and therefore its efficiency is better, but our milanese also work to 100, so they use a little more missiles, and this is a terrible miracle, they fly and bomb and destroy the occupiers, well, that is, your units also use the drone and other drones in sufficient numbers to to bring the enemy to such a state that you speak of, and by the way, on the occasion of the occasion. the delivery is systematic, regular, or, speaking of language, the savings are not felt, but here i cannot give you a reliable or accurate answer, because i simply do not have the information, as far as we receive a lot of them, i know that we have a state supply, but usually these drones have to be modified, uh, ours, in particular , we have a workshop where our our battalions of unmanned systems. are working on their own

developments in order to, once again, efficiently and effectively destroy customers, the main impact here is on the cameras and the actual initiation, it is good to see the picture, to be resistant to the enemy, these are the main points of use and effective use, i can still report this at the moment , mr. nazar, i would like to ask about the fact that... new ones are already starting there the rules of mobilization, where military units can, well, independently call people who can come directly for mobilization without tsc, that is, it is easier and more effective, as it seems to me, how do you currently replenish personnel in this direction of recruiting, direct contracts and maybe now direct drafts mobilized to your, to your brigade? usually, we

do not choose most recruits from training centers, they are mobilized people who, so to speak, have not found a place to work in the army, and therefore we add them to our brigades, we train them here, in addition to basic training, they also undergo about a week of intensive training within our brigade with professionally trained instructors, we have in particular a recruitment page of the brigade, for example it says: people who want to join the army, i received a message from a woman who has two children on maternity leave and says: i can sign a contract with you, that’s exactly how we provide a letter of recommendation, they choose a position and begin their enlistment in the army, undergo basic training, if the position requires it, undergo a specialty, and then we we take them for ourselves and they are appointed to the positions of combat abotilov. mr. nazar, thank you very much for your explanations, for your optimism, for... the work

that you and your comrades are doing to protect our state, i will remind our viewers that it was nazar voytenkov, acting press officer of the 33rd separate of the mechanized brigade, which is now holding the defense in the kurakhiv direction and destroying the enemy with the use of both artillery and technical equipment, robotic platforms and unmanned systems, all this is done in order to bring our victory closer. that's how they were the main war results of this day, then... the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zama, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thanks to serhiy zagorets, thanks to his guest, we will announce the collection a little later, but at the same time i will ask my colleagues to tell me how much we have already managed to collect, yesterday it was 2,380,000, if i am not mistaken, but i will announce the collection in the news and ask you to join, we will start with a conversation, ivan klympushtents. with

us, she is the head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, the verkhovna rada of ukraine, a people's deputy ukraine, ms. ivano, i welcome you, good evening, today we have a whole range of questions, because we will summarize the week that is passing, and we will voice some key points that are important to discuss, you attended the security forum in warsaw, i would like to ask about what it was discussed, because this is how i understand the security issues of central europe, well, from ukraine as well, what key points were voiced and how ukraine was represented there with what proposals, what proposals were possible in... ours from our partners, as you can see the future, if they talked about it at this forum, well, as they say, the current situation at the front is also safe, well, this is the largest forum that is really safe in central and eastern europe, but it was not only about ukraine, not only the central central europe, in general about the european and transatlantic world, and probably the difference from last year, well, for me it was the fact that i paid attention to a much... greater

amount of focus of our partners on themselves, on their analysis of their capabilities, weaknesses in your defense, and... obviously a lot was said about how transatlantic relations will develop after the elections in the united states of america, how much europe will have to take over its defense role and whether or not to increase it in proportion to the potential problems with american aid for ukraine, and these are all the things that, well, are probably the main ones, which... today our colleagues abroad are additionally worried about populism and this growth of the right and left radical political forces there, the elections in austria, the elections regional elections in germany, and the previous elections in

france, in the netherlands, that is, all these things, they are just now, well, such a lump for internal discussions within the european. and it is obvious that ukraine was discussed in many sessions, without it, well, there was no discussion, well , practically, probably no discussion, but i have this general feeling that this is the urgency in which we are, and the urgency in relation to the energy system, the urgency regarding air defense, the urgency of providing troops, she is not sufficiently part of the awareness of our partners today. and here, in my opinion, one of the conclusions is that we need to change our rhetoric, not to maybe less emotion, maybe less expectations, demands and insistence, but more

