[000:00:00;00] when they said, yes, commander, you are worthy, you have to take it, take it all, and then i stayed and got a rank, you for that, for what you got then and for the fact that i now have the opportunity with you... to talk about this is in particular, and 8 hours at the start of a large-scale invasion, gostomel, the importance of the airfield and understanding why the russians focused on it in such a way are not for anyone now, well, at least for people who are interested in our war, it is no secret that the russians needed this site in order to besiege their military and transport vehicles in the future airplanes with everything necessary, and already working up the

resource that should be engaged. occupation of our capital, and this was avoided thanks to you and your comrades, in your other interviews you called the first eight hours decisive, and ukraine is right took advantage of this time, mobilized, were there other such peak moments for you during these 2.5 years, which you at least saw for yourself, which we took advantage of. and actually had some fruits, and maybe the peak moments that we missed, you know, those 8 hours actually, as i've said in past interviews, they were very important to our citizens, and a full-scale invasion started like a war, the enemy on he attacked us in the morning, struck by surprise, and i understood that these all day our citizens

could... the management of the national guard of ukraine can mobilize, plan and everything. we, as military personnel, have to fulfill our duty, restrain the enemy, possibly die, and everyone in my team was ready to die, we were then in luhansk region, our unit was military personnel, the military unit was in gostomel, and these military personnel, you know , this was the unity between all commanders and all personnel of the defense and security forces of ukraine. so that everyone understands, now or never, the defense and security forces of ukraine, they performed their function and held out, restrained a colossal amount of enemy aircraft, because serhiy falatiuk was there, at the gostomil airfield, he shot down helicopters that came in, and he was there with the soldiers of our military unit, they restrained the enemy, and this happened all over our line of combat and along the entire border with the russian federation, that is, each commander completed these

tasks. and you know, in the future , i may not have felt such a more significant, more weighty, social unity in the course of 2.5 years, there was a way, you know, the way we were going, there were obstacles somewhere, a certain number of military personnel, it is still united by this common thought, which began at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, that is, this is... and my personnel , military personnel with whom i met, we continue to communicate, and no one is ready and does not want to leave the defense and security forces, these are my fellow airborne assault troops, air forces, ground forces, tank formations, intelligence units, sbu, band, that is, everyone, i know, met with many strong, worthy

servicemen, servicemen. forces of the defense of ukraine, and this unity still holds, there are situations that we took advantage of and that will be in the future, this is the defensive operation in kurshchyna, a situation that did not work out for us, this is our counteroffensive in the south of ukraine, that is, you know, such situations multitude, and the situation of the greatest tragedy, and perhaps the greatest joy, can happen on a small scale. who cares, let's take the zaporozhye direction there, any direction, the lyman direction, the biggest tragedy can happen then, when a bullet fired by some russian soldier kills someone's son, someone's daughter, someone's father, someone's sister, it will be the greatest tragedy on our planet, for the family, for our nation, for our state, because our citizen died, who should

live and advance our country into... the future, into our prosperous future, and this situation, they are for many citizens, they are special, because that's when i was, you know, such situations. the hardest thing is when you attend a funeral or you are told that someone has died and it was recently we buried a scout from our military unit, yehor, and i handed over the flag with the words, on behalf of the president of ukraine, the supreme commander-in-chief, i ask you to accept this flag as a symbol of the state that your son served faithfully and to the end, and when the mother began to... just sob and cry, and she accepts this flag, and she understands that our struggle continues, she lost her son, but she did not lose the country, and my voice is shaking when i say this, she did not lose

the country, and this is unity, it and we still have, and we unite in such difficult critical ones situation, and we still have this critical situation, because as we talked with you at the beginning, when the enemy hits the ivad publishing house in kharkiv... destroys our books, he destroys our culture, when he hits institutes, when he hits schools, he wants to destroy our intellectual component so that we do not develop, but our citizens continue to print books in the ukrainian language, write poems, develop new means of rap, develop new uavs that can burn warehouses in depth of the russian federation, new citizens who perform a security operation. in the kursk region, the same ones who have already been fighting for 2.5 years, they are losing their health, and they are not going to the szz, and they will continue to fight in the pokrov direction, and we have enough strong citizens and enough forces, motivation to oppose the russian

federation in the future thank you for this conversation, i will remind our viewers that we had the opportunity to talk with vitaly lytvyn, a hero of ukraine, an officer of the national guard of ukraine, the ruby brigade. and we are very grateful to the read it bookstore for giving us such a little opportunity informal atmosphere to hold this very important conversation for me, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you espress team, my name is khrystyna yatskiv and see you soon. vasyl zema's big broadcast, my name is vasyl zema, it's a big broadcast on the espresso tv channel, two hours of air time, two hours of your time, me and my colleagues will talk about the most important thing, two hours to learn about

