be, if it is passed, only in a week, two, three, if it receives enough votes and is voted on , then these taxes will be introduced, but i want to remind that taxes are not introduced retroactively, from october 1, for sure , no one will pay these taxes, because it simply contradicts the current legislation, so let's see in what form and with what amendments there are a lot of amendments that will be made in... what will be voted on and after that we can say what taxes will be implemented, if you remember, we were talking about 5% of the military levy, including

for fops, an increase to 5%, and there is also a certain list of these taxes, let's see in reality , what will come of it, yes there are taxes on health insurance for financial institutions at 20, 25% for banks, yes. on the banks, mr. volodymyr, was there any way out of power other than raising taxes, is there any, are there resources that can be attracted to the budget, but they are now in the extrabudgetary sphere, well, for example, in customs, and not only at customs, of course, this is one of the most problematic points in ukraine, and it really could be a golden bottom, if it... no, let's say this, did not sprinkle into the pockets of customs officers and those who stand above customs officers , their roofs, it was always, and on it's a great pity, even a war, a full-scale

war, could not change this situation at the customs, and until now we only see attempts to be careful, to change something like that, although there are no fundamental changes yet, but ... nothing that has not been affected business is close to the presidential one, for example, ihorka, yes, especially online, online gambling, according to various estimates, from 150 to 200 billion uah annual turnover in online casinos, and so far the cabinet of ministers has not installed a system of online monitoring, the circulation of these online casino, and therefore now there are only approximate estimates, since investments there are minimal, profits there are maximum, these are excess profits, then it is clear that for the period of martial law, it would be possible to introduce sufficiently

serious taxes, fees from the circulation of online casinos, they would not suffer much, and simply then it could be blocked at once all the issues that today are trying to... hang on fops, on small businesses, on citizens of ukraine, on ordinary people, because it is they who will pay for all this from their pockets, and it would be possible to bring order to the market of circulation of tyutsiun and eliminate its illegal part, although there there are also certain interests of people close to the government and the president's office, so you can talk there for a long time, and european solidarity offered. more than once now during the discussion of this bill regarding taxation of real sources of income, but

for this it is necessary that some. interested persons, including those close to the current government, have significantly moved forward, but they cannot move forward, so ukrainians, ordinary ukrainians, and small and medium-sized businesses will pay for everything. thank you, ms. elizaveta, literally 30 seconds are on the air, can you tell if are you looking for other sources of revenue for the budget, besides taxes, increases, that is, unequivocally, this is our foreign aid, financial, and the european union, and our other partners. they help us a lot, thank you, mrs. elizaveta, elizaveta yasko, yulia klymenko and volodymyr rariev were guests of our program today, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, i would like to remind you that during the entire broadcast we are conducting a survey, friends, and we are finishing it already survey, we ask you about whether you expect the united states of america long-distance permit at the next ramshten, which will take place on october 12, so 50% expect, 50% no, fiftti. that's it, friends,

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