effort to explain to our partners our needs through their specific national interests, this needs a little deeper digging in each and every soup. in each country in order to touch the most important things for them, so that they, they are aware of their interest in helping us, well, to put it this briefly, there were many representatives of defense ministers, ministers of european affairs, ministers of foreign affairs from european countries, there was a large delegation from the united states of america, and accordingly our colleagues from poland , our colleagues... from other countries of central europe, central eastern europe, also colleagues, by the way, from georgia, who, by the way, about georgia, why did i immediately interrupt you, i read today that the european union is suspending relationships, say yes, are there high-level meetings with

sakartvelo because of the activities of their government, which is actually now in effect, i'm not talking about the president now, i'm talking more about the government. about the ruling party acting in the interests of moscow, can we talk about the fact that we are losing sakratvela, and europe is losing her as a partner, is there anything else that can be changed, because, well, a lot will depend on how the elections are held on october 26 in sakartvelo, and this is precisely what all the colleagues who were present there, in particular and at this forum at other sites, emphasized to the fact that they simply... catastrophically need a lot of attention from the world, which is focused again on other things, including on itself, and on the ukrainian war, on the situation in the middle east, and somewhere this whole story with the kartvels falls out , it falls out of their field of vision, and that is why they asked for

an increase in the number of observers, because they suspect that there may be attempts to steal and falsify the election results. it is very sensitive for us, and i think that the european union has taken a very serious, correct step, when he gave sakartvelo the right, or rather the candidate status last year, it was a geopolitical decision, it was not a court decision based on their achievements, but today we see that the government did not take advantage of this, and today it goes completely against the wishes of society and of what is happening at higher levels. talk about georgia, i submitted such a draft resolution in the verkhovna rada so that we start using the real and correct name of georgia

sakartvelu in all our official communication, but unfortunately, the majority does not see the opportunity to put this issue on the agenda here is another matter, i will not just focus on it now, but there will also be elections in moldova. it is also a question of whether the pro-russian forces won't win there, or at least they won't take some such part that might, like then, i heard a very good phrase that if the pro-russian... forces would win in moldova, it would be such a russian aircraft carrier in central europe, well, in fact, in central-western europe , let it be, but let's see, it will be determined decisive, decisive, and there and there these will be extremely important elections for the general future geopolitical situation and the security situation in our region, and it is simply scary to imagine that sakartvelo is there after several wars with russia, and i want to remind you that this not only 2000. the eighth year, and this is the beginning, well, it is the 93rd, 95th years, and when

the war for abkhazia was going on, and about the so-called, you know, the desire for independence of abkhazia, in fact, we know that there were russian troops, no one knows about it, well, not then said, that is, it is the same story, how they came here to crimea and also pretended that i was actually there at the elections, well, obviously we are talking about this ruling party... who make such videos, showing the conditional bahmud defeated there , avdiivka, or mariupol, sorry, all these cities, and here they show the port of batumi, which means that everything in them is beautiful, the tourist center, the sea and beauty, well, first of all , this is cynical, in itself, and on the other hand, it does not mean that if you choose, i am not talking about the people now sacred, but i am talking about individual politicians and those who support them, well, obviously someone does. if you choose to become a vassal of russia, it doesn't mean that it won't happen to you, it's just that now putin doesn't need it, but it doesn't mean that it is, well, it's

such a manipulative story that they say we 're offering you peace, and not this destruction and this war, as if, but as if it is not russia, but i don't know who, well, some aliens bombed our ukrainian cities, and in fact, well, this is about this populism, it is about manipulation, and really... they have a conventional theater there mariupol the tbilisi state theater or the national theater was completely destroyed, well, you see, what is important here is simply that in this story, putin does not feel that he is his policy, it leads to the right ones, that is, his aggression against ukraine. there is a sakartve, scared moldova and they choose a pro-russian course, because they do not want what happened in ukraine to be repeated, although again

, as this hero who played churcher in the film dark times said, that it is impossible to negotiate with the tiger when your head will fall off him, what in fact, this is the way it is, that is why we have to fight this tiger, but here in ukraine there is another story that cannot be discussed, you are meeting with many politicians, officials of the european union and the united states, and... the topic of corruption is obviously rising, the president said that corruption is shared in us, although we understand that this is more of a figure of speech, but here is the latest story, we will now show a video that was found in an ordinary worker, an ordinary worker of the medical and social expert commission, well, what is it issues relevant certificates there to the veterans at home, her son, who is lying on a pillow made of money, is an employee there, the head or whoever he is there of the regional pension fund, they found six. millions of dollars, euros, well, in different currencies, there you see euros, there are also hryvnias, there are also dollars, we will now show a video of how they

