and they partially operate programs with what the ministry of health is doing, and the main thing is that all these measures and others that will be proposed, they take into account not only there were general phrases, directions, so that they go down to the regional and, most importantly, to the territorial level, at the level of a territorial community, because each community has its own situation regarding migration policy. this is a very difficult issue. we don't know how many people will return. plans to attract, well, the ukrainian diaspora, that it will return, well i don't really believe that. current labor market needs may require additional labor. but in my opinion, at the first stages it is advisable and should be done, if we are going to attract foreigners, it is simply under a contract for... the performance of certain works, so this is

a plus, you know, i mean, first of all, the duration of the war, i'm just saying some things now, well, this is an objective reality, there is no question of ideology, propaganda or betrayal, no, there are just objective things, a person has oncology, it is necessary, let's say, to do chemotherapy, it's just a fact, you can tell some fairy tales, douse yourself with cold water there, jump from the 15th floor without a parachute. well, but there are things that must be done, a person does not have a leg, he needs crutches, well, it is the same here, we talked recently with colleagues abroad, children, ukrainians at school, from a class of 17 children who are there, return to ukraine wants three children, and this is just an objective reality, this is a senior class, this is an objective reality, again, i have a different story, a guy has been abroad for 20 years, a ukrainian works, this is a normal job of some kind there, a manager of decomposition products. in some store, he can do

with the fact that he is not living at all right now, well, there with the money of the state, he buys something for himself there, he saves 200 € for himself in 20 years, the question is what is the motivation, well, besides that, there , that patriotism and the desire to be in ukraine, financially some other way to return to ukraine now for him, well, pay him so much, yes, that's why i say that there are objective things, and the longer the war lasts, the more people integrate abroad, the youth integrates even faster, the second question is that of the countries of the european union, which in principle... too the older one is, and this is an objective reality, even before the war, the european union wanted to do migration e projects for themselves, especially great britain, now they have received a large number of educated, hardworking people, especially since your ideology and approximately the christian religion, as well as well, most of the european ones, so why let them go, here's how to overcome it, it will be very difficult to overcome, and i'm not sure what it is at all, well, if you take a certain scale, they led. in the full scale that

it can be overcome, now according to the estimates of the high commissioner for affairs refugees, there are approximately more than six million people abroad, if half of them return, well, in my opinion, this will be a good result, because you are absolutely right, the states where our forced migrants are now are conducting an active policy of adapting them. people, learning the language is mandatory in almost all countries, and now they encourage even our citizens to get a job and earn money themselves, and when the war ends, people will compare the conditions they will have after the return of ukraine to ukraine, and the conditions in which they are now abroad, and then they will accept concretely. but i will only add here that there is

a government strategy, and there is also a draft law that is being developed, in particular, by people's deputy of ukraine mykola knyazhytskyi. this draft law provides not only general wishes and statements of fact, which we know, even certain mechanisms of financial of financial stimulation and other important mechanisms that should spin like these wheels and give a certain result, well, there is hope that at least this... bill will be submitted to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, again, if all resources are used, is it possible and should there be, again, probably an ideological component, but it is still necessary to call for patriotism, i understand that now it is possible that patriotism is devalued somewhere, but today many young and not so young men and women give their lives for this state to exist, well, surely there is also some duty to come to this state, at least to rebuild it, to give it life, you understand that thousands of people laid down their lives for it , well...

