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he gave more than 30 years of his life to the armed forces of ukraine. in 2014, serhiy ivanovych headed sector b, and this, friends, for a second, including the battles for the donetsk airport. later, from 2015 to 2017, serhii ivanovych headed the eastern operational command. from 2018, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, and from 2020 to 2024, commander of the united forces of ukraine. in october 22, serhiy ivanovich was named one of the most influential military forces of modern ukraine. despite such a brilliant career, serhii ivanovych, you were fired for some reason. and i remember that on february 11 of this year
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, you wrote that you learned about your dismissal from the mass media, how did it happen? well, it turned out that my position, it is subject to replacement by officials of the highest officer rank and belongs to the appointment of the president of ukraine. i was there during one of the tasks. and i was sent a message by messenger that the decree for my dismissal had passed, before that, directly with me, my management did not hold such conversations, i later clearly proved to the management that i prefer to continue military service as long as the war between the russian federation and ukraine continues, every military specialist should... give
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denin to the defense forces, i remember in january 24 of the year, you invited the media to show training and preparation for possible invasions from the north, it was in volyn, then it was in zhytomyr region, i went to this filming, and i remember, i don't know if it happened, but it was also planned in sumy region . it seemed to me then it's strange that there is such activity in the media, and now that we know that you were fired shortly after that, i got the impression that you, if you did not know, at least suspected that you might have been fired, and therefore decided to report to the public about it , what is happening on the border now, is it true,
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the fact is that after completing the tasks in the east of our country in june 22, i took over the responsibility for the north of ukraine, and accordingly, the work on preparing for defense began. when i accepted the northern operational zone, there were not so many anti-tank mines laid, there was something to work on regarding... security lines, and it was also necessary to control the state of training of the troops, and my attention as the commander of the operational-strategic group was focused on these tasks troops of the north, that is, it was work that was directed in order to increase our capabilities, our direct defense capabilities, in terms of media coverage, that was it. stipulated that every ukrainian,
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who lives on the territory of volyn, rivne, zhytomyr, kyiv, chernihiv, and sumy regions, as well as the bogadukhiv district of kharkiv region. he understood that there are defense forces here, that the defense forces strengthen the defense of the border, positions, mine the terrain, and also carry out the training of troops so that every ukrainian is sure that he is reliably protected, i believe that strategic communications, which are components of the comprehensive support of any military operation, they should also be. to develop, a they include strategic communications , including work with the media, therefore, in military affairs, all aspects must be given their due. mr. sergey, why do you think you were fired? well, there are grounds on which
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decisions were made, and the decisions were not made by me. why were they fired and, or why were they given? the possibility of being in the army in the future at the disposal of the minister of defense of ukraine, this is all the decision of the military leadership, i am a soldier of my army, i, when the enemy’s aggression against ukraine continues, my place in the armed forces forces of ukraine, and this may be somehow connected with the resignation of zaluzhnyi, well, there were rumors that there would be a replacement. teams in general in military affairs, well, there is no such understanding as a team, a team of a dedicated person or a team of another military leader, there is a provision on military service, all military personnel must serve in accordance with these norms and rules, which
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have been written down for a long time, if a different decision is made, i as a soldier, i have no right to discuss it, i have to fulfill it, but my desire is to serve. to the ukrainian people, summing up this moment, no one came up to you and said that serhii ivanovich, we want to dismiss you from the position you hold, such issues were not discussed with me, of course, what is your current status in the armed forces of ukraine? i am a servicewoman of the armed forces of ukraine, an active general, i am at the disposal of the minister of defense of ukraine and i perform. tasks assigned to me by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. that is, we can talk with you now calmly about the situation at the front. well, don't worry, we can talk on any topic, but there are sometimes moments that
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are due to the appropriate mystery. therefore , looking at questions, but i am always open to communication with the media. the operation in the kursk region has been going on for more than a month, we are advancing on the enemy's territory, but retreating on our own. i would like to understand to what extent it is justified, what is the reason, what is the purpose of this operation, would it not be more expedient to involve the forces that are currently being used in kursk region in the east of ukraine? well, any military operation, and this one in particular, comes from a political goal, which is determined by this political cop was voiced by adviser mykhailo padeluk, later the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, he
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outlined the strategic tasks performed by the course operation, directly, whether it was appropriate to use these forces in... the east of our country, that was decided by those military leaders, and, who made a strategic decision in order to achieve a political goal. expedient or inexpedient, let's say, the best decision that will lead us to total victory, such decisions are limited by resource provision, resource provision, first of all, is the latest technological weapons. military equipment and appropriately prepared and trained personnel, which is necessary for the ukrainian army, so if such a resource is sufficient, then we will win in all directions, but now the relevant military
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leaders have made such a decision, it was announced that this military operation should divert forces the enemy is from the east, for now . such a significant transfer of enemy forces from the east did not occur, a little more than 40 thousand enemy personnel were transferred there, but... we will see how this operation ends, we will believe in the armed forces of ukraine and the wisdom of military leaders. one of the main problems in ukraine today is mobilization, how do you assess how it is going now, how it was in the 23rd year? well, now there have been corresponding changes in the legislation. according to the will of ukraine, changes and relevant laws were adopted, in