open, well, ordinary such drawers, which are in which, well, let's see, you will be amazed by the contents these drawers, and this story about 6 million, this is only what i managed to find in the usual head office there, and here we are now, well, you see, i will just continue talking, this the usual head of the medical and social expert of the khmelnytsky region, well, such huge fortunes have been found, this is only what they managed to find at home, what they hid there, it is clear that this is corruption, many people earn in the war, much more , but in i have a question, our partners in the west, how do they react to statements about the fight against corruption, about some top corruption, do they most importantly believe in the fact that, well, we see, well, the struggle continues, well, they have been found, thank god, i say, this is good, but just how they evaluate... the headquarters of corruption, to what extent do they consider corruption to be a big problem in ukraine, because i will remind you that according to the last survey, which was conducted six months ago,

ukrainians consider corruption to be almost the main threat in ukraine, after security, after security, and there is certainly no international meeting at which would not have sounded in the last, well, in particular, probably already in the last year, concern about the increase in the level of corruption in ukraine, and colleagues tell and well where. when it is substantiated that the detection of these corruption cases, it indicates that the anti-corruption bodies began to work and began to give some results, well, but... at the same time , more and more, especially it is used, well, let's say, not by well-wishers, but also by those who do not want to continue helping ukraine, and this makes it difficult, and the defense of the position that ukraine needs to continue to be provided with direct budget support, and to cover its needs from

those governments and from those politicians who sincerely want to help us, and therefore... and detractors on the one hand, friends on the other , they are all constantly say that you need to eradicate this terrible disease, although they admit that, unfortunately, there are cases of corruption in the countries of the european union and in the same united states, but about this massive, viral nature, it obviously does not exist there, and this is what they see we have and... and for us it will be an increasing challenge from the point of view of calculating the help of our partners, and look, in fact, the lion's share of our budget is provided by precisely this kind of macro-financial assistance, partly by grants, partly by loans, our children, our next generations, them

we will have to give them, but we could, if there weren't all these corrupt people, then we... could use them much more effectively and really don't put our hands in our pockets now, with all the new tax proposals, proposals to people who receive there are minimum salaries for white businesses, in fact, to do much more serious things for the defense of the country with those funds, and therefore it is for us, i agree with the ukrainians, who think that it is very. you know that they steal in war, well, stealing is a sin in general, but it's one out of ten commandments, do not steal, but when everything is good in the country, there, somewhere, business also has something of its own, somewhere, someone there, someone hides something, they come from some body, they say they shared a little, someone shared, somewhere there, some body also gathered for itself, well it doesn't particularly affect people, they put him in prison, thank god, opened a case, opened a case, fine, but

you steal, well, this story is especially important, i wrote a post about it in the comments, writes in... a military man who says that they demanded thousands of dollars from him to issue him pension, well, that is, you see, now people react very sharply to everything, and you can’t play with people here, because society is so unelectrified, and even more so the people at the front, that they only react to it so far with posts by someone on facebook, well, understand that sooner or later it can turn into, well, let's say this, into violence, here you have to be careful, society, well, here you have to be careless, here you have to be black and white, in this whole story you have to be black and white. and i thought that when the full-scale invasion began, it seemed to me, well, well, now is definitely the time when, well, not one, not one dog will reach out to something that lies crooked, but as it turns out, well, we were wrong in that, in that expectation that, well when the country is bleeding, there will be no such people

who will afford, well, no, they, they are and they are on... us, honest, court decisions, maybe then it will mean that it will be okay , because so far we see a lot of loud arrests, but i think that you and i have not seen many court sentences for such corruptors or show me 6 million dollars there, 6 million euros in euros, show me that it was 6 million dollars, and here are the maviks, relatively speaking, which

you bought with this money, or maviks, or something else that is needed for the front, you are enough, by the way, the quantity can be bought for six. let's go back to strasbourg, where the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe recognized the holodomor as a genocide of the ukrainian people, how important this decision is, and again, many will ask, why did we have to wait so long, but in fact, probably during the last ten years ago, we began to work actively to ensure that... countries, individual countries, states recognize the holodomor as genocide at the level, at least at the political level, at the level of their parliaments, and this is a very difficult process, in fact, it seems to us, that this is a black and white story, as it is, but since we have been erased from the historical, mental, cultural map of europe