yes, you are right that moral, psychological instruction, patriotism are the components that should be present and attract a person to ukraine, but it should be said that... for 30 years of independence , we did not deal with this properly, and now we have the result, when many people, even illegally, men go abroad and run away from here, you see, that is why we generally need some kind of national, national conversation, national discourse, what is wrong with our country, why even before the war people left for us abroad and on permanent place accommodation, it was so-called. a new migration, which then turned into a permanent migration. after the 2001 census, according to the estimates of various experts, we lost 2-3 million people. something did not suit them in the country, whether they could not find a job, whether the situation itself was

such that they were not satisfied, whether they had some dreams, they thought that it would be alright, this should also be clarified, this.. ... it should be possible to have such a discourse on this topic and certain scientific sociological studies, what is wrong in the country, what should we change? sir oleksandr, thank you very much, well, we actually started the conversation, i think we will return to it many times. oleksandr gladuna, the deputy director of the institute of demography, was in touch with us, i will literally tell you, you know, my story for 30 seconds, i was in poland talking to ukrainian high school students who are currently there, and we talked with one guy, he says: " why do you want to stay and study in poland, then go to germany, he says..." i want to be an astrophysicist, in ukraine i will not earn money with this profession, to do some puzzles, topics, i don’t want to go anywhere, i say, i want to be an astrophysicist, so i will stay in europe and be an astrophysicist, ukraine should provide opportunities for science, education, culture, well, this conversation should be, if we are now raising

taxes on the poor, and , and we don't raise the tax on luxury because we say, well, the authorities say, well, it won't do anything, but of course it won't do anything, because all the luxury has left us, taken offshore, it... there is no such thing luxuries, well, the only thing here is that we buy premium cars more than before a full-scale invasion, there is no luxury, so it must start with honesty, when there is honesty, then you can speak honestly to people, and when you have to hide your eyes, then you can probably not start this conversation, neither about returning, nor about other things, there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. we counter russian information attacks in the chronicles of information war project with olga ley. tuesday-thursday at 17:15,

repeat, tuesday-friday at 22:00. great return of great lviv. conversations, discussions, search for solutions. the largest talk format in ukraine in the evening prime time. in general , i believe that we need two things: money and weapons. we did not start this war, but we must finish it and we must win. the most important thing - every thursday at 9:15 p.m. , velikiy lviv speaks in the project, on the espresso tv channel. good evening, we are from ukraine. the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy commented for the first time on the situation at the coal mine. for him words, the withdrawal of the armed forces of ukraine from the city was the right step in order to save the lives of the ukrainian military. he stated this at a press conference with nato secretary general marko

rutte, who arrived in kyiv. and the head of state also added that ukraine needs more western aid to deter the russian federation's offensive. the units of the defense forces stopped the active offensive of the russian troops near pokrovsk in the donetsk region, the head of the counter -disinformation center andriy kovalenko said. the enemy's attempt to break through to lovers in kurshchyna - added kovalenko. according to the general staff , 142 combat clashes took place on the front line last day. most in the pokrovsky and kurakhiv directions. now the enemy rushes there and concentrates its shock efforts there after. the practical capture of ugledar, well, ugledar is further south, kurakhove, pokrovsk, further north, the enemy will now go there, and as i read the ukrainian military in the telegram, they say that the battles are tough, but the enemy must be stopped somewhere in the end, we must

be stopped somewhere in the end, we we must understand that the enemy has accumulated huge forces for this offensive in donbass and the fact that we cannot contain everything like this, but we have to understand that also on the other side, huge... er enemy forces, although i do not minimize here some miscalculations, miscalculations on the part power, command, all of this in a heap, but the fact that the enemy has been gathering this fist for a long time, here too, as they say, should not be written off. considering that we are at war with a huge state with huge capabilities, this is also true. allies will discuss ukraine's permission for long-range strikes on the territory of the russian federation, deep into the territory of the russian federation, i will specify, at the next meeting of ramshtan, which should be a key one, because there will be a lot of important representatives there. it will take place in germany next week on october 12 under the chairmanship of the president of the united states of america, joe biden. it is important that he participates. nato secretary general mark irute said this. however, he emphasized that each country of the alliance, which supplies kyiv with long-range weapons, independently decides on restrictions on strikes.

