after the 2001 census, according to the estimates of various experts, we lost 2-3 million people, something did not suit them in the country, or they could not find a job, or the situation itself was such that they were not satisfied, or they had some dreams, they thought that they would settle down, this should also be clarified, it should be possible for such a discourse on this topic and certain scientific sociologists'. research, what is wrong in the country, what do we need to change? mr. oleksandr, thank you very much. well, actually, we started the conversation, i think we are still there we will return many times. oleksandr gladuna, deputy director of the institute of demography, was in touch with us. for literally 30 seconds, i will tell, you know, my story, i was in poland talking to ukrainian high school students who are currently there, and we were talking with one guy, he says: why do you want to stay and study in poland, then go to germany, he says: i want to be an astrophysicist, in ukraine i will not earn money with this profession, what can i do. some nonsense, topics,

i don't want to go anywhere, i say, i want to be an astrophysicist, so i will stay in europe and will an astrophysicist, ukraine should provide opportunities for science, education, culture, well, this conversation should be simple, if we are now raising the tax on the poor, and we are not raising the tax on luxury, because we say, well, the authorities say, well, yes it won't do anything, but of course it won't do anything, because all the luxury has left us, taken offshore, it doesn't have this luxury, well, the only thing is that we buy more premium cars than before. so there is no luxury, that's why you have to start with honesty, but when there is honesty, then you can speak honestly to people, and when you have to hide a schoolgirl, then you can probably not start this conversation either about returning or about other things, yes, well, about what is worth talking about, without lowering your eyes, about the news, literally in a moment, good evening, we are from ukraine, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi commented for the first time. tion in

ugledar, according to him, the withdrawal of the armed forces of ukraine from the city was the right step in order to preserve the lives of ukrainian soldiers, he stated this at a press conference with nato secretary general marco rutte, who arrived in kyiv. and the head of state also added that ukraine needs more western aid to deter the russian federation's offensive. units of the defense forces stopped the active offensive of russian troops near pokrovsk, donetsk region. this was reported by the manager. andriy kovalenko of the center for combating disinformation. the enemy's attempt to break through to lyubimivka in kurshchyna was also stopped - added kovalenko. according to the general staff , 142 combat clashes took place on the front line last day. most in the pokrovsky and kurakhiv directions. now the enemy rushes there and there concentrates its striking efforts after the actual capture of the coal miner. further south,

kurakhove, pokrovsk, further north, the enemy will now go there, and as i read the ukrainian military in the telegram, they say that the battles are tough, but the enemy must eventually be stopped somewhere, we must eventually stop somewhere, we must understand that the enemy has accumulated huge forces for this offensive in donbas and the fact that we are not holding back everything, but we have to understand that there are also huge enemy forces on the other side, although i am not downplaying any miscalculations, miscalculations on the part of the authorities, the command, everything all this in... a heap, but the fact that the enemy has been collecting this fist for a long time, here too, as they say, it should not be written off that we are at war with a huge state, with huge opportunities, this is also true. allies will discuss ukraine's permission for long-range strikes on the territory of the russian federation, deep into the territory of the russian federation. it will take place in germany next week on october 12, under the chairmanship of the president of the united states joe biden's america. it is important that he takes. participation, said

nato secretary general mark rutte. however, he emphasized that each country of the alliance, which supplies kyiv with long-range weapons, independently decides on restrictions on strikes. he noted that the nato secretary general is visiting the capital of ukraine. ukraine obviously has the right to defend itself. and international law is on the side of ukraine. this right is not limited by borders. russia is waging this illegal war, and this. that shooting down russian fighter jets and missiles before they can be used against ukrainian civilians infrastructure can help. at the same time , each member of the alliance has the right to support ukraine. the issue of restrictions does not depend on nato. it depends on each country of the alliance what restrictions it wants to impose or not. it depends on whether they want to stop russia or, by the way, olaf scholz will also be at romstein's meeting.

the head of the host country, and the president of france, emmanuel macron, i don't know what about starmer, the prime minister of britain, well, but i think that everyone, well, if there is biden, then there will probably be starmer, that is, this will be an important meeting, a very important one... hot and restless night in russia, ukrainian drones of the sbu, special operations forces and other military formations hit the borys hlebsk military airfield in the voronezh region of russia. this is reported by the media with reference to sources. this airfield houses warehouses with guided aerial bombs, su-35 and su-34 aircraft , and aviation fuel. satellites recorded four centers of fires there, in fact, you see them on your screens. it is from this airfield that the russians speak ukrainian territories of official povodos. there is no information about the operation yet. preparation of every ukrainian for the opera to the occupiers, a forum of national resistance was organized in kyiv. the event was attended by military personnel, instructors and officials