and the world for so long, we have to explain who we are and what really happened in the 30s years of the 20th century here on the territory of ukraine, when she was under the soviet union, and it is good that they have now recognized this and at the level of the parliament. assemblies of the council of europe, genocide, the holodomor by genocide, but besides that, what is more important there is that, well, in my opinion, it is even more important, because it is a step forward, and that they recognized the genocidal intentions and practices of the russian federation in this war, in which we are today we are, and when we see that and this can give an impetus to, well, to... to the real recognition of all the actions of the russian federation as genocide against the ukrainian people today, and these bridges, these explanations, these historical, historical

parallels, they are very important, and as for me, there are two more issues here, one of them, it is being discussed, i even spoke with such quite respectable people who are there, well, not with politicians, but who are closely related to politicians communication that... it is not an exclusive option that joseph biden can invite ukraine to nato, he will understand that it should be a consensus of all nato members, but, as they say, such an option is possible, here will be ramstein on october 12, where in which will be attended by joe biden, the french president should be there, and scholz, and probably starmer should also be there, as far as i understand, i don't know, and president zelensky, is it possible, or is it just, well, as they say, wishful thinking , unfortunately, i think that you... we're wishful thinking now, and then we raise the stakes again, we raise the expectations again and we believe that this is about to happen, i do not see the appetite on the part of the united states

to change its so cautious position to invite ukraine now to the alliance, moreover, i insist that it is not even with a change in the leadership position of the united states, and if president biden is there tomorrow will start calling all the leaders. member countries, it is not a simple process. i would say that yes, somewhere around a third of the countries clearly support our invitation already, and are advocates, lobbyists for this within the alliance. well, another third will definitely orient or reorient to the position of the united states of america, if, for example, there is such a change, but another third will trade, well, someone will trade, as we know, one of our western susies. will mean to immediately bargain for something, and the very last one can only agree to this, others will be for other reasons and reasons, well, it is impossible to talk

about the fact that it is now impossible, although there will be and will be, by the way, use the fact that ukraine has not reformed enough, ukraine during this time is good that it is still ukraine, well, let's absolutely i agree with you, yes, but at the same time... we have to understand this, and if we understand this, we should have already during, well, at least the last year since the vilnius summit, for sure, well, i would like to see at least 10 draft laws from the cabinet of ministers under consideration in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which would us were approaching membership in the alliance, not a single, not a single bill was introduced by the cabinet for this purpose, this undermines the trust in us, the partners within the alliance , they have to trust each other, and i would like us to finally... realize that not only because of our terrible blood, we can enter the alliance, we must enter the alliance, but also because we are commensurate, we are comparable,

we are mutually compatible and so on, including in the political plan, you know, probably until now and respect reagan and consider him a legend as and margaret thatcher, because they were politicians who found ways to, say, collapse the ussr without a lot of blood, well, there was the blood of georgia, they killed the baltic countries there, well that. but actually it was such moves, when they agreed somewhere there with the saudis, somewhere they collapsed something, somewhere oil, well, that is, it is possible that there are big politicians for that, i am not saying that this will never happen, i am working on it every day if it happened, i am not talking about you, i am talking about westerners, that there may also be some person who will come up with a way to enter history in such a way that even this one does not expect, we will not be the one, well, i am convinced that we must succeed, because we do not have any other. stable, sustainable, long-term guarantee, safe, except for our membership in the alliance, but at the moment i don't see a consensus yet, i don't see

that... there will be some new big announcement after october 12, well, in this area from of our partners, well, to put an end to this, we were accompanied by ivanna klimbursentsadze, head of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine issues of ukraine's integration into the european union, people's deputy of ukraine, thank you very much and i invite you right away to the air, come, there are many more interesting things to discuss, well, here soon, by the way, there will also be elections, so there will be topics, thank you i really wish you a good evening, but now i'm here to inform you about the needs of the armed forces of ukraine. i think that you already know our collection by heart, but i will voice it one more time. so, the espresso tv channel and the espresso tv channel and the vesna charity fund announce a collection for of the third separate assault brigade, as well as for the 47th and 110th mechanized brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. we are gathering for drones,

we are also gathering for... electronic warfare systems, these brigades stood until the last of that difficult, difficult spring of the 24th year, and closing the avdiiv direction, helping many of our units to get out of there, in fact, giving the opportunity to save lives of our army, they are great warriors, in fact, and these great warriors today need our help, our help, and what we can, we will do it... and uah 3.5 million. good health, dear ukrainians. we, the fighters of the first assault battalion of the third separate assault brigade, who will defend our native land on the front lines. we urgently need your help. we need means of radio-electronic warfare against the enemy's small bpolas and komikaze drones. we really appreciate your help. glory to ukraine.

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