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to someone who knows how to scan qr codes who can do it, give that person paper hryvnias, ask him to transfer hryvnias from his account. well, we will add, in the meantime, to our conversation, actually yevgeny ievlev, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, we will most likely talk to him by phone, now he is unable to contact us via the internet, we ourselves understand that these are the circumstances where mr. yevhen is now. mr. eugene, can you hear us? yes, i wish you health. good morning to you, and please tell me whether you are on the turkish route, if so, or tell me where you are, what is your situation there? yes, nothing was learned in our unit, we continue to hold the defensive line, this direction was called horlivsky, now due to the activation of its actions. it is more customary to call it

turecki, because the situation near turecki is quite difficult, the combat and offensive actions of the enemy have intensified as much as possible, and we continue to hold a defensive line, more so in the direction of horlivka, because we are a little closer to horlivka. what is the situation there now, what is happening now? the enemy continues his offensive actions, continues his assault actions, but i can tell you that for sure... for about a week and a half, all their attacks and attacks on our positions ended in failure for them, but they do not stop trying, the equipment is constantly working, they are constantly working savishkas, mortars are constantly flying, there are no big problems in terms of personnel either, it's just that despite how much we managed to withdraw there to more advantageous lines and more advantageous positions, we now really sat down in the defense lane, which allows us to hold back the rush. but that's it

you know, until they just turn it into some kind of twisted piece of land, shall we say . you follow the news from ugledar, that's 100%, mr. evgeny, actually, what do you think about what is happening in ugledar? you know, maybe if i wasn't an active military serviceman, i would give you a little emotional answer there, but i have high hopes that the situation really... it got so stalemate that our command had to take the guys away in order to save lives, but frankly from the dry facts that can be said, you all know that the 72nd brigade held the defense there for quite a long time, and even our units were deployed there more than once above the 72nd brigade, while this unit stood there, until the enemy could break through the defenses of this city for 2.5 years, for 2.5 years they fought to strike and could not take it, but i can really assume that everything is not only... the question is because, i don’t want

to popularize the opinion that it was not necessary to withdraw the 72nd, because in 2.5 years, believe me, the sub-dissolution is winding down so that it is possible that they really could not physically hold these boundaries anymore, so most likely it is true a forced measure, if we talk about the russian offensive, the war research institute says that the loss of the coal miner will not, will not change, will not have much importance now for the overall situation at the front, and in the end the russians themselves write that for them the most important thing is rather selidovo - the kurakh direction, and it is there that they are now concentrating their efforts on... well , look here, let's be honest about it, in fact, it cannot be said that there is nothing for them strategically, there will be no strategic gains, because not far from vogodaru, there is

a railway branch 5-7 kilometers away, which connects and provides the possibility of a land route, let's say, to the crimea, this branch was under our fire control, it's... it's no secret that many military experts also said about it , and just military and soviet experts, so you can’t say that they won’t gain anything, but if you look at it globally, well, with what to compare, let’s say, there has been a war for 2.5 years, ah, the goal of the russians was to capture the entire state , after 2.5 years they are trampled on because they managed to capture it by snoring, and it did not even reach the administrative border of the donetsk region, so we can truly say that every city there does not mean anything strategic for the russians. eh, selidovo, kurakhovo and pokrovsk in particular, come on, and how do you call them executioners, they are these cities, by 40 to 50 percent, and some and more have already been destroyed by artillery and mortars, that is, these cities from where people left , it can be said that they

will not give anything to the russians strategically there either, it is exclusively some kind of image victory, but it is also possible to reach kyiv itself, if considered in such a global context, that is why it is difficult for me, i agree with the opinion that for us... if russia means, and they do not give anything. okay. the lord is occupying him, that she is nothing to us yevgeny, yesterday, yesterday was the day of the defender and the defender, and i saw the thoughts of people whose relatives are fighting, the thoughts of people who defend the country themselves, about the fact that, at the moment, there is such the feeling that this is a holiday specifically for those who are involved in the war, and... those who can distance themselves, can afford it, such luxury, they somehow bypass this day, which it was yesterday for you, what you talked about with your brothers, and do you have this feeling that there is this division in society, and it is more and more, it is more and more, there