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accordance with which the mobilization is now underway, so this is what makes the mobilization in the 23rd and 24th years different. by my profession and training, i am a commander who was responsible for the use of the armed forces of ukraine. therefore, the question of mobilization, equipment, and complexity of personnel is armed. the techniques were beyond my competence, but as a specialist in the military field, i can answer that the differences are due to changes in legislation. and what would you like to change in mobilization? we need to make sure that every ukrainian follows the call to join the defense forces, so that the motivation of everyone who joins... the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine and other components of the security and defense forces is
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such as at the beginning of the invasion, when at the call of the heart, queues were searched at each rtcc, but this is a complex work, on which not only military leaders should work. there is a separate problem with the training of the mobilized. sometimes there is information that people. they don't prepare enough for battles, do you see such a problem, and if so, how to solve it? and when the large-scale invasion of the enemy began, the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine and other components of the defense and security forces were primarily trained personnel, they were reservists of the first, second line, in the future they also went. boys who had experience of service and they were trained before that,
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training in training centers, depending on the level of training they had before mobilization, it had a different duration, but most of those who were called up for military service on mobilization were more qualitative in terms of training, the war continues. now those guys who have been performing tasks since 2022 have suffered losses, other mobilized servicemen are coming to replace them, so indeed, these are not always the soldiers who had appropriate training and were mobilized at the beginning of the war, now the decision has been made. to the commanders-in-chief of the labor forces of ukraine, regarding the increase in the training period of these
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servicemen, in general, in training centers, this is every type of the armed forces of ukraine, as i said earlier, they have their own training centers subordinate to them, in which they train personnel for the ground forces, for units air forces, for the naval forces, forces of the that is, each commander organizes the appropriate training, and the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine carries out the general management of these processes, therefore, the criticism that is heard, it reaches the relevant commanders, the relevant commanders and they are constantly working on it, so there are indeed problems, because the mobilization is ongoing, different people with different levels. with different perceptions, psychological readiness to conduct
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hostilities, and all these problems are the daily concern and duty of everyone who works in training centers, this work continues every day, it is better to definitely work on this, and do they work on that and do they hear criticism of the problem rotation and the fact that the people who are going to serve, they... still do not have an explanation in any legislative document, how long they should serve? and of course this is a problem because it is always necessary. to tell the truth, the truth to the personnel who are mobilized, directly in the military units, when these military units are used, this is already a cyrina that was previously under my command under those commanders who are conscious, who understand the personnel, who
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strive to preserve the personnel , they organized rotations directly during performance of tasks. there were relevant units that performed tasks at the front for a certain time, then they were dismissed for rest and for further training in body units, and this is the way such work was carried out, i would like to note a very good such organization of work at the time when i was performing tasks in the east, this is in the 57th separate motorized infantry brigade, the same... they were also carried out in the 24th separate mechanized brigade, in other brigades, that is, the commanders worked on it, everything that is higher than the level of application is already another the responsibility of other officials, in order to ensure that there is a rotation for the entire personnel, it is necessary to have
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a significantly larger number of relevant military units and units. it is partially done, but for a purely larger number of personnel in order to do it, not as part of a rotation within a military unit, but as part of a rotation of military units, this requires a larger number of military units themselves, and this again depends on mobilization , therefore military leaders, teams of battalions, brigades, they perform it during performance of combat tasks, but the military leadership from the presence of those brigades and battalions that perform tasks not in hot areas, they also take measures regarding rotation, not everything is good, there are problems, but believe me , they are working on it, they are trying to make it good, but the situation is the way it is, what is needed to
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help solve, well, to help you... sew this situation, it is necessary to create such a set of military units so that some fight and others recover, as we had, for example , when there was an operation of the united forces, we had 10 brigades in the area of the operation of the united forces, and the other 10 brigades performed the tasks of rest, rehabilitation and further training at the points of permanent deployment, two sets of troops, each company... was for six months, completed the task for six months, completed the task for six months was in a point of permanent deployment, and of them your vacation, a month or so 45 days or sick leave, that is, the entire social package is fulfilled, two sets of troops are needed, of course, mr. serhiy, i really want to ask you about the events of last year, about
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counteroffensive in the south, in june 22. in 2008, i , as part of the espresso film crew, got to the advanced positions in the goliaipil direction, we were 300 m from the russians' position, and i well remembered the words of the soldiers who were with us at the time, that the russians dug in very hard and mined everything, it was the summer of the 22nd year, and a year passes, there is a counteroffensive in this... direction, it goes along the mines, the counteroffensive goes through all these trenches , powerful russian and without aviation cover. i want to, i know it's not your responsibility, weren't you leading the way then, but maybe you can explain why exactly
