army, he had nothing to transport the red army, i’m not talking about the fuel for the planes and the planes themselves, er, but it’s about something else, it’s about the fact that if you want victory with reliance on western countries, then you must to start with the harmony of ukrainian society with western societies, i.e. the rule of law, freedom of speech, this is the key to joining the eu and nato, and they want to join nato with an authoritarian regime, because what zelenskyy and yermak built with in the 19th century, it has very little resemblance to democracy, very much does not resemble democracy, that is, they were preparing the country so that no one would ever take ukraine into any nato, and it seems to me that the current pedaling with this plan for victory, which just jumped out somewhere from behind, is a plan.

of peace on behalf of zelenskyi, and these two plans, they somehow do not agree at the turns of certain political collisions, political projects or political intentions, but all this eventually comes together in some kind of picture that the peace plan, or rather the victory plan from zelenskyi it looks like this: uh, we need to bring something from the united states, ok, let's rename the peace plan, the victory plan, let's write, give us a lot of weapons, a lot of money, well, it's called, dig deeper, throw further, this is such an army principle, of the soviet army, so they proposed a victory plan, which boils down to the obligation to throw more, and dig deeper, throw further, but give... us a shovel,

and in order for someone to throw with this shovel, we will continue mobilization until the state when no one will work in the economy. against this background, mr. volodymyr, there was information that olaf scholz was going to call putin, but they are discussing that it is possible, that it is impossible, and they are talking about the fact that, as it were, he will call putin before. the g20 in brazil, which is to be held in november, and here is the main question, no no, it is not known whether the german newspaper diedside was wrong or not, whether they really had an insight that something was going to call putin, but here this bell is not the bell that lets us understand that our western partners are ready to conduct a dialogue with russia, if not with putin, then with russia for sure. nowadays in

the current state and in their current aggressive policy, under their aggressive policy. well, first of all, it seems to me that this throw-in is caused by the state of german politics, that is, it is known that the social democrats performed very poorly in the last local elections, and this is the specifics of the federal republic of germany, exactly what happened in these lands. the eastern lands, the elections were more precisely held in the eastern lands, and the social democrats do not have the best positions there, they, well, in the good old germany, they have an excellent position, so i would not say that the social democrats are not feeling well at all , but still giving way to an alternative for germany is unworthy of a good old authoritative party, and in fact...

it seems to me that this particular attack was organized by moscow in order to hint to scholz that : "and you start making friends with moscow, and your voter will return to you." this is such, well, the provocation is definitely moscow's, because from the point of view of the interest of germany, any contact with putin does not bring any good to any political force, well, except for the alternative for... germany, even such a new star of german politics, sara wagen knycht, who created her own left-wing party, she is now disowning herself from any contacts with putin, that is, this throw, it seems to me that it was a countermeasure to the fact that even sarwagenknecht does not see an ally or partner in putin's russia. obviously, this whole story with scholz, it... is also connected with

the upcoming meeting, the four-way meeting of great britain, germany, france and the united states of america, because... literally in a few days in germany this meeting will take place and there, obviously, this quartet will decide the future of ukraine in terms of the use of long-range weapons of western states, yesterday mark rutte became the new secretary general of nato, he was the prime minister of the netherlands, he advocated allowing ukraine to strike the territory of the russian federation, at the same time admitted that these should be the decisions of individual... countries, let's hear what mr. rutte said. let's not forget that ukraine is waging a war for self-defense. this means that ukraine has the right to defend itself. and, as we know, according to

with international law, this right does not end at the border. therefore, supporting ukraine's right to self-defense means an opportunity for it to strike at legitimate targets as well. in the territory of the aggressor, in the end, each member of the alliance must determine the level of their support for ukraine, this is not decided by me, this is a question for the members of the alliance and their relations with ukraine, more precisely, mr. volodymyr, i would clarify, it is decided by the level of relations with russia of these countries, that is, because they are afraid that russia will respond, what do you say? to what ryuta said, of course, he there is a functionary, the secretary general of nato, but there are countries that decide this, why are these countries afraid to give us permission to use their weapons on the territory of the russian federation? well, a number of countries are simply hanging, so

to speak, with this decision, because there is an internal opposition that immediately starts such, well, tough protest actions, or at least on... rhetoric, and then to the readiness to bring people to the streets. such a picture, by the way, is clearly recorded in the united states, only somewhere biden, well, only zelensky addresses biden about giving permission to strike russia, as trump immediately shouts that biden wants to start world war iii. the same thing happens in other countries, in particular european ones, so as we remember, the gas lobby is russian, it... penetrated deeply into european politics, and even countries that got rid of gas dependence, russian, still see relapses of gas the lobbies are still spewing out, well, we can say that the same publication about scholz and the intention to call putin is also from this order.