the secretary general of nato noted that he is visiting the capital of ukraine. ukraine obviously has the right to defend itself. and international law is on the side of ukraine. this right is not limited by borders. russia is waging this illegal war, and that means shooting down russian fighter jets and missiles before they can be used. on ukrainian civil infrastructure can help. at the same time, each member of the alliance has the right to support ukraine. the issue of restrictions does not depend on nato. it depends on each country of the alliance what restrictions it wants to impose or not. it depends on whether they want to stop russia or. well, by the way, olaf scholcek, the head of the host country, will also be at this ramstein meeting. and french president emmanuel macron. i don't know what friends. the prime minister of britain, well, but i think that everyone, well, if there is biden, then starmer will certainly be there, that is, this

will be an important meeting, very important, and a hot and restless night in russia, ukrainian sbu drones, special operations forces and others military formations hit the borys glebska military airfield in the voronezh region of russia. this is reported by the media with reference to sources at this airport there are warehouses with guided aerial bombs, su-35 and su-34 aircraft and aviation fuel. satellites recorded. there are four foci of fires, in fact you see them on your screens, it is from this airfield that the russians are firing bombs on ukrainian territory , there are no official reports about the operation yet. preparation of every ukrainian for the opera to the occupiers, a forum of national resistance was organized in kyiv. the event was attended by military personnel, instructors and officials from almost all over the country. the organizers emphasize that the state must provide everything population with the opportunity to learn basic

combat skills, this is beyond training for military service. the main organizers were the officers of the third assault brigade, their specialists conduct training in several regions of ukraine, in particular in kyiv. according to them, every 10th civilian who is trained in national resistance volunteers for the war after training. as for... the percentage of our classes that later go to the army, it is somewhere around 10%, we have 50 for 50 or even more girls, and girls are included very often they go, they want to serve, they don’t always get them, but they really want to, and even the audience is really more motivated, in fact, we have actually been involved almost all this time in one way or another in... the training of the civilian population in different regions, fortunately we met there understanding in some areas where

, for example, utility companies have already been created, which deal with this systematically, and today our such task and our main interest is to develop it on the scale of the entire country. well, this initiative just needs to be supported comprehensively, developed regarding the national resistance, in lviv, at the lviv book forum, they presented the book "this is a war" ukrainian... writers on how to survive a catastrophe, krytyk publishing house. 12 authors worked on it at once, two of whom are currently defending our country at the front. there were four journalists and writers at the presentation: oksana frostyna, vitaly portnikov, andriy pavlyshyn and natalia fedushchak. photographer anna ilchenko supplemented the texts with her photos from the de-occupied territories. this text is about war, about experience war, about how we came to this war. this is an attempt to rethink the previous experience and think how to get out of the situation, and although this article was printed back in 2023, that is,

it was written in the first month of the actual war, it remains relevant today, it will always be relevant until this horror is over, and just, if you will see, in this text, i am talking about what should be the ways out of this horror, and now i am glad that more and more people in the west are joining this point of view, which in in 2022. seemed marginal, but now it is becoming more and more realistic, i always believe that common sense will win. i think we need to really reevaluate how we protect. human life, i understand that it may sound absurd in our situation where we hear explosions practically every night, but there are things that can be done, and i think we should be very protective of each other. i absolutely agree with both vitaly and ms.

forostyna in their statements. almost 700 residents of the pokrovsky district of donetsk region. went to kirovohrad region in the september region met five evacuation trains, mostly elderly people found shelter here, how the displaced settled in the modular town, which were transported at the expense of the czech republic, our journalists will tell in detail, the town of znamyanka is 40 km from the regional center, last summer the first modular town in the region was built here a town for immigrants, the housing was empty for more than a year, due to power outages, people did not move in, because the heating... today, the first residents from donetsk region have appeared here. mrs. irma from pokrovsk. he says that when he and his mother were leaving, the situation was extreme difficult it's very, very bad, there every day, and i had the impression that under the window they were shooting from machine guns, bombing, bombing heavily, all the houses were shaking, and in general.

