once again, the anniversary of the seizure of ukrainian territories, well, what can i say, well, on the one hand, they tried to make a holiday out of it, there were some concerts, as usual, shamans with shouts, i am russian and all that, but it is interesting that with all that the propagandists somehow worry that it has not become such a holiday, and for some reason the masses of the people do not celebrate in the same way. and this is a pity for them, well, and an attempt to make it a real holiday, and not what it really is, well, grief for everyone, this in itself is also, how to say, very characteristic. the president of the russian federation talked about this day today, but there will probably be something around us that we

will have to tell, probably not to you and me, volodymyr rudolfovych, but to children, for example, at an understandable, accessible level. so today i go to the search engine on the internet, a big server that we all call our russian native. for example, in yandex. when i go to yandex on the eve of halloween, there is always symbolism there, everything is colored. it seems to me that anything that is not ours is celebrated there holiday in this way, from valentine's day to oktoberfest, so today i came in and came in several times a day and in a day, and i found nothing, there is nothing, no photos, no links to those events, i think something needs to be changed, so interesting. what

did she want to change there and what should have been there, photos of what, broken cities, or what symbolism , there are many graves, that's what exactly, because what else accompanied these attempts to seize ukrainian territories, what should be the symbolism, there is a house broken cultural center in mariupol, right? with the inscription children, or maybe the graves in mariupol, how they throw people there, that's all, well, because even in the memories of russian propagandists who came to the donetsk region in order to involve this russian peace, you know, somehow it is not traceable that it was some kind of you know, a festive action, or something so joyful, that's interesting. tells the story of such a military officer

who, well, a russian, came to literally plant russian peace in the donbass, and here are his memories about it, i, i wouldn’t call it joyful, it’s very, very, you know, in such people , he finds it very interesting words for of this, which show that this is admiration, this is aggression, and it is not joyful for the residents of donetsk. i once again returned from donbas to moscow for money, flew into the office when one of my bosses was so full of miles. he tells me: breathe through your nostrils, this is all for a very long time, i came up with it later. with my sharp reporter's

eye, it was not hidden from me why it disappeared from the local residents, and i saw that in russia it was a project to return donbass, minsk went their own way, it was not implemented. at the same time, russia continued, like an experienced boa constrictor, throw a ring after a ring on donbas. but people were in despair, they suddenly found themselves from a very prosperous land, suddenly in a few months they were suddenly transferred to some backyards of civilization, somewhere in the 15th-17th years, complete despair began among people, there is no money, yes, how beautiful, russia like a boa constrictor, literally...

donbas was suffocating and suffocating, but for some reason the local residents were not happy, because they came from a prosperous region to the backyard of civilization, why? they weren't happy, it's a mystery why they weren't so happy about this, they should have been happy that they were now on in the backyard of civilization, this is such a big holiday for zakharov and this one who went to moscow for money, very interesting, and the same story, how in the end russia decided to launch a large-scale attack, that's all they told there, how ukraine was preparing to attack , here is the same military course of teshin. refutes this literally in two words when he says: well, we thought that we would attack and we would do everything in a couple of days, but it turned out that we were poorly prepared for this matter, well, it’s just that, you know, his frankness in some places even

impressive, well, but it is clear that a person does not control himself very much when he starts to tell what he thinks about, all his eyes, i mean, the insults about russia that he gave, well, that is... this is something that comes from such in-depth understanding of this process, and really the way it looks, in fact, when the beautiful, blooming and at the time of the start of the war, well, i must say, prosperous territory of the donetsk region, which was simply turned into nothing, as a result of the russians, is simply suffocating, where now you can't live normally where there is a constant war now, everything is collapsing, and to the point that... in fact, the population that lives there is being killed there, being killed in attempts to take over ukraine. i can say one thing about the 22nd year: dozens of times i heard from the guys at the front during these years of misfortune,

they called me losses, although the losses were classified. and they said that it would be better if a thousand people died at once, but that... it all ended sooner. for some reason, we believed in our victory. they did not think that the enemy had prepared. we prepared somewhat worse. in the words of the first head of the republic of oleksandr zakharchenko he told me yes. our way to russia turned out to be very long and bloody, but we will make it to the end. and at least our children will live in russia. here we are in russia. "i am now in donetsk, but we have not completed this journey. well, they are now in russia, and you know, it is not that they have not completed their journey, these children have grown up in these 10 years, and as a result, now they are in russia is killing in an attempt