that allowed to beat on the territory of russia and on changes in nato policy. i have this feeling... that the united states is quietly preparing for the europeanization of nato, that is, american experts have been saying for a long time that europe is self-sufficient, europe can keep order here with its own forces, and the united states should switch to the pacific theater of war actions, and i have this feeling... that the pacific ocean zone is really called the most promising economic zone of the 21st century, that is, china is there, the united states is there, japan is there, mr. volodymyr, we should finish, if possible

in short, that's why it seems to me that the question will not only be about permission, but also about nato becoming a european structure, and therefore ukraine... thank you mr. volodymyr, it was volodymyr tsibulko, a political expert, friends, we'll see now for the interim results of our survey, we are asking you today whether you think presidential elections in the 25th year are possible, so what are our interim television results, 25% yes, 75% no, thousands of ukrainians found themselves in a similar situation, sofa on one side. suits you, and as soon as it comes time to sleep on it, the thought immediately arises to replace it. an understanding is coming, why the question of changing the sofa is so urgent, but replacing the sofa is an effective and at the same time rational solution. instead of buying a new sofa for more than uah 10,000, buy

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and in the second part of our program we will talk about the following. movement according to the plan of victory. zelensky hopes to force putin to make peace. what to expect from the four-way meeting of the leaders of the usa, germany, france and britain at the next ramstein. how is russia preparing for a prolonged confrontation with the united states during the cold war, how long will russian determination to escalate last? stakes in confrontation with nato. pre-election movements: the cec restored the registration of permanent polling stations in the state register of voters. is there any reason to talk about the preparation of the president's office for the elections in 2025 . friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our

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to introduce today's guest of our studio, this is maksym rozumny. political expert, doctor of political sciences. mr. maksym, i congratulate you, thank you for joining the broadcast. congratulations, congratulations. oleg sahakyan, political scientist, co-founder of the national platform for stability and cohesion. mr. oleg, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. councils see and hear each other. well, since, gentlemen, we are asking our viewers and tv viewers what they think about the presidential elections next year, as the british weekly the economist predicts and the british write that such elections are possible in ukraine, referring to your sources in the headquarters of even ukrainian politicians, what do you think, to what extent is this possible, and under what conditions, let's first answer

this question in the format of a blitz poll and continue this topic already during the program, mr. maksym, and, well, i would say that... here the question is, on the one hand, complicated, because a lot of factors must be taken into account, and on the other hand, it is simple, since the answer to it is clear, so it is possible, possible presidential elections in the 25th year, but if, conditionally speaking, in autumn, winter, in the near future there will be a freezing of the conflict, along the front line, which many other experts are talking about, and... and i would like to mention that our government, as you know, was no longer planning the military for the second half of the 24th year spending, so i think that's probably also a signal that the active phase of the war can end at any moment, it is obvious that the future elections also depend on this, which, the election

campaign, it is clear that will start immediately after the end of martial law, thank you... mr. oleg, well, it is obvious that hypothetically they possible, if we're talking about laboratory conditions and looking at the whole range of options, it's clear that if the war ends, if the conditions are secure, if many different aspects and a whole constellation of factors are put together in a design that makes elections possible, then they will happen, but if you you ask, and what is the probability of this, i will say it is extremely low. now. and the situation with military dynamics and with geopolitical dynamics, it does not indicate that such conditions will be created, so i think that this story about the holding of elections will add to the fact that four times during the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, they have already talked about the possibility of holding elections they

were supposed to be in the spring of the 23rd year, they happened in the fall of the 23rd, the spring of the 24th, now the fall of the 24th. and now they are again talking about the 25th year, about the possibility of holding elections in the spring, i think that a high the probability that this will be the fifth date when the election does not take place. why, why are we talking about this today not only, thanks to british journalists, this got into our program, but there are other facts and factors that allow us to talk about it and discuss this topic, well, in particular, the central election... commission resumed the work of the state of the register of voters in the part of the accounting of permanent polling stations, they explained that this is regular planned work that is carried out constantly, but we understand that the regularity of the work of the central election commission, it is also dictated by the regularity of elections, otherwise the work of election commissions and the reconciliation of these registers

and voters and polling stations, well, it is absolutely some kind of monkey work, because if you forgive me for this, then i, if there are no elections, then in principle, it is obvious that there is no such job and... if it is, then it indicates that such elections may take place. dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine and former speaker of the ukrainian parliament, was on the air of our tv channel yesterday, i asked him about whether there are talks about holding presidential elections next year, and he said that in some headquarters even. potential candidates, there is already talk of creating back offices. let's listen to what razumko said. as far as i know, i am

still not currently engaged in election processes, i certainly do not contract anyone and do not build headquarters, because today other challenges face all adequate people in ukraine, i repeat once again, but the conversations about what has already "bekofis appeared in op, continue and go such conversations that people have already started. to work, well, time will tell to what extent this is true, but razumkov says that such back offices are being created, i don’t know, gentlemen, you also probably consult various politicians and various political forces, perhaps you know, regarding the possibility of contracting or proposals for the following presidential elections, and perhaps more than razumkov, who, by the way, five years ago was just... engaged in political technology, his main political technology was precisely the servant of the people, against whom he now so actively opposes, mr. maksym, no, i was not approached, and in