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the caring, in the today program verdict with serhiy rudenko: terrorist attack on kherson, six dead and as many wounded in... as a result of the morning shelling of the kherson market by enemy artillery, what should be the reaction of western partners to mass casualties among civilians in ukraine. a key priority for european security. the new nato secretary general mark rutte promises to increase aid to ukraine and facilitate its entry into the north atlantic alliance. with what he leaves the post of general secretary. yen stoltenberg.

reform steps in the ministry of defense. rustem umyerov conducted a number of staff recruitments in the ministry of defense. will the creation of supervisory boards under ministerial state agencies help clean up the defense procurement system. glory to ukraine. this is the verdict program. my name is rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the war, the world, and our victory. right now, iran attacked israel, let's talk about that, about the difficult situation in the middle east and how this situation will affect the russian-ukrainian war, or rather, the support of ukraine by the united states of america. however, before starting. for our long conversation, i suggest

watching the video of the consequences of russian terrorists shelling the center of kherson with artillery this morning, enemy shells hit the market and the bus stop, unfortunately, six people died, six more were injured, a creepy video of the first minutes after the explosions, the head of the regional military administration oleksandr prokudin said,

let's see, six. the eternal memory of the dead and the death of the russian occupiers. friends, throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about whether you expect the united states of america to allow long-distance driving at the next raimstein, which will take place on october 12. so, yes, not on youtube. it's pretty simple, either yes or no, if you have an opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video if you watch us on tv, take your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers yes 0800 211 381, no - 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's first guest, dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada. of ukraine in 2019-21.

mr. dmitry, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. good evening, thank you for the invitation. quite a difficult evening today, it turned out, and literally before our broadcast, iran attacked israel. there is a lot of information about this. the jerusalem post reports that iran has fired about 400 rockets at israel, they write about some explosions. in tel aviv at some oil rigs or some other industrial enterprises. all this, dear tv viewers, is happening literally live, here we are watching the news feed, and it is clear that this whole story unfolding in the middle east is a long-delayed military operation by iran against israel and, accordingly, all others. countries that oppose

of the state of israel, how the current situation will affect the attitude of the united states of america and attention, will it not divert attention from ukraine to the middle east, especially since the elections here remain in the united states of america, well, literally a month, and it is clear that the ukrainian delegation , while in washington and new york last week, did everything to draw... attention to the russian-ukrainian war, a full-fledged war is unfolding in the middle east, how will it affect us, obviously will affect and will affect negatively , first of all, there are much more lobbyists for israel in the united states of america than those who defend the ukrainian position, plus you mentioned the trip that was last week, after which we saw, in the mass media, such serious publications of the united states

that that zelenskyi's star is rolling in and the like, but this is not zelenskyi's question, i think that in this case we absolutely do not care about his stars. but the question regarding ukraine is fundamental today, and it would be necessary to work, in my opinion, well in a different format, because we also received internal scandals connected with a meeting with trump, with a visit to certain factories, so that accusations began that ukraine takes one or another position, supports certain candidates, we cannot allow it allow, we always worked to ensure that we had support from the outside. two parties, two candidates and the current president of the united states of america. unfortunately, today we saw what we saw. returning to the war in the middle east, if it turns out there in the full sense of such a thing war, then it will negatively affect

the level of support for ukraine. most of the weapons will go there, but they, it is not unlimited, and it also runs out in the warehouses of our partners. it's no secret, and if they choose, the lion's share of it is likely to go specifically to help israel in the fight, if plus additional ground operations are deployed, so i'm quite pessimistic about it, if it doesn't just end with iran striking the e israel, and further we will see the aggravation, or kindling of this flame to the neighbor. east then for ukraine this is a minus, for our country with you in the fight against the aggressor, it will be a minus. well, but this is obviously a plus for our enemies of the russian federation, because another conflict and, shall we say, the final formation of this axis of evil, which includes russia, iran,