from almost all over the country. the organizers emphasize that the state should provide the entire population with the opportunity to learn basic combat skills, this... in addition to training for military service, the main organizers were the officers of the third assault brigade, their specialists conduct training in several regions of ukraine, in particular in kyiv. according to them, every 10th civilian who is trained in national resistance volunteers for the war after training. as for the percentage of our classes that later go to the army, it is about 10%. we get 50 to 50 or even more girls, and the girls, including them, very often go, want to serve, they are not always accepted, but they really want to, and even the audience is really more motivated, we actually almost all this time

in one way or another, but participated in the training of the civilian population in various regions, on luckily we met there understanding in some areas where already created. for example, utility companies that deal with this systematically, and today our task and our main interest is to develop this on a nationwide scale. this initiative only needs to be supported comprehensively, to develop national resistance. in lviv, the book "this is a war" was presented at the lviv book forum by ukrainian writers about how to survive a catastrophe, published by krytyk. 12 authors worked on it at once, two of whom are currently defending ours. ukraine at the front. the presentation was attended by four journalists and writers, oksana frostyna, vitaly portnikov, andriy pavlyshyn and nataliya fedushchak. photographer anna ilchenko supplemented the texts with her photos from the de-occupied territories. this text is about war,

about the experience of war, about how we came to this war. this is an attempt to rethink previous experiences, to think about how to get out of the situation. and although this article was printed. back in 2023, that is, it was written in the first month of the actual war, it remains relevant today, it will be forever relevant until this horror ends, and just, if you will see, in this text, i am talking about what should be the ways out of this horror, and now i am glad that more and more people in the west are joining this point vision, which in 2022 seemed marginal, but now it is becoming more and more realistic, i always believe that common sense will win, i think that we need a very re'. appreciate how we protect human life, i understand that this may sound absurd in our situation, when we practically every night we hear explosions, but there are things that can be done, and

i think we should be very protective of each other. i absolutely agree with vitaly and with ms. forostyna, in theirs. statements almost 700 residents of pokrovsky district of donetsk region came to kirovohrad region in september. the region received five evacuation trains. mostly elderly people found shelter here. how the settlers settled in the modular town, which was built at the expense of the czech republic. our journalists will tell in detail. the town of znamyanka is 40 km from the regional center. last summer, the first modular town for immigrants in the region was built here. the house was empty for more than a year. due to power outages, people were not accommodated, because the heating is electric. today, the first residents from donetsk region appeared here. ms. irma from pokrovsk says that when she and her mother were leaving, the situation was extremely difficult. it's very, very bad, there every day, and

i had the impression that under the window they were shooting from machine guns, bombing, bombing heavily, all the houses were shaking and in general. learned idps arrived on the fifth evacuation train from pokrovsk, it was the last one he was met by kirovohradshchyna. the train arrived at night, 2 o'clock in the morning, you understand what happened. mental, psychological was very difficult for people, especially since the main mass is people 60+, people with disabilities, we have 10 people with disabilities here, people are in a state of stress, thanks to the cooperation with the red cross, that we had psychologists worked with them, kateryna and her son came from myrnograd, they didn't want to leave for a long time, until she flew to a neighboring house, opposite our house, three entrances were completely hit, two people died, well... you can even see shops began to close, pharmacies, banks stopped working, and what

to stay there, there is nowhere to turn, nothing anywhere, it’s such a thing, you know, it’s scary, oleksandr worked until the end at the shakhta motor transport company, he says that as soon as he gets away from the stress, he will look for a job in znamenians, the authorities have already taken all the family vehicles, there are only five people left, here i am... i worked hard and four drivers for 4 hours, but the curfew ends, it starts at 3:15:00 and until 11 days, or the next day. for residents of collective housing organized three meals a day. after receiving the first payments, they will eat at their own expense. people live in double rooms, there is a bathroom and a shared kitchen. all the necessary furniture, appliances, bedding and dishes. we found a generator, as it were, we rented it from the hospital, because we bought it for them and