is a growing border between those people who understand that there is a war in the country and are doing something to win this war, and those people who said: that war is somewhere far away, and it does not concern us, you know, about those who are bypassed, it seems, even on your broadcast i remembered that i will draw such an analogy, being on vacation, me and the boys, those from i serve once, i encountered them in the same way, when people in the center of the city of kyiv, in the center of the city of dnipro, when you walk down the street, somewhere they lower their eyes for inexplicable reasons, or because they have their power somewhere. are tormenting or is it this, i want to think so, but maybe there are some secondary reasons as well, and the same people, as you say, skip it, but what a holiday it was for us, first of all, i want to say that in this on the holiday, i heard or read many of those enemies with whom i could not communicate six months a year ago that in the military society it really is, well, i

want to tell you what it feels like, i can't help but say that there is a festive atmosphere, let's say so, but feel that this is a significant date, a significant date for the military e. and a symbolic date, symbolic when you receive greetings from all those who, as you said, are relevant, not necessarily those who serve there, because in fact this holiday for me, for example, is associated with the glorification of our cossack lineage, our cossack heritage , let's put it this way, that's why i say, the middle-military society really talked to many people, with whom they had not communicated for a long time, also congratulated each other, and i will tell you that this is the day when... you understand this is our cossack inheritance, well, it gives a little motivation to the spirit, i wrote the day before yesterday , it seems that maria berlinska, a well-known volunteer, posted about that, which collected a huge number of different distribution of likes, and was resonant, it

is discussed, it is reposted, where she wrote that she did not want to scare anyone, well, then she scared a little, she said that ... unless we change our approaches and the rules of the game in this one wars, ways, methods, provision of the front, training of the mobilized. state management and so on, then we will lose this war, we will lose it in a few years at the most, and this also resonates with the publication of the editorial economics from the british, who say that we must admit that we will lose this war, and ukrainians must admit it to themselves , and the western partners to understand this too, otherwise, well, new approaches are needed, what do you think about this, the person who is at the front holding back russia's own offensive, look,

i absolutely cannot disagree with ms. maria, and i will tell you, i will start from the end, and for some reason it seems to me that the dynamics that we will lose will be felt by the western partners faster than the ukrainian society, for the reason that some people do not want to let these thoughts come to them, because i'm sorry, i'll say it as they are, because... someone is afraid to go to the front, someone is afraid for their son, because it seems to them that their son is closer to them than someone else's son, someone is afraid for their husband, her husband is closer to her , than another man for father and so on and so on and so on further, and people are trying frankly, and i , too, many from the civil society openly try to drive away these thoughts that we are losing, and i am starting to look for the guilty, not themselves to blame for the fact that they are not coming to defend today, guilty among the politicians, guilty among statesmen and so on and so on, and why should i go while someone is sitting there in a chair, when i will go... then i will go, it is about the fact that the partners will feel

this dynamic sooner than we do. regarding what needs to be changed, look, there are dozens of positions and each one can be discussed separately half an hour, i will tell you about what can be said for sure, and there is no secret here. the most key position is mobilization. everyone says that the russians there created something new at the front, that they had such dynamics in the donetsk region, which we could observe from april, the month after ... vodiivka, there was nothing above the latest and above the super there, the problem is only in the above the super there there was no, the problem is only that, the problem is that we have a very serious lack of infantry, without infantry the positions cannot be held, the attack aircraft repulse the positions bepalashniks are flying, burning equipment, and believe me, here at those lines where the enemy has advanced, a lot of equipment has been burned there, this is seriously also a painful blow for the russian army, but the key thing is that if there is no infantry except to hold the lines, but... with infantry there really is certain problems, then, unfortunately, i don’t want to lay anyone down, unfortunately, the front line will

get closer, get closer, may get closer to the cities that we are even talking about today, i am not even talking about anyone, national times, wrote, from the words one of the commanders on the front line, for example, there are eight trained under pokrovsk the soldiers held their position for a couple of weeks and killed more than 100 russians, well, that's from the words of the commander. eight, and all were lightly wounded, and then they were taken for rotation, as the commander said, they were in a state of shock, but they held on and did their job, then they brought in new recruits, and there were also six of them and two dowries were with experience also two two-year war, and all six newly mobilized died in the first couple of days, and the positions had to be left. and this was actually an illustration, it may be a special case, he maybe does not illustrate the general situation with