syria, north korea, china, it is not clear how they will even be involved in this middle eastern conflict and the middle eastern war, but it is quite obvious that this... uh, that's what putin is counting on, because when attention is focused only on the russian-ukrainian war, and in that including the united nations, does this mean that all power is directed against putin, and not only against the satellites or classmates of this coalition? well, it is 100%. the only, so to speak, positive point is that iran will use part of its missiles in other military conflicts. and less will be supplied for russia and the same with the shaheds, but nevertheless here you cannot take the position that someone's grief should pass by you, nevertheless, the question of our security is for me much more fundamental than any other challenges facing other

states, aside from all the sadness, let's talk about what is happening in ukraine, since today, october 1, is the day of defenders and protection. ukraine, on this day we congratulate those who protect us, and indeed, do the unthinkable, stop the enemy of the enemy on the border with the country from evil, the minister of defense of ukraine rustem umyerov submitted to the cabinet of ministers the dismissal of four of his deputies, stanislav hayder, oleksandr serhiy, yuriy dzhugira and lyudmila daragan, how she hugged the position of state secretary, in addition to personnel changes, umyerov focused on reforming defense procurement, and at the same time, according to him , the state-owned enterprise spetstechnoexport will transfer to gur, from gur to the ministry of defense, the defense procurement agency and the state operator tiru tylu will be

reformed in accordance with nato standards , set the task of completing the process of cleaning up the procurement system in close cooperation with law enforcement and anti-corruption bodies. wrote to me, mira on facebook, do you understand why they are fired in one day four deputy ministers of defense during the war, three deputy ministers and the undersecretary, in fact i would like to hear the position of the minister, why he is doing this, because if the reform is only now starting, but he has been in this position for a long time, if the reform is only now started, or he just now saw that these people are occupying... not the positions in which they should work, then this is a big problem for us, for everyone, i will not reveal the secret, there were many rumors that they will be changed the minister defense, this did not happen, we are today we see that there has been a rotation, or rather not a rotation, because the cabin released only

the secretary of state and one deputy, the other two are still in limbo, we will see how the events will unfold, but this, well, from the point of view of the leader, this is a bad story, because when you come out and say that four people who were not the closest involved in the reformation process. or the work of the ministry of defense does not correspond to its professional, and otherwise it is difficult for me to explain why this is happening now with professional abilities and competence, then in first of all, this is a question for you, as a leader, on the other hand, i talked a lot about it when there were changes in the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, when some people were appointed to supposedly ministries, why i say that, because of the change. people in these positions, the efficiency of these or other ministries does not improve, the decision is made in

the president's office, and it probably works the same way at the level of deputies, for some of them, who was fired, the deputies did not even know who it was, and for some, who was appointed, it was also possible simply appointing portraits, placing them at the table of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, and this would in no way affect the quality of work, because... the decision is really made in the office of the president and everything that does not happen today in the state is the president's area of ​​responsibility. unfortunately, we see a lot of problems, a lot of miscalculations, a lot of corruption scandals, but these are all the consequences of the work that was launched and is being implemented today at the op level. well, you mean the management system or the personnel system appointments? i mean everything, and the management system, or rather, the absence of it. management and lack of adequate appointments, adequate people for positions, why? because there

is no need for a smart, you know, approach, when you select people who can be more effective, more competent in one or another direction, for positions than yourself, this is not about the office of the president, from my point of view, these people, on the contrary, strengthened efficiency, lead the team, but in the office it is perceived as creating competition, internal or external, and it is not well received where that's why such people don't sit there, they are removed, i understand that because of this same competition, there are rumors, and probably they will end someday with a final personnel agreement, regarding budanov, the head of the gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, because during the last... two or for three weeks, i have been watching information leak, and on various resources close to the office, let's