to capture even more territory of ukraine, and the impression is that russia will fight there with all the people it can reach on the territory to reach the occupied, they will throw them." fight and kill simply in bundles, and now this dream of his, about which he says, if only a thousand died, yes, now thousands are dying a day, and, judging by everything, more will die, because as it goes on and on, it seems that more and more people are dying there, more of those people who are in the occupied territories, those they take into the army, those with whom they try to storm ukraine further, and this is not only depopulation . those territories, they are not simply depopulated, they are not simply destroyed there, they are not they simply destroy men, in fact, they fight to the last man in the occupied territories, there they destroy them economically and continue, but again, other propagandists' beautiful

thoughts about what prices are in donbas after 10 years, how russia finally pretended to be so... . drank and crushed donbas. residents who come from new territories, they ask what about the prices? that is, in fact, one of the biggest problems not solved in the new territories. everything is cool, a lot of military personnel with high earnings, a lot of opportunities for development, but at the same time this is a disappointment. the fact that many military and representatives of the security forces earn 200 plus, they collapse the prices. they do not collapse, on the contrary. they make it so that they rise, real estate rent there is a nightmare, products, that is, in donetsk, you go to a local store in avosk, or the first republican one, and you have the feeling that you are in moscow in the alphabet of taste, you know, in an elite deli, the prices are higher than in moscow , and it is not clear why, people also

complained, it is clear that there was an increase in utility prices throughout russia, and in in donetsk, and in other regions, it happens that water is supplied from time to time, but glory. thank god that now in donetsk there is water every day, and not once every three days for 3 hours, but still it is served from the 15th or from 16:00 until the evening, there until 10 in the evening. you still have to pay the increased utility bill, well, as an increased rate for the region, conditionally, since july 1, they have increased everywhere and there too, well, that is, the prices are higher than, the rent is also higher than in the surrounding area, and there is no water, uh, well, it is there it is served according to the schedule, and you also have to pay more for it than in other regions russia, well, it’s all such a wonderful life, and besides, what are the prospects, and the prospects for these... captured territories, why are they needed at all, solovyov described, so

it’s not bad, as they are going to settle with some russians who are somewhere it is not known where they live, because they work in the military industry and manufacture weapons for an attack on ukraine. we will not sell shells, shells, they must be made, tanks must be made, armored personnel carriers must be made, and selling them at this time... salaries, it is real, we have increased the salaries of the population, working people, it is real today on 10%, and what to offer them to buy, they should not buy shells, that’s right, armored personnel carriers, some will burn, some will remain, something must be offered, including to adsorb this money mass, but there is nothing to offer for the same reason that it is necessary to borrow expensively and there is no money, as there is nothing to offer, it is necessary to work it out. there is no need to produce, here, i don’t want to offend anyone, but territories have been added

that are the size of four crimeans, where there is land and many other things, and why not offer people land, well, that is, steal from those people who are there, of course, kill them, as the russians like to do, and offer them to the orcs, that's how they imagine everything for which they capture, well, to rob, said another mardan propagandist. once upon a time, war is for the purpose of looting and taking everything from the occupied territories, probably putin thinks so, and in principle, not only putin thinks so, and they all think so, and this is exactly the plan for the occupied territories , destroy the population, rob this population, well, rob the resources, well, when you say, donbas will to give profit, malicious people appear who say that they came here to suck. all the juices, this is a sore topic among our population, when you talk about profit, benefit, resources and

so on, it starts, and that will cause a lawsuit of the heart, the same when they say donbas is subsidized, how is donbas subsidized, we here, we have coal and so on, so here, as they say, you can’t please everyone, of course, it must bring profit, now billions of rubles are invested in it in order to make a profit, we live, unfortunately, in capitalism, but how did you want well they certainly do not live in capitalism, in feudalism, and of course all these extracted resources go to an absolutely narrow circle of people, to those who actually sit around putin and to putin himself, who simply robs everything, that is why they are waging wars, and that is why they are trying to seize more, you know everything else, conversations for the poor, so what if you ask, what did zakharova want to celebrate there? nightingale, and what kind of symbols are needed, yes, it must be so,

yes, everything was stolen there by a wagon, i don’t know, not only probably washing machines, in general everything, people killed, a pile of coffins, destroyed, destroyed cities, these will probably be symbols that fit their, you know, attempts to celebrate the territories captured in ukraine, which they themselves recognize before they started them, as pretend press and and and put on your rings, before that these territories were prosperous, and then for some reason they suddenly became non-prosperous, which is understandable, can something be done about it, somehow agree on something, well, you know, no, and not because it is possible there , i would not like to stop the war here in ukraine for someone, or someone... here in ukraine should have stopped it, no, the russians do not want