mobilization, but they also said that the problem was that the newly mobilized were not ready either psychologically or physically, they were all over 45 and so on, well, in a word , there is such a story, or you too you know such cases, as far as when we talk about mobilization as it should be, look, these cases cannot be called, so you said that... you can draw a global picture from them, but believe me, there are many such cases, and here i want to tell you, in fact, well, i have not yet met one mobilized, who would not be physically prepared there, because believe me, they go through the training centers in the same and the same terms as our brothers who went there a year, a year and a half ago, and the most important issue is moral readiness go to fight, here... everything is very simple, i can't say that there is any solution on the surface, how to change it, but we

understand very well that all those who were morally ready to go and fight, they left in the first year and a half, now who comes, people, who were sent from the enterprise, who worked for a while, but the enterprise is forced to give up its people, well, that is, they directly say that people are coming who definitely did not come to defend the country of their own free will, what do you think, the training center, how can you not prepare them physically, what do not do with them, what will be, what will be the moral component? people, when they get to the front, he will have one task: to survive, because any healthy person between dying and not dying will choose not to die, and well, this is an unfortunate case that you told about, but... a lot some of them just run away from the position, well , they leave, what is called there, they go to the szz, deserters and so on and so on, so i say, on the surface there is no solution, how to solve it, but in fact it is washed away only by the fact that they morally are not ready to go and defend their country, and hundreds of those who are called up today, maybe ten, well, this is so personally, approximately my statistics, there are

about ten people during their stay in the training center who really make a decision within themselves that everything is already in their life . there was, let's say, a turn, where is he forced to make a decision that he is a military man, he will defend himself, but not all come, i mean, not all are like that, not ready to fight, but in fact, well, a very minimal percentage, mr. even, thank you for this conversation, we wish you, our viewers also thank you, they wrote in the comments, thanking you for your work and sending good words for you and your brothers, as well, it was yevhen ivliv, a military serviceman. of the forces of ukraine, which is now in the turkish direction, dear friends, we are going for a short break, we will be back, serhii zurets will be with us, a military expert, let's talk with him about the situation at the front, the situation around the voglodar, stay with us, the new season is your pair, order a move, super warm and very comfortable alaska style boots, perfect fit, water-repellent

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now let's talk, in general, what is happening on the front lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, we work in this studio for you until 12 o'clock. now is the time to talk with serhiy zgurets, a military expert and director of the defense express information and consulting company. mr. serhiy, we congratulate you. good morning, greetings to you, greetings to our viewers. mr. serhiy, i am just speaking. yevhen ivlivy and i, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine from the turkish direction, he joined us and said that the main problem now is the lack of infantry, and that is why the russians have been able to advance since avdiivka, and there is simply no good solution as to where to take motivated soldiers into the infantry who held a position, i, we, as information specialists , understand that there may be about... problems of information policy, even take the same story with the ugledar, that is, we will find out from the deep state, that the russians seem to have taken the lead, then we have a statement from the institute for the study

of war, where, although it is based in america, there is also a question, because it is there, well, it consists of many ukrainians and very often duplicates some presidential office stories, too, well at least i see it as an informationalist, and accordingly, then we were not given an order , it goes away, i say everything before that, the fact that in our country, in principle, no one listens to the general staff, for example, and what is the point, debst sooner he will say something, the remoter will comment on something, the fair will tweet something, and so on, and this simply undermines trust and makes no sense. what is happening, and since there is no understanding, instead there are some positive bloggers with pumped up, lips, lips, yes, who go

and interview the leaders of ova, who show that they do sports there, they talk about coffee, they drink in the morning or tea, and this creates such a warm bath for a dyistic ukrainian, who does not have a bomb fall on his head every day, who is not on the front line, not in the front-line areas, who says, okay, i am myself. i'm living my life, i don't want to die, i'm talking about the fact that there is something wrong with our information policy, and this is very visible on the example of the ugledar, well, it's hard for me to talk about information policy, and i'll say that relatively speaking, really right now we have one of the most difficult periods on the front line in all previous times in comparison with a large-scale invasion, because now in all areas of the front the enemy is trying to use the advantage of manpower over equipment, the advantage is tangible when we are talking, for example, about the same ugledar, we were talking there, one brigade of ours, five moscow brigades , but at the same time, if we count the number