idps arrived in znamyanka on the fifth evacuation train from pokrovsk. became the last to be met by kirovohradshchyna. the train arrived at night, at 2 o'clock in the morning, you understand that the mental and psychological condition of people was very difficult, especially since the main mass is people 60+, people with disabilities, we have 10 people with disabilities here, people in under stress thanking, well, cooperation with the red cross, that we had psychologists who worked with them, kateryna and her son came from myrnograd, they didn't want to leave for a long time, until they arrived.

the superiors have already transported all the families, the only ones left are five men, here i worked stationary, and four drivers, for 4 hours, here the curfew ends, here, it begins at 3:15:00 and until 11 in the afternoon, well, the next day. three meals a day were organized for residents of collective housing, after receiving the first payments they will eat at their own expense, people live. double rooms have a bathroom and a shared kitchen, all the necessary furniture, appliances, bedding and dishes. we found a generator, if so, we rented it from the hospital, because we bought it for them and put it there, the hospital will not suffer from this, at the moment we have seven places for compact accommodation, and they are already

full. people live here for free, now we have people we have accepted, they are fed. free of charge, we have such conditions, and in the future these people will live for free, the term of residence with us has not yet been determined, well, we hope that the war will end and they can return home as soon as possible. in total , more than 3,500 immigrants, mainly from donetsk region, live in the znamyan community. almost four dozen people found shelter in the modular town in znamyanka. from kirovohrad region for the tv channel.

well, we're coming back, it's a big one, i remind you, i remind you that my name is vasyl zamaj, now it's time to talk about events outside of ukraine, yuriy phys. already with us, the world about ukraine, yury, good evening, please, good evening to you, vasyl, good evening to everyone, who joined us at this time, today about this, in the united states of america they have already seen zelensky's victory plan,

the secretary general of nato promises to continue supporting ukraine, well, it was burning, burning in russia, about this and other things in a moment, well, i'll start today from such, from sociology, a record. the number of russians supported the end of the war with ukraine, this is evidenced by the data of a sociological survey conducted by the chronicle and extreme scan projects before the second anniversary of the announcement of mobilization, according to their data, about half of russians, to be more precise, 49%, are ready for a truce with ukraine and would support such a decision, and more than 63% of those polled would like to make peace within a year, and only 33% said so. for the continuation of the war in any case, among the studied regions the lowest support for the so-called svo was recorded in chechnya, only 39% of respondents declared their

support for the so-called special operation, the republic of tiwa came in second place with only 46% support. the war is most strongly supported in the regions that are located closer to the combat zone belgorod region and krasnodar region. the level of support in these regions is up to 63 and 62%. accordingly, the same regions have the lowest rates of evasion from direct answers to questions. well, on the other hand, we can say interesting results, are they interesting and what can they testify to? vasyl and i will talk about this with oleksandr shuliuga, director of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, doctor of sociological sciences, he has already joined us. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. i congratulate herslav, mr. oleksandr, look, first questions, in order for me to understand what, how to correct the questions to you later, this is how seriously you can take such

sociological studies in russia, even if they were carried out, well, let's be independent companies, well, i know, researchers of extreme scan , they, in principle, operate. from abroad, they are not in russia, it is already good, because when they seriously try to perceive or present the results of companies operating inside russia, the same in tsiom and fom with them understood everything and others that they are, well, they are openly pro-kanliv, but when they call levada center, that their results should be perceived as very respectable, despite the fact that they remain in russia and operate. the russians are operating in russia, well, it’s really a matter of caution, this is the center they operate at least outside of russia, and i can’t, you know,

tear my shirt off for them, that they are sure that their results are one hundred percent and so on, i didn’t see it, i didn't do the data set, i didn't participate, but in principle, in principle, the results they showed were pretty good believable show the trends that were also shown by our research, which we also conduct, by the way, our survey method is quite similar to theirs, in principle, it is the only method that can be used now, without being in russia, trying to give some true result, this a telephone survey, and well, because another survey is impossible, since you have to either physically be there, or use an internet survey, it does not cover the entire population of russia, therefore, from a formal point of view and... from the point of view of plausibility, these numbers, well are noteworthy, then you, as an expert, can you say that according to these polls, according to these results,