to stop it, and in principle, when they talk about how incompatible the wishes of ukrainians and russians are on this matter, well, it really looks like a picture that, well, is hardly possible to combine these visions of the world. we have three theoretical conflict resolution plans. the first plan, which is zelensky's plan, is the borders of 1991, the defeat of russia so that it could never launch a special military operation. on the other hand, there is a russian plan announced by the russian president. this plan, we will frank, not very generous about. of ukraine and it looks like an ultimatum: give up the lands that joined russia, disarm, join nato, do not join. and there is a third plan, which seems to be trying to find points of contact, because for the ukrainian plan to work, the armed forces must stand near moscow, for the russian plan to work, russian troops must stand on the banks, and volodymyr zelenskyy must drink tea in moscow in

the matroska tish area, until this happens, and this middle plan comes to the fore. actually the middle plan - these are the borders of 1991, this is the middle plan, yes, but, you see, the russians don’t even think to talk about it and don’t want to, they only have ultimatums, and on the other hand, you know, they can’t talk about it to speak, because in their imagination there is some kind of humanism or something, this is something unacceptable, which simply causes the hysteria of russian propagandists. and anyone even talking about the fact that it is necessary to be humane there and to behave humanely there, they believe that this is something unacceptable and wrong from the west, what is thrown at them, for 80 years, western people were hammered into their heads, 80s, not two or three

years, they put into their heads that the most important thing is empathy, compassion. oleksandr mykolayovych, something has happened to you in recent days, you are right today, i was given the opportunity to finally strike. that is, you want to say that the ukrainians were at the right time, in the right place, and now those correspondents i have left in germany, in belgium, they are moaning about it. it is quite obvious that the poles are also suffering from this now, because they cannot be tolerated impossible, one ukrainian is one ukrainian. oleksandr mykolayovych, breathe,

breathe, breathe, please. the last line. you had bedbugs at home, never, when i was little, we had them in the communal house, and i belonged to that generation when all of moscow was infested with bedbugs, that’s the kind of thing, well , you see, empathy and compassion are unacceptable things for them, and then they wonder why no one anywhere wants to talk to their propagandists, why they don't want negotiations with russia? the president of poland refused: you support zelensky's plan, something vaguely beckoned the secretary general of nato. do you support zelensky's plan? the german delegation led by the federal minister of foreign affairs anna lena berbock establish

the laws of the jungle? do you need direct negotiations with the participation of russia? don't touch me, i'm an oniv correspondent, don't touch me. in the meantime, the german foreign minister is being given a shot. if you want to start a press conference, go there. this is how the representatives of annalen berba behave, they do not allow ooniv correspondents to work. we are officially registered with un press. we have accreditation, but they push me away and simply don't let me work. this complete feeling of impunity, from what? from the fact that they saw that a russian journalist was in front of them. i thought about their behavior, they were ukrainianized for so long, they adopted the habits of their subordinates for so long that they simply dissolved into them. yes, it is difficult to live humanly, you see,

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congratulations, thank you for being with espresso, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and today i have the honor of doing an interview with a very extraordinary. guest, after all we are doing this interview in a place where i am also a guest, this is not our studio, and we are very grateful to read it bookstore for the fact that we

have the opportunity to record in this beautiful city, really, i hope an interesting interview' yu, actually, today we will talk about the war through the eyes of a serviceman, we will talk about how he sees trends in ukrainian society and how does the military react to what is happening outside our borders? country, i will probably start by reminding you that the rubizh rapid response brigade, you know well the servicemen of this brigade, some of them are good friends of our broadcasters, these are people who took part in battles in the kyiv region, this is gostomel, then it's rubizhne, severodonetsk, battles for bakhmut, and now the rubizh brigade is working in kharkiv oblast, why is it important? to mention this brigade, because today we are talking with major of the rubizh national guard brigade, hero of ukraine vitaly lytvyn we welcome you. greetings, ms.