of personnel that were in our brigade, attached units, and in particular in the enemy, then the ratio of manpower was one to 12, 1:10, plus we add here the enemy cabs, which are one of the permanent elements of the russian attack and against the action against them, which still does not exist. creates the conditions for the enemy's advantage to advance, and what was done in ugledar by the defenders of the 72nd brigade is, of course , courage and a feat, but of course we also understand that if we had the strength and means to ensure the coverage of ugledar from the flanks, it would probably be possible to defend ughledar further, but precisely the lack of the strength of means is felt in all areas of the front, and therefore when... in the turkish direction, it is similar to other directions where the enemy really has an advantage, commander sirskyi also says

that... there is a need for motivated infantry, there is a need for more time to train these soldiers who are mobilizing , but sometimes there is a lack of time, so it’s precisely the shortened training periods, military personnel are found in combat units, there they are already undergoing training in much more difficult conditions, this is what reflects the general situation, plus we know that there is a pause in the supply of weapons for a long time, our miscalculations with at the pace of mobilization, all this is now slowly gathering to... while the enemy is recruiting these one-time soldiers for money, which relatively speaking, over the past month the largest number of russian soldiers has been increased and destroyed, according to the general staff, 38 thousand per month, yes, despite the fact that they can be restored to about 30 thousand, but in any case, now the enemy still has a numerical advantage on the front line, how to get out of this, well, in fact, still get on the real military rails for the life of the whole

country. not only the front, but society itself must still be rebuilt, this is precisely the question for the authorities, how to really mobilize society and get out of the warm bath format, which can really significantly threaten the perception of these threats by our society in comparison with what is really happening on the front and what is being reflected in official telegram channels or official mass media. the cabinet of ministers allowed commanders to call up volunteers without tsk. how will it work well, that's what we talked about dozens of times on our broadcast when we talked to the officers who say that we want to staff our brigades with motivated guys, we know who will come to us, but due to the fact that such, relatively speaking, intercepts our potential soldiers, the meaning was lost, and even recruits the centers that were set up and there were promises that the people going through those centers would... drink in the

parts they chose, and that didn't work. now i hope that after this resolution the situation will change, and really it will depend on what the potential is a soldier will know in which team he will continue to fight, who is his commander, and in the long run this should really improve the situation, but in the long run, because once again too much time was spent on this idea being implemented on legal grounds, although there is component that... we have a number of new brigades that are being formed there, which also need to be replenished with personnel, and here i think that certain nuances will arise, because the general staff will still direct certain such orders so that these new brigades were also formed not only at the expense of of these direct decisions of the commanders, but in any case the step is positive, but somewhat

late from the point of view of the need and... real establishment of interaction between the potential military and those brigades that are being formed , there are fewer minutes left, botusov's well-known criticism, in particular, that that there is no need to increase more brigades of new ones that are poorly prepared, it is better to increase those brigades that have proven their fighting ability, what do you think about it, 30 seconds, the topic is difficult, in any case, we understand that the war does not end tomorrow, we have to to form reserves, we we cannot, conditionally speaking, only combat brigades deter the enemy, we need reserves until... that this will precisely affect the volume of mobilization and the review of approaches to the number of soldiers who have to fight, plus weapons from the west and our manufacturers. well, just a little bit, but i will still squeeze in this question, if there is a big war in the east, is it bad for us, i will divert attention, yes, it will distract the attention of many countries from our war with the russian federation, it will make it somewhat difficult, but we also we have to take into account these risks based on well now mainly on own capabilities. mr. serhiy, thank you very much. serhiy zgrets,

military expert, director of information consulting. was with us, dear friends, there are a few seconds left until 9 o'clock in the morning, this is the time when we all have to stop and observe a moment of silence to honor those ukrainians who are no longer with us due to russian aggression and stop in a moment of silence not only for the holiday, the holiday of defenders and defenders of ukraine, so let's honor her moments of silence, in honor... with a moment of silence in memory of ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.