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this operation was planned and how you would evaluate its effectiveness, eh? the effectiveness of this work can be assessed not only by me, but also by you and every average ukrainian, which is the result. as for why this is so, we should all understand that an offensive is usually very easily carried out when the enemy is weak, this is what happened to us in the kharkiv direction in september of the 22nd year, when the enemy constantly... advancing in the donetsk direction, he in the north of the kharkiv region, he lowered his reserves and exhausted these reserves, they are not there there was a time when our guys on... bandera cars with very fast equipment showed insane speeds of advance, 60-40 km there per day, this was due to the fact that
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the enemy was weak, and directly there the enemy was strong, he strengthened his defensive line, he kept the appropriate reserves there and so on, in general, in order to advance again... either the enemy is weak, or it is necessary to make him weak, this is done at the expense of fire damage, when his enemy force, armored vehicles, his artillery systems are destroyed , and the enemy gradually reduces its combat potential, it becomes less, and then the advantage in manpower and means of fire impression in this direction helps. this is a classic, of course, it is better to make it so that we pass in the other direction where the enemy is weak, but the force
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is always strengthened where we need to advance, where we need to succeed, it leaves weak places where the secondary direction is, and it is easy for our troops to advance there, why did this happen, there were not enough forces and means that were transferred to us, our partners, in order to fully to reduce the combat potential of the enemy force, which was paying off there, it was necessary to have more means of fire damage, missiles, shells, air defense systems to close the sky, aviation, in order to create... appropriate conditions, so that it would be much easier to attack there than so as it happened didn't
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it make sense to wait for the f-16? well, in military affairs there is such an understanding as objective reality, and it is necessary to take these actions on time. and it was possible to wait another year, the enemy would have strengthened or increased his efforts there, because we know that the enemy, he is not conducts mobilization, but he motivates his citizens with money so that they join the ranks of the armed forces, refi, and then the enemy would simply be more numerous, more those... defensive lines and all that more, so those who accepted these decisions, they took into account time, objective reality, took into account their capabilities and
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planned in such a way as to do it on time, as it turned out, this is another assessment, say, the commander who failed the operation and lost a lot. if the claims that are put forward to him objectively depended, or were, or were dependent on the decisions he made, then yes, of course, and yes, if there is a commander and he has taken all measures, but the enemy... has concentrated such a number of troops and forces there that with the available, available number of personnel of military equipment , he cannot perform a combat
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task, then why should he be prosecuted for it, if it is a loss, if the losses depended and were dependent on the decisions made, so necessarily, it works today in our army? yes, of course it works. we have law enforcement agencies, which of our state, they constantly carry out investigative actions regarding certain actions, including military leaders. serhiy ivanovich, i am interested in your opinion, should ukrainians expect another counteroffensive by our forces in the near future? yes, yes, well, of course, the military leadership understands that a war cannot be won by defense alone, so the appropriate forces, namely reserves, are always being prepared, any
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military leader... always prepares reserves, additional forces and means that will be used in the future. i emphasize once again, in order to advance, it is necessary to stop the enemy, to force him to exhaust his reserves, as was done during such a victorious and very emotional operation in kharkiv, when everyone was in a high mood. he simply exhausted his reserves, he removed all forces and means from the right flank, and there remained separate units of the so -called ldnr and units of the national guard, there were also separate units of the armed forces of the russian federation, but they were few in number, and the third was to create an advantage, so first than advancing we must stop the enemy, we must force him to deplete his reserves in one
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direction or another and create... superiority in forces and means, recently the dictator of the russian federation putin announced an increase in the size of the army, it seems by 150,000, does not this mean that he is depleting his reserves? the russian federation has a considerable mobilization resource, in general, according to calculations, so that we understand, the armed forces of the russian federation can continue the introduction for years. aggression against ukraine, but all the same, the russian federation faces problems, including the problem of recruiting for military service under the contract those citizens who go to the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation, they provide the leadership of the russian federation and regionally, and the state
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as a whole is significant. financial motivations for these occupiers to join the ranks of their army, but all the same on a voluntary basis, under different sauces, what they do there is all the same, it is unlimited, when, someday , the time will come when they will be forced to apply the next mobilization, therefore... the increase of the armed forces of the russian federation for us, does not bring anything good for ukraine, and we will see how they will cope with this task, we must always strive that nothing succeeds in the armed forces of the russian federation, that we are successful, and they always lose, so i wish that they failed. how do you assess the situation at
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the front now? well, the situation directly in the eastern direction, it is such that the armed forces of the russian federation, they are constantly advancing in all directions, and in these directions, where they see that they can be successful, they are developing their success, directly, they are now conducting offensive actions in the kupinsky direction, they are approaching the water obstacle with such pincers. to close the ring of encirclement, and accordingly the situation in the area of the coal mine,
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i emphasize once again in... the enemy, constantly attacking, in this way, as if conducting reconnaissance by combat, finds out where it is possible to be successful, where it can be their offensive advance, and he carries out such actions with such tactics, and the focal point is used everywhere and small tank columns and infantry, all this is happening, the enemy now has a threat in the chickens. whose direction, on the ugledar direction, his actions on the kupinsky direction are threatening. in order to stop the enemy, it is necessary, i emphasize once again, to beat the enemy, reducing his offensive potential. all samples of military equipment weapons that are in service with our brigades that perform tasks in the east.
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