my circle of communication i did not hear about the formation of headquarters, contracting specialists and anything like that, but in the media environment i have already heard about the appearance of proposals for political advertising, that is, this... can be considered indirect such a sign, in general, of course, we can argue on the theory, on the facts and so on, but i would pay attention to such indirect indications that can tell us the probability or improbability, the fact is that when people pay money, ee with some, invest in some risky. projects, then they are probably figuring out the future fate of their investments, their investments, for example, the fact that

the hotel ukraine in the center of kyiv was recently privatized, the fact that politicians are starting to invest money in their promotion, i think this indicates that they have some information that we, as experts who are independent and... so to speak, equally distant from political headquarters, may not have, so i immediately warn that i am based on open data, open data, thank you, mr. maxim, sir oleg, well, let's approach it just a little from the other side, and look at this situation, but through experience. which we already have, the announcement a number of times that elections will be held, that's 100%. and if this time there is still no evidence that the headquarters are really

being deployed, there are only certain rumors, then last year there was already a situation when even the headquarters were indeed deployed by party, the lists were checked, when the elections were already being prepared, and it was difficult not to notice on the market of political services already... came out with orders and carrying out renovations, let's say, electoral maps and many other moments, that is, the preparation for the elections was real, and in the end it ended with a chip, no elections took place, and before the 24th, in the winter, president zelensky came out and said, what are you talking about, what elections, who talks about elections, he is irresponsible, and further down the list, and everything has stalled, why is this happening, first of all, from the point of view of the authorities. you have a political force, a servant of the people, which does not really have either an ideological or party

branched system. which would be cemented by anything other than ratings of the authorities and focus on one last name, zelenskyi personally. you need to somehow rally this team, from time to time warm up the engine of the car called the servant of the people, which is standing in the garage, so that it does not run away, so that it does not run away, so that it does not start looking for other marriages under other brands for the upcoming election cycle, this is quite a smart decision to restrain... and to charge, to unite your team, in which others have some ideological, i repeat, programmatic or other there is no second, you are the opposition forces that want to change the government, and you understand that you have no other mechanisms except elections to come to power, you will be interested in the elections taking place, of course, whether your sponsors of political forces, your members

party members, interested in... for elections to take place, of course, because otherwise what is the point of them being your political force, so as soon as there are reasons that elections are possible, will you launch such a plan, will you activate your party network with so that suddenly there will be elections, of course there will be, because in the first case both the government and the opposition, the process itself is beneficial for you regardless of whether there will be elections or not, three points, or you as party workers, for example, political technologists, staffers, apparatchiks, interested in making everyone think that there will be an election, of course, because then the money comes in to update these lists, to develop activities at the local level, to update your capabilities, to identify , where you can advertise, who will do it, layout, everything else, that is, it is an opportunity to master certain budgets, will you start at any signal

that we will choose ... happen, of course, because you are interested in it, this is how self-fulfilling nature works, as soon as there is information that elections may be held, a whole series of subjects who are closely interested in this begin to act as if elections will take place, and then others look and say, there is information that elections may be held, there are steps of a whole series of sub 'objects that usually move when elections are taking place, and maybe they will really take place, so now all this information is from the inside, it is not new. that the elections will definitely take place, we look at the military situation, we look at the security situation, we look at the geopolitical situation, and we understand that there is no real window now for holding elections, all this foreign policy activation is primarily connected with the elections in the united states and the uncertainty with the potential the arrival of trump, which, of course, creates a tribune and creates a position on the table in the form of whether or not the war will end, and whether there will be a freeze, or whether there will be some

negotiations and... events, accordingly, the issue of elections will arise, then maybe it is necessary to prepare for it, so for now it is rather air trade for now, and a reaction to external political uncertainty inside of the united states and around the united states in the context of the russian-ukrainian war, than really some kind of strategic calculation inside and really the preparation of elections already as a key, main scenario. thank you, mr. oleg, but it is clear that... if such rumors are going around, then it is logical, perhaps, to give an answer to the main question: and for whom such elections are necessary in the 25th year, who, who in general is counting, well, in the presidential elections so precisely, who claims to become the head of the ukrainian state, the verkhovna rada is obvious , obviously , this political breakdown will become clear a little later, although

sociology is closed. there is, i heard about it about political parties, about the hypothetical political projects of both zaluzhny and the hypothetical political project of budanov, and there are even sociological data about whether whether they will get to the verkhovna rada or not, i will not spoil and i will not make these closed data open, but the very fact that such data exists, and what concerns the presidential elections, mr. maksym, is it important for president zelensky to do next year and whether the president will lose his popularity or gain popularity, is it important for him to go through this window of opportunity and take the second step to the presidency after 2019, it is so important now for...