we can at least assume that in russia, well, there is some kind of shift, well, actually here in this this shift is happening all the time, we we cannot say that something happened very quickly, but in fact these trends are... unfortunately very stretched in time, we would like it all to happen much faster, so that these percentages, they become directly diametrically opposed right here and now, support not support war, support not support of the kremlin and so on, in general, our studies, which we conducted from the end of the 22nd until the beginning of this year, well, we are planning the next study at the end of autumn, in principle, our monitoring also showed this slow progress. so if you really look at it over the course of two years, there are indeed changes, but we would like it to be much faster, because the price is very high, and in general

, well... what can we do, or not you and me , and ukraine in general, and what zelensky is doing right there, our diplomacy, that to make the russians feel, or to make them feel, that this war is wrong, that it leads to discomfort, we cannot, unfortunately, appeal to a moral value point of view, but we can appeal to what it leads to, that specifically... it affects the immediate life of russians, father, why is it ukraine, why is it that zelenskyi is using this long-range weapon for the first time, it’s not only about the military component, it’s about increasing the number of russians who can see explosions from their windows, but in kurchatov you saw these new shots, where you can see from the window that explodes, here are such chickens, such borisov glebsky and so on and so on, they should

be daily. in ukraine, no one needs to be convinced that war is bad, but we have different positions, russia can stop and go to its territories, we don't have to go anywhere, that's all we talk about, in fact, all these months, talking about long-range weapons , mr. oleksandr, but look, i want to ask right away, you said about the chicken, it is relatively close to the border with ukraine, but according to this survey, that is the belgorod region there, i think that in the same may be the case with kursk, they speak just... especially rostov region, krasnodar region, they speak more strongly for the continuation of the so-called svo, and how can this be explained then? well, krasnodar, i would take it separately, krasnodar is one of the leaders of the mobilization, krasnodar to a lesser extent, but also the rostov region, but krasnodar in general is the leader, they are economically interested in the continuation of this war, well, because , excuse me, this is the money they pay for. ..

they have never seen participation in the war and accordingly there is a huge number of well families it's just that, well, it lives on, it's a military economy, a mercenary economy, that's why there's a little different, well, let's say so, the motives in , for example, the belgorod region, this is, well, you know, my hypothesis is that the situation is completely different in the belgorod region, they are, in fact , a belligerent region, they are absolutely kinetic effects of war for sure, all these people have been feeling for several years, and they cannot answer their residents, well, in a different way, the discourse is different, if you see it, pay attention, there are the smallest number of those who did not give an answer, who somehow evaded it, formed there such a discourse, you cannot

answer otherwise, well... plus also the number of people who are mobilized there, it is also very large, including the so-called territorial defenses there. and the last question, and here is chechnya, the phenomenon of chechnya, it seemed to me that kadyrov is throwing maximum effort, money, resources to convince the residents of this region that the so-called svo is our everything, however, very little. in fact, it has been a long time, there is such a great tension between the russians, actually there war bloggers, in general by nationalist russians, well , actually by russian fascists and chechens, since in fact chechens do not want to turn into minced meat and they are in the second and third lines, this has been known for a long time and for a long time there have been a large number of cases when

there was literally... between them, and the most important thing , if the chechens look at the destroyed cities, then unlike the russians, in general, the majority of russia, they perfectly remember that they have a few, well, 10-15 years ago it was the same, and the same thing was done to them by itself army, which is now being done in ukraine, so the chechens have a completely different sentiment than the russians in the general territory of russia, and of course, thank you very much, sir. alexander for participation in the program, this is alexander shulga, director of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, doctor of sociological sciences, who explained why, according to polls, which he said: can be trusted, more and more russians are against the so-called svo by putin. well, he explained, and it's good, what he says. well , let's continue: the administration of the president of the united states of america, joe biden, saw volodymyr zelensky's victory plan and is ready

to join... him. he said this officially during the briefing.