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velikiy lviv is speaking, a platform where everyone gets to speak and everyone is heard. on the air of the tv channel. stop. verdict with serhiy rudenko, from now on in a new, two-hour format. even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests: foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and feedback. you can express your opinion on the bad day with a phone survey. turn on and turn on. verdict with serhii rudenko, from tuesday to friday, from 20 to 22. well, we are coming back, this is a big ater, i remind you, i remind you that my name is vasyl zemai, now is the time to talk about events outside ukraine, yuriy fizar is already with us, the world is about ukraine, yury, good evening, please, good evening to you vasyl, good evening to everyone who joined us at this time, today about this, in the united states of america they have already seen

zelensky's victory plan, the nato secretary general promises to continue supporting ukraine, and on ... russia was burning, burning, about this and that in a moment. well, today i will start with this, from sociology: a record number of russians advocated the end of the war with ukraine. this is evidenced by the data of a sociological survey conducted by the chronicle projects and extreme scan for the second anniversary of the mobilization announcement. according to their data, about half. of russians, to be more precise, 49% are ready for a truce with ukraine and would support such a decision, and more than 63% of those surveyed would like to make peace within a year, and only 33% of those surveyed were in favor of continuing the war in any case of the regions, the lowest support for the so-called svo was recorded in chechnya, only 39% of respondents declared their

support for the so-called special operation. the republic is in second place. tiwa only has 46% support. the strongest support for the war is in the regions that are located closer to the combat zone in the belgorod region and the krasnodar region. the level of support in these regions is as much as 63 and 62%. accordingly, the same regions have the lowest rates of evasion from direct answers to questions. well, on the one hand, we can say interesting results, whether they are interesting and what they can testify to. vasyl and i will talk about this with oleksandr shuliuga, director of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, doctor of sociological sciences, he has already joined us. sir oleksandr, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. congratulations hero, glory. mr. oleksandr, look, the first question, in order for me to understand what and how to correct the question to you, here it is. how seriously can

such sociological research be taken in russia. even if they were carried out by, well, independent companies, well, i know extreme scan researchers, they basically operate from abroad, they are not located in russia, this is already good, because when you seriously try to perceive or present the results of companies, which operate inside russia, the same in tsuu. in tsiom and fom , others also understood everything with them, that they, well, they are frankly pro-kanliv, but when they call the levada center, that, well, their results should be perceived, well, as such, very respectable, despite the fact that they remain in russia, operate in russia , operate in russia, well, it’s really a matter of caution, it’s this center that they operate at least outside of russia, i

can’t, you know, tear my shirt off for them, that they definitely... their results are one hundred percent and so on, i haven’t seen , i did not participate in the data array, but in in principle, in principle, the results they showed are quite, well, believable and show trends that were also shown by our research, which we also conduct, by the way, our survey method is quite similar to theirs, in principle, it is the only method that can now to use, not being in russia, trying to give some true result, is a telephone survey. and well, because another survey is impossible, since you have to either physically be there, or use the internet survey, it does not cover the entire population of russia, so with from a formal point of view... and from a plausibility point of view, these numbers are noteworthy, then you, as an expert, can you say that according to these polls,

according to these results, we can at least assume that there is some kind of shift happening in russia ? well, in fact, here in this case, this movement is constantly happening, we cannot say that something happened very quickly, but in fact these... trends, they are very stretched, unfortunately in time, we would like with you that all this was it is much faster that these percentages are directly dematerialized the opposites have become right here and now, supporting not supporting the war, supporting not supporting the kremlin, and so on, in general, our studies, which we conducted from the end of the 22nd until the beginning of this year, well, we are planning the next study at the end of autumn, in in principle, our monitoring also showed this... suff, so if you look really over the course of two years, there are indeed changes, but we would like it to be much faster, because the price is very high, and in general,

well, what we can do it, or we can't you, and ukraine in general, and what zelensky is doing right there, our diplomacy, is to make the russians feel, or push them to feel, that this war is not... right, that it leads to discomfort, we do not we can, unfortunately, appeal to a value, moral point of view, but we can appeal to the fact that this leads to, it specifically affects the direct life of russians, that is, why is it ukraine, why is it that zelensky is the first to use this long-range weapon, this is not only about the military component, it is about the expansion of the number of russians who see their own way windows in... explosions, you saw these new shots in kurchatov, where you can see what is exploding from the window, there are such chickens, such borisov glebsky and

so on and so on, they should be daily, in ukraine no one needs to be convinced, that war is bad, but we have different positions, russia can stop and go to its territories, we have nowhere to go, that's all that you and i have been talking about all these months, talking about long-range weapons. oleksandr, but look, i want to ask right away, you said about the chicken, it is relatively far away from the border with ukraine, but according to this survey, that is the belgorod region there, i think that the same is possible in kursk, they advocate exactly, especially the rostov region, the krasnodar region, they advocate more very strongly for the continuation of the so- called svo , and how can this be explained then? well , i would take krasnodar separately, krasnodar is one of the leaders of the mobilization, krasnodar is a minority. measures, but also the rostov region, but krasnodar in general, he is the leader, they are economically interested in the continuation of this war, well that's why that, excuse me, the kind of money that pays for