khrystyna, and dear viewers. and listeners listen to us and watch us. i would probably like to start with the general situation through your eyes, the front, the frontier now in kharkiv oblast. after all, we are talking about two years of a great war, everything changes, just recently i had a conversation with a serviceman who said: well, if we went to bakhmut to work there, relatively speaking, and the enemy was at a distance of 200-300 m from us , and we could still carry out even the evacuation of civilians if necessary it was, now pukrovsk says 7 km from the front, but i ran away. from fpv drone, completely different specifics, probably. how does the war look now through your eyes? well, i want to say that

our brigade, the guards brigade of the onslaught of rubizh, is currently being used in combat operations not only in the kharkiv region, but also in this lyman area. and that is , our units are now used in several directions, and recently, when i went to the area of ​​service combat missions to the units, i worked, you can... so to speak, i bypassed the line from kharkiv to pokrovsk, talked with servicemen of various units, and you are right in saying that the methods of conducting modern warfare are changing now, maybe every week, every month, even maybe every day, because now the priority is the means of conducting intelligence, technical means uavs, radar stations, which are being developed both in the russian federation and in our country, and... countermeasures against these means are also being developed, that is, we understand that at the beginning of the actions in the kharkiv region, it is in the direction of lybtsi-vovchansk, the enemy used a large number of

operational-tactical. such as orland 10, zala and superkams, now we can already see that and how our brigade, the guards offensive brigade brigade , began to shoot down these orlans with the help of fividrons, our brigade is also doing this, the charter brigade is also doing this, and the 11th and the 14th brigade of the national guard of ukraine, and the brigades of the armed forces of ukraine and other special forces are doing the same, that is, some technical component of conducting intelligence is being developed, for example, we take uavs, they can fly to more. to a greater depth, and to counteract this, our country is developing countermeasures against the target, that is, some radar stations, bearing stations, and other means that can be used to attack these drones, that is , what you said about your acquaintance from bakhmut, we also worked on bakhmut and the enemy was very close, they used a large amount of artillery ammunition, and now when we see on the territory of the russian federation these warehouses with

ammunition. can ignite, and they understand that they also need to develop and history with fpv drones. when did this fpv drone story even come about? if you remember, there was such a trend when our western partners did not provide us with aid packages for some time, namely ammunition for artillery systems. it is precisely this, you know, such a challenge and response, it is in the trends of history, civilizations arose where, first of all, there were difficult conditions, climatic conditions, where it was not possible, as, for example, in our territories. we had animals with which we could hunt, we could engage in gathering, for example, the sumerian akkadian kingdom, they must had to do by irrigating the ditches, that is, they had to survive, and the same for us, when we had a critical story about ammunition for artillery systems, both of soviet production, this is de-30, and the systems that were provided to us by our partners, these are systems there are three sevens,

paladins. polish crabs, that is, different systems, we have a history that we want to fight, we want to survive, we want to continue to establish our country, and our military, our volunteers, our civilian developers began to invest in the history of fividrons, and that is, it first arose in us due to a lack of ammunition, and now it and will continue to compensate for a certain amount of the lack of ammunition, the russian federation analyzed, saw it for this. we have to understand that we have a very powerful enemy, they have a very powerful intellectual component, they have very powerful microelectronics, which make or part of the component of the production of any drones, any ammunition, homing, the same krasnopoli, it is any which microcircuits are printed, they have a very powerful component that remained after the collapse of the soviet union, it was the same in our country, but due to certain interventions.

federation in the political processes of ukraine, it was simply destroyed, and our country was preparing for, if it were, the occupation of the russian federation, and the tendencies of conducting hostilities, they are constantly changing, this was so so so very disappointing, brought all these processes to changes in the tendencies of conducting hostilities, and they are happening very rapidly now, that is, i am often asked, they tell me, you have been in the army for 10 years, a third of your life, this is actually true, and about... just to analyze how the development of technical means is going up, i was a uav operator before it became mainstream, in the 14th year i took a course, volunteers from ivano-frankivsk collected a quadcopter for us, it is probably not a quadcopter there was there, there were more motors, propellers, they assembled it at the nazazhai base, that is, the dj brains were the controllers, they completely...

soldered, i was already engaged in that, and understanding the level from which our uavs of domestic production have grown in 10 years, i emphasize exactly domestically, not some fly that are produced in europe, then there is germany, many other countries, i want to say that at the price and at the price of western manufacturers, ours are competitive, and that is, in 10 years, this is a very colossal knowledge. the development of all these tools, then i was still an enthusiast who was engaged in radio-electronic intelligence, i ordered a dvr sdr, this is a module that shows tv channels, i connected it to a computer, and i just sat and listened to radio stations and our radio stations, because we used a lot of non-digital ones then radio stations