call a spade a spade, that is, that he is planned to be removed, so this story is not new, i think it is true, he is a competent officer, he in place i will state my own position, and i believe that if this happens, it will be an attempt to usurp power, to remove people who did a lot for... for the country to survive in the first hours and days of the war, i would like to remind everyone that budanov is just one of the few who was not afraid even before the start of a full-scale invasion, despite the fact that the president said that no, we should prepare for barbecues, budano indicated that a full-scale invasion is very likely, and it is thanks to the work of guru, whom he leads , i think we were able to hold and thanks to... more faithful to this work, we were able to hold kyiv when representatives of the president's office, such as podalyak, suggested not to blow up the bridges

because they thought that some people were also going there, i don't know the logic in this, i think that there will be time, and on these questions will have to be answered, but if budanov is removed, it will reflect negatively on guru's work, and it will be a demonstrative usurpation of all power agencies under the president's office. and that this rotation is not related to the vote in the council, the president can issue a decree tomorrow, and it will be exactly it seems to me that even the decision of the minister of defense can be made, yes, but, you are absolutely right, it will be done by the hands of the minister of defense, if it is made, but the decision will be made by the president, we must understand that such decisions do not take place without him, this year , there has already been one high-profile resignation of valery zaluzhny, the head of the armed forces of ukraine. he is the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in

great britain. obviously, budanov will have a similar story in... danov's rating is quite high, he is in the top ten there, exactly or in the top five, even politicians of ukraine, whom ukrainians trust. according to the level of trust, i will give whether this means that the president of ukraine is preparing for the elections, and the thesis of the british publication za economist that presidential elections may be held in ukraine in 2025 is true. look, while the state is fighting to preserve itself and remain a state, i am now talking about... the citizens of our country, about our defenders, about everyone who is doing everything on their front to ensure that ukraine remains ukraine, and not part of russia , or was torn between different states of the world, the president is preparing for elections, instead of preparing for war, he was preparing for barbecues, now instead of preparing

the state for a very difficult winter that is approaching, he is preparing for elections, and this is not a new history, it happens every spring and every autumn, i already call it the spring-autumn escalation, the first preparation for the elections, they planned to hold the first elections in the fall of the 22nd year, then it was the spring of the 23rd, then it was the fall on the 23rd, then the spring of the 24th, after that it became almost treason to think about elections, and now they are starting again... even talking about preparing and preparing for elections, and only presidential elections in the spring of the 24th , i don’t understand how they are, don’t ask me how this can happen according to the current legislation, i don’t know, but the problem is that the constitution is rarely read in the president’s office, laws are rarely read in principle, so based on this , preparations for the elections are ongoing, i am not now

not even about the resolution that today... everyone is discussing related to the cec, there was a similar resolution before, but the political society that exists today began to prepare for the elections, although in fact it should be preparing for a difficult winter , which is approaching, this is the first, second, i think that our international partners are also tired from ope and the extreme visit to... no states is also a confirmation of that, so the probability of holding such elections is high, it is difficult to say whether it is correct, because sometimes one man to me once said a terrible ending is better than endless horror, in this case we'll see how things unfold, i 'll ask you a short question, you give me

a short answer, i've been told that... some of the potential candidates who can take part in the elections, they are already contracting some people in advance, and such a process is underway, you, as a person who once knew the entire market of political technologists in ukraine, and who prepared this or that election, is there such a process now, and as far as i know, i still am i am not currently engaged in election processes, i certainly do not contract anyone and do not build headquarters, because today other challenges face all... competent people in ukraine, i repeat once again, but there are talks about the fact that back offices have already appeared in the op, there is talk going on and on that people have already started working, well time will tell how true it is, it's true, another event happened today, mark rutte, this is the former prime minister of the netherlands, became the new general secretary nato, he was and

remains a supporter of ukraine, even today in... in his program speech, rutte called ukraine one of the main priorities in his future work. let's listen to what the new secretary general of the north atlantic alliance said. my second priority is to strengthen support for ukraine and bring it closer to nato, because there can be no strong, lasting security in europe without a strong, independent ukraine. i know from my own experience, after the downing of flight mh-17 in 2014. that the conflict in ukraine is not limited to the front line, so we must do our part, we must fulfill the package of financial obligations agreed on washington summit and confirm ukraine's irreversible path to membership in the future, as ukraine's rightful place in