participation in the war, they have never seen, accordingly, there is a huge number of families simply on this, well, it lives in such a military economy, a mercenary economy, so there is a little different in, well, let's say so, motives . for example, the belgorod region is, well, here you know, my hypothesis is that the situation is completely different in the belgorod region, they are actually a belligerent region, they have been feeling the kinetic effects of the war for several years now, and they cannot respond to their residents - to another discourse the other you, if you see it, pay attention, there is the smallest number of those who did not give an answer, who somehow evaded it, such a discourse was formed there, you cannot

answer otherwise, well, plus also the number of people who are mobilized there, she is also very large, including the so-called territorial defenses there, well, and the last question, and here is chechnya, the phenomenon of chechnya, it seemed to me that kadyrovka... gives maximum effort, money, resources in order to convince the inhabitants of this region, that the so- called svo is our everything, nevertheless, very much little, in fact, it has been a long time, there is such a great tension between the russians, actually war bloggers there, generally nationalist russians, well russians, in fact fascists, and chechnya. since in fact the chechens do not want to turn into minced meat and they are in the second and third lines, this has been known for a long time and for a long time there were a large

number of cases when... there was literally shooting between them, and most importantly, if the chechens look at the destroyed cities, then unlike russians, in general the majority of russia, they perfectly remember what they have as well as several, well, 10-15 years ago it was the same, and the same army did the same to them as is being done in ukraine now, so the chechens have a completely different sentiment than the russians in the general territory of russia, and it is understandable. thank you very much, mr. oleksandr for participating in the program, this is oleksandr shulga, director of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, doctor of sociological sciences, who explained why, according to the polls, which he said can be trusted, more and more russians are against the so-called putin's svo, well, he explained and it's good what he says, and let's continue, the administration of the president of the united states of america, joe biden, saw volodymyr zelensky's victory plan and goto.

to join it, state department spokesman matthew miller said during a briefing. according to him , american officials have considered this plan and, further, a very short quote from mr. miller. we saw a number of productive steps in it. a representative of the us state department also emphasized that he would not reveal the details of the plan, since it should be done by the ukrainians themselves, but at the same time he emphasized that it is not only a question of what ukraine should do in order to finish. war, according to matthew miller, the plan proposed steps that could be taken by the leaders of many other countries around the world. and a landmark visit today to ukraine, with the first visit to the post of secretary general of nato, mark krutt arrived, who literally only took the main chair in the north atlantic

alliance on the first of october, and in kyiv he already... promised to support ukraine to the victorious end, but he also promised it tonight to us secretary of state antony blinken , the new nato secretary general wrote about it on his page in the twitter microblogging network. in addition, the head of the north atlantic alliance also said that he will make every effort to improve the cost-sharing of nato member countries in support of ukraine, but - he assured anthony blinken that he will do everything to... support the alliance as well strong and fighting, and this is very good, it cannot but please. well, on conclusion, people say that even a stone will crack from fire, but real life proves that it not only cracks, but can also burn out completely. in the khabarovsk region of russia, which is still the far east of russia, a musical theater burned to the ground. according to the information of the regional

minister. in an emergency , the cladding and roof of the building caught fire, the area of ​​the fire was more than 400 m2. it is interesting that the roof began to be repaired in the fall, there are no victims, but the russian investigation committee has already found the trace, or rather the russian committee has already found the trace, the culprits have already been detained, and this should be the drumbeat here, the migrants who repaired this roof have already opened a case against them under the article about non-compliance with the requirements without... security, but they are still conducting an inspection under the article about the organization of illegal migration, well have a lot of problems in themselves, there to see what they did wrong, repaired, there to see what they did wrong, no, they go to other countries in order to teach us something, what we should do, demand it from us and kill us for that we don't want to do what they do they say well, for today i have everything in the world about ukraine column, everything only for

today, because tomorrow will be. there will be more and more in our future broadcast, so do not switch, i am very brief with the good news, this is our colleague, we even worked at one of the tv channels, ivan lyubish kerdei, he was, well, now he is an operator of the reuters agency, he was wounded in kramatorsk, was in koma for a long time, and his wife maria semenchenko writes that ivan came out of a coma, and the first words he said were about... dedicated to what should be done with russians, i am actually very happy, because many people were worried, worried about our colleague, who, by the way , escaped from ilovaisk at one time and was on the maidan, well, may he be alive and recover quickly, so this is very pleasant news, but about that , which we will talk about in the verdict program, which starts at 20:00, we will now ask serhiy rudenko, serhiy, good evening, please, good evening, vasyl.